Just revealed to kick off CBS’ celebration of “First Contact Day”—the day Zefram Cochrane became the first human to achieve warp flight and encounter the Vulcans in Star Trek: First Contact—Sir Patrick Stewart debuted an early teaser for the currently filming second season of Star
Trek: Picard for Paramount+.
Although the trailer itself was light on new footage—mostly showing
empty shots of Chateau Picard in La Barre, France, as the revived
Picard discussed how life does not always grant you a second chance—the teaser closes with another familiar voice: John DeLancie as the
omnipotent superbeing Q.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved
Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
The second season of Picard is set to hit Paramount+ in 2022. For now,
check out a brief chat between Stewart and de Lancie below!
https://youtu.be/xk9F90wklRQ
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
Just revealed to kick off CBS’ celebration of “First Contact Day”—the day Zefram Cochrane became the first human to achieve warp flight and encounter the Vulcans in Star Trek: First Contact—Sir Patrick Stewart debuted an early teaser for the currently filming second season of Star
Trek: Picard for Paramount+.
Although the trailer itself was light on new footage—mostly showing
empty shots of Chateau Picard in La Barre, France, as the revived
Picard discussed how life does not always grant you a second chance—the teaser closes with another familiar voice: John DeLancie as the
omnipotent superbeing Q.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
The second season of Picard is set to hit Paramount+ in 2022. For now,
check out a brief chat between Stewart and de Lancie below!
https://youtu.be/xk9F90wklRQ
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role
On 4/6/2021 6:32 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
Just revealed to kick off CBS’ celebration of “First Contact Day”—the
day Zefram Cochrane became the first human to achieve warp flight and
encounter the Vulcans in Star Trek: First Contact—Sir Patrick Stewart
debuted an early teaser for the currently filming second season of Star
Trek: Picard for Paramount+.
Although the trailer itself was light on new footage—mostly showing
empty shots of Chateau Picard in La Barre, France, as the revived
Picard discussed how life does not always grant you a second chance—the
teaser closes with another familiar voice: John DeLancie as the
omnipotent superbeing Q.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
The second season of Picard is set to hit Paramount+ in 2022. For now,
check out a brief chat between Stewart and de Lancie below!
https://youtu.be/xk9F90wklRQ
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
“The true final frontier is time. The new season of “Star Trek: Picard” is coming 2022, exclusively on Paramount+.”
No, no, no, no, no, no ! Yes, Q is back !
2022, are you freaking kidding me ? Lucille Ball would not approve of stretching this out this far. For those who do not know, Lucille Ball
was the first CEO of Paramount when it was commonly known as DesilLu and
the first Star Trek series was shot on the stage next to “I Love Lucy”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
Lynn
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/6/2021 6:32 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
Just revealed to kick off CBS celebration of First Contact Daythe
day Zefram Cochrane became the first human to achieve warp flight and
encounter the Vulcans in Star Trek: First ContactSir Patrick Stewart
debuted an early teaser for the currently filming second season of Star
Trek: Picard for Paramount+.
Although the trailer itself was light on new footagemostly showing
empty shots of Chateau Picard in La Barre, France, as the revived
Picard discussed how life does not always grant you a second chancethe
teaser closes with another familiar voice: John DeLancie as the
omnipotent superbeing Q.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
The second season of Picard is set to hit Paramount+ in 2022. For now,
check out a brief chat between Stewart and de Lancie below!
https://youtu.be/xk9F90wklRQ
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
The true final frontier is time. The new season of Star Trek: Picard
is coming 2022, exclusively on Paramount+.
No, no, no, no, no, no ! Yes, Q is back !
2022, are you freaking kidding me ? Lucille Ball would not approve of stretching this out this far. For those who do not know, Lucille Ball
was the first CEO of Paramount when it was commonly known as DesilLu and the first Star Trek series was shot on the stage next to I Love Lucy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
Lynn
I LOVE LUCY went off the air in 1957, almost 10 years before Star Trek TOS began.
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 13:17:09 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/6/2021 6:32 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
Just revealed to kick off CBS’ celebration of “First
Contact Day”—the day Zefram Cochrane became the first
human to achieve warp flight and encounter the Vulcans in Star
Trek: First Contact—Sir Patrick Stewart debuted an early
teaser for the currently filming second season of Star Trek:
Picard for Paramount+.
Although the trailer itself was light on new footage—mostly
showing empty shots of Chateau Picard in La Barre, France, as
the revived Picard discussed how life does not always grant
you a second chance—the teaser closes with another familiar
voice: John DeLancie as the omnipotent superbeing Q.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in
the first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last
year, but this will mark his first live-action return to the
role since Star Trek: Voyager.
The second season of Picard is set to hit Paramount+ in 2022.
