I saw Dune last night in 3D in IMAX. I've read the book at least times in
my life and I've watched the 2000 Syfy miniseries several times also. I
know every twist and turn of the story, so I wasn't expecting much new. I >just wanted to see how Denis Villeneuve would tell the story.
First of all, the casting was almost spot on. The only mistake was the
gender swapping of Kynes, though the actress herself did a decent enough
job.
The cinematography was meh. Everything was too dark, too, dusty, too
misty, too sandy, etc. In too many scenes, it was just too hard to make
out what was happening and it became a distraction.
Paul has a minor amount of character development, but he still seemed
kind of whiny even at the end. Granted, this is part of a two-part movie,
but after 2.5 hours, I would have expected more. The Baron Harkonnen has
vey little personality. Oscar Isaac seemed to be phoning it in a little
as Duke Leto. Jason Momoa's Duncan Idaho seemed to be having a good time,
but then Jason Momoa always seems to be having a good time no matter what >he's doing. Missing from the books is Princess Irulan and Feyd-Rautha >Harkonnen.
Finally, I have one last gripe. There are too many foreshadowing >flashforwards which leaves the story a non-linear mess in some places. If >you're not already a Dune fan, I think this will leave you pretty
confused in some places.
I give this movie a 3/5. I could have been better and I hope that part 2 >redeems part 1.
Can you at least /tell/ they are flash-forwards [1]? For example, by
toning down the color saturation. (Preferably /not/ by flashing a red
light throughout the scene, as at least one film did back in the late
60s or thereabouts).
On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:01:10 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:
Can you at least /tell/ they are flash-forwards [1]? For example, by
toning down the color saturation. (Preferably /not/ by flashing a red
light throughout the scene, as at least one film did back in the late
60s or thereabouts).
You really can't. There's no color saturation or other "dream effect".
It's just another scene stuck after the previous scene. It's actually
quite jarring. *I* knew it was a flash forward because I know the story
but I do think it will be difficult for someone who is new to the story.
I won't give out specifics, but there is one character that you see more >often in flash forwards than you do in the current time of the story and
it leaves you wondering, "where did this person come from?" oh wait, it's >another flash forward.
On 22 Oct 2021 07:50:18 GMT, Thor Odinson <th...@mjolnir.boom> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:01:10 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:
Can you at least /tell/ they are flash-forwards [1]? For example, by
toning down the color saturation. (Preferably /not/ by flashing a red
light throughout the scene, as at least one film did back in the late
60s or thereabouts).
You really can't. There's no color saturation or other "dream effect".That's ... unfortunate.
It's just another scene stuck after the previous scene. It's actually
quite jarring. *I* knew it was a flash forward because I know the story
but I do think it will be difficult for someone who is new to the story.
I won't give out specifics, but there is one character that you see more >often in flash forwards than you do in the current time of the story and
it leaves you wondering, "where did this person come from?" oh wait, it's >another flash forward.
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:<snip>
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most everybody else I
actually liked the Lynch version.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote in >news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote: ><snip>
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most everybody else I
actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it.
And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't
have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I didn't think it was a >perfect way to convey what they were trying to show, but it did well
enough. Better than some of the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I would say that >it's easily better than any other movie/miniseries adaptation out there,
and did a better than average job at making the experience of the movie >similar to the experience of reading a book (something I think *very* few >movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but it >didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the sound,
music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was generally >above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote in >news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote: ><snip>
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most everybody else I
actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it.
And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't
have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I didn't think it was a >perfect way to convey what they were trying to show, but it did well
enough. Better than some of the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I would say that >it's easily better than any other movie/miniseries adaptation out there,
and did a better than average job at making the experience of the movie >similar to the experience of reading a book (something I think *very* few >movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but it >didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the sound,
music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was generally >above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote in news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:<snip>
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most everybody else I
actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it.
And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't
have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I didn't think it was a perfect way to convey what they were trying to show, but it did well
enough. Better than some of the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I would say that it's easily better than any other movie/miniseries adaptation out there,
and did a better than average job at making the experience of the movie similar to the experience of reading a book (something I think *very* few movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but it didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the sound,
music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was generally above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 03:55:38 -0000 (UTC), Lafe <lafe@lafes.invalid>
wrote:
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it. >>And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't >>have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I didn't think it was a >>perfect way to convey what they were trying to show, but it did well >>enough. Better than some of the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I would say
that it's easily better than any other movie/miniseries adaptation out >>there, and did a better than average job at making the experience of the >>movie similar to the experience of reading a book (something I think
*very* few movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but
it didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the
sound, music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was >>generally above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
Do you feel that it will benefit from being seen in a theater?
