• Worst Era of Doctor Who

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 4 13:10:52 2021
    XPost: uk.media.tv.sf.drwho, rec.arts.drwho, rec.arts.tv

    Chris Chibnall and his anti-Doctor-Who Timeless Child arc!
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  • From T987654321@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 17 10:35:03 2021
    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

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  • From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha@21:1/5 to qwrtz123@gmail.com on Fri Sep 17 13:18:59 2021
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032- a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Or shambling zombie corpse.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
    (May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
    illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

    Vacation photos from Iceland:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Your Name on Fri Sep 17 22:45:03 2021
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
    character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will probably do
    exactly the same thing next year.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 18 09:31:17 2021
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
    character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to qwrtz123@gmail.com on Fri Sep 17 23:36:17 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.drwho.uk.mdia.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <86faaf77-e8e3-4032-a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com>,
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Called Chibnall's Timeless Child!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to qwrtz123@gmail.com on Fri Sep 17 23:37:10 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.drwho, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <86faaf77-e8e3-4032-a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com>,
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:
    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Called Chibnall's Timeless Child.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha on Fri Sep 17 17:51:37 2021
    On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032- a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Or shambling zombie corpse.

    A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.

    (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Sep 18 12:22:40 2021
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an existing
    character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will probably do
    exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a woman. Those
    are just two of many many examples.

    Add in the shows/movies where they purposely gender/race-swap an
    existing character, but at least have the decency to give the
    show/movie a different name and pretend it's a different character
    (e.g. Doogie Howser reboot), and there's even more examples.

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sat Sep 18 03:51:05 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.drwho.uk.media.tv.sf.drwho

    In article <si3d6m$pug$2@dont-email.me>,
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
    a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Or shambling zombie corpse.

    A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.

    (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)


    Oh!!

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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Sep 18 04:29:51 2021
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
    existing character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct"
    whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
    awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
    woman. Those are just two of many many examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the original
    show. And they made everything the exact opposite. Instead of the
    Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic it was being turned
    into a museum. Instead of being robots, the Cylons were biological
    constructs. Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
    coward and a moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From Mike McKeown@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sat Sep 18 09:29:38 2021
    On 18/09/2021 01:51, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
    a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Or shambling zombie corpse.

    A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.

    (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)

    I'm a pathetic parody of Your Name's shambling zombie corpse
    I utter right wing "PC" jibes at all the things the zeitgeist warps
    To big-up women gays and ethnic groups is evil says NewsCorp
    This century is not for me, how long until the penny drops?

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  • From Mike McKeown@21:1/5 to Mike McKeown on Sat Sep 18 14:03:19 2021
    On 18/09/2021 09:29, Mike McKeown wrote:
    On 18/09/2021 01:51, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/17/2021 1:18 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
    T987654321 <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote in news:86faaf77-e8e3-4032-
    a6fa-1c466926dd84n@googlegroups.com:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic parody.

    Or shambling zombie corpse.

    A Pathetic Parody of a Shambling Zombie Corpse.

    (Now how to set that to Model of a Modern Major General....)

    I'm a pathetic parody of Your Name's shambling zombie corpse
    I utter right wing "PC" jibes at all the things the zeitgeist warps
    To big-up women gays and ethnic groups is evil says NewsCorp
    This century is not for me, how long until the penny drops?

    They've taken all my heroes and transformed them to update their shows
    My case in point is Doctor Who, they've made the lead a woman - though
    A dozen times they've changed his height, his age, his weight but even so Shape-shifting aliens can only be straight white male Brits you know!

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ninapenda Jibini on Sun Sep 19 17:44:33 2021
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
    existing character to appease the idiot "Politically Correct"
    whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
    awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
    woman. Those are just two of many many examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the original
    show. And they made everything the exact opposite. Instead of the
    Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic it was being turned
    into a museum. Instead of being robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
    coward and a moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the original
    creator made it to be, including changing it from a good easy-going
    show to hard-going, over-realistic and over-sexed boring crap.

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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sun Sep 19 20:44:08 2021
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
    existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
    Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
    awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
    woman. Those are just two of many many examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
    original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
    Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic
    it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being robots, the
    Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of being an evil
    genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
    original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
    good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
    over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy. That
    was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it was bad,
    or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it *now*, but I
    really don't miss the diary products.)