For now, check out a brief chat between Stewart and de Lancie
below!
https://youtu.be/xk9F90wklRQ
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in
the first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last
year, but this will mark his first live-action return to the
role since Star Trek: Voyager.
“The true final frontier is time. The new season of “Star
Trek: Picard” is coming 2022, exclusively on Paramount+.”
No, no, no, no, no, no ! Yes, Q is back !
2022, are you freaking kidding me ? Lucille Ball would not
approve of stretching this out this far. For those who do not
know, Lucille Ball was the first CEO of Paramount when it was
commonly known as DesilLu and the first Star Trek series was
shot on the stage next to “I Love Lucy”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
Check again. Paramount was Paramount and DesiLu was DesiLu
until 1968. Paramount was started in 1914, Desilu in 1950. And
Paramount was a major studio from the start.
On 4/6/2021 6:32 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
Just revealed to kick off CBS’ celebration of “First Contact Day”—the
day Zefram Cochrane became the first human to achieve warp flight and
encounter the Vulcans in Star Trek: First Contact—Sir Patrick Stewart
debuted an early teaser for the currently filming second season of Star
Trek: Picard for Paramount+.
Although the trailer itself was light on new footage—mostly showing
empty shots of Chateau Picard in La Barre, France, as the revived
Picard discussed how life does not always grant you a second chance—the
teaser closes with another familiar voice: John DeLancie as the
omnipotent superbeing Q.
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
The second season of Picard is set to hit Paramount+ in 2022. For now,
check out a brief chat between Stewart and de Lancie below!
https://youtu.be/xk9F90wklRQ
De Lancie briefly reprised his beloved Next Generation role in the
first season of the animated Star Trek: Lower Decks last year, but this
will mark his first live-action return to the role since Star Trek:
Voyager.
“The true final frontier is time. The new season of “Star Trek: Picard” >is coming 2022, exclusively on Paramount+.”
No, no, no, no, no, no ! Yes, Q is back !
2022, are you freaking kidding me ? Lucille Ball would not approve of >stretching this out this far. For those who do not know, Lucille Ball
was the first CEO of Paramount when it was commonly known as DesilLu and
the first Star Trek series was shot on the stage next to “I Love Lucy”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
. . .
2022, are you freaking kidding me ? Lucille Ball would not approve of >stretching this out this far. For those who do not know, Lucille Ball
was the first CEO of Paramount when it was commonly known as DesilLu and
the first Star Trek series was shot on the stage next to “I Love Lucy”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce.
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce.
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at
over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing.
Lynn
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash >>>> she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce.
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing >>>> and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners >>>> even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at
over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing. >>>
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce.
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing >>> and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners >>> even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at
over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing. >>
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash >>>>> she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce.
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing >>>>> and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners >>>>> even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time >>>> and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing.
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this, >and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of
Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>>>>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash >>>>>>> she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time >>>>>> and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were >producing.
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this, >>> and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of
Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show
have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
MeTV has an article about this. It's wrong, but interesting. Star Trek just >about the cheapest thing on their:
https://www.metv.com/lists/8-of-the-most-expensive-tv-shows-made-in-the-1960s-and-70s
You'll find more budgets in the comments
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>>>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash >>>>>> she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time >>>>> and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing.
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this, >> and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of
Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show
have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:producing.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time >>>>>>> and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>>>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this,
and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of
Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show
have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
MeTV has an article about this. It's wrong, but interesting. Star Trek just >> about the cheapest thing on their:
https://www.metv.com/lists/8-of-the-most-expensive-tv-shows-made-in-the-1960s-and-70s
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the list?
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was wrong.
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:was doing
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he
business partnersand we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent
producing.even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>>>>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this,
and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of >>>>> Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show
have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
MeTV has an article about this. It's wrong, but interesting. Star Trek just >>> about the cheapest thing on their:
https://www.metv.com/lists/8-of-the-most-expensive-tv-shows-made-in-the-1960s-and-70s
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >don’t know. I’ve heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high. A quick Google search shows everybody using the half million >number, which is typical of Al Gore’s inter-web these days. Make a mistake >and everybody replicates it instantly..
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the
list?
Well they’ve got Star Trek at $200,000 which was the number I objected do >in the first place. :-)
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was
wrong.
I am not sure what else she was making during Star Trek’s first season. If >it was Andy of Mayberry then yeah that should be cheaper.
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I don’t know. I’ve heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high.
In article
<357442841.639546672.030584.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >> don’t know. I’ve heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high.
Well, they had John Williams writing the music for it. Of course that
was before he was the legend that he is now, so he was probably cheaper.
