• H.D. poetry

    From Terry Stomp@21:1/5 to Will Dockery on Wed Jul 7 15:01:41 2021
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the
    generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to Terry Stomp on Sat Aug 21 20:59:44 2021
    On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...

    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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  • From Terry Stomp@21:1/5 to will.d...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 31 13:35:58 2021
    On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
    as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
    poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
    and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
    others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...
    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Indeed.... so sorry....

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to tst...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 31 17:18:44 2021
    On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 4:35:59 PM UTC-4, tst...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, will.d...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
    have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
    as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
    group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
    poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
    and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
    others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...
    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Indeed.... so sorry....

    Don't be. H.D.'s first name was Hilda.

    "Hilary" isn't even a woman's name.

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  • From George J. Dance@21:1/5 to fake "Will Dokery" on Tue Aug 31 17:15:53 2021
    On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, fake "Will Dokery" wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
    as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
    poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
    and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
    others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...

    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda

    Wrong.

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  • From Paul Vicious@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Wed Sep 1 15:02:01 2021
    On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, fake "Will Dokery" wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
    have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
    as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
    group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
    poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
    and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
    others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...

    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda
    Wrong.

    Wow, Doc got it backwards....!

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  • From Will Dockery@21:1/5 to George J. Dance on Thu Sep 2 19:50:57 2021
    On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
    On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 11:59:46 PM UTC-4, fake "Will Dokery" wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Terry Stomp wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 9:29:48 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
    On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 12:07:34 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
    have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
    as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
    group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
    poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
    and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
    others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...

    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda
    Wrong.

    Sorry, I don't know how I got the names turned around.

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  • From Paul Vicious@21:1/5 to opb...@yahoo.com on Fri Sep 3 11:58:17 2021
    On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 10:50:58 PM UTC-4, opb...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:15:54 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:

    Heat, by H.D.

    O wind, rend open the heat,
    cut apart the heat,
    rend it to tatters.
    [...]

    https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2018/08/heat-hd.html
    Hilda Doolittle, nice find, one of the original American avant-garde:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/UgluDPA17qs/8qwh1beTCQAJ

    Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History of Modern
    Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven Watson seems to
    have gotten most of his information) about the movement that took off around
    1910 (and not before in any major way, although the form can be traced back
    as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".

    Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous poets of this
    group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute Rhythm/, that is [...]
    poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion being expressed..."

    The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new poets, the
    writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers librists, because
    they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced fixed stanzas, meter
    and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound called it.

    In addition, there were other distinctive factions during 1910-1917 and
    beyond...

    The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay, Harry Kemp and
    others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt, the Free-Versers.

    Poets loosely associated with these groups included:

    Richard Aldington
    Amy Lowell
    Vacel Lindsay
    Harry Kemp
    Donald Evans
    Allen Norton
    Louise Norton
    H.D. aka Hilda Doolittle
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mina Loy
    William Carlos Williams
    Alfred Kreymborg
    Ezra Pound

    In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis wrote:

    "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."

    Right on...

    Hilary Doolittle, not Hilda
    Wrong.
    Sorry, I don't know how I got the names turned around.

    No problem Doc we all have senior moments in out old age...

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