https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic- night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re- enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
On 1/17/21 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when
Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard
Ramirez, who
stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
The Hannibal series on NBC (network TV!) was far more grisly than that!
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a585328/hannibal-the-5-most-grisly-scenes-to-date/
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/hannibal/the-13-most-gruesome-hannibal-season-two-moments/#15-‘stag-man-sex
This one scene still amazes me it made it onto network tv.
https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HannibalSmileWithWill.jpg?type=vertical
On 1/17/2021 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix >> announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
...or, say, a 1969 classic.
In article <p8YMH.11951$4d1.8871@fx47.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
On 1/17/2021 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic- >>>> night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix >>>> announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >>>> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the >>>> NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
...or, say, a 1969 classic.
Someone should sit these powderpuffs down in front of SAW or HOSTEL and
watch them shit themselves.
On 1/17/21 7:40 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic- >>>> night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when
Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard
Ramirez, who
stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the >>>> NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
The Hannibal series on NBC (network TV!) was far more grisly than that!
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a585328/hannibal-the-5-most-grisly-scenes-to-date/
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/hannibal/the-13-most-gruesome-hannibal-season-two-moments/#15-‘stag-man-sex
This one scene still amazes me it made it onto network tv.
https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HannibalSmileWithWill.jpg?type=vertical
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was the
totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things all that
freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
On 2021-01-17 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic-
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix >>> announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >>> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
You are what you eat, and you become what you watch.
A few years ago I binge watched the first season or two of Dexter over a period of maybe 10 days. I found myself empathizing with the serial
killer and felt sick to my stomach, so much so, I turned it off and
vowed to watch no more.
Same with The Waking Dead. I could tolerate zombies being butchered but
when the human blood letting began at a pig trough in season 3 (? I
forget) that was enough for me. I am glad I didn't stay around to watch Glenn's head bashing, snuff film
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix >>> announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who >>> stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even
seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a
body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
You are what you eat, and you become what you watch.
A few years ago I binge watched the first season or two of Dexter over a >period of maybe 10 days. I found myself empathizing with the serial
killer and felt sick to my stomach, so much so, I turned it off and
vowed to watch no more.
Same with The Waking Dead. I could tolerate zombies being butchered but
when the human blood letting began at a pig trough in season 3 (? I
forget) that was enough for me. I am glad I didn't stay around to watch >Glenn's head bashing, snuff film, although I heard about it.
Sometimes I wonder why there is such cruelty in the world, and then I am >reminded how TV stunts the natural impulse to empathize.
End of grandpa mime's pissin' rant.
We return you now to your regularly scheduled programming.
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:40 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic- >>>>> night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when
Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard
Ramirez, who
stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the >>>>> NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even >>>>> seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a >>>>> body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
The Hannibal series on NBC (network TV!) was far more grisly than that!
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a585328/hannibal-the-5-most-grisly-scenes-to-date/
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/hannibal/the-13-most-gruesome-hannibal-season-two-moments/#15-‘stag-man-sex
This one scene still amazes me it made it onto network tv.
https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HannibalSmileWithWill.jpg?type=vertical
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was the
totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things all that
freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but they got
3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
On Jan 17, 2021 at 9:23:26 PM PST, "thinbluemime2" <thinbluemime2@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2021-01-17 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic- >>>> night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard Ramirez, who
stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in the >>>> NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even >>>> seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were
nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re-
enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a >>>> body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
You are what you eat, and you become what you watch.
A few years ago I binge watched the first season or two of Dexter over a
period of maybe 10 days. I found myself empathizing with the serial
killer and felt sick to my stomach, so much so, I turned it off and
vowed to watch no more.
Same with The Waking Dead. I could tolerate zombies being butchered but
when the human blood letting began at a pig trough in season 3 (? I
forget) that was enough for me. I am glad I didn't stay around to watch
Glenn's head bashing, snuff film
It wasn't a snuff film. The actor wasn't actually killed. It was only a piece of jelly-filled rubber that got bashed up.
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:40 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 3:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lnsACB378BC36B456F089P2473@202.81.252.44>,
"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov> wrote:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/14/critics-netflix-went-too-far-in-graphic- >>>>>>
night-stalker-series/
This one gave viewers "Night" terrors.
Audiences were undoubtedly anticipating some on-screen blood when
Netflix
announced it was making a docuseries on serial killer Richard
Ramirez, who
stalked Los Angeles in the 1980s. However, the content depicted in >>>>>> the
NIGHT STALKER: THE HUNT FOR A SERIAL KILLER was so graphic that even >>>>>> seasoned true-crime fans had to shut it off.
Despite its disturbing subject matter, social-media watchdogs were >>>>>> nonetheless shocked at the grisly crime scene photos and bloody re- >>>>>> enactments that included a close-up shot of a knife sticking out of a >>>>>> body, and blood falling in slow motion.
Blood falling in slow motion is a bridge too far? Really?
Someone hasn't been watching very many horror movies.
