• Re: The Alec Baldwin Left Hook

    From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Apr 23 10:04:10 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    “The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews”

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    “shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the "Rust" movie
    set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded.”

    Nice to know they’ve made that determination.

    “This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.”

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 23 16:14:01 2024
    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 23 15:23:38 2024
    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    “The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews”

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    “shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the "Rust" movie set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded.”

    Nice to know they’ve made that determination.

    “This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.”

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but says
    nothing about her emphatically asking for it.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to moviePig on Tue Apr 23 14:49:02 2024
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    “The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >> Friends and is known for ambush interviews”

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    “shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the "Rust" movie >> set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded.”

    Nice to know they’ve made that determination.

    “This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
    redistributed.”

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but says nothing about her emphatically asking for it.




    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 23 17:35:52 2024
    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12



    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    “The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews”

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
    Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 24 03:48:43 2024
    On 4/23/24 4:49 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>>

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    “The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews”

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    “shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the "Rust" movie >>> set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded.”

    Nice to know they’ve made that determination.

    “This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
    redistributed.”

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but says
    nothing about her emphatically asking for it.




    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.



    What do your other gay friends think?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Thu Apr 25 16:59:44 2024
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12

    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the RUST movie >>> set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."

    Nice to know they've made that determination.

    "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
    redistributed."

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but says
    nothing about her emphatically asking for it.

    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot scumbag you have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video that makes me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec Baldwin video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say anything that would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the benefit of the doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to squander that advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as humanly possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 25 17:12:03 2024
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>>

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
    Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him say it?

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he
    believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the point?

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say "black lives matter".

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must* say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you.
    If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence
    of the power they wield.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Apr 25 17:31:11 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>:
    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12

    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>>Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
    Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    Because during the George Floyd killing protests, they got various
    chiefs of police to take a knee and repeat "Black Lives Matter!" It's
    worked in the past and they don't have an original thought.

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If
    you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is
    there in making him say it?

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because
    you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll
    go away if he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not >because he believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's
    just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get
    out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the point?

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >"black lives matter".

    Dear ghod

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must* >say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >*prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. >If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over >you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence >of the power they wield.

    Well, yeah. It's always clear that they are demanding appeasement.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Apr 25 14:01:35 2024
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >wrote:

    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
    Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a >normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him >say it?

    I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
    just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
    but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
    phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
    use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
    Palestine!"

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you >have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if >he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he >believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a >phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does >that accomplish? What's the point?

    The clicks are all that matters.

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >"black lives matter".

    My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
    would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
    their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
    the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must* >say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >*prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. >If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over >you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence >of the power they wield.

    Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
    feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
    their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
    war.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 25 14:53:31 2024
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12

    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney &
    Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the RUST movie >>>> set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."

    Nice to know they've made that determination.

    "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
    redistributed."

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but says >>> nothing about her emphatically asking for it.

    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec Baldwin video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion, scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say anything that would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to squander that advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as humanly possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, really, quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own home.
    Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but even on
    its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's message.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to shawn on Thu Apr 25 15:06:46 2024
    On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney &
    Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
    Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec
    Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a
    normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him
    say it?

    I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
    just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
    but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
    phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
    use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
    Palestine!"

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you
    have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if
    he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he
    believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a >> phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does >> that accomplish? What's the point?

    The clicks are all that matters.

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into
    restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >> "black lives matter".

    My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
    would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
    their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
    the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must*
    say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
    *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. >> If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over >> you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence >> of the power they wield.

    Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
    feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
    their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
    war.

    I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".
    Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering
    and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Apr 25 15:02:15 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    Wow, that dumb cunt made me feel sorry for Alex Baldwin!

    Is this the world we live in?

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Apr 25 15:26:40 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    I assume it's a show of contrition from the person or a way to get an out- of-context quote they can repeat ad infinitum.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Thu Apr 25 19:30:48 2024
    On Apr 25, 2024 at 12:23:27 PM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw. >>
    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney &
    Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    For all her bravado, I would love to see that dumb cunt visit Gaza.

    https://ibb.co/BrdfNnB

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Apr 25 14:51:27 2024
    On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:

    On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>> wrote:

    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12



    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>>>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their >>> target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec
    Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a
    normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him
    say it?

    I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
    just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
    but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
    phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
    use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
    Palestine!"

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you
    have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if
    he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he
    believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a
    phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does
    that accomplish? What's the point?

