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  • "DUNE" remake; a two-bit Luke Skywalker?

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 16:10:29 2021
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Oct 12 12:59:13 2021
    On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
    Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
    reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.

    The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
    Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
    band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Your Name on Mon Oct 11 20:59:13 2021
    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:59:15 UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
    Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
    reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.

    The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
    Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
    band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.

    I never liked Herbert's stuff, it bored me. But the original "Dune" was at least
    weird enough to come off as a scifi/fantasy, even if using Sting in the one role
    was nearly as bad as Travolta in "Battlefield Earth."

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Oct 12 17:12:41 2021
    On 2021-10-12 03:59:13 +0000, RichA said:

    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:59:15 UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649 >>
    The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
    Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
    reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.

    The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
    Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird
    adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
    band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.

    I never liked Herbert's stuff, it bored me. But the original "Dune"
    was at least weird enough to come off as a scifi/fantasy, even if using
    Sting in the one role was nearly as bad as Travolta in "Battlefield
    Earth."

    Dune in all it's guises is boring rubbish.

    I chose one of the original novels as a school prizegiving award (the
    options were extremely limited and it was the only sci-fi book). I gave
    up attempting to read before the end of the first chapter, after pages
    and pages of desciptions of sand on a sand planet. Unfortunately people
    thought because it's sci-fi and I had one, they kept buying me more
    books in the series as gifts - I've never bothered to even open those
    books and it's not a complete set.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Oct 12 04:33:37 2021
    In article <sk31vp$hfk$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-10-12 03:59:13 +0000, RichA said:

    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:59:15 UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-10-11 23:10:29 +0000, RichA said:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649 >>>
    The "two-bit Luke Skywalker" would be Rey in the supposed Star Wars
    Sequel Trilogy by the talentless hack JarJar Abrams ... which in
    reality was just a lazy gender-swapped remake of the originals.

    The Dune novels (some of them anyway) were of course written before
    Star Wars and were some influence on George Lucas, but the Hollyweird
    adaptations have always been simply an attempt to jump on the Star Wars
    band wagon, just like Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers were.

    I never liked Herbert's stuff, it bored me. But the original "Dune"
    was at least weird enough to come off as a scifi/fantasy, even if using
    Sting in the one role was nearly as bad as Travolta in "Battlefield
    Earth."

    Dune in all it's guises is boring rubbish.

    I chose one of the original novels as a school prizegiving award (the
    options were extremely limited and it was the only sci-fi book). I gave
    up attempting to read before the end of the first chapter, after pages
    and pages of desciptions of sand on a sand planet. Unfortunately people >thought because it's sci-fi and I had one, they kept buying me more
    books in the series as gifts - I've never bothered to even open those
    books and it's not a complete set.



    The first one was great, the second one was awful. After that it got
    better for a while, but I was still behind when Herbert died, so I never
    went on from 4 or maybe 5 because I knew the series wouldn't have a proper ending.

    There was a good series of posts on Usenet a while back pointing out
    that a lot of what Herbert was doing was subverting the standard hero
    story, which I had never really considered.
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to RichA on Tue Oct 12 18:07:52 2021
    On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    Personally, I'd rather wait until seeing something until forming any
    judgement.

    Although I can declare that I'll miss the baroque furnishings & fittings
    from the David Lynch version.



    alvey

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to alvey on Tue Oct 12 18:35:28 2021
    On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 04:07:55 UTC-4, alvey wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    Personally, I'd rather wait until seeing something until forming any judgement.

    Although I can declare that I'll miss the baroque furnishings & fittings
    from the David Lynch version.


    Maybe there is some kind of profound metaphor in it, but riding giant worms like horses...

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  • From alvey@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Oct 13 16:35:48 2021
    On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 18:35:28 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:

    On Tuesday, 12 October 2021 at 04:07:55 UTC-4, alvey wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:10:29 -0700 (PDT), RichA wrote:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649 >>
    Personally, I'd rather wait until seeing something until forming any
    judgement.

    Although I can declare that I'll miss the baroque furnishings & fittings
    from the David Lynch version.


    Maybe there is some kind of profound metaphor in it, but riding giant worms like horses...