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sun Sep 19 21:59:52 2021
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
    existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
    Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
    Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
    'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
    examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
    original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
    Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
    archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
    robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
    being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
    moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
    original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
    good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
    over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
    That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it
    was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it
    *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)

    Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
    Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
    *is* and always will be.

    I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been more
    enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

    Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks*
    they know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous,
    selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio
    (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally different show,
    then they should have created his *own* show with it's own name,
    not butcher someone else's work and try to pretend it's the same
    thing.

    Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of the
    Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it apparently
    had something going for it, whether you whine about it like a two
    year old with a dirty diaper or not.

    It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
    Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
    "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

    Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
    more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art into
    a business, especially one that involves that much money.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ninapenda Jibini on Mon Sep 20 09:49:38 2021
    On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
    existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
    Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example, Moore-Ron's
    awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed 'Starbuck' into a
    woman. Those are just two of many many examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
    original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
    Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so archaic
    it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being robots, the
    Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of being an evil
    genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
    original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
    good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
    over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy. That
    was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it was bad,
    or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it *now*, but I
    really don't miss the diary products.)

    Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how Larson
    created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica" *is* and always
    will be.

    Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks* they
    know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous, selfish, and
    obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio (mis)managament wanted to create
    such a totally different show, then they should have created his *own*
    show with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
    pretend it's the same thing.

    It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots" Hollywerid
    keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and "sequel" shows, which
    may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ninapenda Jibini on Mon Sep 20 10:57:29 2021
    On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap an
    existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
    Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
    Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
    'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
    examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
    original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
    Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
    archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
    robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
    being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
    moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
    original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
    good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
    over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
    That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say it
    was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't like it
    *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)

    Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
    Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
    *is* and always will be.

    I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been more
    enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

    Calling it something else would have been sensible, unfortunately
    neither Hollyweird nor management are ever sensible. :-(

    In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would have
    been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show (that had
    already been started!) ... or not do it at all.





    Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and *thinks*
    they know what "it should have been" is simply ridiculous,
    selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the studio
    (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally different show,
    then they should have created his *own* show with it's own name,
    not butcher someone else's work and try to pretend it's the same
    thing.

    Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of the
    Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it apparently
    had something going for it, whether you whine about it like a two
    year old with a dirty diaper or not.

    As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or wether it
    was more popular or not aren't actually relevant - the point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica" and never will be.



    It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
    Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
    "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

    Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
    more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art into
    a business, especially one that involves that much money.

    It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment industry.
    Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men now, Batman changed
    from ordinary comic superhero into a dismally dark "Dark Knight"
    version, etc.

    Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
    stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn match
    the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older books with
    the new cover).

    Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their own
    pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in the first
    place. :-(

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ninapenda Jibini@21:1/5 to Your Name on Mon Sep 20 01:47:37 2021
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8f8p$nb3$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap
    an existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
    Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
    Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
    'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
    examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
    original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
    Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
    archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
    robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
    being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
    moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
    original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
    good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
    over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
    That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say
    it was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't
    like it *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)

    Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
    Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
    *is* and always will be.

    I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been
    more enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

    Calling it something else would have been sensible,
    unfortunately neither Hollyweird nor management are ever
    sensible. :-(

    And never has been.

    In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
    have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
    (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.

    You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?




    Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
    *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
    ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
    studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
    different show, then they should have created his *own* show
    with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
    pretend it's the same thing.

    Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of
    the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
    apparently had something going for it, whether you whine about
    it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.

    As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
    wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant

    Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

    - the
    point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica"
    and never will be.

    Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot decide
    what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you pay for
    it?



    It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
    Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
    "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

    Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
    more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art
    into a business, especially one that involves that much money.

    It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
    industry.

    Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

    Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
    their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men
    now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero into a
    dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.

    That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
    they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're not
    dead."

    It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.

    Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
    stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn
    match the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older
    books with the new cover).

    It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the short
    description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate. Hell, most
    of them don't read the title.

    One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the cover to
    whatever I want.

    Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their
    own pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in
    the first place. :-(

    That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

    You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
    *you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration


    "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

    Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ninapenda Jibini on Mon Sep 20 18:41:17 2021
    On 2021-09-20 01:47:37 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8f8p$nb3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a pathetic
    parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly gender/race-swap
    an existing character to appease the idiot "Politically
    Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and will
    probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
    Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
    'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
    examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from the
    original show. And they made everything the exact opposite.
    Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it was so
    archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead of being
    robots, the Cylons were biological constructs. Instead of
    being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling coward and a
    moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything the
    original creator made it to be, including changing it from a
    good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic and
    over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty cheesy.
    That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's not to say
    it was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even that I don't
    like it *now*, but I really don't miss the diary products.)

    Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
    Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar Galactica"
    *is* and always will be.

    I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been
    more enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

    Calling it something else would have been sensible,
    unfortunately neither Hollyweird nor management are ever
    sensible. :-(

    And never has been.

    In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
    have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
    (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.

    You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?

    Nope, that was also rebooted drivel that had little to do with the
    original show.

    I meant a proper sequel show, ignoring that "Galactica 1980 garbage,
    like the show that was originally planned and had begun work on before Moore-Ron took over.




    Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
    *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
    ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
    studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
    different show, then they should have created his *own* show
    with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try to
    pretend it's the same thing.

    Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history of
    the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
    apparently had something going for it, whether you whine about
    it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.

    As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
    wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant

    Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

    Relevant to the point. :-\


    - the point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar Galactica"
    and never will be.

    Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot decide
    what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you pay for
    it?

    The name belong to the original product and its creator. It was created
    by him to be exactly as it was.




    It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
    Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
    "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

    Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to buy
    more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a creative art
    into a business, especially one that involves that much money.

    It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
    industry.

    Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

    Some of it is becoming owned by the electronics manufacturers (Sony,
    Apple) and web-retailers (Amazon).



    Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
    their existing characters. There are a few different Spider-men
    now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero into a
    dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.

    That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
    they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're not
    dead."

    It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.

    Completely different.



    Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series, but
    stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that doesn
    match the existing ones (and of course they re-release the older
    books with the new cover).

    It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the short
    description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate. Hell, most
    of them don't read the title.

    I was talking more about the design style of the cover, as well as the
    physical size of the book in some cases.



    One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the cover to
    whatever I want.

    Defeats the purpose since you can't have them sitting in a row on the
    book shelf.



    Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into their
    own pockets and screw the original fans who made it popular in
    the first place. :-(

    That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

    No, the purpose of running a business is to satisfy the customer - in
    this case it is (or at least should be!) the fans who have helped make
    it a successful product. Yet what they get is a silly "reboot" ... a moronically stupid idea that anyone with sense wouldn't even dream up
    (but as above, Hollyweird has no sense) - it kicks the existing fans in
    the teeth, while re-using the same name means the non-fans they're
    supposedly trying to attract are already less likely to give it a look
    (why would anyone with a braincell who didn't like the original show
    bother to even watch something using the same name!?).



    You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
    *you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

    I never said anything about "owning" it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha@21:1/5 to Your Name on Mon Sep 20 15:57:23 2021
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si9aed$1cft$1@gioia.aioe.org:

    On 2021-09-20 01:47:37 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8f8p$nb3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-19 21:59:52 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si8b9i$1991$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-19 20:44:08 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si6io0$tdn$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-18 04:29:51 +0000, Ninapenda Jibini said:
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote in
    news:si3bgg$17j3$1@gioia.aioe.org:
    On 2021-09-17 21:45:03 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    On 17/09/2021 22:31, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-09-17 17:35:03 +0000, T987654321 said:

    Sadly the show died and has been replaced by a
    pathetic parody.

    That's what happens when they stupidly
    gender/race-swap an existing character to appease the
    idiot "Politically Correct" whiners.

    Sadly, the BBC won't see the error of their ways and
    will probably do exactly the same thing next year.

    It's by no means just the BBC either. For example,
    Moore-Ron's awful "Battlestar Galactica" reboot changed
    'Starbuck' into a woman. Those are just two of many many
    examples.

    Along with about half the characters recognizable from
    the original show. And they made everything the exact
    opposite. Instead of the Galactica being the flagship, it
    was so archaic it was being turned into a museum. Instead
    of being robots, the Cylons were biological constructs.
    Instead of being an evil genius, Baltar was a sniveling
    coward and a moron. And so on.

    Can't complain about the cheese-ectomy, though.

