• [O'Reilly Factor] Clinton versus Trump on the debate stage

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    Ninety-minute debate, six 15 minute segments should get under way in
    about an hour. The three general topics tonight, America's
    direction, achieving prosperity, securing America. Obviously, those
    are very general topics. So, anything could happen. You can say
    anything in those topics. Now, Hillary Clinton won the coin toss so
    Lester Holt's first question will go to her. The same question will
    then be asked Donald Trump. Each candidate will have two minutes to
    answer the initial question and the other candidate will have two
    minutes to respond.

    So, it's a back and forth. There will be no opening or closing
    statements. So I like the format. I kind of think that it might take
    Lester Holt out of things but if a candidate does not tell the
    truth, the other candidate, it's up to him or her to call him out
    because Holt really can't interrupt while Trump and Clinton are
    speaking. So that's the format here. I predict a bit of chaos with
    the back and forth and that might be very entertaining. So, bring it
    on.

    Hillary Clinton does have the advantage this evening. She has done
    these one on one debates before, most notably with Barack Obama. Mr.
    Trump has had debate experience only with a bunch of other people on
    the stage. A lot more difficult one on one. Also Hillary Clinton is
    much more versed in policy. She can razzle-dazzle with fact and
    figures. Donald Trump is more of a generalist, big picture guy. So,
    when it comes to specifics, you can expect more from Hillary Clinton
    on that front.

    But talking points believes it might not matter very much because
    demeanor, the way the candidates handle themselves will be what many
    Americans are watching. Example it would be unwise for Donald Trump
    to make faces as he sometimes did in the Republican debates.
    Remember that? Also it would be a major mistake for Mr. Clinton to
    sound shrill or to call Trump names. That would erode her status as
    a public figure. Both candidates have been heavily coached and will
    come armed with one-liners but they better be cautious.

    As we saw over the weekend after the Clinton campaign invited Mark
    Cuban to sit in the front row just between Trump. Trump responded
    we're going to be taking to Gennifer Flowers. So, right away, the
    presidential debate got into the world wrestling federation mode.
    Fortunately, Miss Flowers will not be attending this evening. But
    the circus is on hold for a moment except for the people in the
    back. And yes, Hillary Clinton did start that, there's no doubt
    about it.


    But again, Americans want authoritative problem solvers, not foolish
    game players. The demeanor factor, the demeanor factor is extremely
    important in this debate tonight. In 1960, then-Vice President
    Richard Nixon basically lost the election because he looked bad at
    the debate, dower, sweaty, tense. By contrast, the young Senator
    from Massachusetts John F. Kennedy whom Americans really didn't know
    back then, came across as vibrant and very human.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think Mr. Nixon is an effective leader of his
    party. I hope he would grant me the same. The question before us is,
    which point of view and which party do we want to lead the United
    States.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Nixon, would you like to comment on that
    statement?

    RICHARD NIXON, 37TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have no
    comment.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: And that was Nixon. Although the election was close, Nixon
    of course of course won the presidency eight years later, but he
    should have won in 1960. And then there are the one-liners.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    RONALD REAGAN, 40TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I will not make
    age an issue of this campaign. I'm not going to exploit for
    political purposes my opponents youth and inexperience.

    (LAUGHTER)

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: That witty line turned things around for Ronald Reagan who
    had lost the first debate to Walter Mondale but made a comeback in
    the second thanks to that line. From then on, there was no stopping
    President Reagan's re-election campaign in 1984. In 1988, there was
    a vice- presidential debate between Dan Quayle and Senator Lloyd
    Bentsen, a Democrat.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    DAN QUAYLE, 44TH VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have as much
    experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the
    presidency.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator?

    SENATOR LLOYD BENTSEN (D), FORMER TEXAS SENATOR: I serve with Jack
    Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine.
    Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: Now, that line was not enough to elect Bentsen's running
    mate, Michael Dukakis. Why? Because the governor himself blew it.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and
    murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the
    killer?

    MICHAEL DUKAKIS, FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR: No, I don't,
    Bernard. And I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty
    during all of my life.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: That answer of Dukakis painted him as insensitive to his
    own wife and hurt him dramatically.

    Finally, presidential candidates get their facts wrong in a big
    debate. They have got trouble.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, I would like to explore a little
    more deeply our relationship with the Russians. Our allies in France
    and Italy are now flirting with communism. There is no soviet
    domination of Eastern Europe and there never will be under a Ford administration.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    O'REILLY: And that blunder by President Ford pretty much gave the
    election to Jimmy Carter in 1976. So, back to tonight, the poll is
    pretty much a dead heat going into the big show. It's kind of
    shocking because many pundits believe Hillary Clinton would easily
    roll over Donald Trump. If Mr. Trump stands to his ground tonight,
    looks presidential as I say, Senator Clinton could be in major
    trouble. I was in Colorado over the week and polls there say, the
    race is tied.

    If Colorado goes with Trump, he's the next president. Same things in
    states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. On Friday, we told you that
    North Carolina will now go to Trump because of all the social
    unrest. Social disorder always drives voters to the more
    authoritarian candidate. So finally, what's my prediction? As Mr. T.
    once said in a "rocky" movie, pain. Both candidates no matter what
    they do will get smashed by the opposition. No matter how good
    Donald Trump performs, press will say he blew it. No matter how
    astute Hillary Clinton may be, those who dislike her will continue
    to dislike her. It's not like everybody or anybody will be going to
    Disney World after this.

    And that's "The Memo".


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