Pollster Frank Luntz, who gathered undecided voters to watch the
debate, entered the No Spin Zone with his findings. "Hillary Clinton's
worst moment," he said, "was when she said let's get the fact-checkers involved. They thought that was an ad hominem attack. Donald Trump's
worst moments came when he was talking over Lester Holt. The cardinal
rule of debates is to not talk over the moderator, but Trump did it
three times and the participants found it rude." Luntz turned to each candidate's most sparkling moment. "Hillary Clinton's best moment was
when she talked about working together with Muslim Americans. Donald
Trump's high point came when he talked about applying his business
principles to Washington." Luntz reported that his group was evenly
split as to who won the debate and few votes were changed.
After the debate, 16 viewers voted that Clinton had won, including the--
man who had the beginning of the night had identified himself as the
most pro-Trump in the room. (ÒHe definitely didnŐt help himself,Ó he
said of Trump afterwards.) Only six people said Trump had won.
http://time.com/4509038/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-debate-voter-focus-group/
Many were frustrated at TrumpŐs long-winded answers, which to them
seemed to be full of sound and fury but signifying nothing, to borrow a phrase. ÒHe dug his own grave by just talking, and talking, and
talking,Ó one viewer said.
ÒIf he was a student in my middle school classroom, I would have told
him to finish answering the question you were being asked, and then
shut your mouth,Ó a woman said.
On 2016-09-28 10:00:02 +0000, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> said:
Pollster Frank Luntz, who gathered undecided voters to watch the
debate, entered the No Spin Zone with his findings. "Hillary Clinton's
worst moment," he said, "was when she said let's get the fact-checkers
involved. They thought that was an ad hominem attack. Donald Trump's
worst moments came when he was talking over Lester Holt. The cardinal
rule of debates is to not talk over the moderator, but Trump did it
three times and the participants found it rude." Luntz turned to each
candidate's most sparkling moment. "Hillary Clinton's best moment was
when she talked about working together with Muslim Americans. Donald
Trump's high point came when he talked about applying his business
principles to Washington." Luntz reported that his group was evenly
split as to who won the debate and few votes were changed.
Amazing. You buried the conclusions. Why is that?
Maybe because it wasn't flattering to Hair Furor, maybe?
In article <nsg67n$t5n$1@dont-email.me>, fredp151@gmail.com wrote:
On 2016-09-28 10:00:02 +0000, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> said:
Pollster Frank Luntz, who gathered undecided voters to watch the
debate, entered the No Spin Zone with his findings. "Hillary Clinton's
worst moment," he said, "was when she said let's get the fact-checkers
involved. They thought that was an ad hominem attack. Donald Trump's
worst moments came when he was talking over Lester Holt. The cardinal
rule of debates is to not talk over the moderator, but Trump did it
three times and the participants found it rude." Luntz turned to each
candidate's most sparkling moment. "Hillary Clinton's best moment was
when she talked about working together with Muslim Americans. Donald
Trump's high point came when he talked about applying his business
principles to Washington." Luntz reported that his group was evenly
split as to who won the debate and few votes were changed.
Amazing. You buried the conclusions. Why is that?
Strawman noted.
Maybe because it wasn't flattering to Hair Furor, maybe?
Epithet noted.
Goodwin's law violation noted.
Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.
Goodwin's law violation noted.
Some have focused on the social and political conditions in post-World
War I Germany, which Hitler expertly exploited â bitterness over the
harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles and a yearning for a return to
German greatness; unemployment and economic distress amid the worldwide Depression of the early 1930s; and longstanding ethnic prejudices and
fears of âforeignization.â
Volker Ullrich focused on Hitler as a politician who rose to power
through demagoguery, showmanship and nativist appeals to the masses.
Mr. Ullrich, like other biographers, provides vivid insight into some
factors that helped turn a âMunich rabble-rouserâ â regarded by many as a self-obsessed âclownâ with a strangely âscattershot, impulsive styleâ
Hitler was known, among colleagues, for a âbottomless mendacityâ that would later be magnified by a slick propaganda machine that used the
latest technology (radio, gramophone records, film) to spread his
message. A former finance minister wrote that Hitler âwas so thoroughly untruthful that he could no longer recognize the difference between
lies and truthâ and editors of one edition of âMein Kampfâ described it as a âswamp of lies, distortions, innuendoes, half-truths and real facts.â
Hitler was an effective orator and actor, Mr. Ullrich reminds readers,
adept at assuming various masks and feeding off the energy of his
audiences. Although he concealed his anti-Semitism beneath a âmask of moderationâ when trying to win the support of the socially liberal
middle classes, he specialized in big, theatrical rallies staged with spectacular elements borrowed from the circus.
Here, âHitler adapted the content of his speeches to suit the tastes of
his lower-middle-class, nationalist-conservative, ethnic-chauvinist and anti-Semitic listeners,â Mr. Ullrich writes. He peppered his speeches
with coarse phrases and put-downs of hecklers. Even as he fomented
chaos by playing to crowdsâ fears and resentments, he offered himself
as the visionary leader who could restore law and order.
âHitler was often described as an egomaniac who âonly loved himself,ââ
she notes, âa narcissist with a taste for self-dramatization and what
Mr. Ullrich calls a âcharacteristic fondness for superlatives.ââ
Hitler increasingly presented himself in messianic terms, promising âto lead Germany to a new era of national greatness,â though he was
typically vague about his actual plans. He often harked back to a
golden age for the country, Mr. Ullrich says, the better âto paint the present day in hues that were all the darker. Everywhere you looked
now, there was only decline and decay.â
Hitlerâs repertoire of topics, Mr. Ullrich notes, was limited, and
reading his speeches in retrospect, âit seems amazing that he attracted larger and larger audiencesâ with ârepeated mantralike phrasesâ consisting largely of âaccusations, vows of revenge and promises for
the future.â
Mr. Ullrich suggests, and the belief of Hitler supporters that the
country needed âa man of ironâ who could shake things up. âWhy not give the National Socialists a chance?â
Hitlerâs ascension was aided and abetted by the naĂŻvetĂ© of domestic adversaries who failed to appreciate his ruthlessness and tenacity, and
by foreign statesmen who believed they could control his aggression.
Early on, revulsion at Hitlerâs style and appearance, Mr. Ullrich
writes, led some critics to underestimate the man and his popularity,
while others dismissed him as a celebrity, a repellent but fascinating âeveningâs entertainment.â
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/books/hitler-ascent-volker-ullrich.html?_r=0
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