• Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Fri Aug 13 13:13:08 2021
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    On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory


    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

    The Depp version was just strange. Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at
    that point in his career.

    Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.

    Thanks,
    Lynn

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 13 12:54:07 2021
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    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

    I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.

    Lynn

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Fri Aug 13 18:00:48 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory


    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Fri Aug 13 18:08:29 2021
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    In article <kryRI.21889$6p.4085@fx36.iad>,
    Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory


    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

    And of course there's a "Pitch Meeting":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inf5du8u7OE
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Fri Aug 13 20:48:47 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

    The Depp version was just strange. Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at
    that point in his career.

    Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.

    It was a loose adaptation. Quite a lot of it was new to the movie. Roald
    Dahl was not please with the story changes, nor the title change, given
    that Charlie was meant to be the central character.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sat Aug 14 10:34:11 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-08-13 18:13:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory


    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

    The Depp version was just strange.

    Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
    less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.



    Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at that point in his career.

    This is one of the very few musical movies I actually like. Another one
    is "Bugsy Malone", although ruined by the ending simply turning into a
    massive food fight.



    Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.

    Thanks,
    Lynn

    Your parents never read / gave you Roald Dahl's books?? They should be
    in prison for cruelty to children! ;-)

    The original Roadl Dahl book is caled "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".

    Reportedly child actor Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) was offered a
    three picture deal, but he decided not to take it and became a
    veterinarian instead. Originally there was meant to be at least one
    more movie based on the sequel book "Charlie and the Great Glass
    Elevator" which carries on the story immediately after the first book,
    but Dahl disliked the Gene wilder movie so much that he refused to
    allow any more movies or TV shows to be made. There is also an
    unfinished third Roald Dahl book called "Charlie in the White House",
    which may or may not have been what the third film would have been.

    There is now a new prequel movie coming called "Wonka" due in March
    2023, but it's not based on any Roald Dahl book - it's simply rubbish
    made up by Hollyweird following a younger Wonka before he opened the
    factory (i.e. discovering the Oompa Loompas, etc.).

    The other best-known Roald Dahl book is "James and the Giant Peach". A
    movie was made of it using stop-motion animation, but it's another of
    weirdo Tim Burton's strange garbage.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Aug 14 12:35:45 2021
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    On 2021-08-13 22:34:11 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2021-08-13 18:13:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory


    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal.

    The Depp version was just strange.

    Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
    less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.



    Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at that point in his career.

    This is one of the very few musical movies I actually like. Another one
    is "Bugsy Malone", although ruined by the ending simply turning into a massive food fight.



    Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure.

    Thanks,
    Lynn

    Your parents never read / gave you Roald Dahl's books?? They should be
    in prison for cruelty to children! ;-)

    The original Roadl Dahl book is caled "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".

    Reportedly child actor Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) was offered a
    three picture deal, but he decided not to take it and became a
    veterinarian instead. Originally there was meant to be at least one
    more movie based on the sequel book "Charlie and the Great Glass
    Elevator" which carries on the story immediately after the first book,
    but Dahl disliked the Gene wilder movie so much that he refused to
    allow any more movies or TV shows to be made. There is also an
    unfinished third Roald Dahl book called "Charlie in the White House",
    which may or may not have been what the third film would have been.

    There is now a new prequel movie coming called "Wonka" due in March
    2023, but it's not based on any Roald Dahl book - it's simply rubbish
    made up by Hollyweird following a younger Wonka before he opened the
    factory (i.e. discovering the Oompa Loompas, etc.).

    The other best-known Roald Dahl book is "James and the Giant Peach". A
    movie was made of it using stop-motion animation, but it's another of
    weirdo Tim Burton's strange garbage.

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
    movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
    that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Your Name on Fri Aug 13 22:05:03 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory >>
    I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.

    Lynn

    Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
    into space.

    Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.

    Lynn

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sat Aug 14 18:24:44 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

    I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.

    Lynn

    Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
    into space.

    Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.

    Lynn

    Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
    sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they crossover) ... technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy.
    :-)

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Aug 14 18:28:00 2021
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    On 2021-08-14 00:35:45 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2021-08-13 22:34:11 +0000, Your Name said:

    On 2021-08-13 18:13:08 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    On 8/13/2021 1:00 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory


    Given this is cross posted to rec.arts.sf.written, one might
    point out that the book dates from 1964.

    Personally, I read the book before I saw the movie, and I still
    enjoy the book more.

    The Depp version was a bit different; I preferred the Wilder portrayal. >>>
    The Depp version was just strange.

    Johnny Dipstick is just strange ... as is Tim Burton, and very slightly
    less so his wife Helena Bonham-Carter.



    Gene Wilder is freaking awesome at that point in his career.

    This is one of the very few musical movies I actually like. Another one
    is "Bugsy Malone", although ruined by the ending simply turning into a
    massive food fight.