On 10/23/2021 8:55 PM, Lafe wrote:
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote inI just got back from seeing it and I agree. I think it was
news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person<snip>
wrote:
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it
... downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still
your reviews don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most
everybody else I actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge
fan of it. And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but
I didn't have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I
didn't think it was a perfect way to convey what they were
trying to show, but it did well enough. Better than some of
the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I
would say that it's easily better than any other
movie/miniseries adaptation out there, and did a better than
average job at making the experience of the movie similar to
the experience of reading a book (something I think *very* few
movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the
book, but it didn't detract from the experience at all for me.
I thought the sound, music, and cinematography was very well
done, and the acting was generally above average, and in some
cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
actually a very good adaptation of a hard to translate to the
screen book.
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope.
And unlike most everybody else I actually liked the Lynch version.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote in >news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote: ><snip>
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most everybody else I
actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it.
And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't
have any trouble following the "flash-forwards".
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but it >didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the sound,
music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was generally >above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in >news:sl4n5h$snm$1@dont-email.me:
On 10/23/2021 8:55 PM, Lafe wrote:That would be encouraging if I had liked the book.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote inI just got back from seeing it and I agree. I think it was
news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person<snip>
wrote:
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it
... downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still
your reviews don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most
everybody else I actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge
fan of it. And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but
I didn't have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I
didn't think it was a perfect way to convey what they were
trying to show, but it did well enough. Better than some of
the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I
would say that it's easily better than any other
movie/miniseries adaptation out there, and did a better than
average job at making the experience of the movie similar to
the experience of reading a book (something I think *very* few
movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the
book, but it didn't detract from the experience at all for me.
I thought the sound, music, and cinematography was very well
done, and the acting was generally above average, and in some
cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
actually a very good adaptation of a hard to translate to the
screen book.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 03:55:38 -0000 (UTC), Lafe <lafe@lafes.invalid>
wrote:
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote: >><snip>
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it ...
downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still your reviews
don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most everybody else I
actually liked the Lynch version.
My daughter has a crush on Timothee Chalamet, so she got HBO Max
specifically to watch this movie and talked me into watching it with
her. I've read the book a few times, mostly trying to figure out why
so many other people rave about it. For me, it's one of those "I can
respect it but don't really like it" kind of books.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it. >>And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
Same here. About this one - I thought the Lynch version was Mystery
Science Theater material.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't >>have any trouble following the "flash-forwards".
Again, same here. They weren't really flash forwards, they were
visions and dreams that Paul was having, and I no trouble telling them
apart from the real-time action of the movie. They were usually in
slow motion or had a different color tone...or just obviously weren't
what was happening right that moment.
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but it >>didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the sound, >>music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was generally >>above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
My major gripe is the same as most modern movies (especially sci-fi
for some reason) - half the movie was too dark to see what the hell
was going on. There's a scene towards the end with one of the
sandworms where I turned to my daughter and said "I bet this would be
really impressive if you could see ANYTHING right now."
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
Agreed, especially for fans of the book. It's well done enough that
I'm looking forward to watching the second half when it comes out.
After we watched it on Saturday night, my daughter tried to talk me
into going to see it in a theater on Sunday (despite having a big
screen TV and surround sound set-up at home). It would probably
benefit from a theater-sized screen, but I wasn't wild about the idea
of sitting in a Covid stew for two and a half hours. So we
compromised and watched it again on HBO Max and I liked it even better
the second time.
Speaking of subwoofers, my minor gripe is that super-loud
"ba-rooooommmmmmm" noise in the soundtrack that has become another
cliche of sci-fi movies. That's getting a little tired. Other than
that though, I thought the soundtrack music was really good.
The acting was a little flat, but better than I expected given some of
the other reviews I've read. And I'll take understated and subtle
over melodramatic and over-the-top any day.
Best result of the movie - my daughter asked to borrow my copy of Dune
and asked if there were any other sci-fi books I'd recommend.
