• Cosmic Sin

    From T987654321@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 3 23:43:29 2021
    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat against the human race
    escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "


    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing that
    sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 17 20:04:08 2021
    On 6/4/2021 1:43 AM, T987654321 wrote:
    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat against the human race
    escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "


    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing
    that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

    I thought you were kidding about the movie name.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Sin

    Lynn

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Thu Jun 17 22:10:02 2021
    On 6/17/2021 6:04 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 6/4/2021 1:43 AM, T987654321 wrote:
    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing
    the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into
    service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile
    alien fleet. The threat against the human race escalates into an
    inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron
    Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent
    attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large,
    Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide
    Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "


    Yes you've seen this countless times before.  I guess the closest in
    tone would be Starship Troopers.  In general the future looks like
    today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo
    sapiens wearing a cheap mask.   The only thing that sort of saved it
    from total dreck is Bruce.

    I thought you were kidding about the movie name.
       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Sin

    I think the only explanation for how it got made is someone cashed in a
    TON of blackmail material.


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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to qwrtz123@gmail.com on Fri Jun 18 08:57:18 2021
    On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 23:43:29 -0700 (PDT), T987654321
    <qwrtz123@gmail.com> wrote:

    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat against the human race
    escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "


    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing that
    sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And the actual reviews were even worse, IIRC.

    And, no, Bruce didn't save it. Not even "sort of". According to the
    reviews, that is.
    --
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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Fri Jun 18 09:05:44 2021
    On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 22:10:02 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 6/17/2021 6:04 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 6/4/2021 1:43 AM, T987654321 wrote:
    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing
    the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into
    service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile
    alien fleet. The threat against the human race escalates into an
    inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron
    Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent
    attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large,
    Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide
    Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "


    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in
    tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like
    today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo
    sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing that sort of saved it
    from total dreck is Bruce.

    I thought you were kidding about the movie name.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_Sin

    I think the only explanation for how it got made is someone cashed in a
    TON of blackmail material.

    The /real/ question is:

    is this film so bad that, had I seen it with my fellow-soldiers in the
    70s, we would have concluded that it must have /escaped/, since no
    sane person would ever have released it?

    Note that we were seeing these films on post, so some of them were
    being run through the circuit to see how we reacted before inflicting
    them on the general public.

    Indeed, the DVD of /The Big Sleep/ (Bogie & Bacall version) comes with
    two sides: one has the original version, shown to the US troops in
    Europe, and the other has the recut version (recut to give Bacall more
    glamour shots) that was released to civilians. They actually had to
    re-film the ending because the original actress playing the missing
    wife was not available to help with inserting more Bacall into it, so
    using the Army as a test audience was a long-standing practice by the
    70s. (All info on the two versions is based on a "special feature" on
    the DVD.)
    --
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    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Wolffan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 18 17:20:59 2021
    On 2021 Jun 04, T987654321 wrote
    (in article<54765772-8d30-4943-879d-a4b9e61bf331n@googlegroups.com>):

    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "

    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

    I think that I’ve seen part of the trailer. Only part, I switched to something interesting. However, Bruce was out front with a Very Big Gun.
    He’s a _general_? Generals aren’t supposed to be out front with Very Big Guns. The last general I can think of who was out front with a Very Big Gun
    or close enough to it was the gentleman in Korea who got a Medal of Honor for killing a tank with a grenade... which begs the question of What the _Fuck_
    was William Fucking Insane Dean _doing_ close enough to an enemy tank to kill it with a grenade?! Worse, Bruce has a sword or a machete or something; the last general I can think of who actually used a sword in action was Colin Campbell, while assaulting Lucknow’s gates, with, ahem, a boy piper on the parapet playing “Cock o’ the North”, but then that ol’ boy _was_ the madman previously famous for the Thin Red Line. And, besides, he was a Scot.
    Us Gaels, we got a thing for sharp edges, we do. What’s Bruce’s excuse?

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 19 09:09:03 2021
    On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:20:59 -0400, Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
    wrote:

    On 2021 Jun 04, T987654321 wrote
    (in article<54765772-8d30-4943-879d-a4b9e61bf331n@googlegroups.com>):

    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the >> outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after >> soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat
    against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General
    Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race >> to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey
    Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke
    Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "

    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone
    would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens >> planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap >> mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

    I think that Ive seen part of the trailer. Only part, I switched to >something interesting. However, Bruce was out front with a Very Big Gun.
    Hes a _general_? Generals arent supposed to be out front with Very Big >Guns. The last general I can think of who was out front with a Very Big Gun >or close enough to it was the gentleman in Korea who got a Medal of Honor for >killing a tank with a grenade... which begs the question of What the _Fuck_ >was William Fucking Insane Dean _doing_ close enough to an enemy tank to kill >it with a grenade?! Worse, Bruce has a sword or a machete or something; the >last general I can think of who actually used a sword in action was Colin >Campbell, while assaulting Lucknows gates, with, ahem, a boy piper on the >parapet playing Cock o the North, but then that ol boy _was_ the
    madman previously famous for the Thin Red Line. And, besides, he was a Scot. >Us Gaels, we got a thing for sharp edges, we do. Whats Bruces excuse?