    The clicks are all that matters.

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >>> restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say
    "black lives matter".

    My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
    would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
    their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
    the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It >>> seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must*
    say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost
    *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you.
    If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over
    you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've >>> scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence
    of the power they wield.

    Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
    feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
    their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
    war.

    I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".

    I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing
    "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.

    Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering
    and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to anim8rfsk@cox.net on Thu Apr 25 15:23:27 2024
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    For all her bravado, I would love to see that dumb cunt visit Gaza.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Apr 25 13:27:31 2024
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into >restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say >"black lives matter".

    Demanding someone say views they don't share is violence.

    That's quite different than prosecutors and defenders trying to get
    witnesses to say things not in their interests during
    cross-examination.....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 03:09:33 2024
    On 4/25/24 11:59 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12

    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney &
    Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the RUST movie >>>> set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."

    Nice to know they've made that determination.

    "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
    redistributed."

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but says >>> nothing about her emphatically asking for it.

    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic;


    Do you have any similar words of wisdom for Trump's trial, or is it that
    no balls thing again?


    to create a video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec Baldwin video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion, scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say anything that would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to squander that advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as humanly possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, really, quite an achievement.



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 03:11:16 2024
    On 4/25/24 12:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say
    Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from
    her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand their target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".


    Great point, it's not like the insurrectionists did that when they had
    that "ruckus" at the Capitol, amirite? No balls alert.


    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in making him
    say it?

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it because you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll go away if
    he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the point?

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst into restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that they say "black lives matter".

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. It seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. You *must*
    say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over you. If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any power over you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because they've scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line evidence of the power they wield.




    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 03:31:24 2024
    On 4/25/24 2:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 25, 2024 at 12:23:27 PM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney & >>> Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    For all her bravado, I would love to see that dumb cunt visit Gaza.

    https://ibb.co/BrdfNnB


    If you had any balls you could do something other than whine and bitch
    and moan about it. Talk about dumb cunts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Apr 26 04:38:34 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the >>>> jaw.

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney
    & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    For all her bravado, I would love to see that dumb cunt visit Gaza.

    https://ibb.co/BrdfNnB

    Bwah!

    I have a short story somewhere about one of these useful idiots trying to impose her way on some Moslems overseas, only to get brutally raped.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 26 03:32:42 2024
    On 4/25/24 2:51 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:

    On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Apr 23, 2024 at 3:35:52 PM PDT, "super70s"
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to >>>>>>> the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12


    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead
    Barney &
    Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >>>>> her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they
    demand their
    target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now Alec >>>> Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If
    you're a
    normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is there in
    making him
    say it?

    I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
    just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
    but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
    phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
    use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
    Palestine!"

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it
    because you
    have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures you'll
    go away if
    he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut up, not because he >>>> believes it. You haven't changed his mind or anything. He's just
    repeating a
    phrase that you have assigned to him. What do you get out of that?
    What does
    that accomplish? What's the point?

    The clicks are all that matters.

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst
    into
    restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand that
    they say
    "black lives matter".

    My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
    would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
    their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
    the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every
    situation. It
    seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons.
    You *must*
    say the words they want regardless of whether you believe them or not. >>>>
    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power
    over you.
    If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any
    power over
    you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in because
    they've
    scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have bright line
    evidence
    of the power they wield.

    Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
    feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
    their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
    war.

    I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".

    I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing
    "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.


    Probably supplied him with loofahs too.


    Regardless, I think the idea is that you'll be filmed either "cowering
    and caving to the truth" or "unable even to utter the words".


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Apr 26 03:37:00 2024
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot
    to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead
    Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the RUST >>>>> movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but
    says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot
    scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video
    that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec
    Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to squander
    that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own home.
    Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but even on
    its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's message.


    You're defending right wing asshole Chuck Heston? Is it an age thing?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Apr 26 03:40:44 2024
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot
    to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead
    Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the RUST >>>>> movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her but
    says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot
    scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video
    that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec
    Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to squander
    that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own home.
    Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but even on
    its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine
    about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the gun
    out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may now be)
    vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by your
    standards. How do you put two and two together and keep coming up with
    fifty million?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Fri Apr 26 03:54:59 2024
    On 4/26/24 3:38 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the >>>>> jaw.

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney >>>> & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    For all her bravado, I would love to see that dumb cunt visit Gaza.

    https://ibb.co/BrdfNnB

    Bwah!