    Good to know that it was based on a book. I thought so but was not sure. >>>
    Thanks,
    Lynn

    Your parents never read / gave you Roald Dahl's books?? They should be
    in prison for cruelty to children! ;-)

    The original Roadl Dahl book is caled "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory". >>
    Reportedly child actor Peter Ostrum (Charlie Bucket) was offered a
    three picture deal, but he decided not to take it and became a
    veterinarian instead. Originally there was meant to be at least one
    more movie based on the sequel book "Charlie and the Great Glass
    Elevator" which carries on the story immediately after the first book,
    but Dahl disliked the Gene wilder movie so much that he refused to
    allow any more movies or TV shows to be made. There is also an
    unfinished third Roald Dahl book called "Charlie in the White House",
    which may or may not have been what the third film would have been.

    There is now a new prequel movie coming called "Wonka" due in March
    2023, but it's not based on any Roald Dahl book - it's simply rubbish
    made up by Hollyweird following a younger Wonka before he opened the
    factory (i.e. discovering the Oompa Loompas, etc.).

    The other best-known Roald Dahl book is "James and the Giant Peach". A
    movie was made of it using stop-motion animation, but it's another of
    weirdo Tim Burton's strange garbage.

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
    movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
    that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dahl books.

    Another one I forgot (and not in my box-set of books) is "Matilda"
    which also had a movie, and an up-coming sequel (although not based on
    a Dahl book).

    I've never read nor seen either of these last two stories.

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  • From Michael F. Stemper@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Aug 14 08:26:32 2021
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    On 14/08/2021 01.24, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory >>>>
    I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.

    Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
    into space.

    Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.

    Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
    sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they crossover)

    Everybody agrees that science fiction and fantasy are two different
    things. However, no two people agree on the location of the line between
    them. See the FAQ for rasw:

    <http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm#08>

    technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy.

    No, at least the "written" newgroup is for Speculative Fiction, which
    includes both science fiction and fantasy. Again, see the FAQ: <http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm#00>

    --
    Michael F. Stemper
    I feel more like I do now than I did when I came in.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Sat Aug 14 09:37:02 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 12:54:07 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

    I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.

    I never liked it. Boring and obvious was, IIRC, my conclusion.

    So, having read some of the other responses, I can say:

    -- I agree with Dahl; I'm sure the book was a /lot/ better
    -- I took one look at Depp-as-Wonka and lost all interest in the
    remake
    -- Helena Bonham-Carter did an exellent job in the Harry Potter
    movies; sadly, she then played the same role in other movies, where it
    was not actually appropriate
    -- I did like the /James and the Giant Peach/ movie, particularly the rhinosaurus
    -- wasn't /The Witches/ (the 1990 one, I haven't seen the newer one
    yet) also from a book by Dahl? -- now, /that/ was a good movie!
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Aug 14 14:05:06 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 8/14/2021 1:24 AM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-08-14 03:05:03 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/13/2021 5:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
    On 2021-08-13 17:54:07 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:

    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory >>>>
    I watched it again in the last year.  Still a great fantasy.

    Lynn

    Not really a "sci-fi" movie / book, although the sequel book does go
    into space.

    Like I said, fantasy, not science fiction.

    Lynn

    Despite many people like book publishers lumping the two together,
    sci-fi and fantasy are not the same thing (although in some cases they crossover) ... technically both newsgroups are for sci-fi, not fantasy. :-)

    I read about 50/50 science fiction and fantasy. I post both reviews
    here. This is a Speculative Fiction group according to the FAQ.
    http://leepers.us/evelyn/faqs/sf-written.htm

    Lynn

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  • From Leif Roar Moldskred@21:1/5 to Your Name on Sat Aug 14 17:19:11 2021
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    In rec.arts.sf.written Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
    movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
    that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the
    Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    --
    Leif Roar Moldskred

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Leif Roar Moldskred on Sun Aug 15 00:58:16 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish >>movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
    that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the
    Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    And You Only Live Twice, but I can't forgive him for killing Aki.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to leifm@huldreheim.Home on Sun Aug 15 09:23:22 2021
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    On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:19:11 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred
    <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
    movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
    that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the
    Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    I didn't enjoy "Fantasic Mr. Fox": I kept /hearing/ the Famous Actor,
    but never /seeing/ him. What can I say? Other than this is the only
    instance of that particular problem I can recall.

    "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" was a great film, even if the middle is a
    bit of a muddle. At least, the VHS/DVD versions were; I don't recall
    noticing this when I saw it in the theater.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Ted Nolan @21:1/5 to psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid on Sun Aug 15 16:31:15 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <rlfihg1d04een81fa105rj7865uik73dcl@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:19:11 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred ><leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish
    movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time)
    that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the
    Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    I didn't enjoy "Fantasic Mr. Fox": I kept /hearing/ the Famous Actor,
    but never /seeing/ him. What can I say? Other than this is the only
    instance of that particular problem I can recall.

    I thought it was rather minor when I saw it: OK, but no big deal.


    "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" was a great film, even if the middle is a
    bit of a muddle. At least, the VHS/DVD versions were; I don't recall
    noticing this when I saw it in the theater.

    I liked it when I saw it, but I was 7. Later I read the book and liked
    that better. (BTW, there's a sequel: Chitty is back, and she's a camper!
    [No, I didn't read it])
    --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Sun Aug 15 09:19:55 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 00:58:16 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish >>>movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time) >>>that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the
    Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    And You Only Live Twice, but I can't forgive him for killing Aki.