    Rank inflation.
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  • From Wolffan@21:1/5 to Paul S Person on Sat Jun 19 13:07:29 2021
    On 2021 Jun 19, Paul S Person wrote
    (in article<mk5scgh796vgabt9nqop02j6ndg1obiup5@4ax.com>):

    On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:20:59 -0400, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
    wrote:

    On 2021 Jun 04, T987654321 wrote
    (in article<54765772-8d30-4943-879d-a4b9e61bf331n@googlegroups.com>):

    " In the year 2524, four hundred years after humans started colonizing the
    outer planets, retired General James Ford is called back into service after
    soldiers on a remote planet are attacked by a hostile alien fleet. The threat
    against the human race escalates into an inevitable interstellar war. General
    Ford teams up with General Eron Ryle and a team of elite soldiers in a race
    to stop the imminent attack before it is too late.
    Cast Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis, Brandon Thomas Lee, Corey Large, Perrey Reeves, C.J. Perry, Lochlyn Munro, Costas Mandylor, Adelaide Kane, Luke Wilson, Johnny Messner, Trevor Gretzky
    Director Edward Drake "

    Yes you've seen this countless times before. I guess the closest in tone would be Starship Troopers. In general the future looks like today, aliens
    planets look just like earth, aliens look like homo sapiens wearing a cheap
    mask. The only thing that sort of saved it from total dreck is Bruce.

    I think that I’ve seen part of the trailer. Only part, I switched to something interesting. However, Bruce was out front with a Very Big Gun. He’s a _general_? Generals aren’t supposed to be out front with Very Big
    Guns. The last general I can think of who was out front with a Very Big Gun or close enough to it was the gentleman in Korea who got a Medal of Honor for
    killing a tank with a grenade... which begs the question of What the _Fuck_ was William Fucking Insane Dean _doing_ close enough to an enemy tank to kill
    it with a grenade?! Worse, Bruce has a sword or a machete or something; the last general I can think of who actually used a sword in action was Colin Campbell, while assaulting Lucknow’s gates, with, ahem, a boy piper on the
    parapet playing “Cock o’ the North”, but then that ol’ boy _was_ the
    madman previously famous for the Thin Red Line. And, besides, he was a Scot.
    Us Gaels, we got a thing for sharp edges, we do. What’s Bruce’s excuse?

    Rank inflation.

    That movie appears to be rank...

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 19 22:57:25 2021
    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

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  • From Joe Pfeiffer@21:1/5 to Neill Massello on Sun Jun 20 09:11:58 2021
    Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

    I don't think I've ever seen an IMDB rating that low before. Which
    raises (NOT BEGS) the question, what is the record lowest?

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Joe Pfeiffer on Sun Jun 20 09:12:44 2021
    On 6/20/2021 8:11 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
    Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> >> wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

    I don't think I've ever seen an IMDB rating that low before. Which
    raises (NOT BEGS) the question, what is the record lowest?

    I'm pretty sure I've seen lower IMDb ratings. But since the minimum is
    1 and human nature being such that at least ONE person somewhere will
    give anything a 10 combined with most people simply won't rate anything
    that bad at all its difficult to get any lower.

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu on Sun Jun 20 09:10:56 2021
    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 09:11:58 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
    <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

    Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> >> wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

    I don't think I've ever seen an IMDB rating that low before. Which
    raises (NOT BEGS) the question, what is the record lowest?

    I just checked /Cats/ on IMDb, and it managed 2.8.

    That's the lowest-rated film I ever intentionally rented, and I rented
    it mostly to see just how badly it had been messed up.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Sun Jun 20 12:27:25 2021
    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 09:12:44 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 6/20/2021 8:11 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
    Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid>
    wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

    I don't think I've ever seen an IMDB rating that low before. Which
    raises (NOT BEGS) the question, what is the record lowest?

    I'm pretty sure I've seen lower IMDb ratings. But since the minimum is
    1 and human nature being such that at least ONE person somewhere will
    give anything a 10 combined with most people simply won't rate anything
    that bad at all its difficult to get any lower.