    Moore-Ron changed it to the exact opposite of everything
    the original creator made it to be, including changing it
    from a good easy-going show to hard-going, over-realistic
    and over-sexed boring crap.

    Even by the stardards of the late 70s, it was pretty
    cheesy. That was one of Glen Larson's trademarks. (That's
    not to say it was bad, or that I didn't like it, or even
    that I don't like it *now*, but I really don't miss the
    diary products.)

    Whether or not any individual person likes it, *that* is how
    Larson created it to be ... that's what "Battlestar
    Galactica" *is* and always will be.

    I won't argue with the idea that the remake would have been
    more enjoyable if they'd called it something else.

    Calling it something else would have been sensible,
    unfortunately neither Hollyweird nor management are ever
    sensible. :-(

    And never has been.

    In terms of proper "Battlestar Galactica", the best idea would
    have been to do the original idea of a proper follow-on show
    (that had already been started!) ... or not do it at all.

    You mean like Battlestar Galactica 1980?

    Nope, that was also rebooted drivel that had little to do with
    the original show.

    I meant a proper sequel show, ignoring that "Galactica 1980
    garbage, like the show that was originally planned and had begun
    work on before Moore-Ron took over.




    Some over-egoed talentless moron comes along later and
    *thinks* they know what "it should have been" is simply
    ridiculous, selfish, and obnoxious. If Moore-Ron and the
    studio (mis)managament wanted to create such a totally
    different show, then they should have created his *own* show
    with it's own name, not butcher someone else's work and try
    to pretend it's the same thing.

    Given that it got the highest ratings of any show in history
    of the Syphilis Channel (at the time, and possibly still), it
    apparently had something going for it, whether you whine
    about it like a two year old with a dirty diaper or not.

    As above, whether or not any individual person likes it or
    wether it was more popular or not aren't actually relevant

    Except to the people who spend millions of dollars making it.

    Relevant to the point. :-\


    - the point was that Moore-Ron's show is *not* "Battlestar
    Galactica" and never will be.

    Because, of course, the name belongs to you, so you get ot
    decide what is and isn't suitable for its use. How much did you
    pay for it?

    The name belong to the original product and its creator. It was
    created by him to be exactly as it was.




    It's the same with all the other imbecilic actual "reboots"
    Hollywerid keeps churning out. (As opposed to "remakes" and
    "sequel" shows, which may or may not be stupid ideas too.)

    Hollywood ran out of ideas decades ago, and is too cheap to
    buy more. That's the inevitable end game of turning a
    creative art into a business, especially one that involves
    that much money.

    It isn't even just Hollyweird. It's the whole entertainment
    industry.

    Most of which is owned by movie studios these days.

    Some of it is becoming owned by the electronics manufacturers
    (Sony, Apple) and web-retailers (Amazon).



    Comic book also have idiotic reboots where they change
    their existing characters. There are a few different
    Spider-men now, Batman changed from ordinary comic superhero
    into a dismally dark "Dark Knight" version, etc.

    That's as inherent as part of the genre as "if they're dead,
    they're not dead, and if you have a body, that proves they're
    not dead."

    It's like complaning that cop shows have chase scenes.

    Completely different.



    Even in books they release a new book in an on-going series,
    but stupidly give it a completely differecnt cover design that
    doesn match the existing ones (and of course they re-release
    the older books with the new cover).

    It's not like the cover artists read the books, or even the
    short description of the scene they're supposed to illustrate.
    Hell, most of them don't read the title.

    I was talking more about the design style of the cover, as well
    as the physical size of the book in some cases.



    One of the advantages of ebooks is that I can *change* the
    cover to whatever I want.

    Defeats the purpose since you can't have them sitting in a row
    on the book shelf.



    Most of it is pure seflish greed to shovel more money into
    their own pockets and screw the original fans who made it
    popular in the first place. :-(

    That being the point of bunning a business, after all.

    No, the purpose of running a business is to satisfy the customer

    Oh, you sweet, innocent child.


    You seem to be suffering from a common delusion in fandom: that
    *you* own the property, not the people who actually do.

    I never said anything about "owning" it.

    And yet, you make grand pronouncements about it that are the
    purview of those who own it. Glad you agree you're full of it.

    --
    Terry Austin

    Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
    Lynn:
    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
    (May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
    illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

    Vacation photos from Iceland:
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)