The Hannibal series on NBC (network TV!) was far more grisly than that! >>>>
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a585328/hannibal-the-5-most-grisly-scenes-to-date/
https://www.pastemagazine.com/tv/hannibal/the-13-most-gruesome-hannibal-season-two-moments/#15-‘stag-man-sex
This one scene still amazes me it made it onto network tv.
https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/HannibalSmileWithWill.jpg?type=vertical
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was the
totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things all
that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but they
got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the Boston
Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me lose
interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was the
totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things all
that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but they
got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call it 'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with your
dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much you'd like
to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't really
call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it ain't through
their mouths.
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was
the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things
all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but they
got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I left
it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel "Hannibal" when
the movie came out and Thomas Harris original concept of the character
was way more interesting than Bryan Fuller's "tweaking of it." He's not
JJ Abrams awful, of course, in fact I wouldn't call him awful at all,
just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call it
'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with your
dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much you'd
like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't really
call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are smiling...
they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it ain't through
their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers (Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something special, because Will, thanks to hisempathy disorder has essentially unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in any way other than pantomime.He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers (Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something
special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially
unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly
every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series.
Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable >>> of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we
define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in >>> any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has >>> the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand >>> other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually
feel it.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something
special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially
unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about >>> how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is
capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings
of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship,
he has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd
understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced
from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I've ever dated was a psychopath?
In article
<808204454.632789459.983401.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>>>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something >>>>> special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially >>>>> unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>>>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about >>>>> how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is
capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings >>>>> of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship,
he has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd
understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced
from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I >>>> think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually >>> feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I've ever dated was a psychopath?
Almost certainly.
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something
special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially
unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable
of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we >>>> define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in >>>> any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has >>>> the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand
other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually
feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I’ve ever dated was a psychopath?
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something
special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially
unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable
of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we >>>> define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in >>>> any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has >>>> the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand
other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually
feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I’ve ever dated was a psychopath?
On 1/19/2021 2:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:I thought you had said that.
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>>>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something >>>>> special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially >>>>> unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>>>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable
of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we >>>>> define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in >>>>> any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has
the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand
other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>>>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I >>>> think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually >>> feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I’ve ever dated was a psychopath?
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>>>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something >>>>> special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially >>>>> unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>>>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable
of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we >>>>> define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in >>>>> any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has
the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand
other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>>>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I >>>> think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually >>> feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I’ve ever dated was a psychopath?
Let's note that you crossposted to a horror group.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 1/19/2021 2:58 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:I thought you had said that.
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing
them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something >>>>>> special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially >>>>>> unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the
ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable
of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we >>>>>> define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in
any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has
the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand
other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>>>>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I >>>>> think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually >>>> feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I’ve ever dated was a psychopath?
I didn’t say it, mostly because it goes without saying
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was
the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things
all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but they
got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I left
it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel "Hannibal" when
the movie came out and Thomas Harris original concept of the character
was way more interesting than Bryan Fuller's "tweaking of it." He's not
JJ Abrams awful, of course, in fact I wouldn't call him awful at all,
just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call it
'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with your
dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much you'd
like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't really
call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are smiling...
they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it ain't through
their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
On 1/19/21 8:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was
the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things
all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but
they got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I
left it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel "Hannibal"
when the movie came out and Thomas Harris original concept of the
character was way more interesting than Bryan Fuller's "tweaking of
it." He's not JJ Abrams awful, of course, in fact I wouldn't call him
awful at all, just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call it
'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with your
dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much you'd
like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't
really call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are
smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it
ain't through their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
I guess. I never saw shooting, stabbing, drugging, pushing people out
of windows, and over cliffs as particularly 'friendly'.
And those were people he was 'friendly' with. If that's what you think
of, then I'd rather be your enemy... it's safer! :-)
Yeah, Hannibal wanted to bring Will into his world, but it never worked
out. Although they shared a strangeness, it was Hannibal's white whale.
I think slicing one of his friends like a hunk of baloney put the
screws to that idea.
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people,
allowing them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is
something special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has
essentially unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and,
attractively, the ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very
appealing to nearly every serial killer in the series who finds out
about it in the series. Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful
about how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is
capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings
of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he
has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd understand
an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced from actual
experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
In article
<808204454.632789459.983401.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>>>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something >>>>> special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially >>>>> unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>>>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly >>>>> every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series. >>>>> Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about >>>>> how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is
capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings >>>>> of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship,
he has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd
understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced
from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I >>>> think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually >>> feel it.
Are you saying that every woman I've ever dated was a psychopath?
Almost certainly.
On 1/19/21 8:53 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/19/21 8:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was >>>>>>> the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things >>>>>>> all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck. >>>>>>>
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but
they got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I
left it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel
"Hannibal" when the movie came out and Thomas Harris original concept
of the character was way more interesting than Bryan Fuller's
"tweaking of it." He's not JJ Abrams awful, of course, in fact I
wouldn't call him awful at all, just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call
it 'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with
your dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much
you'd like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't
really call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are
smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it
ain't through their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
I guess. I never saw shooting, stabbing, drugging, pushing people out
of windows, and over cliffs as particularly 'friendly'.