    I have a short story somewhere


    In your pants most likely.


    about one of these useful idiots trying to
    impose her way on some Moslems overseas, only to get brutally raped.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Fri Apr 26 04:30:43 2024
    In article <v0ec7v$36anb$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
    On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the >>>>>>> jaw.



    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead
    Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >>>>> her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand
    their target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now >>>> Alec Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free
    Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If
    you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is
    there in making him say it?

    I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
    just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine
    but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
    phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
    use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
    Palestine!"

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it
    because you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures >>>> you'll go away if he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut
    up, not because he believes it. You haven't changed his mind or
    anything. He's just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him.
    What do you get out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the
    point?

    The clicks are all that matters.

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst
    into restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand
    that they say "black lives matter".

    My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
    would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
    their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
    the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. >>>> It seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. >>>> You *must* say the words they want regardless of whether you believe
    them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over >>>> you. If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any >>>> power over you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in >>>> because they've scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have >>>> bright line evidence of the power they wield.

    Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
    feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
    their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
    war.

    I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".

    I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing
    "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.

    Your understanding is wrong.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Fri Apr 26 12:25:39 2024
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot >>>>>>> to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead >>>>>> Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the
    RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her
    but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot
    scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video
    that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec
    Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion, >>> scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to
    squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as humanly >>> possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean,
    really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own home.
    Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but even on
    its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine
    about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the gun
    out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may now be)
    vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by your
    standards.  How do you put two and two together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man evoked
    an instinctive viewer-response that transcended policy/politics. It was
    a simple failure of technique, costly to his persuasiveness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to gmsingh@email.com on Fri Apr 26 13:13:22 2024
    In article <DZJWN.4629$jcJc.1788@fx42.iad>, gmsingh@email.com wrote:
    On 4/26/24 3:38 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the >>>>>> jaw.

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead Barney >>>>> & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne

    For all her bravado, I would love to see that dumb cunt visit Gaza.

    https://ibb.co/BrdfNnB

    Bwah!

    I have a short story somewhere

    In your pants most likely.

    Projection noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Apr 26 12:30:35 2024
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot >>>>>>>> to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called
    Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the
    RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>   redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her
    but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot
    scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video
    that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec
    Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation,
    revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to
    squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as
    humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean,
    really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own
    home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but
    even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's
    message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine
    about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the gun
    out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may now
    be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by your
    standards.  How do you put two and two together and keep coming up
    with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man evoked
    an instinctive viewer-response that transcended policy/politics.  It was
    a simple failure of technique, costly to his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself. Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole
    doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was. The reviewers weren't
    either. The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks, and
    Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying. Fuck
    you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode. I used to
    hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching this thing
    they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids
    about gun safety. The NRA had merit then, that was back in the early
    90s. Then they reinvented themselves into a lobbying organization so
    the gun industry could profit by selling more and more guns. They are
    scum. If you don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to trotsky on Fri Apr 26 13:16:05 2024
    "trotsky" wrote:

    If you had any balls

    Please stop sharing your obsession about being teabagged here.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to trotsky on Fri Apr 26 11:46:16 2024
    In article <17c9e4bd7c6b53cc$8511$1354752$c8d58268@news.newsdemon.com>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot >>>>>>>> to the jaw.

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called
    Crackhead Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>>>>
    "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the
    RUST movie set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."

    Nice to know they've made that determination.

    There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her
    but says nothing about her emphatically asking for it.

    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>
    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot
    scumbag you have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to
    create a video that makes me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause
    usually when I watch an Alec Baldwin video, the emotions I'm
    accustomed to feeling are irritation, revulsion, scorn. I didn't
    think it was possible for someone to do or say anything that would
    make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is.
    In order to squander that advantage, you have to go out of your way
    to be as unpleasant as humanly possible. And she managed to do it
    in less than a minute. I mean, really, quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own
    home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but
    even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's
    message.

    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine
    about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the gun
    out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may now
    be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by your
    standards.  How do you put two and two together and keep coming up
    with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man evoked
    an instinctive viewer-response that transcended policy/politics.  It was
    a simple failure of technique, costly to his persuasiveness.

