• _Dune_

    From septimus_millenicom@q.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 25 03:16:23 2021
    I caught Villeneuve's _Dune_ (part 1) on the big screen, and
    wish I had waited for streaming so I could turn down the
    volume. The sound design and soundtrack are the worst things
    about the film -- they drown out the dialogue and seem
    exactly the same in every single scene -- but they are
    just the first of a litany of poor decisions on the part of
    the director and co-writers.

    1. The screenplay/adapation is just very poor. Frank Herbert
    wrote all his novels like screenplays, with superb openings
    and cliff-hangers between every scene. There is very little
    suspense in this screenplay, but perhaps that's also an
    editing problem. So many scenes are special effect galore,
    obviously done with tons of money, but devoid of wit or
    dramatic impact.

    2. The tension between the Astreides is almost completely
    lost in the film. The assassination attempt on Paul early
    on is designed to sow discord between the Astreides. Idaho
    openly distrusts Lady Jessica and Halleck thinks she is
    the traitor till late in the book. For those not familiar
    with the book, retaining this element would have given the
    film the dramatic tension it lacks.

    3. Jessica's role and importance are substantially reduced.
    In the book she has the first and last word. In the film
    her big opening scene appears much, much later, after a
    lot of pointless pagentry scenes. Some of these, like the
    greetings of the Emperor's envoys on Caladin, are not even
    in the book, they are pure window dressing.

    Rebecca Ferguson is quite good, by the way. I wish I could
    say the same of the rest of the actors. The actress playing
    Liet Kynes is just dreadful -- and this has nothing to do
    with their casting a woman in the role. She doesn't have
    an ounce of gravita, inner conviction, or long-term vision
    needed to inhabit that role. In the book an entire chapter
    is devoted to Kyne's internal monologue as he walks to his
    death in the desert. Here she is dispatched with a knife,
    horror film style, like it is a joke.

    Other than Ferguson, the casting is quite poor.

    4. The film does end with one of the two key duels in the book
    -- where Paul kills Jamis reluctantly. I kind of predicted
    this -- the duel is at the exact middle of the book, and
    nicely bookends the later, climatic duel. But it removes the
    element that makes this scene great and unforgettable, namely,
    Jessica's (and Stilgar's) cold shouldering of Paul afterwards.
    Jessica does this to teach him a lesson; he should never be
    allowed to enjoy besting someone vastly inferior to him in
    training, lest he becomes the same monster that the Harkonens
    are. I've watched so many martial arts films/TV shows and
    none of them has this insight; their "heroes" are stone-cold
    killers at their first kill.

    The list goes on. I've often said that _Dune_ (and the next
    two books) would be much better as stage-plays with minimal
    special effects. It is completely to be expected that
    Villeneuve goes in the opposite direction, given his recent
    track record, but his _Dune_ is a lot more disappointing that
    I could have imagined. The one innovation it brings is to use
    ancillary characters to voice Paul's visions and premonitions.
    Thus Jamis actually "speaks" to Paul, giving him advice, before
    they meet in combat. That is a nice touch and the film should
    have done that more consistently and frequently.

    (for A.)

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  • From septimus_millenicom@q.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 26 15:58:26 2021
    On Mond

    4. The film does end with one of the two key duels in the book
    -- where Paul kills Jamis reluctantly. I kind of predicted
    this -- the duel is at the exact middle of the book, and
    nicely bookends the later, climatic duel. But it removes the
    element that makes this scene great and unforgettable, namely,
    Jessica's (and Stilgar's) cold shouldering of Paul afterwards.
    Jessica does this to teach him a lesson; he should never be
    allowed to enjoy besting someone vastly inferior to him in
    training, lest he becomes the same monster that the Harkonens
    are. I've watched so many martial arts films/TV shows and
    none of them has this insight; their "heroes" are stone-cold
    killers at their first kill.

    Incidentally, when Chani gives Paul the knife in the book, she
    actually also slips him tips about fighting Jamis -- that the
    latter can fight with both hands. This hints at the complex
    dynamics within the Fremen tribe, and perhaps Chani's attraction
    to Paul right from the beginning, or her hope that he will indeed
    be the "Messiah." In the film, she does nothing of the kind;
    the filmmakers probably make the change to make Paul more
    heroic, but like many of the other small changes, it detracts
    from the emotional complexity of the book.

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  • From septimus_millenicom@q.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 31 22:33:49 2021
    One more poor change in that whole sequence. In the
    film, Stilgar asks Paul to hand over his maula pistol and
    he obliges. In the book, Stilgar calls for Paul to come
    down from his hiding place and Paul does nothing. Jessica
    explains that he would only listen to her commands. The
    film probably omits this bit to once again diminish Jessica's
    authority and importance, but compared with the book, the
    characters' motivations become quite juvenile.

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