And those were people he was 'friendly' with. If that's what you
think of, then I'd rather be your enemy... it's safer! :-)
Yeah, Hannibal wanted to bring Will into his world, but it never
worked out. Although they shared a strangeness, it was Hannibal's
white whale. I think slicing one of his friends like a hunk of
baloney put the screws to that idea.
Really? You're way too smart not to get this. Will has one difference
from everyone else Hannibal comes into contact with: he sees him as an equal. And in the series (I didn't read Red Dragon so I can't speak to
the original char.) Will is just as broken as Hannibal is. Thus the
kinship between them. I can't remember specifically how Will feels
towards Hannibal, but I believe it's a love/hate thing. They certainly
don't share the same bromance concept as I remember it.
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people,
allowing them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is
something special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has
essentially unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and,
attractively, the ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very
appealing to nearly every serial killer in the series who finds out
about it in the series. Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful
about how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is
capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings
of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he
has an ability to understand other people, in the way you'd
understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely divorced
from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Okay, you get partial credit for that. From the google machine:
In early interviews around the conclusion of Hannibal season 3, creator
Bryan Fuller assured the mainstream audience that Hannibal Lecter & Will Graham shared a purely platonic love. “If you take out all of the
cannibalism and everything like that, you can just chart a male friendship.Jul 10, 2020
Bryan Fuller is pure Hannigram trash: Here are all the receipts ... https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/hannibal/hannigram-receipts/
That bastard Fuller had to go and use the word friendship.
On 1/19/21 8:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was
the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things
all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but
they got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I
left it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel "Hannibal"
when the movie came out and Thomas Harris original concept of the
character was way more interesting than Bryan Fuller's "tweaking of
it." He's not JJ Abrams awful, of course, in fact I wouldn't call him
awful at all, just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call it
'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with your
dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much you'd
like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't
really call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are
smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it
ain't through their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
Did you see a different Hannibal? In the original Silence of the
Lambs, he's pretty friendly with Clarice Starling too.
because he insulted (and assaulted) her, when she walked by his cell.
In the last scene, he tells Clarice he won’t be coming for her:
"The world is much more interesting with you in it. Please extend me the
same courtesy."
In the movie Hannibal, he cuts his own hand off... when he could have
just as easily cut HER hand off. He even kisses her, if I remember correctly.
I'd say Hannibal (the character) was always kind of 'friendly'. He even tells Clarice "I'm having an old friend for dinner." :-)
On 1/20/21 7:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/19/21 8:53 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/19/21 8:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was >>>>>>>> the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many
things all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre >>>>>>>> as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but
they got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made
me lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season. >>>>>>
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution
in Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I
left it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel
"Hannibal" when the movie came out and Thomas Harris original
concept of the character was way more interesting than Bryan
Fuller's "tweaking of it." He's not JJ Abrams awful, of course, in
fact I wouldn't call him awful at all, just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call
it 'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with
your dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much
you'd like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't
really call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are
smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it
ain't through their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
I guess. I never saw shooting, stabbing, drugging, pushing people
out of windows, and over cliffs as particularly 'friendly'.
And those were people he was 'friendly' with. If that's what you
think of, then I'd rather be your enemy... it's safer! :-)
Yeah, Hannibal wanted to bring Will into his world, but it never
worked out. Although they shared a strangeness, it was Hannibal's
white whale. I think slicing one of his friends like a hunk of
baloney put the screws to that idea.
Really? You're way too smart not to get this. Will has one
difference from everyone else Hannibal comes into contact with: he
sees him as an equal. And in the series (I didn't read Red Dragon so
I can't speak to the original char.) Will is just as broken as
Hannibal is. Thus the kinship between them. I can't remember
specifically how Will feels towards Hannibal, but I believe it's a
love/hate thing. They certainly don't share the same bromance concept
as I remember it.
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people,
allowing them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is
something special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has
essentially unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and,
attractively, the ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is
very appealing to nearly every serial killer in the series who finds
out about it in the series. Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful
about how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal
is capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no
glimmerings of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a
friendship, he has an ability to understand other people, in the way
you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely
divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really.
I think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Okay, you get partial credit for that. From the google machine:
In early interviews around the conclusion of Hannibal season 3,
creator Bryan Fuller assured the mainstream audience that Hannibal
Lecter & Will Graham shared a purely platonic love. “If you take out
all of the cannibalism and everything like that, you can just chart a
male friendship.Jul 10, 2020
Bryan Fuller is pure Hannigram trash: Here are all the receipts ...
https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/hannibal/hannigram-receipts/
That bastard Fuller had to go and use the word friendship.
Yeah, 'friendship' isn't the word I'd use. 'Preoccupation, maybe. 'Obsession', definitely.
In article <ru6rp0$ghe$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
wrote:
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people, allowing >>> them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is something
special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has essentially
unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and, attractively, the >>> ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is very appealing to nearly
every serial killer in the series who finds out about it in the series.