    There's a chart. It doesn't seem to be maintained, but there _is_ a
    chart:
    <https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom>

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  • From Joe Pfeiffer@21:1/5 to Joe Pfeiffer on Sun Jun 20 10:17:40 2021
    Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> writes:

    Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> >> wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

    I don't think I've ever seen an IMDB rating that low before. Which
    raises (NOT BEGS) the question, what is the record lowest?

    (following up my own post, sorry)

    Got curious enough I went and looked; it turns out they've got a ranking
    at https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

    Lowest at 2.0 is a tie between "Disaster Movie" and "Superbabies: Baby
    Geniuses 2".

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to Joe Pfeiffer on Sun Jun 20 19:56:40 2021
    On 2021-06-20 at 10:17:40 MDT, "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

    Got curious enough I went and looked; it turns out they've got a ranking
    at https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

    Lowest at 2.0 is a tie between "Disaster Movie" and "Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2".

    The movies on this list that I've seen are:

    Battlefield Earth (2000)
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
    Hercules in New York (1970)

    Aside from the Pia Zadora flick, they had at lest some "bad movie" entertainment value.

    (I should add that those are the only ones that I *remember* seeing: the mind has its own defense mechanisms.)

    Anybody else?

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  • From J. Clarke@21:1/5 to nmassello@yahoo.com on Sun Jun 20 17:47:17 2021
    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 19:56:40 -0000 (UTC), Neill Massello
    <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2021-06-20 at 10:17:40 MDT, "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

    Got curious enough I went and looked; it turns out they've got a ranking
    at https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

    Lowest at 2.0 is a tie between "Disaster Movie" and "Superbabies: Baby
    Geniuses 2".

    The movies on this list that I've seen are:

    Battlefield Earth (2000)
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
    Hercules in New York (1970)

    Aside from the Pia Zadora flick, they had at lest some "bad movie" >entertainment value.

    (I should add that those are the only ones that I *remember* seeing: the mind >has its own defense mechanisms.)

    Anybody else?

    Battlefield Earth (Worse than the novel and the Novel was bad even for
    L.Ron Hubbard)
    Gigli (which for some reason I enjoyed--maybe it was that I was
    crushing on J Lo at the time)
    Cats (I wouldn't call it "bad", it's just that the stage musical is
    _so_ much better)
    Jaws the Revenge (in a theater--remember nothing about it)
    Rollerball (saw both of them--why I saw the second I have no idea)
    Steel (Don't remember anything about it)
    Catwoman (How did they manage to make Halle Berry _not_ look good in a
    cat suit?)
    Barb Wire (What can I say--it has Pamela Anderson's boobs in it)
    Jaws 3-D (Remember the 3-d jaws at the end and not much else)
    Batman & Robin (Remember nothing about it)
    The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl (I think you have to be of a
    certain mental age)
    The Wicker Man (Remember nothing about it)
    Superman IV (Remember nothing about it)
    _A_ "The Fog"--I don't remember if it was that one.
    The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas (Didn't have Liz)
    The Avengers (Uma's no Emma)
    Swept Away (Madonna's no Mariangela Melato and Adriano Giannini is not
    his dad.)




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  • From Wolffan@21:1/5 to Neill Massello on Sun Jun 20 18:51:59 2021
    On 2021 Jun 20, Neill Massello wrote
    (in article <sao6hn$nk9$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 2021-06-20 at 10:17:40 MDT, "Joe Pfeiffer"<pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

    Got curious enough I went and looked; it turns out they've got a ranking
    at https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

    Lowest at 2.0 is a tie between "Disaster Movie" and "Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2".

    The movies on this list that I've seen are:

    Battlefield Earth (2000)
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
    Hercules in New York (1970)

    Aside from the Pia Zadora flick, they had at lest some "bad movie" entertainment value.

    (I should add that those are the only ones that I *remember* seeing: the mind has its own defense mechanisms.)

    Anybody else?

    Hmm.
    Batman and Robin.
    The Avengers.
    Superman IV.
    BloodRayne (just the first half hour, that was more than enough).
    Catwoman.

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  • From Bice@21:1/5 to nmassello@yahoo.com on Mon Jun 21 11:49:51 2021
    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 19:56:40 -0000 (UTC), Neill Massello
    <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2021-06-20 at 10:17:40 MDT, "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:

    Got curious enough I went and looked; it turns out they've got a ranking
    at https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

    The movies on this list that I've seen are:

    Battlefield Earth (2000)
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
    Hercules in New York (1970)

    Aside from the Pia Zadora flick, they had at lest some "bad movie" >entertainment value.