    It's been so long I have forgotten whether Aki is in the book and, if
    she is, whether she dies.

    In the film this is necessary to clear the decks for his cover.
    Traditional Family Values can be a bitch.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Sun Aug 15 17:33:48 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    Sun, 15 Aug 2021 00:58:16 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>: >>Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish >>>>movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time) >>>>that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the >>>Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    And You Only Live Twice, but I can't forgive him for killing Aki.

    It's been so long I have forgotten whether Aki is in the book and, if
    she is, whether she dies.

    Aki was created for the movie. Kissy is in the novel but a somewhat
    different character.

    In the film this is necessary to clear the decks for his cover.
    Traditional Family Values can be a bitch.

    Dahl has said he felt he was olbiged to write to some formula in which
    one of Bond's lovers dies at a certain point (spurring on Bond's later actions), but he accidentally created an unforgetable Bond girl with an unnecessary and unsatisfying death. Bond was hardly affected by it.

    He was never asked back to write another screenplay for anyone after
    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

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  • From Joe Pfeiffer@21:1/5 to ted@loft.tnolan.com on Sun Aug 15 16:31:13 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) writes:

    In article <rlfihg1d04een81fa105rj7865uik73dcl@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:19:11 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred >><leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish >>>> movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time) >>>> that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the >>>Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    I didn't enjoy "Fantasic Mr. Fox": I kept /hearing/ the Famous Actor,
    but never /seeing/ him. What can I say? Other than this is the only >>instance of that particular problem I can recall.

    I thought it was rather minor when I saw it: OK, but no big deal.


    "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" was a great film, even if the middle is a
    bit of a muddle. At least, the VHS/DVD versions were; I don't recall >>noticing this when I saw it in the theater.

    I liked it when I saw it, but I was 7. Later I read the book and liked
    that better. (BTW, there's a sequel: Chitty is back, and she's a camper! [No, I didn't read it])

    The wikipedia synopsis sounds awful, but did lead me to a bit of trivia
    I don't remember knowing before: there were several actual race cars named "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang", which apparently were the inspiration for the
    book.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitty_Bang_Bang

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  • From bill bob@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Mon Aug 16 09:56:44 2021
    test
    On 13 Aug 2021 12:54 PM ,Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is 50 years old this year.
    Released on June 30, 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Wonka_%26_the_Chocolate_Factory

    I watched it again in the last year. Still a great fantasy.

    Lynn


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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to tednolan on Mon Aug 16 08:39:31 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 15 Aug 2021 16:31:15 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    <tednolan>) wrote:

    In article <rlfihg1d04een81fa105rj7865uik73dcl@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:19:11 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred >><leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish >>>> movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time) >>>> that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the >>>Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny,
    the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    I didn't enjoy "Fantasic Mr. Fox": I kept /hearing/ the Famous Actor,
    but never /seeing/ him. What can I say? Other than this is the only >>instance of that particular problem I can recall.

    I thought it was rather minor when I saw it: OK, but no big deal.


    "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" was a great film, even if the middle is a
    bit of a muddle. At least, the VHS/DVD versions were; I don't recall >>noticing this when I saw it in the theater.

    I liked it when I saw it, but I was 7. Later I read the book and liked
    that better. (BTW, there's a sequel: Chitty is back, and she's a camper! >[No, I didn't read it])

    Let me guess:

    Fleming didn't write it.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid on Mon Aug 16 17:48:11 2021
    XPost: rec.arts.sf.written

    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On 15 Aug 2021 16:31:15 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    <tednolan>) wrote:

    In article <rlfihg1d04een81fa105rj7865uik73dcl@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 17:19:11 -0500, Leif Roar Moldskred >>><leifm@huldreheim.Home> wrote:

    In rec.arts.sf.written Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:

    I forgot, the other well-known Roald Dahl book turned into a recent-ish >>>>> movie is "The BFG". For some reason (maybe it was too new at the time) >>>>> that story isn't included in my old box-set of Dalh books.

    I'd argue that "The Witches" is better known than both "James and the >>>>Giant Peach" and "The BFG". There are also movie adaptions of "Danny, >>>>the Champion of the World" and "Fantastic Mr. Fox." Dahl also wrote
    the script for the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang."

    I didn't enjoy "Fantasic Mr. Fox": I kept /hearing/ the Famous Actor,
    but never /seeing/ him. What can I say? Other than this is the only >>>instance of that particular problem I can recall.

    I thought it was rather minor when I saw it: OK, but no big deal.


    "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" was a great film, even if the middle is a
    bit of a muddle. At least, the VHS/DVD versions were; I don't recall >>>noticing this when I saw it in the theater.

    I liked it when I saw it, but I was 7. Later I read the book and liked >>that better. (BTW, there's a sequel: Chitty is back, and she's a camper! >>[No, I didn't read it])

    Let me guess:

    Fleming didn't write it.

    Considering Fleming had died...

    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was published posthumously.

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