• H.G. Wells movie review series: 1996 Island of Dr. Moreau

    From Don@21:1/5 to David Brown on Wed Apr 7 02:38:06 2021
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    David Brown <davidnbrown80@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm doing something new with movie reviews on my blog, covering movies based o
    n HG Wells. My first entry is the most notorious, I think very underrated. I als
    o tried to cover its relationship with the book and earlier movies.
    https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/04/space-1979-wells-thon-one-that-everyone.html

    Arcane art appeals to me. For instance, Pendragon Pictures' product:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells%27_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(Pendragon_Pictures_film)

    took precedence over Cruise's vehicle and Asylum's mockbuster back in
    2005. (Both of the latter two picture products remain unviewed by me to
    this day.)
    Although it's interesting to watch a movie with a Wells character:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

    it's more interesting for me to watch a Wellsian short story series with
    Wells appearing as a character in his own story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infinite_Worlds_of_H._G._Wells

    Danke,

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  • From Jack Bohn@21:1/5 to Don on Wed Apr 7 07:28:32 2021
    Don wrote:

    https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/04/space-1979-wells-thon-one-that-everyone.html

    Arcane art appeals to me. For instance, Pendragon Pictures' product:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells%27_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(Pendragon_Pictures_film)

    took precedence over Cruise's vehicle and Asylum's mockbuster back in
    2005. (Both of the latter two picture products remain unviewed by me to
    this day.)

    I caught the Cruise movie on TV, being interrupted by commercials sheared some pretentiousness off of it, and it was more modestly enjoyable.

    Although it's interesting to watch a movie with a Wells character:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

    it's more interesting for me to watch a Wellsian short story series with Wells appearing as a character in his own story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infinite_Worlds_of_H._G._Wells

    Wow! It's just about a year ago that I watched my copy of "Infinite Worlds." (you can guess why I had the time)
    I remember finding the Wells-as-character parts unstructured, and being disappointed in the Wells adaptations. But maybe I'll have time to rewatch it next week if you post a review.


    Interesting point you bring up about few recent adaptations of Wells. I could point to last years "The Invisible Man" but you could point back that it takes less from the novel than any recent Bond takes from Fleming's. I suppose any science fiction
    story has a lifespan bounded by its predictions. "The First Men IN the Moon" (1964), like "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" (1954) before it, had to move from present or near-future into Hidden History. "Things to Come" would need to be overhauled (like _
    War of the Worlds_ has been) to our current ability to respond to its events. I don't know what can be done with _War in the Air_, which, significantly, has no film adaptations.

    I suppose _The Time Machine_ and _The Invisible Man_, being essentially impossible, will never be caught up with. I guess for most of the other works, you are basically buying a recognized name, and maybe a bit of insurance against plagiarism lawsuits.
    (much the case with Verne's _Journey to the Center of the Earth_. Essentially impossible, and many adaptations of that title are really more Burrough's Pellucidar.)

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to Don on Wed Apr 7 09:29:15 2021
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    On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 02:38:06 -0000 (UTC), Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:

    David Brown <davidnbrown80@gmail.com> wrote:
    I'm doing something new with movie reviews on my blog, covering movies based o
    n HG Wells. My first entry is the most notorious, I think very underrated. I als
    o tried to cover its relationship with the book and earlier movies.
    https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/04/space-1979-wells-thon-one-that-everyone.html

    Arcane art appeals to me. For instance, Pendragon Pictures' product:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells%27_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(Pendragon_Pictures_film)

    took precedence over Cruise's vehicle and Asylum's mockbuster back in
    2005. (Both of the latter two picture products remain unviewed by me to
    this day.)

    That would, I think, be this one: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425638/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_6
    at 3 hours and a 3.0 rating (1002 votes) ... I think I'll pass.

    But "Classic War of the Worlds", slimmed down to 2hr 5min, is
    available for rental here: https://www.amazon.com/Classic-War-Worlds-Anthony-Piana/dp/B003BZTQL0/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DRGPNLSXNIF8&dchild=1&keywords=classic+war+of+the+worlds&qid=1617812371&s=instant-video&sprefix=Classic+War+of+the+Worlds%2Cinstant-video%2C722&sr=1-1
    so I added it to my list, and may rent it eventually.

    Amazon has it at 4 out of 5. Of course, about 99% of Amazon rentals
    have the same rating, no matter how many negative reviews there are,
    but the /real/ stinkers tend to get 3.5 or 3 or worse, so 4 is sort-of reassuring.

    Despite the notes on IMDb that the "England" shown was clearly located
    in the USA. Infrastructure, guys, infrastructure!

    I actually /like/ the Cruise version, BTW. It captures the feel of the
    book (wandering about as civilization collapses) quite well. And
    includes many details of the story.