    I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys

    "That's surprising!" said no one.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Fri Apr 26 15:03:19 2024
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called
    Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the >>>>>>>> RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>   redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her >>>>>>> but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>
    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot
    scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a video
    that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an Alec
    Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation,
    revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to
    squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as
    humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean,
    really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own
    home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's, but
    even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to Moore's
    message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine
    about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the
    gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may
    now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by
    your standards.  How do you put two and two together and keep coming
    up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man evoked
    an instinctive viewer-response that transcended policy/politics.  It
    was a simple failure of technique, costly to his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole
    doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't
    either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying.  Fuck
    you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode.  I used to
    hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching this thing
    they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids
    about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, that was back in the early
    90s.  Then they reinvented themselves into a lobbying organization so
    the gun industry could profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Apr 27 03:19:59 2024
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >>>>>> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called
    Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the >>>>>>>>> RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>   redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking her >>>>>>>> but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>>
    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, idiot >>>>>> scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a
    video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an
    Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation,
    revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to
    squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as
    humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean,
    really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where
    Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own
    home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's,
    but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to
    Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to whine
    about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to pry the
    gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the case may
    now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of whack even by
    your standards.  How do you put two and two together and keep coming
    up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man
    evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to his
    persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole
    doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't
    either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks,
    and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying.
    Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode.  I
    used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching
    this thing they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle,
    teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, that was back
    in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves into a lobbying
    organization so the gun industry could profit by selling more and more
    guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and torture.
    Try harder. I know you know what the words actually mean so stop
    fucking around.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Sat Apr 27 12:01:17 2024
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called
    Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the >>>>>>>>>> RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>   redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>> her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>>>
    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering,
    idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a
    video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an
    Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation,
    revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say
    anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the
    benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to
    squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as >>>>>>> humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I mean, >>>>>>> really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, where >>>>>> Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around his own
    home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with Alzheimer's,
    but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane aspect to
    Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to
    whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to
    pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as the
    case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of
    whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two together
    and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man
    evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to
    his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole
    doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't
    either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks,
    and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying.
    Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode.  I
    used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching
    this thing they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle,
    teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, that was
    back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves into a
    lobbying organization so the gun industry could profit by selling
    more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this I feel
    sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and torture.
     Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean so stop
    fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree. What's the same is the motive.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sat Apr 27 12:45:43 2024
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded."
      Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>>   redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>>> her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>>>>
    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering,
    idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a
    video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an >>>>>>>> Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation,
    revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say >>>>>>>> anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the >>>>>>>> benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to
    squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant as >>>>>>>> humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I
    mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale,
    where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around
    his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with
    Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane
    aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to
    whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to
    pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as
    the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out of >>>>>> whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two together >>>>>> and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man
    evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to
    his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole
    doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't
    either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks,
    and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of dying.
    Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit mode.  I
    used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember watching
    this thing they showed kids with a character called Eddie Eagle,
    teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then, that was
    back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves into a
    lobbying organization so the gun industry could profit by selling
    more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this I feel
    sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean
    so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive.


    And you're claiming that to be what? Because what I'm hearing is your
    thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck Heston's
    treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Sat Apr 27 15:02:22 2024
    On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or >>>>>>>>>>>>   redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>>>> her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was loaded. >>>>>>>>>
    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>> video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an >>>>>>>>> Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>> revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say >>>>>>>>> anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get the >>>>>>>>> benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>> squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>> as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I
    mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale,
    where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with
    Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane >>>>>>>> aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to
    whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to >>>>>>> pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as
    the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out
    of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two
    together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man
    evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to >>>>>> his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an asshole >>>>> doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers weren't
    either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of sick fucks, >>>>> and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the favor of
    dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full dipshit
    mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I remember
    watching this thing they showed kids with a character called Eddie
    Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had merit then,
    that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented themselves
    into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could profit by
    selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you don't get this >>>>> I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean
    so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive.


    And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is your thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck Heston's
    treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sat Apr 27 17:09:12 2024
    On 2024-04-26 08:30:43 +0000, Ubiquitous said:

    In article <v0ec7v$36anb$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
    On 2024-04-25 19:06:46 +0000, moviePig said:
    On 4/25/2024 2:01 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 17:12:03 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    On 2024-04-23 17:04:10 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a Baldwin Shot to the >>>>>>>> jaw.



    https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q

    "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called Crackhead >>>>>>> Barney & Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    They showed it on TMZ Live, from "why did you shoot that girl" to "say >>>>>> Free Palestine...say it just once"?

