• Pro-police: Illegal marijuana grow operation seized in Maine

    From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 21 20:12:50 2024
    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
    all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    A number of years ago, a suburb's municipal ordinance compelled
    homeowners to have smart meters via building and zoning codes. One
    homeowner, who had the nerve to expect privacy, fought city hall but the judgment went against her.

    3) Smell of marijuana

    Ok. That one I'll buy.

    It says that criminals think they'll arouse less suspicion if they grow
    in states in which licensed growing is legal, to distribute in states in
    which growing is still illegal.

    https://apnews.com/article/illicit-marijuana-operation-charges-maine-ad17b4bf2cab5cf4379fac394045335b

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Sun Apr 21 18:56:57 2024
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
    unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
    electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
    all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live >independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
    from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
    be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living >_code_ordinances.html#

    That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
    basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
    water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
    to near $0.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Apr 21 15:21:39 2024
    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
    all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
    from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
    be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living _code_ordinances.html#

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Sun Apr 21 16:18:52 2024
    Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in electrical consumption but those were monthly records.

    Not here. Here SRP only checked the meters once or twice a year and they
    had an algorithm that made up what they thought you should pay.


    These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home
    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
    all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    A number of years ago, a suburb's municipal ordinance compelled
    homeowners to have smart meters via building and zoning codes. One
    homeowner, who had the nerve to expect privacy, fought city hall but the judgment went against her.

    3) Smell of marijuana

    Ok. That one I'll buy.

    It says that criminals think they'll arouse less suspicion if they grow
    in states in which licensed growing is legal, to distribute in states in which growing is still illegal.

    https://apnews.com/article/illicit-marijuana-operation-charges-maine-ad17b4bf2cab5cf4379fac394045335b




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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to shawn on Sun Apr 21 16:27:53 2024
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
    unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
    electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits, >>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
    independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
    from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
    be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
    _code_ordinances.html#

    That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
    basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
    water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
    to near $0.


    There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity
    turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the account.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 21 20:39:28 2024
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:27:53 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an >>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in >>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits, >>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
    independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
    from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or >>> be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living >>> _code_ordinances.html#

    That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
    utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
    basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
    water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
    to near $0.


    There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity >turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the >account.

    Ah, but if you don't pay it then they cut off the electricity and
    water you weren't intending to use any way. Win Win

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Apr 22 02:23:35 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an >>unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in >>electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    I'm sure the Russians have never met a system they cannot hack.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits, >>all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live >independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
    from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
    be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living_code_ordinances.html

    Oh my ghod

    Why is the magistrate required to enforce an international code? Why
    would this be in the code to begin with?

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to shawn on Sun Apr 21 21:09:10 2024
    On 4/21/2024 3:56 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
    unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
    electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits, >>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
    independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction >>from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
    be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living
    _code_ordinances.html#

    That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
    basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
    water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
    to near $0.

    True, but what about access to the city's sewer system? Unless she's got
    a septic tank.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 22 02:51:36 2024
    On 4/21/24 5:21 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an
    unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in
    electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home

    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits,
    all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction
    from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating
    her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or
    be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living _code_ordinances.html#


    Hm, it's probably just a coincidence that this is a state with one of
    the shittiest right wing assholes in the country for a governor, right?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Mon Apr 22 11:55:22 2024
    In article <nccb2jpjlm0vllriq09n0jo12p7f51mh3d@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:27:53 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 15:21:39 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <v03s02$fsao$1@dont-email.me>,
    "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    In Maine, in which those holding a state license may grow marijuana, an >>>> unlicensed grow operation was busted.

    Why were police suspicious?

    1) Cardboard-covered windows

    Yeah, 'cuz no one who wants to maintain privacy is ever not doing
    something illegal.

    2) High electricity consumption

    Serves the perpretrators right for not going green with solar and
    battery storge and staying entirely off grid.

    Gotta love those smart meters. Now, I don't think there was privacy in >>>> electrical consumption but those were monthly records. These meters
    allow remote access and provide detailed real-time analysis of
    electrical consumption. This helps burglars know when you aren't home >>>
    Well, burglars presumably don't have access to the Dept of Water and
    Power's usage meters.

    and gives police all sorts of interesting information about your habits, >>>> all of which are presumed to be crimes.

    And you can't even choose not to be hooked up to their surveillance
    system.

    Government is increasingly cracking down on anyone who tries to live
    independently and free of "the system".

    Like the woman in Cape Coral, Florida, who was threatened with eviction >>> from her own home for daring to live "off the grid". She was generating >>> her own electricity and using a rainwater shower and said she had no
    need for city utilities. The court ordered her to hook up to the grid or >>> be evicted.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/044102_Orwellian_nightmare_off-the-grid_living >>> _code_ordinances.html#

    That is ridiculous. Though presumably she doesn't have to use the city
    utilities since she has her own. Though she will still have to pay the
    basic access costs even if she never uses any of the city's power or
    water. If the sewer bill is based off of water usage that should drop
    to near $0.

    There’s a minimum charge plus Usage. Even if you have your electricity >turned off completely it still cost like 15 or $20 a month just to have the >account.

    Ah, but if you don't pay it then they cut off the electricity and
    water you weren't intending to use any way. Win Win

    Yeah, I imagine there are plenty of people in Florida who don't pay
    their electric bill and get cut off, but they're not all evicted from
    their own homes for it.

    Seems like this woman has been targeted specifically for her audacity to
    show she doesn't need the government.

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