    Anybody else?

    I've managed to avoid seeing most of the list, although I've seen
    "Santa Clause Conquers the Martians" and "Manos: The Hands of Fate",
    both via Mystery Science Theater (so at least I had the cast of MST3K
    helping shield me from the full effect of how bad the movies were).

    I remember when the majority of that Bottom 100 list was made up of
    MST3K movies. Good to see Hollywood has pumped out plenty of garbage
    since then. Also nice to see "Manos" still in the top 5. Man, is
    that movie bad.

    -- Bob

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to jclarke.873638@gmail.com on Mon Jun 21 09:23:16 2021
    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:27:25 -0400, J. Clarke
    <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 09:12:44 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 6/20/2021 8:11 AM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
    Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> writes:

    On 2021-06-18 at 09:57:18 MDT, "Paul S Person" <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid>
    wrote:

    I doubt it. I don't make a habit of watching films that get an RT
    rating of 3%.

    And an IMDb rating of 2.5. Absolute Razzie bait.

    I don't think I've ever seen an IMDB rating that low before. Which
    raises (NOT BEGS) the question, what is the record lowest?

    I'm pretty sure I've seen lower IMDb ratings. But since the minimum is
    1 and human nature being such that at least ONE person somewhere will
    give anything a 10 combined with most people simply won't rate anything >>that bad at all its difficult to get any lower.

    There's a chart. It doesn't seem to be maintained, but there _is_ a
    chart:
    <https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom>

    Many of which I never heard of.

    Several of which I remember deciding /not/ to watch.

    A few I saw.

    And, in the case of /The Starving Games/, enjoyed.

    But it does show that 2.0 is the lowest rating known to me so far.
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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to jclarke.873638@gmail.com on Mon Jun 21 09:35:05 2021
    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:47:17 -0400, J. Clarke
    <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 19:56:40 -0000 (UTC), Neill Massello ><nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 2021-06-20 at 10:17:40 MDT, "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >>
    Got curious enough I went and looked; it turns out they've got a ranking >>> at https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

    Lowest at 2.0 is a tie between "Disaster Movie" and "Superbabies: Baby
    Geniuses 2".

    The movies on this list that I've seen are:

    Battlefield Earth (2000)
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
    Hercules in New York (1970)

    Aside from the Pia Zadora flick, they had at lest some "bad movie" >>entertainment value.

    (I should add that those are the only ones that I *remember* seeing: the mind >>has its own defense mechanisms.)

    Anybody else?

    You stir my memory ...

    Battlefield Earth (Worse than the novel and the Novel was bad even for
    L.Ron Hubbard)
    Gigli (which for some reason I enjoyed--maybe it was that I was
    crushing on J Lo at the time)
    Cats (I wouldn't call it "bad", it's just that the stage musical is
    _so_ much better)

    I would. But I /really/ liked the VHS version, and this makes the DVD
    version look good.

    Jaws the Revenge (in a theater--remember nothing about it)
    Rollerball (saw both of them--why I saw the second I have no idea)

    I saw the second just to see how bad it was.

    Too bad the people making it had /no idea at all/ what the original
    was about.

    Steel (Don't remember anything about it)
    Catwoman (How did they manage to make Halle Berry _not_ look good in a
    cat suit?)

    I remember deciding /not/ to see it.

    Barb Wire (What can I say--it has Pamela Anderson's boobs in it)
    Jaws 3-D (Remember the 3-d jaws at the end and not much else)
    Batman & Robin (Remember nothing about it)

    It was ... OK. I always thought Robin was too old, though.

    But, really, in what other movie do you get to see a character played
    by Arnold Schwarzenegger /cry/?

    The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl (I think you have to be of a
    certain mental age)
    The Wicker Man (Remember nothing about it)

    This was the remake. I remember deciding not to see it.

    I found the original all too terrifying, and wanted nothing more to do
    with it.

    Superman IV (Remember nothing about it)

    Despite being a Golan & Globus production, this was actually a step up
    from III. I mean, where else do you get to see the creation of a
    supervillain? Where else do you get to see a defeated Superman sobbing
    himself to sleep, hugging the Green Shard?

    _A_ "The Fog"--I don't remember if it was that one.
    The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas (Didn't have Liz)
    The Avengers (Uma's no Emma)

    Indeed. And I never really enjoyed "Mother", so seeing "Father" didn't
    help at all.

    Swept Away (Madonna's no Mariangela Melato and Adriano Giannini is not
    his dad.)



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    "I have envied him long since."

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