• Re: _The Door Into Summer_ Movie

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to peterwezeman@hotmail.com on Tue Feb 1 19:16:28 2022
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    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

    From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
    https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat
    man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
    summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
    wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
    movie will be dubbed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Lynn

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Tue Feb 1 22:47:12 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

    From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
    https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat >man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he >wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still >wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
    summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
    wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
    movie will be dubbed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Wed Feb 2 15:00:31 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

    From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
    https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
    movie will be dubbed.

    It's subtitled. It's quite good.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to J. Clarke on Wed Feb 2 12:50:35 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

    From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
    https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat >> man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
    wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
    wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
    summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
    wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese. My Japanese really sucks. I suspect the
    movie will be dubbed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

    I watched ten minutes last night. It was a LOT of subtitles. I am not
    sure if I am going to watch more.

    Lynn

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  • From Jay E. Morris@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Wed Feb 2 15:12:43 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

      From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
        https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a cat >>> man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he >>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still
    wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
    summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
    wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the
    movie will be dubbed.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

    I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am not sure if I am going to watch more.

    Lynn

    Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
    too often.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Jay E. Morris on Wed Feb 2 19:52:26 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    On 2/2/2022 3:12 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

      From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
        https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a >>>> cat
    man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he >>>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still >>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
    summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
    wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the >>>> movie will be dubbed.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

    I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am
    not sure if I am going to watch more.

    Lynn

    Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
    too often.

    Yeah, I am spending too much time on the subtitles also. Very distracting.

    Lynn

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Wed Feb 2 21:47:23 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 19:52:26 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/2/2022 3:12 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

      From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
        https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a >>>>> cat
    man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he >>>>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still >>>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into
    summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and
    wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the >>>>> movie will be dubbed.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

    I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am
    not sure if I am going to watch more.

    Lynn

    Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
    too often.

    Yeah, I am spending too much time on the subtitles also. Very distracting.

    I think they did a pretty good job. They had to change the technology somewhat, reasonable facsimiles of "Hired Girl" and "Draftin' Dan"
    have been commercial products for decades. The Belle (sorry, never
    got the Japanese character name fixed in my head) relationship could
    have stood to get some more development before the betrayal but that
    would have added another 10-20 minutes to an already long movie.

    I have mixed emotions about the cat. The cat they chose is a superb
    actor, but he didn't look the part--he wasn't beat up enough for one
    thing. And he didn't do nearly enough damage to Belle.

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to jclarke.873638@gmail.com on Thu Feb 3 04:21:11 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    In article <iqfmvg5ifgjlesl1sthk9ln07aakrjv2c1@4ax.com>,
    J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 19:52:26 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/2/2022 3:12 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

      From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
        https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a >>>>>> cat
    man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he >>>>>> wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I
    couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still >>>>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into >>>>>> summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and >>>>>> wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the >>>>>> movie will be dubbed.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

    I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am
    not sure if I am going to watch more.

    Lynn

    Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back
    too often.

    Yeah, I am spending too much time on the subtitles also. Very distracting.

    I think they did a pretty good job. They had to change the technology >somewhat, reasonable facsimiles of "Hired Girl" and "Draftin' Dan"
    have been commercial products for decades. The Belle (sorry, never
    got the Japanese character name fixed in my head) relationship could
    have stood to get some more development before the betrayal but that
    would have added another 10-20 minutes to an already long movie.

    I have mixed emotions about the cat. The cat they chose is a superb
    actor, but he didn't look the part--he wasn't beat up enough for one
    thing. And he didn't do nearly enough damage to Belle.