    She's gonna ambush the wrong person one of these days, probably from >>>>>> her own hood.

    What is it with this thing protesters do these days where they demand >>>>> their target repeat a phrase? They did this to Occasional-Cortex and now >>>>> Alec Baldwin-- in both cases they wanted them to recite "Free
    Palestine".

    Even if Baldwin doesn't believe it, she wants him to just say it. If >>>>> you're a normal person and you watch that, you think, what value is
    there in making him say it?

    I'm not sure what she intended. I'm sure someone would clip out his
    just saying the phrase and use that to show more support for Palestine >>>> but I'm not sure if that was her point. More likely it's just the hot
    phrase that can generate clicks so she's using it. After all she can
    use it as a title to draw in the clicks "Alec Baldwin says Free
    Palestine!"

    Let's say you succeed and he says the phrase. He's only saying it
    because you have hectored and harassed him into saying it and he figures >>>>> you'll go away if he does. He's only saying it because you won't shut >>>>> up, not because he believes it. You haven't changed his mind or
    anything. He's just repeating a phrase that you have assigned to him. >>>>> What do you get out of that? What does that accomplish? What's the
    point?

    The clicks are all that matters.

    They did this during the BLM Summer of Love riots, too. They'd burst >>>>> into restaurants and surround white people eating dinner and demand
    that they say "black lives matter".

    My response as a nobody who doesn't have a social media following
    would be to say "Black lives don't matter" just to watch them lose
    their minds. Demanding any sort of comment from me isn't going to get
    the desired response unless I'm in fear of damage to my person.

    Leftists seem to take this approach on every issue, in every situation. >>>>> It seems intellectually adjacent to the pronoun stuff with the troons. >>>>> You *must* say the words they want regardless of whether you believe >>>>> them or not.

    Not only don't they care if you actually believe the words, they almost >>>>> *prefer* that you not believe them. Because that shows their power over >>>>> you. If you believed the words, then they haven't really exercised any >>>>> power over you, but if they can make you say shit you don't believe in >>>>> because they've scared or intimidated you into doing so, then they have >>>>> bright line evidence of the power they wield.

    Power that amounts to nothing in the real world. Maybe it makes them
    feel good but it is only going to make people turn against them and
    their ideas. It's like winning the battle at the cost of losing the
    war.

    I doubt there's evidence this is the province of "leftists".

    I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing
    "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.

    Your understanding is wrong.

    Well bubba, he certainly DID do ambush interviews for O'Reilly at one
    point, whether or not it was the beginning of his career at Fox News or
    in broadcasting in general I don't care enough about the sneering worm
    to look up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sun Apr 28 05:19:10 2024
    On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast,
    rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>>>>> her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>> loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>> video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an >>>>>>>>>> Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>> revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say >>>>>>>>>> anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>> squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>> as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>> mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with
    Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane >>>>>>>>> aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to >>>>>>>> pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as >>>>>>>> the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out >>>>>>>> of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two
    together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man
    evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to >>>>>>> his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an
    asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of
    sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the
    favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full
    dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character
    called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had
    merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could
    profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you
    don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean >>>> so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive.


    And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is your
    thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck Heston's
    treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.


    So what you're saying is the guy who belongs to the "pull yourself up by
    the bootstraps" party was in a lot of emotional pain there? Is this
    some sort of exercise in disingenuousness? Hell, no gun was pulled from
    his cold dead hands, why didn't he brandish one at MM? Let me guess: he
    was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of
    Washington. Makes sense.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to trotsky on Sun Apr 28 11:53:31 2024
    On 4/28/2024 6:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from >>>>>>>>>>>>> striking her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>>> video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch >>>>>>>>>>> an Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>>> revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or >>>>>>>>>>> say anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>>> squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>>> as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>>> mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any
    humane aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required >>>>>>>>> to pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, >>>>>>>>> as the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is >>>>>>>>> out of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and >>>>>>>>> two together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly >>>>>>>> to his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an
    asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of >>>>>>> sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the >>>>>>> favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full >>>>>>> dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character
    called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had >>>>>>> merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could >>>>>>> profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you
    don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually
    mean so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. >>>

    And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is
    your thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck
    Heston's treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and
    harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.