Being a mass murderer is lonely work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not capable >>> of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful about how we
define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal is capable of it in >>> any way other than pantomime. He has no glimmerings of camaraderie. He has >>> the idea of the aesthetics of a friendship, he has an ability to understand >>> other people, in the way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all >>> almost entirely divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really. I
think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Psychopaths can't feel love, either. They can mimic it, but not actually
feel it.
On 1/20/21 2:52 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/19/21 8:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop was >>>>>>> the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many things >>>>>>> all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre as fuck. >>>>>>>
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but
they got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the
Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of
Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made me
lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season.
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into prison
and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea.
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution in
Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I
left it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel
"Hannibal" when the movie came out and Thomas Harris original concept
of the character was way more interesting than Bryan Fuller's
"tweaking of it." He's not JJ Abrams awful, of course, in fact I
wouldn't call him awful at all, just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call
it 'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have with
your dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how much
you'd like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't
really call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are
smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it
ain't through their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
Did you see a different Hannibal? In the original Silence of the
Lambs, he's pretty friendly with Clarice Starling too.
What are you getting at dude? The televised and filmed universe
supersedes the writer's original intentions. In the book Hannibal it
gets surreal at the end and Hannibal and Clarice are depicted as lovers.
If you're POV is "fuck Thomas Harris Demme and Fuller took it to the
next level" I'm afraid you'll have to show your work on that.
He kills Miggs
because he insulted (and assaulted) her, when she walked by his cell.
Yes, Hannibal as a character loves the cat and mouse games. Sometimes
he just skips the middle part like in the case of Pazzi (sp?) at the beginning of "Hannibal" whom he has words with, then disembowels and
hangs out a window.
In the last scene, he tells Clarice he won’t be coming for her:
"The world is much more interesting with you in it. Please extend me
the same courtesy."
Sure, Hannibal feels a connection to her after she reveals one of her innermost secrets about the lambs being killed. In the book "Hannibal"
he has such a secret himself about his sister being murdered by soldiers
but to the best of my knowledge he never reveals it to anybody.
In the movie Hannibal, he cuts his own hand off... when he could have
just as easily cut HER hand off. He even kisses her, if I remember
correctly.
You really should the book, it's really well written. And the man
eating pigs concept was a shit ton scarier.
I'd say Hannibal (the character) was always kind of 'friendly'. He
even tells Clarice "I'm having an old friend for dinner." :-)
Yeah that's the game he plays to get amusement. I think depictions of
him subsequently turned him into a comic book supervillain because it's
much harder to depict what's really going on in his head.
On 1/20/21 6:54 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 7:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/19/21 8:53 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/19/21 8:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/18/21 4:43 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/18/21 10:34 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/17/21 7:24 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/17/21 11:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
That was hideous but the one that literally made my jaw drop >>>>>>>>> was the totem pole made out of bodies. I don't find very many >>>>>>>>> things all that freaky in horror but I thought that was macabre >>>>>>>>> as fuck.
https://images.app.goo.gl/dYTfgPXj2aYzjUBf9
Yeah, not only did they get away with this on network TV... but >>>>>>>> they got 3 seasons out of it.
And, yet... they made the decision to pull an episode after the >>>>>>>> Boston Marathon bombing...
That made no sense at all!
Easily one of the best things that came out of network tv.
The cast was good and the set pieces were good but the concept of >>>>>>> Lecter mentally masturbating over the concept of friendship made >>>>>>> me lose interest. I don't think I watched any of the third season. >>>>>>>
Well... if you call stabbing someone, and drugging them into
prison and pushing them out of a window as 'friendship'... I might >>>>>> agree.
Dude, clinging to an untenable position is more Thanny's cup of tea. >>>>>
https://thecannibalguy.com/2018/12/30/i-see-a-possibility-of-friendship-hannibal-season-1-episode-8-fuller-2013/
https://bonearenaofmyskull.tumblr.com/post/99425855812/hannibal-is-actually-the-better-friend-we-sort-of
https://www.reddit.com/r/HannibalTV/comments/4yn15x/why_does_hannibal_wish_to_befriend_will/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/80361174588270301/
Is four enough, or do you want to hear from everyone who has ever
watched the show?
And seeing as how Season 2 ended in an absolute bloodbath of a
cliffhanger, I'm surprised you didn't at least see the resolution
in Season 3.
I don't recall watching Season 2 to the end. I don't know where I
left it. I think what killed it for me is I read the novel
"Hannibal" when the movie came out and Thomas Harris original
concept of the character was way more interesting than Bryan
Fuller's "tweaking of it." He's not JJ Abrams awful, of course, in
fact I wouldn't call him awful at all, just slightly out of line.
I like the idea of him living by a code, but I'm not sure I'd call >>>>>> it 'friendship'. It's more like a relationship you might have
with your dog. (The dog isn't really your 'friend', no matter how >>>>>> much you'd like to pretend they can be."
Social relationships with pets exist for sure... but I wouldn't
really call it 'friendship'. It's like when people think dogs are >>>>>> smiling... they're really not. The DO express happiness, but it
ain't through their mouths.
Did we see different shows?
I guess. I never saw shooting, stabbing, drugging, pushing people
out of windows, and over cliffs as particularly 'friendly'.