    Not quite, but that was a weak spot in the book. Evolution would have had
    the worm joints overlapping the other way to what Herbert did. A very minor point though in one of the great Ripping Yarns.


    alvey

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Oct 13 19:04:46 2021
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    You have things a bit backwards: Tatooine is a bit of a two-bit Arrakis, considering that Frank Herbert's book came out in 1965, twelve years
    before the first Star Wars film.

    I actually just yesterday saw Villeneuve's Dune (part one) film, and it
    was pretty much as good an adaptation of around half of this thick book
    as can be expected. Hopefully it'll achieve similar cult following as
    Jackson's LoTR movies — I'm looking forward to seeing a continuation.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Thu Oct 14 10:17:54 2021
    On 2021-10-13 16:04:46 +0000, Otto J. Makela said:
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    You have things a bit backwards: Tatooine is a bit of a two-bit Arrakis, considering that Frank Herbert's book came out in 1965, twelve years
    before the first Star Wars film.

    I actually just yesterday saw Villeneuve's Dune (part one) film, and it
    was pretty much as good an adaptation of around half of this thick book
    as can be expected. Hopefully it'll achieve similar cult following as Jackson's LoTR movies - I'm looking forward to seeing a continuation.

    Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
    being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sun Oct 17 16:18:23 2021
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
    being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.

    Lynch's Dune already has a certain cult reputation in spite of its flaws.
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to RichA on Sun Oct 17 08:16:11 2021
    On 10/11/21 6:10 PM, RichA wrote:
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649



    Do you have anything to say that isn't a pile of crap? Dune came first,
    so that the flying fuck are you talking about?

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Mon Oct 18 10:00:24 2021
    On 2021-10-17 13:18:23 +0000, Otto J. Makela said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
    being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.

    Lynch's Dune already has a certain cult reputation in spite of its flaws.

    Pretty much anythings has a "cult following" if you define it as "a few
    devoted nutters", but the original post said "Lord of the Rings" and
    there's simply no way "Dune" garbage will never reach those heights of popularity ... it won't even reach the levels of shows like "Firefly"
    and "Babylon 5".

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Oct 19 16:35:26 2021
    On 10/13/2021 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-10-13 16:04:46 +0000, Otto J. Makela said:
    RichA <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649 >>>

    You have things a bit backwards: Tatooine is a bit of a two-bit Arrakis,
    considering that Frank Herbert's book came out in 1965, twelve years
    before the first Star Wars film.

    I actually just yesterday saw Villeneuve's Dune (part one) film, and it
    was pretty much as good an adaptation of around half of this thick book
    as can be expected. Hopefully it'll achieve similar cult following as
    Jackson's LoTR movies - I'm looking forward to seeing a continuation.

    Not a snowball's chance on the Sun that Dune will ever get close to
    being as popular as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, etc.


    Ah, the McDonald's argument, that never gets old.

    I'll see your weak popularity argument and raise you one Denis
    Villeneuve is far and away the best director in any movies mentioned.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Oct 20 00:45:12 2021
    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    They're A-RABS! The planet is like Afghanistan. Imagine trying to EAT there. everything would be covered with sand. A planet of dope-addicts. The effects are good, the devices clever, the costumes are a hodgepodge of WW1 uniforms, Muslim dress and
    Star Warish battle dress. Tiny, dragonfly like drone weapons.

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Oct 20 13:31:31 2021
    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    Good movie, not boring, BETTER than the 1980's version but it ends abruptly Probably going to make a sequel.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to RichA on Thu Oct 21 12:18:59 2021
    On 10/20/21 3:31 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    Good movie, not boring, BETTER than the 1980's version but it ends abruptly Probably going to make a sequel.


    Yeah, don't do any research before you start spouting shit.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Oct 23 10:51:51 2021
    On 10/20/21 2:45 AM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    They're A-RABS!


    Did you read the book or are you being an ignorant sack of shit as usual?

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Oct 23 10:53:16 2021
    On 10/20/21 3:31 PM, RichA wrote:
    On Monday, 11 October 2021 at 19:10:31 UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi3986080537?ref_=hm_hp_i_1&listId=ls053181649

    Good movie, not boring, BETTER than the 1980's version but it ends abruptly Probably going to make a sequel.


    Fuckhead, it was a 500 page novel and the movie says "Part One" at the beginning. Are you getting any treatment for your cognitive decline?

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