• Lester Dent and the Master Fiction Plot

    From D B Davis@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 30 16:36:28 2019
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    A recent rec.arts.sf.written post made me curious about Doc Savage.
    Lester Dent reportedly wrote formulaic stories.
    The promise of a guaranteed successful story motivated a lifelong,
    low level, quest within me to discover the exact nature of this storied, almighty formula.
    At first it was ?erroneously? presumed that one universal formula
    ruled them all, in this case "them" being successful formulaic authors.
    Lately it seems that the formula varies by author. Here's an excerpt of
    Lester Dent's formula. (Follow the link for the unabridged version.)

    This is a formula, a master plot, for any 6,000 word pulp
    story. It has worked on adventure, detective, western and
    war-air. It tells exactly where to put everything. It
    shows definitely just what must happen in each successive
    thousand words.

    No yarn of mine written to the formula has yet failed to sell.

    The business of building stories seems not much different from
    the business of building anything else.

    (excerpt)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160121204339/https://www.altuspress.com/lester-dent-and-the-master-fiction-plot/

    https://www.altuspress.com/lester-dent-and-the-master-fiction-plot/



    Thank you,

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to g@crcomp.net on Tue Jul 30 18:01:21 2019
    In article <20190730ba@crcomp.net>, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
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    A recent rec.arts.sf.written post made me curious about Doc Savage.
    Lester Dent reportedly wrote formulaic stories.
    The promise of a guaranteed successful story motivated a lifelong,
    low level, quest within me to discover the exact nature of this storied, >almighty formula.
    At first it was ?erroneously? presumed that one universal formula
    ruled them all, in this case "them" being successful formulaic authors. >Lately it seems that the formula varies by author. Here's an excerpt of >Lester Dent's formula. (Follow the link for the unabridged version.)

    This is a formula, a master plot, for any 6,000 word pulp
    story. It has worked on adventure, detective, western and
    war-air. It tells exactly where to put everything. It
    shows definitely just what must happen in each successive
    thousand words.

    No yarn of mine written to the formula has yet failed to sell.

    The business of building stories seems not much different from
    the business of building anything else.

    (excerpt)


    https://web.archive.org/web/20160121204339/https://www.altuspress.com/lester-dent-and-the-master-fiction-plot/

    https://www.altuspress.com/lester-dent-and-the-master-fiction-plot/

    Thanks; I shall read this when I get over seething over all my
    copies of Graydon's novels having disappeared.

    --
    Dorothy J. Heydt
    Vallejo, California
    djheydt at gmail dot com
    www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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  • From Barry Rixland@21:1/5 to D B Davis on Sun Dec 8 22:05:46 2019
    D B Davis wrote:
    Archived link prepended.

    A recent rec.arts.sf.written post made me curious about Doc Savage.
    Lester Dent reportedly wrote formulaic stories.
    The promise of a guaranteed successful story motivated a lifelong,
    low level, quest within me to discover the exact nature of this storied, almighty formula.
    At first it was ?erroneously? presumed that one universal formula
    ruled them all, in this case "them" being successful formulaic authors. Lately it seems that the formula varies by author. Here's an excerpt of Lester Dent's formula. (Follow the link for the unabridged version.)

    This is a formula, a master plot, for any 6,000 word pulp
    story. It has worked on adventure, detective, western and
    war-air. It tells exactly where to put everything. It
    shows definitely just what must happen in each successive
    thousand words.

    No yarn of mine written to the formula has yet failed to sell.

    The business of building stories seems not much different from
    the business of building anything else.

    (excerpt)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20160121204339/https://www.altuspress.com/lester-dent-and-the-master-fiction-plot/

    https://www.altuspress.com/lester-dent-and-the-master-fiction-plot/



    Thank you,

    Michael Moorcock is also someone who had a formulaic system for
    a time. It was back when he was a struggling writer and needed
    to pump out a lot of books to make rent. After his career took
    off, he abandoned the system and started using more
    sophisticated story structures.

    Here's a link: https://thepulparchvist.blogspot.com/2016/11/michael-moorcocks-three-day-novel.html

    and a link to some more story structures for formula writing: https://othernetwork.com/2014/11/16/6-formulas-for-formula-fiction-by-jim-denney-via-michael-moorcock/

    Perhaps it's a statement that formulaic writing does so well
    in the marketplace. Everyone wants to make something
    groundbreaking, but it is often pragmatic to go with the
    tried-and-true

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