And those were people he was 'friendly' with. If that's what you
think of, then I'd rather be your enemy... it's safer! :-)
Yeah, Hannibal wanted to bring Will into his world, but it never
worked out. Although they shared a strangeness, it was Hannibal's
white whale. I think slicing one of his friends like a hunk of
baloney put the screws to that idea.
Really? You're way too smart not to get this. Will has one
difference from everyone else Hannibal comes into contact with: he
sees him as an equal. And in the series (I didn't read Red Dragon so
I can't speak to the original char.) Will is just as broken as
Hannibal is. Thus the kinship between them. I can't remember
specifically how Will feels towards Hannibal, but I believe it's a
love/hate thing. They certainly don't share the same bromance
concept as I remember it.
From your Reddit link:
Hannibal has a pathological obsession with creating other killers
(Randall's a good example). He thinks of it as "freeing" people,
allowing them to attain the realization of their potential. Will is
something special, because Will, thanks to his empathy disorder has
essentially unlimited potential from Hannibal's point of view, and,
attractively, the ability to assume Hannibal's own view. This is
very appealing to nearly every serial killer in the series who
finds out about it in the series. Being a mass murderer is lonely
work.
Also, it really has to be said: Hannibal is a psychopath. He is not
capable of empathy, not really. This is why we have to be careful
about how we define friendship, because I sincerely doubt Hannibal
is capable of it in any way other than pantomime. He has no
glimmerings of camaraderie. He has the idea of the aesthetics of a
friendship, he has an ability to understand other people, in the
way you'd understand an anatomy chart, but it's all almost entirely
divorced from actual experience.
That I agree with. He doesn't want to be his friend... not really.
I think he's in LOVE with Will Graham, to tell you the truth.
Okay, you get partial credit for that. From the google machine:
In early interviews around the conclusion of Hannibal season 3,
creator Bryan Fuller assured the mainstream audience that Hannibal
Lecter & Will Graham shared a purely platonic love. “If you take out
all of the cannibalism and everything like that, you can just chart a
male friendship.Jul 10, 2020
Bryan Fuller is pure Hannigram trash: Here are all the receipts ...
https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/hannibal/hannigram-receipts/
That bastard Fuller had to go and use the word friendship.
Yeah, 'friendship' isn't the word I'd use. 'Preoccupation, maybe.
'Obsession', definitely.
Well in a way your correct. Just because Hannibal says it all the time doesn't make it or him any less maladjusted. Interesting discussion
though. Way back when when Pubie and others were the topic police they
would hypocritically complain about posts being "off topic" but you've obviously seen the shallow, vapid convos from most of the regulars. Some
are exceptions but not often enough for me.
On 1/20/21 8:18 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/20/21 6:54 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 7:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
In early interviews around the conclusion of Hannibal season 3,
creator Bryan Fuller assured the mainstream audience that Hannibal
Lecter & Will Graham shared a purely platonic love. “If you take out
all of the cannibalism and everything like that, you can just chart
a male friendship.Jul 10, 2020
Bryan Fuller is pure Hannigram trash: Here are all the receipts ...
https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/hannibal/hannigram-receipts/
That bastard Fuller had to go and use the word friendship.
Yeah, 'friendship' isn't the word I'd use. 'Preoccupation, maybe.
'Obsession', definitely.
Well in a way your correct. Just because Hannibal says it all the
time doesn't make it or him any less maladjusted. Interesting
discussion though. Way back when when Pubie and others were the topic
police they would hypocritically complain about posts being "off
topic" but you've obviously seen the shallow, vapid convos from most
of the regulars. Some are exceptions but not often enough for me.
Thanny keeps telling me I don't watch any TV... probably because I
don't rag on the stupidity of 96% of everything that's on TV, or drool publicly over every set of boobs I see.
There's not a lot I'd brag about watching, honestly. (I do watch some
dreck, but I keep it to myself.)
There's a lot on TV that's worth discussing, but I never seen most of
them discussed here. SouthLAnd, Penny Dreadful, Legion, Black Sails, Boomtown, The Millennium Trilogy (the Swedish 'Dragon Tattoo' works,
some of which were TV series).
As with most shows 10% of it's outstanding, 30% of it's good, 40% of
it's okay, and 20% are stinkers. Most people only want to talk about
the stinkers.
On 1/20/21 9:31 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 8:18 AM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/20/21 6:54 AM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 7:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
In early interviews around the conclusion of Hannibal season 3,
creator Bryan Fuller assured the mainstream audience that Hannibal
Lecter & Will Graham shared a purely platonic love. “If you take
out all of the cannibalism and everything like that, you can just
chart a male friendship.Jul 10, 2020
Bryan Fuller is pure Hannigram trash: Here are all the receipts ...
https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/hannibal/hannigram-receipts/
That bastard Fuller had to go and use the word friendship.
Yeah, 'friendship' isn't the word I'd use. 'Preoccupation, maybe.
'Obsession', definitely.
Well in a way your correct. Just because Hannibal says it all the
time doesn't make it or him any less maladjusted. Interesting
discussion though. Way back when when Pubie and others were the
topic police they would hypocritically complain about posts being
"off topic" but you've obviously seen the shallow, vapid convos from
most of the regulars. Some are exceptions but not often enough for me.