    So what you're saying is the guy who belongs to the "pull yourself up by
    the bootstraps" party was in a lot of emotional pain there?  Is this
    some sort of exercise in disingenuousness?  Hell, no gun was pulled from
    his cold dead hands, why didn't he brandish one at MM?  Let me guess: he
    was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of Washington.  Makes sense.

    What I'm saying is that, if there's nothing to gain from torture, you're
    left with merely the question of whether to cheer for it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to trotsky on Sun Apr 28 18:12:48 2024
    On Apr 28, 2024 at 3:19:10 AM PDT, "trotsky" <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw.


    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"


    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination.
      "This material may not be published, broadcast, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from striking >>>>>>>>>>>>> her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>>> video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch an >>>>>>>>>>> Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>>> revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or say >>>>>>>>>>> anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are.

    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>>> squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>>> as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>>> mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any humane >>>>>>>>>> aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required to >>>>>>>>> pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, as >>>>>>>>> the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is out >>>>>>>>> of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and two >>>>>>>>> together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly to >>>>>>>> his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an
    asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of >>>>>>> sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the >>>>>>> favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full >>>>>>> dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character
    called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had >>>>>>> merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could >>>>>>> profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you >>>>>>> don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually mean >>>>> so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. >>>

    And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is your >>> thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck Heston's
    treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and
    harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.

    was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of
    Washington.

    LOL! The NRA is not and never has been bigger than the Left's Big Labor
    unions, Hutt, you delusional fuckwit.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to moviePig on Sun Apr 28 12:31:28 2024
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/28/2024 6:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q
      "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews"

    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> striking her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it.
    The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>>>> video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch >>>>>>>>>>>> an Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>>>> revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or >>>>>>>>>>>> say anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>>>> squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>>>> as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>>>> mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any >>>>>>>>>>> humane aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required >>>>>>>>>> to pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, >>>>>>>>>> as the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is >>>>>>>>>> out of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and >>>>>>>>>> two together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly >>>>>>>>> to his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an
    asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of >>>>>>>> sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the >>>>>>>> favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full >>>>>>>> dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character >>>>>>>> called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had >>>>>>>> merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could >>>>>>>> profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you >>>>>>>> don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture.


    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually >>>>>> mean so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. >>>>

    And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is
    your thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck
    Heston's treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and
    harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.


    So what you're saying is the guy who belongs to the "pull yourself up by
    the bootstraps" party was in a lot of emotional pain there?  Is this
    some sort of exercise in disingenuousness?  Hell, no gun was pulled from
    his cold dead hands, why didn't he brandish one at MM?  Let me guess: he
    was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being
    President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of
    Washington.  Makes sense.

    What I'm saying is that, if there's nothing to gain from torture, you're
    left with merely the question of whether to cheer for it.

    You won’t know if there’s nothing to gain from torture until you try.



    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 28 16:52:19 2024
    On 4/28/2024 3:31 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 4/28/2024 6:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 2:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 1:45 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/27/24 11:01 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/27/2024 4:19 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 2:03 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 1:30 PM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/26/24 11:25 AM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/26/2024 4:40 AM, trotsky wrote:
    On 4/25/24 1:53 PM, moviePig wrote:
    On 4/25/2024 12:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 23, 2024 at 2:49:02 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk"
    <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

    moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
      On 4/23/2024 1:04 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
      BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

      For once I'm on Alec's side. This girl deserved a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baldwin Shot to the jaw.

    https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1782537868654592000/pu/vid/avc1/320x568/fUPEunTyWUNbP57L.mp4?tag=12
      https://apple.news/A9M48T4LsTYOCvCmG3eY14Q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "The agitator, who hosts a show on social media called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crackhead Barney &
      Friends and is known for ambush interviews" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://www.bowiecreators.com/project/crackhead-barney-and-friends-nyc-interview-fds-festival-performance-lausanne
      "shooting and killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the RUST movie
      set in 2021 using a gun he did not know was loaded." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Nice to know they've made that determination. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   "This material may not be published, broadcast, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, or
      redistributed."
      There's dissonance in a law that forbids him from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> striking her but says
      nothing about her emphatically asking for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The article says he hit her phone, not her.

    But then the article also says he didn’t know the gun was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded.