;-)
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:producing.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>>>>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this,
and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of >>>>> Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show
have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
MeTV has an article about this. It's wrong, but interesting. Star Trek just >>> about the cheapest thing on their:
https://www.metv.com/lists/8-of-the-most-expensive-tv-shows-made-in-the-1960s-and-70s
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >don’t know. I’ve heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high. A quick Google search shows everybody using the half million >number, which is typical of Al Gore’s inter-web these days. Make a mistake >and everybody replicates it instantly..
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the
list?
Well they’ve got Star Trek at $200,000 which was the number I objected do >in the first place. :-)
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was
wrong.
I am not sure what else she was making during Star Trek’s first season. If >it was Andy of Mayberry then yeah that should be cheaper.
—
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:was doing
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he
business partnersand we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent
https://www.metv.com/lists/8-of-the-most-expensive-tv-shows-made-in-the-1960s-and-70sproducing.even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at
over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this,
and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of >>>>>> Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show >>>>> have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
MeTV has an article about this. It's wrong, but interesting. Star Trek just
about the cheapest thing on their:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >> don’t know. I’ve heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high. A quick Google search shows everybody using the half million
number, which is typical of Al Gore’s inter-web these days. Make a mistake >> and everybody replicates it instantly..
Even if they charged all the sets built for the series to the pilot's
budget I'm just not seeing that number short of inventing the technology itself.
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the >>> list?
Well they’ve got Star Trek at $200,000 which was the number I objected do >> in the first place. :-)
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was
wrong.
I am not sure what else she was making during Star Trek’s first season. If >> it was Andy of Mayberry then yeah that should be cheaper.
The Andy Griffith Show was filmed on 40 Acres, the Culver City back lot.
It wasn't a Desilu production, just a studio tenant.
She also was a co-producer of Star Trek with Norway Productions. I have
no idea who they were. It's not like she was out all the cash.
Mannix and Mission: Impossible began as Desilu productions.
There's a not about The Lucy Show that Desilu produced Season 1 and half
of Season 6. I've never heard of a show going back to its original
studio.
I don't spot any other productions at the end.
In article
<357442841.639546672.030584.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel
Facebook group but I don’t know. I’ve heard big
numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never that
high.
Well, they had John Williams writing the music for it. Of
course that was before he was the legend that he is now,
so he was probably cheaper. ;-)
BTR1701 wrote:
In article
<357442841.639546672.030584.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel
Facebook group but I donât know. Iâve heard big
numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never that
high.
Well, they had John Williams writing the music for it. Of
course that was before he was the legend that he is now,
so he was probably cheaper. ;-)
I've got a 45 rpm (small vinyl music disk youngsters
may not recognize) promotional record of the theme from
the TV series "Checkmate" handed out as PR to radio
stations back in the olden days. Name on the label says
it's by Johnny Williams.
That may have been his first composition for film or
TV. Anyone know of an earlier one?
Nyssa, who knows more about Baroque era composers than
20th century ones
Nyssa,
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
. . .
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the >>>>list?
Well they’ve got Star Trek at $200,000 which was the number I objected do >>>in the first place. :-)
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was >>>>wrong.
I am not sure what else she was making during Star Trek’s first season. If >>>it was Andy of Mayberry then yeah that should be cheaper.
The Andy Griffith Show was filmed on 40 Acres, the Culver City back lot.
It wasn't a Desilu production, just a studio tenant.
She also was a co-producer of Star Trek with Norway Productions. I have
no idea who they were. It's not like she was out all the cash.
Norway is Gene Roddenberry.
Mannix and Mission: Impossible began as Desilu productions.
There's a not about The Lucy Show that Desilu produced Season 1 and half
of Season 6. I've never heard of a show going back to its original
studio.
I don't spot any other productions at the end.
Star Trek season one carries the DesiLu logo; season two carries Paramont.
I assume Lucy’s statement came during season one.
And I have long since
given up on trying to teach my spellchecker to spell Paramont I correctly.
It actually was correct right there and just forced itself back to being >wrong as I watched. Maybe if I say Paramont studios?
Son of a gun no. It spelled the first word correctly and capitalized the >second word and when I hit line return went in and changed both to be
wrong.
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
. . .
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the >>>>> list?
Well they’ve got Star Trek at $200,000 which was the number I objected do
in the first place. :-)
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was >>>>> wrong.
I am not sure what else she was making during Star Trek’s first season. If
it was Andy of Mayberry then yeah that should be cheaper.
The Andy Griffith Show was filmed on 40 Acres, the Culver City back lot. >>> It wasn't a Desilu production, just a studio tenant.
She also was a co-producer of Star Trek with Norway Productions. I have
no idea who they were. It's not like she was out all the cash.
Norway is Gene Roddenberry.
Waitaminit. I never read that Roddenberry had cash at risk. Did he?