Thanny keeps telling me I don't watch any TV... probably because I
don't rag on the stupidity of 96% of everything that's on TV, or drool
publicly over every set of boobs I see.
There's not a lot I'd brag about watching, honestly. (I do watch some
dreck, but I keep it to myself.)
There's a lot on TV that's worth discussing, but I never seen most of
them discussed here. SouthLAnd, Penny Dreadful, Legion, Black Sails,
Boomtown, The Millennium Trilogy (the Swedish 'Dragon Tattoo' works,
some of which were TV series).
As with most shows 10% of it's outstanding, 30% of it's good, 40% of
it's okay, and 20% are stinkers. Most people only want to talk about
the stinkers.
I started watching the original Hawaii Five-0 on CBS All Access. Some
of the eps. were silly but most were not. As a police procedure show
it's actually really good, and the Hawaiian setting is the bomb. CBS
has mastered it in HD so the video and audio quality are shockingly
good. I couldn't even compare it to the new version, which was
abysmally shitty in my opinion.
I've watched Penny Dreadful and most of Black Sails. Penny Dreadful was raved about by some but I would mostly describe it as lurid more than anything else. I even found the concept funny: "Penny Dreadfuls" were
cheap tawdry novels from back in the day. Unfortunately, Italians had already created the giallo genre for the exact same reason.
The show of that ilk I liked the most was Tom Hardy's Taboo. They only
made one season which is a shame, but it held my interest throughout.
Jason Momoa made a show that I also liked, the rather generically named Frontier. That was more uneven, but still interesting. My buddy, who
loves sitcoms, told me to watch Mr. Mayor, and I made it through one and
a half eps. The premier was cowritten by Tina Fey, and moments of brilliance. The second ep. was written by the same guy that cowrote the first one, who also executive produces it, but it wasn't as interesting
and I think I fell asleep and never watched the rest of it. I liked the
show Mother for a while until the very pretty Anna Faris started looking anorexic and I couldn't handle it anymore. But to reiterate what I said previously, when TV gets to lowbrow I'm glad I have the Criterion
Channel to fall back on. And I still haven't managed to pull the
trigger on HBO Max for some reason.
On 1/20/21 7:09 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 10:50 AM, trotsky wrote:
The show of that ilk I liked the most was Tom Hardy's Taboo. They
only made one season which is a shame, but it held my interest
throughout. Jason Momoa made a show that I also liked, the rather
generically named Frontier. That was more uneven, but still
interesting. My buddy, who loves sitcoms, told me to watch Mr.
Mayor, and I made it through one and a half eps. The premier was
cowritten by Tina Fey, and moments of brilliance. The second ep. was
written by the same guy that cowrote the first one, who also
executive produces it, but it wasn't as interesting and I think I
fell asleep and never watched the rest of it. I liked the show
Mother for a while until the very pretty Anna Faris started looking
anorexic and I couldn't handle it anymore. But to reiterate what I
said previously, when TV gets to lowbrow I'm glad I have the
Criterion Channel to fall back on. And I still haven't managed to
pull the trigger on HBO Max for some reason.
Taboo, Season 2 was announced back in 2018, I think. Since then... no
word, but I hear it depends upon the availability of tom Hardy and the
pandemic. I enjoyed it quite a bit... mostly because it was never
predictable, and never sugar coated.
Yup... Penny Dreadful was lurid. I think that was the point. The one
absolute bright spot was Eva Green. I don't think there was a single
scene she didn't dominate and elevate it to an art form. There were a
lot of great performances from the supporting characters, and it was
rarely boring.
I'm not much for comedies... hated The Office. Hated Parks and Rec.
Hate most of them.
But I think "What We Do In the Shadows" is the best of what's on now.
The Good Place was a close second. Silicon Valley and VEEP were both
gems, also. As far as animation goes, I like Bob's Burgers and the
sick and twisted Rick & Morty.
I've got a few guilty pleasures... but if I miss a few episodes, I
don't feel like I need to catch up. The only constant rule is 'no
commercials'. I don't care how good the show is, if I have to watch
commercials, I'm gone.
HBO Max is worth it for The Flight Attendant alone. And, of course,
there are the old standards - The Sopranos, Watchmen, Westworld, Rick
& Morty. (Check out The Alienist, if you liked Taboo.)
And, of course, the Snyder cut of Justice League looks like it's worth
a look... coming soon.
Eva Green was great. You're right in that she made the show. As for comedies, the last two good ones I've seen have been HBO: Silicon Valley
and Ballers. I'll look into the Flight Attendant, you seem to know the
wheat from the chaff TV wise. I haven't watched VEEP but may get around
to it. I'll probably pop for HBO Max this weekend not that they've
extended the introductory deal.
