• PPB: Ritual Memory / Will Dockery

    From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 20 11:21:08 2021
    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 20 11:22:33 2021
    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Sat Nov 20 23:40:53 2021
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html

    Thanks, George, good selection.

    🙂

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to will.d...@gmail.com on Sun Nov 21 01:30:13 2021
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.

    🙂

    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.

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  • From General Zod@21:1/5 to will.d...@gmail.com on Sun Nov 21 14:46:32 2021
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.

    🙂

    Agreed and seconded....

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Thu Nov 25 08:35:06 2021
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:30:14 AM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.


    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.

    I'll take a look, how did you do it in the book?

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to opb...@yahoo.com on Sat Nov 27 17:06:29 2021
    On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:30:14 AM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.


    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.

    I'll take a look, how did you do it in the book?

    The first line of that stanza is on one page, and the last 3 lines on the next page.

    (Now that I look at it, it's another poem we could have compressed into one page by cutting line breaks; but I had nothing to add there, so I wasn't looking at it that way at the time.)

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  • From General Zod@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Sun Nov 28 14:46:57 2021
    On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 8:06:31 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:30:14 AM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.


    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.

    I'll take a look, how did you do it in the book?
    The first line of that stanza is on one page, and the last 3 lines on the next page.

    (Now that I look at it, it's another poem we could have compressed into one page by cutting line breaks; but I had nothing to add there, so I wasn't looking at it that way at the time.)

    Cool...

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  • From Terry Stomp@21:1/5 to opb...@yahoo.com on Mon Nov 29 14:51:06 2021
    On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:30:14 AM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.


    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.
    I'll take a look, how did you do it in the book?

    Enjoying the new printing THNX....

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Tue Nov 30 03:32:59 2021
    On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 8:06:31 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:30:14 AM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.


    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.

    I'll take a look, how did you do it in the book?
    The first line of that stanza is on one page, and the last 3 lines on the next page.

    (Now that I look at it, it's another poem we could have compressed into one page by cutting line breaks; but I had nothing to add there, so I wasn't looking at it that way at the time.)

    I wish we'd caught it a few weeks ago, but so it goes.

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to tst...@gmail.com on Sun Dec 19 10:42:12 2021
    On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:51:07 PM UTC-5, tst...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 11:35:07 AM UTC-5, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 4:30:14 AM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 2:40:55 AM UTC-5, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    Thanks, George, good selection.


    It fit well with the theme that emerged for this month: change again (that theme's gone right through this autumn's posts), but this month it's change + loss. And of course there was "rain in November".

    I'm not sure about the formatting of the last part: would it look better if I rebroke it as 2-line stanzas to match the rest? That would mean putting the stanza break after "honest poem", which didn't read right. It now doesn't look right, but it
    reinforces the idea of not editing; so it's a tradeoff, and your decision.
    I'll take a look, how did you do it in the book?
    Enjoying the new printing THNX....

    Glad you like it, Zod.

    🙂

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Sun Dec 19 13:06:46 2021
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
    Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery

    If these words of love
    fell into bad timing

    put them away
    like a flower in a book.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html

    George, Pamela said that the poem reminds her of John Donne.

    https://poets.org/poem/valediction-forbidding-mourning

    Any thoughts on this?

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  • From Terry Stomp@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 19 14:30:02 2021
    On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 4:00:58 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 2:20:32 PM UTC-5, George J. Dance wrote:

    Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: Ritual Memory, by Will Dockery If these words of love fell into bad timing put them away like a flower in a book. [...] https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/11/ritual-memory-will-dockery.html
    George, my friend Pamela said that the poem reminds her of John Donne. https://poets.org/poem/valediction-forbidding-mourning Any thoughts on this?

    Quite interesting, worth of a stand alone at that:

    A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning

    As virtuous men pass mildly away,
    And whisper to their souls to go,
    Whilst some of their sad friends do say,
    "The breath goes now," and some say, "No,"

    So let us melt, and make no noise,
    No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move;
    'Twere profanation of our joys
    To tell the laity our love.

    Moving of the earth brings harms and fears,
    Men reckon what it did and meant;
    But trepidation of the spheres,
    Though greater far, is innocent.

    Dull sublunary lovers' love
    (Whose soul is sense) cannot admit
    Absence, because it doth remove
    Those things which elemented it.

    But we, by a love so much refined
    That our selves know not what it is,
    Inter-assured of the mind,
    Care less, eyes, lips, and hands to miss.

    Our two souls therefore, which are one,
    Though I must go, endure not yet
    A breach, but an expansion.
    Like gold to airy thinness beat.

    If they be two, they are two so
    As stiff twin compasses are two:
    Thy soul, the fixed foot, makes no show
    To move, but doth, if the other do;

    And though it in the center sit,
    Yet when the other far doth roam,
    It leans, and hearkens after it,
    And grows erect, as that comes home.

    Such wilt thou be to me, who must,
    Like the other foot, obliquely run;
    Thy firmness makes my circle just,
    And makes me end where I begun.

    --John Donne

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