    Do you realize how much of an obnoxious, stupid, blithering, >>>>>>>>>>>>> idiot scumbag you
    have to be to make Alec Baldwin seem sympathetic; to create a >>>>>>>>>>>>> video that makes
    me feel sorry for Alec Baldwin? 'Cause usually when I watch >>>>>>>>>>>>> an Alec Baldwin
    video, the emotions I'm accustomed to feeling are irritation, >>>>>>>>>>>>> revulsion,
    scorn. I didn't think it was possible for someone to do or >>>>>>>>>>>>> say anything that
    would make me side with Alec Baldwin, but here we are. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    In any interaction with Alec Baldwin, you automatically get >>>>>>>>>>>>> the benefit of the
    doubt because you are not Alec Baldwin and he is. In order to >>>>>>>>>>>>> squander that
    advantage, you have to go out of your way to be as unpleasant >>>>>>>>>>>>> as humanly
    possible. And she managed to do it in less than a minute. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, really,
    quite an achievement.

    It was almost reminiscent of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE's finale, >>>>>>>>>>>> where Michael Moore hounds gun-advocate Charlton Heston around >>>>>>>>>>>> his own home. Later we learned that Heston was dealing with >>>>>>>>>>>> Alzheimer's, but even on its own the scene undercuts any >>>>>>>>>>>> humane aspect to Moore's message.


    I mean really, you can convolute the fuck out of things but to >>>>>>>>>>> whine about a fuckhead who smiles about people being required >>>>>>>>>>> to pry the gun out of his "cold dead hands" (or skeletal bones, >>>>>>>>>>> as the case may now be) vs the granddaddy of mass shootings is >>>>>>>>>>> out of whack even by your standards.  How do you put two and >>>>>>>>>>> two together and keep coming up with fifty million?

    The point is that Moore's visible torture of a decrepit old man >>>>>>>>>> evoked an instinctive viewer-response that transcended
    policy/politics.  It was a simple failure of technique, costly >>>>>>>>>> to his persuasiveness.


    Speak for yourself.  Just because you are sympathetic to an >>>>>>>>> asshole doesn't mean the bulk of the audience was.  The reviewers >>>>>>>>> weren't either.  The NRA transformed themselves into a bunch of >>>>>>>>> sick fucks, and Heston was the head asshole before he did us the >>>>>>>>> favor of dying. Fuck you for even thinking that and being in full >>>>>>>>> dipshit mode.  I used to hang out with a guy who owned guys and I >>>>>>>>> remember watching this thing they showed kids with a character >>>>>>>>> called Eddie Eagle, teaching kids about gun safety.  The NRA had >>>>>>>>> merit then, that was back in the early 90s.  Then they reinvented >>>>>>>>> themselves into a lobbying organization so the gun industry could >>>>>>>>> profit by selling more and more guns.  They are scum.  If you >>>>>>>>> don't get this I feel sorry for you.

    I suppose this becomes a matter of how one feels about torture. >>>>>>>

    It's not that hard to make a distinction between harassment and
    torture.   Try harder.  I know you know what the words actually >>>>>>> mean so stop fucking around.

    The distinction is a matter of degree.  What's the same is the motive. >>>>>

    And you're claiming that to be what?  Because what I'm hearing is
    your thoughts are so fucked up and twisted that you think Chuck
    Heston's treatment was more heinous than the massacre at Columbine.

    Without any material (and, even then, likely dubious) aim, torture and >>>> harassment are merely about delighting in causing someone pain.


    So what you're saying is the guy who belongs to the "pull yourself up by >>> the bootstraps" party was in a lot of emotional pain there?  Is this
    some sort of exercise in disingenuousness?  Hell, no gun was pulled from >>> his cold dead hands, why didn't he brandish one at MM?  Let me guess: he >>> was just a doddering old fool at that point and just lucked out by being >>> President of the biggest lobbying organization in the history of
    Washington.  Makes sense.

    What I'm saying is that, if there's nothing to gain from torture, you're
    left with merely the question of whether to cheer for it.

    You won’t know if there’s nothing to gain from torture until you try.

    Well, I suppose there could be some aerobic benefit...

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Wed May 1 04:30:47 2024
    In article <v0jt28$jq6p$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:
    On 2024-04-26 08:30:43 +0000, Ubiquitous said:
    super70s@super70s.invalid wrote:

    I understand Jesse Watters started his (in)auspicious career doing
    "ambushes" for Bill O'Reilly.

    Your understanding is wrong.

    Well bubba, he certainly DID do ambush interviews for O'Reilly at one
    point, whether or not it was the beginning of his career at Fox News or
    in broadcasting in general I don't care enough about the sneering worm
    to look up.

    IOW, I was correct.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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