On 1/20/21 10:50 AM, trotsky wrote:
The show of that ilk I liked the most was Tom Hardy's Taboo. They
only made one season which is a shame, but it held my interest
throughout. Jason Momoa made a show that I also liked, the rather
generically named Frontier. That was more uneven, but still
interesting. My buddy, who loves sitcoms, told me to watch Mr. Mayor,
and I made it through one and a half eps. The premier was cowritten
by Tina Fey, and moments of brilliance. The second ep. was written by
the same guy that cowrote the first one, who also executive produces
it, but it wasn't as interesting and I think I fell asleep and never
watched the rest of it. I liked the show Mother for a while until the
very pretty Anna Faris started looking anorexic and I couldn't handle
it anymore. But to reiterate what I said previously, when TV gets to
lowbrow I'm glad I have the Criterion Channel to fall back on. And I
still haven't managed to pull the trigger on HBO Max for some reason.
Taboo, Season 2 was announced back in 2018, I think. Since then... no
word, but I hear it depends upon the availability of tom Hardy and the pandemic. I enjoyed it quite a bit... mostly because it was never predictable, and never sugar coated.
Yup... Penny Dreadful was lurid. I think that was the point. The one absolute bright spot was Eva Green. I don't think there was a single
scene she didn't dominate and elevate it to an art form. There were a
lot of great performances from the supporting characters, and it was
rarely boring.
I'm not much for comedies... hated The Office. Hated Parks and Rec.
Hate most of them.
But I think "What We Do In the Shadows" is the best of what's on now.
The Good Place was a close second. Silicon Valley and VEEP were both
gems, also. As far as animation goes, I like Bob's Burgers and the sick
and twisted Rick & Morty.
I've got a few guilty pleasures... but if I miss a few episodes, I don't
feel like I need to catch up. The only constant rule is 'no
commercials'. I don't care how good the show is, if I have to watch commercials, I'm gone.
HBO Max is worth it for The Flight Attendant alone. And, of course,
there are the old standards - The Sopranos, Watchmen, Westworld, Rick & Morty. (Check out The Alienist, if you liked Taboo.)
And, of course, the Snyder cut of Justice League looks like it's worth a look... coming soon.
On 1/20/21 7:09 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 10:50 AM, trotsky wrote:
The show of that ilk I liked the most was Tom Hardy's Taboo. They
only made one season which is a shame, but it held my interest
throughout. Jason Momoa made a show that I also liked, the rather
generically named Frontier. That was more uneven, but still
interesting. My buddy, who loves sitcoms, told me to watch Mr.
Mayor, and I made it through one and a half eps. The premier was
cowritten by Tina Fey, and moments of brilliance. The second ep. was
written by the same guy that cowrote the first one, who also
executive produces it, but it wasn't as interesting and I think I
fell asleep and never watched the rest of it. I liked the show
Mother for a while until the very pretty Anna Faris started looking
anorexic and I couldn't handle it anymore. But to reiterate what I
said previously, when TV gets to lowbrow I'm glad I have the
Criterion Channel to fall back on. And I still haven't managed to
pull the trigger on HBO Max for some reason.
Taboo, Season 2 was announced back in 2018, I think. Since then... no
word, but I hear it depends upon the availability of tom Hardy and the
pandemic. I enjoyed it quite a bit... mostly because it was never
predictable, and never sugar coated.
Yup... Penny Dreadful was lurid. I think that was the point. The one
absolute bright spot was Eva Green. I don't think there was a single
scene she didn't dominate and elevate it to an art form. There were a
lot of great performances from the supporting characters, and it was
rarely boring.
I'm not much for comedies... hated The Office. Hated Parks and Rec.
Hate most of them.
But I think "What We Do In the Shadows" is the best of what's on now.
The Good Place was a close second. Silicon Valley and VEEP were both
gems, also. As far as animation goes, I like Bob's Burgers and the
sick and twisted Rick & Morty.
I've got a few guilty pleasures... but if I miss a few episodes, I
don't feel like I need to catch up. The only constant rule is 'no
commercials'. I don't care how good the show is, if I have to watch
commercials, I'm gone.
HBO Max is worth it for The Flight Attendant alone. And, of course,
there are the old standards - The Sopranos, Watchmen, Westworld, Rick
& Morty. (Check out The Alienist, if you liked Taboo.)
And, of course, the Snyder cut of Justice League looks like it's worth
a look... coming soon.
Eva Green was great. You're right in that she made the show. As for comedies, the last two good ones I've seen have been HBO: Silicon Valley
and Ballers. I'll look into the Flight Attendant, you seem to know the
wheat from the chaff TV wise. I haven't watched VEEP but may get around
to it. I'll probably pop for HBO Max this weekend not that they've
extended the introductory deal.
On 1/21/21 12:50 PM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/20/21 7:09 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 10:50 AM, trotsky wrote:
The show of that ilk I liked the most was Tom Hardy's Taboo. They
only made one season which is a shame, but it held my interest
throughout. Jason Momoa made a show that I also liked, the rather
generically named Frontier. That was more uneven, but still
interesting. My buddy, who loves sitcoms, told me to watch Mr.