    To do suffient damage to her, he would have had to be the size of
    a full-grown tiger with the ferocity of a black-footed cat.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-footed_cat

    So small, so pretty, so ferocious; it catches more prey per
    attempt than any other carnivore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8o9PsJPAQ


    OTOH what wound up happening to Belle was even more appropriate.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 3 22:44:38 2022
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, alt.fan.heinlein

    On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 04:21:11 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
    wrote:

    In article <iqfmvg5ifgjlesl1sthk9ln07aakrjv2c1@4ax.com>,
    J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 19:52:26 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/2/2022 3:12 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
    On 2/2/2022 12:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 2/1/2022 9:47 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
    On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 19:16:28 -0600, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2022 6:54 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
    Takahiro Miki's 2021 movie of Robert Heinlein's novel
    _The Door into Summer_ is now available on Netflix.
    Elisabeth Vincentelli gives it a favorable review in
    the arts section of today's _New York Times_.

      From a Google search the protagonist is the inventor
    of a humanoid robot rather than the Roomba-like
    device described in the book.

    Peter Wezeman
    anti-social Darwinist

    It is longer than 90 minutes, that is always a good sign.
        https://www.netflix.com/title/81517003

    Ah, the book was inspired by Heinlein's cat !
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer

    "When we were living in Colorado there was snowfall. Our cat — I'm a >>>>>>> cat
    man — wanted to get out of the house so I opened a door for him but he
    wouldn't leave. Just kept on crying. He'd seen snow before and I >>>>>>> couldn't understand it. I kept opening other doors for him and he still >>>>>>> wouldn't leave. Then Ginny said, 'Oh, he's looking for a door into >>>>>>> summer.' I threw up my hands, told her not to say another word, and >>>>>>> wrote the novel The Door Into Summer in 13 days.[3]"

    The trailer is in Japanese.  My Japanese really sucks.  I suspect the >>>>>>> movie will be dubbed.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M39FNAlhPnU

    Subtitled.

    I watched ten minutes last night.  It was a LOT of subtitles.  I am >>>>> not sure if I am going to watch more.

    Lynn

    Yeah, same here. I'm reading and not watching. Find myself zipping back >>>> too often.

    Yeah, I am spending too much time on the subtitles also. Very distracting. >>
    I think they did a pretty good job. They had to change the technology >>somewhat, reasonable facsimiles of "Hired Girl" and "Draftin' Dan"
    have been commercial products for decades. The Belle (sorry, never
    got the Japanese character name fixed in my head) relationship could
    have stood to get some more development before the betrayal but that
    would have added another 10-20 minutes to an already long movie.

    I have mixed emotions about the cat. The cat they chose is a superb
    actor, but he didn't look the part--he wasn't beat up enough for one
    thing. And he didn't do nearly enough damage to Belle.

    To do suffient damage to her, he would have had to be the size of
    a full-grown tiger with the ferocity of a black-footed cat.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-footed_cat

    So small, so pretty, so ferocious; it catches more prey per
    attempt than any other carnivore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8o9PsJPAQ


    OTOH what wound up happening to Belle was even more appropriate.

    One time my mother cornered a stray cat. She didn't mean it any harm,
    just wanted to pet it. The cat didn't mean any harm either, it just
    panicked. 72 stitches and an arterial graft later . . .

    That was a scary incident for me. This was right after the
    Tate-LaBianca murders. I came home late one night, like around 11:00.
    No lights on, parents car not in the driveway. That was
    worrisome--they didn't tend to stay out late especially on week
    nights. So go in the house, and there's blood everywhere. I mean
    streaks of it on the effing _ceiling_ and this was an old house with
    high ceilings. I called the Sheriff and loaded the shotgun.

    The Sheriff was trying to be reassuring and not having much luck when
    my folks drove up, my mother's right arm bandaged to the shoulder and
    in a sling, and my dad explained what had happened. The Sheriff was
    greatly relieved but then my Dad had the rather grim duty of trapping
    the poor cat so they could determine if it had rabies which it didn't,
    which was no consolation to the cat.

    So I was expecting Belle to look somewhat worse off than my Mom, given
    that artistic license is allowed and it's Japanese besides and I was a
    bit disappointed.

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