    Although it's interesting to watch a movie with a Wells character:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

    it's more interesting for me to watch a Wellsian short story series with >Wells appearing as a character in his own story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infinite_Worlds_of_H._G._Wells

    Danke,

    As to the subject line: I rented the 1996 /Island of Dr Moreau/ and
    found it ... acceptable. Not as good as /The Island of Lost Souls/ but
    ... acceptable.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Paul S Person@21:1/5 to jack.bohn64@gmail.com on Wed Apr 7 09:38:14 2021
    On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 07:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Jack Bohn
    <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:

    Don wrote:

    https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/04/space-1979-wells-thon-one-that-everyone.html

    Arcane art appeals to me. For instance, Pendragon Pictures' product:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._G._Wells%27_The_War_of_the_Worlds_(Pendragon_Pictures_film)

    took precedence over Cruise's vehicle and Asylum's mockbuster back in
    2005. (Both of the latter two picture products remain unviewed by me to
    this day.)

    I caught the Cruise movie on TV, being interrupted by commercials sheared some pretentiousness off of it, and it was more modestly enjoyable.

    I just plain enjoy it every time I see it.

    Although it's interesting to watch a movie with a Wells character:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

    it's more interesting for me to watch a Wellsian short story series with
    Wells appearing as a character in his own story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infinite_Worlds_of_H._G._Wells

    Wow! It's just about a year ago that I watched my copy of "Infinite Worlds." (you can guess why I had the time)
    I remember finding the Wells-as-character parts unstructured, and being disappointed in the Wells adaptations. But maybe I'll have time to rewatch it next week if you post a review.


    Interesting point you bring up about few recent adaptations of Wells. I could point to last years "The Invisible Man" but you could point back that it takes less from the novel than any recent Bond takes from Fleming's. I suppose any science fiction
    story has a lifespan bounded by its predictions. "The First Men IN the Moon" (1964), like "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" (1954) before it, had to move from present or near-future into Hidden History. "Things to Come" would need to be overhauled (like _
    War of the Worlds_ has been) to our current ability to respond to its events. I don't know what can be done with _War in the Air_, which, significantly, has no film adaptations.

    Last year's /Invisible Man/ was so far off the mark I don't even
    regard it as related to Wells. I regard it as yet another version of
    /Sleeping with the Enemy/ (and countless others, no doubt) where the
    evil husband (and he /is/ evil in these films, BTW) has made himself a
    special suit. Like one of the Marvel "heroes", only different.

    I suppose _The Time Machine_ and _The Invisible Man_, being essentially impossible, will never be caught up with. I guess for most of the other works, you are basically buying a recognized name, and maybe a bit of insurance against plagiarism lawsuits.
    (much the case with Verne's _Journey to the Center of the Earth_. Essentially impossible, and many adaptations of that title are really more Burrough's Pellucidar.)

    /The Invisible Man/ has had at least two good film adaptations (yes, I
    liked /The Hollow Man/). /The Time Machine/ has not had one yet. I
    think the problem is that the latter is much much harder to insert a love-interest into. Not that it prevented the filmmakers from trying.
    --
    "I begin to envy Petronius."
    "I have envied him long since."

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  • From Don@21:1/5 to Jack Bohn on Wed Apr 7 16:42:53 2021
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    Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
    Don wrote:

    https://trendytroodon.blogspot.com/2021/04/space-1979-wells-thon-one-that-everyone.html

    Arcane art appeals to me.

    Just the other day I stumbled across a movie from Wells's book _The Passionate Friends_:
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041735/
    Made in 1949 from a 1913 novel; I wonder if there was any debate about whether to set it in the present or leave it in the past, as an early
    example of steamrom. (Unfortunately, synchronicity had me watching the Hollywood movie "H.M. Pulham, Esq."(1941 and from a novel from the
    previous year) along the same lines and which will probably be linked
    with it forevermore.) Has anyone looked at Wells's other novels from
    the viewpoint of a science fiction reader with the thesis that they
    were written from the viewpoint of a science fiction author?

    Although it's interesting to watch a movie with a Wells character:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_(1979_film)

    it's more interesting for me to watch a Wellsian short story series with
    Wells appearing as a character in his own story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infinite_Worlds_of_H._G._Wells

    Wow! It was just about a year ago that I watched my copy of "Infinite Worlds."
    (you can guess why I had the time)
    My memory is that I thought the Wells-as-character parts a bit unstructured, and was also somewhat disappointed by the Wells adaptations. I may have
    time next week to watch it again.

    A last comment on the sf.written front: while I can't recommend the movies "Empire of the Ants" or "Kingdom of the Spiders" as adaptations of their short stories, they did lead me to seek out those stories, and "Kingdom"
    in particular is very haunting.

    As an aside, "Kingdom of the Spiders" may prove promising enough for me
    to see Shat's sublime sideshow. (Sometimes Shat seasons his characters
    (either deliberately or otherwise) with layered elocution. It's sort of
    a puzzle; an artistic accent, an enigma. Is he simply acting? Or is he
    acting as though he's acting? How deep is this rabbit hole?)

    The previously unread (by me) "Valley of the Spiders" (Wells) is
    available at: http://www.online-literature.com/wellshg/21/

    Danke,

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