Mayor, and I made it through one and a half eps. The premier was
cowritten by Tina Fey, and moments of brilliance. The second ep.
was written by the same guy that cowrote the first one, who also
executive produces it, but it wasn't as interesting and I think I
fell asleep and never watched the rest of it. I liked the show
Mother for a while until the very pretty Anna Faris started looking
anorexic and I couldn't handle it anymore. But to reiterate what I
said previously, when TV gets to lowbrow I'm glad I have the
Criterion Channel to fall back on. And I still haven't managed to
pull the trigger on HBO Max for some reason.
Taboo, Season 2 was announced back in 2018, I think. Since then...
no word, but I hear it depends upon the availability of tom Hardy and
the pandemic. I enjoyed it quite a bit... mostly because it was
never predictable, and never sugar coated.
Yup... Penny Dreadful was lurid. I think that was the point. The one
absolute bright spot was Eva Green. I don't think there was a single
scene she didn't dominate and elevate it to an art form. There were a
lot of great performances from the supporting characters, and it was
rarely boring.
I'm not much for comedies... hated The Office. Hated Parks and Rec.
Hate most of them.
But I think "What We Do In the Shadows" is the best of what's on now.
The Good Place was a close second. Silicon Valley and VEEP were both
gems, also. As far as animation goes, I like Bob's Burgers and the
sick and twisted Rick & Morty.
I've got a few guilty pleasures... but if I miss a few episodes, I
don't feel like I need to catch up. The only constant rule is 'no
commercials'. I don't care how good the show is, if I have to watch
commercials, I'm gone.
HBO Max is worth it for The Flight Attendant alone. And, of course,
there are the old standards - The Sopranos, Watchmen, Westworld, Rick
& Morty. (Check out The Alienist, if you liked Taboo.)
And, of course, the Snyder cut of Justice League looks like it's
worth a look... coming soon.
Eva Green was great. You're right in that she made the show. As for
comedies, the last two good ones I've seen have been HBO: Silicon
Valley and Ballers. I'll look into the Flight Attendant, you seem to
know the wheat from the chaff TV wise. I haven't watched VEEP but may
get around to it. I'll probably pop for HBO Max this weekend not that
they've extended the introductory deal.
Just a taste of the Wicked Witch of the West Wing, then... (Also known
as VEEPthroat, Tawdry Hepburn.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfN8Bohq6Lc
Dan: "I was trying to use Jonah for intelligence."
Selina: "That's like trying to use a croissant as a fucking dildo...
no, no - let me be more clear... It doesn't do the job, and it makes a fucking MESS!"
Real Shakespearean dialogue.
On 1/21/2021 12:50 PM, trotsky wrote:
On 1/20/21 7:09 PM, FPP wrote:
On 1/20/21 10:50 AM, trotsky wrote:
The show of that ilk I liked the most was Tom Hardy's Taboo. They
only made one season which is a shame, but it held my interest
throughout. Jason Momoa made a show that I also liked, the rather
generically named Frontier. That was more uneven, but still
interesting. My buddy, who loves sitcoms, told me to watch Mr.
Mayor, and I made it through one and a half eps. The premier was
cowritten by Tina Fey, and moments of brilliance. The second ep.
was written by the same guy that cowrote the first one, who also
executive produces it, but it wasn't as interesting and I think I
fell asleep and never watched the rest of it. I liked the show
Mother for a while until the very pretty Anna Faris started looking
anorexic and I couldn't handle it anymore. But to reiterate what I
said previously, when TV gets to lowbrow I'm glad I have the
Criterion Channel to fall back on. And I still haven't managed to
pull the trigger on HBO Max for some reason.
Taboo, Season 2 was announced back in 2018, I think. Since then...
no word, but I hear it depends upon the availability of tom Hardy and
the pandemic. I enjoyed it quite a bit... mostly because it was
never predictable, and never sugar coated.
Yup... Penny Dreadful was lurid. I think that was the point. The one
absolute bright spot was Eva Green. I don't think there was a single
scene she didn't dominate and elevate it to an art form. There were a
lot of great performances from the supporting characters, and it was
rarely boring.
I'm not much for comedies... hated The Office. Hated Parks and Rec.
Hate most of them.
But I think "What We Do In the Shadows" is the best of what's on now.
The Good Place was a close second. Silicon Valley and VEEP were both
gems, also. As far as animation goes, I like Bob's Burgers and the
sick and twisted Rick & Morty.
I've got a few guilty pleasures... but if I miss a few episodes, I
don't feel like I need to catch up. The only constant rule is 'no
commercials'. I don't care how good the show is, if I have to watch
commercials, I'm gone.
HBO Max is worth it for The Flight Attendant alone. And, of course,
there are the old standards - The Sopranos, Watchmen, Westworld, Rick
& Morty. (Check out The Alienist, if you liked Taboo.)
And, of course, the Snyder cut of Justice League looks like it's
worth a look... coming soon.
Eva Green was great. You're right in that she made the show. As for
comedies, the last two good ones I've seen have been HBO: Silicon
Valley and Ballers. I'll look into the Flight Attendant, you seem to
know the wheat from the chaff TV wise. I haven't watched VEEP but may
get around to it. I'll probably pop for HBO Max this weekend not that
they've extended the introductory deal.
Fwiw, FIOs and a few others include HBOMax with HBO, for now at least.
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