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in >news:9l4angpd864eg1s52b920iqddj92rjmikl@4ax.com: <snip>
On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 03:55:38 -0000 (UTC), Lafe <lafe@lafes.invalid>
wrote:
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge fan of it. >>>And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy, but I didn't >>>have any trouble following the "flash-forwards". I didn't think it was a >>>perfect way to convey what they were trying to show, but it did well >>>enough. Better than some of the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I would say
that it's easily better than any other movie/miniseries adaptation out >>>there, and did a better than average job at making the experience of the >>>movie similar to the experience of reading a book (something I think >>>*very* few movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the book, but >>>it didn't detract from the experience at all for me. I thought the
sound, music, and cinematography was very well done, and the acting was >>>generally above average, and in some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
Do you feel that it will benefit from being seen in a theater?
Well, yes, probably. I saw it at home. But I have a large screen, and >surround sound with an aggressive subwoofer. It used the subwoofer a lot. >There was a large dynamic range of quiet conversation to giant
earth-shaking sound in this movie. If your home theater can handle it,
watch it at home. It's a long film, and being able to pause to go pee is >super useful. If you can't watch it at home, the theater will add that
epic sound (booty shaklng) element to your experience. A bit reminiscent
of Blade Runner 2048. The sound and music element was fantastic.
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:45:42 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in >>news:sl4n5h$snm$1@dont-email.me:
On 10/23/2021 8:55 PM, Lafe wrote:That would be encouraging if I had liked the book.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote inI just got back from seeing it and I agree. I think it was
news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S<snip>
Person wrote:
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it
... downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still
your reviews don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most
everybody else I actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge
fan of it. And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy,
but I didn't have any trouble following the "flash-forwards".
I didn't think it was a perfect way to convey what they were
trying to show, but it did well enough. Better than some of
the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I
would say that it's easily better than any other
movie/miniseries adaptation out there, and did a better than
average job at making the experience of the movie similar to
the experience of reading a book (something I think *very*
few movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the
book, but it didn't detract from the experience at all for
me. I thought the sound, music, and cinematography was very
well done, and the acting was generally above average, and in
some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
actually a very good adaptation of a hard to translate to the
screen book.
And you might still like the movie -- unless, in this case,
adaptation /is/ transcription.
Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in >news:piidngl2v8bj1fic3jh0nl1r6rq9c0891k@4ax.com:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 04:45:42 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in >>>news:sl4n5h$snm$1@dont-email.me:
On 10/23/2021 8:55 PM, Lafe wrote:That would be encouraging if I had liked the book.
"novaste...@gmail.com" <novasteve14099@gmail.com> wrote inI just got back from seeing it and I agree. I think it was
news:b86b9b4f-e66e-4558-9668-eddb5639c27dn@googlegroups.com:
On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 9:34:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S<snip>
Person wrote:
I'll be adjusting the price I am willing to pay to rent it
... downwards.
But I'm sure I'll see it eventually.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Fortunately I have HBO Max so I can see it for free, still
your reviews don't leave me with much hope. And unlike most
everybody else I actually liked the Lynch version.
I liked the Lynch version well enough, though I wasn't a huge
fan of it. And I have read the books.
I thoroughly enjoyed this adaptation.
My memory of the many details in the books is quite fuzzy,
but I didn't have any trouble following the "flash-forwards".
I didn't think it was a perfect way to convey what they were
trying to show, but it did well enough. Better than some of
the "vision" sequences in the Lynch movie.
I went into it without having a lot of expectations, but I
would say that it's easily better than any other
movie/miniseries adaptation out there, and did a better than
average job at making the experience of the movie similar to
the experience of reading a book (something I think *very*
few movie adaptations accomplish).
It certainly wasn't (and can't be) perfect at replicating the
book, but it didn't detract from the experience at all for
me. I thought the sound, music, and cinematography was very
well done, and the acting was generally above average, and in
some cases truly excellent.
I think it's well worth your time to see it.
actually a very good adaptation of a hard to translate to the
screen book.
And you might still like the movie -- unless, in this case,
adaptation /is/ transcription.
It was the comment that it's "a very good adaptation" that I was
commenting on. The more faithful to the book it is, the less
interested I am.
Is it just me or did anybody else notice this. It's the year 10,191, they have unbelievable technology, yet everybody fights with knives and swords. Was the book like this?
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