Maybe Lucy did put up the entire budget.
Mannix and Mission: Impossible began as Desilu productions.
There's a not about The Lucy Show that Desilu produced Season 1 and half >>> of Season 6. I've never heard of a show going back to its original
studio.
I don't spot any other productions at the end.
Star Trek season one carries the DesiLu logo; season two carries Paramont. >> I assume Lucy’s statement came during season one.
I recall that the logo changed after Paramount bought out Desilu, but I
don't recall seeing a Desilu logo on first season Mannix nor Mission: Impossible. I'll have to watch for it.
And I have long since
given up on trying to teach my spellchecker to spell Paramont I correctly. >> It actually was correct right there and just forced itself back to being
wrong as I watched. Maybe if I say Paramont studios?
Son of a gun no. It spelled the first word correctly and capitalized the
second word and when I hit line return went in and changed both to be
wrong.
Dude: Your spell checker is evil and in league with your DVR.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <357442841.639546672.030584.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >> don’t know. I've heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high.
Well, they had John Williams writing the music for it. Of course that
was before he was the legend that he is now, so he was probably cheaper. ;-)
It occurs to me you'd probably be interested that La La Land records just
put out the three CD set of volume one of the time tunnel music. Volume two will be the John Williams collection.
In article
<86142082.639554377.660109.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article
<357442841.639546672.030584.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >>>> don’t know. I've heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high.
Well, they had John Williams writing the music for it. Of course that
was before he was the legend that he is now, so he was probably cheaper. >>> ;-)
It occurs to me you'd probably be interested that La La Land records just
put out the three CD set of volume one of the time tunnel music. Volume two >> will be the John Williams collection.
What do you think I've been listening to recently? ;-)
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 20:56:51 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:producing.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her
stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash
she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time
and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at
over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this,
and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of >>>>>> Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I have no context. What would an hour-long drama like a hospital show >>>>> have cost at the time?
Too bad Star Trek had no value in second-run syndication.
MeTV has an article about this. It's wrong, but interesting. Star Trek just
about the cheapest thing on their:
https://www.metv.com/lists/8-of-the-most-expensive-tv-shows-made-in-the-1960s-and-70s
They spent $500,000 on the Time Tunnel pilot?
This is embarrassing being that I run the time tunnel Facebook group but I >> don’t know. I’ve heard big numbers for it, bigger than Star Trek, but never
that high. A quick Google search shows everybody using the half million
number, which is typical of Al Gore’s inter-web these days. Make a mistake >> and everybody replicates it instantly..
You’ll find more budgets in the comments
Were the budget numbers wrong or you’re saying they left shows off the >>> list?
Well they’ve got Star Trek at $200,000 which was the number I objected do >> in the first place. :-)
Yeah, Star Trek’s budget in context isn’t excessive, then. Lucy was
wrong.
I am not sure what else she was making during Star Trek’s first season. If >> it was Andy of Mayberry then yeah that should be cheaper.
Not a comprehensive list, but "The Lucy Show", "Mannix", and "Mission Impossible" were in production at Desilu at that time.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash >>>>> she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce.
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing >>>>> and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners >>>>> even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time >>>> and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing.
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this, and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
On 4/7/2021 9:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 7:47 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/7/2021 5:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
A Friend wrote:
. . .
BTW Lucy bought Desi out of Desilu in 1962 for $2.5 mil. She sold her >>>>>>> stake to Paramount six years later for $17 million.
I doubt it was undervalued at the time, and maybe that was all the cash >>>>>> she could raise. I'll guess that the value was set during divorce. >>>>>>
I'm not sure why he wanted out of the studio as he knew what he was doing
and we've always read that Lucy and Desi made excellent business partners
even if they couldn't maintain a marriage.
In her biography, she said that Desi was drinking to excess at the time >>>>> and she could not stand it any more.
https://www.amazon.com/Desilu-Story-Lucille-Ball-Arnaz/dp/0062020013/ >>>>>
She also talked about the excessive costs of the Star Trek episodes at >>>>> over $200,000 each. Way more than any other show that they were producing.
Lynn
If she said that she would have been wrong.
So give me some facts.
Lynn
The pilots cost that much, but the production episodes were more like this, >> and we’ve known these numbers all the way back to “the making of Star Trek”
Budget
Season one
$190,000 per episode
Season two
$185,000 per episode
Season three
$175,000 per episode
I would call those $200,000/episode.
“Lucille Ball is the reason we have ‘Star Trek’ — here’s what happened”
https://www.businessinsider.com/lucille-ball-is-the-reason-we-have-star-trek-heres-what-happened-2016-7
"It was clear that the "Star Trek" pilot would be expensive to film, but
Ball — who actually believed the series was about traveling USO
performers —
Lynn
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