• "Speak Out Loudly Against This Evil": Internet Erupts Over Biden Declar

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 04:30:44 2024
    Conservatives over the weekend voiced their outrage following news of
    President Joe Biden declaring Easter Sunday as “Transgender Day of
    Visibility.”

    Biden’s Friday proclamation said that “all Americans” should join in lifting
    up “the lives and voices of transgender people throughout our Nation” and
    work toward “eliminating violence and discrimination based on gender
    identity.”

    “Biden is banning religious symbols from Easter celebrations at the White House, while flying the trans flag and declaring Easter Sunday to be ‘Trans Visibility Day,” Donald Trump Jr. reacted online. “This is the left’s new religion. They want people worshiping the trans flag instead of God. They
    must be stopped.”

    Notably, the White House has banned religious themed Easter egg designs for
    an annual art contest.

    Biden is banning religious symbols from Easter celebrations at the
    White House, while flying the trans flag and declaring Easter Sunday
    to be "Trans Visibility Day."

    This is the left's new religion. They want people worshiping the
    trans flag instead of God. They must be stopped.
    pic.twitter.com/vVTZf7t5M7

    — Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) March 30, 2024

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    Walsh preemptively tackled excuses for the declaration, writing, “The excuse will be that ‘Transgender Day of Visibility’ is a fixed ‘holiday’ that always falls on March 31. The problem with that excuse is that the president does
    not need to issue any proclamation recognizing it and no president has recognized it until Biden two years ago. He may not decide the date for this fake bullshit holiday but he does decide to officially proclaim it.”

    The excuse will be that “Transgender Day of Visibility” is a fixed
    “holiday” that always falls on March 31. The problem with that excuse
    is that the president does not need to issue any proclamation
    recognizing it and no president has recognized it until Biden two
    years ago. He…

    — Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) March 30, 2024

    Morning Wire cultural reporter Megan Basham asserted that Easter Sunday is “resurrection day,” not “trans visibility day,” adding, “We will not bow to
    the new gods of your new religion.”

    The Biden White House has declared Easter Sunday “trans visibility
    day.” No. It is resurrection day. We will not bow to the new gods of
    your new religion.

    https://t.co/noncExXg1D pic.twitter.com/1hsOV89FIl

    — Megan Basham (@megbasham) March 30, 2024

    “Another purposeful slam on faith from a White House that demeaned the Christian victims of the trans terrorist attack in Nashville,” conservative Dana Loesch posted. “No. It’s Resurrection Day. Easter Sunday. We do not acknowledge idols.”

    Another purposeful slam on faith from a White House that demeaned
    the Christian victims of the trans terrorist attack in Nashville.
    No. It’s Resurrection Day. Easter Sunday. We do not acknowledge
    idols. pic.twitter.com/TygNyjWLQ3

    — Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) March 30, 2024

    “Joe Biden replacing Easter with ‘trans day of visibility’ while banning the [cross] from the White House egg hunt — sick and demonic,” congressional candidate Blake Masters wrote. “But we know who wins in the end — indeed
    today is the day our Lord descended into Hades and gained the final victory over Death. Glory to Jesus Christ!”

    Joe Biden replacing Easter with "trans day of visibility" while
    banning the ?? from the White House egg hunt — sick and demonic.
    But we know who wins in the end — indeed today is the day our Lord
    descended into Hades and gained the final victory over Death. Glory
    to Jesus Christ!

    — Blake Masters (@bgmasters) March 30, 2024

    Conservative Greg Price criticized the White House for its routine attacks against Christians:

    The Biden White House:

    – Banned religious symbols from their Easter egg event

    – Declared Easter Sunday “trans day of visibility.”

    – Prosecuted pro-lifers for praying outside abortion clinics.

    – Sent FBI raids to the homes of pro-life activists

    – Sent FBI agents to spy on Latin masses

    – Did nothing when churches and religious pregnancy centers were
    burned when Roe was overturned.

    “How any Christian in their right mind can justify voting for Joe Biden is beyond me,” Price added.

    The Biden White House:

    – Banned religious symbols from their Easter egg event – Declared
    Easter Sunday "trans day of visibility."– Prosecuted pro-lifers for
    praying outside abortion clinics. – Sent FBI raids to the homes of
    pro-life activists

    – Sent FBI agents to spy on…

    — Greg Price (@greg_price11) March 30, 2024

    “President Biden has announced that Easter Sunday is now ‘Trans Day of Visibility,’ pushing the toxic lie that one can be born in the ‘wrong body’ & it’s ‘healthcare’ to mutilate one’s body,” prominent pro-life activist Lila Rose said. “Speak out loudly against this evil, which is destroying a whole generation of kids.”

    President Biden has announced that Easter Sunday is now “Trans Day
    of Visibility,” pushing the toxic lie that one can be born in the
    “wrong body” & it’s “healthcare” to mutilate one’s body.

    Speak out loudly against this evil, which is destroying a whole
    generation of kids.

    — Lila Rose (@LilaGraceRose) March 30, 2024

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 23:34:59 2024
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is >so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,” >Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has >chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate >transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or
    highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>anybody<< else.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 04:46:21 2024
    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is >>so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,” >>Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate >>transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always been celebrated on March 31st. It just
    so happens that this year Easter Sunday also happens to be on March
    31st. So it isn't like Biden or anyone else was doing something
    against Christianity.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to
    me.
    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    Or he's not playing politics with the subject by attempting to move
    the celebration to another day. Not that he could move the day since
    it isn't a national holiday but one that was setup by a trans advocate
    and appears to be supported by GLADD. (At least as far as I know
    there's no federal support for the day other than recognizing it
    exists.)
    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or
    highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>anybody<< else.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 04:30:50 2024
    White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Monday addressed backlash against President Joe Biden for celebrating and declaring Easter Sunday as “Transgender Day of Visibility,” dismissing the controversy as intentional “misinformation” from conservatives.

    Biden and his White House not only issued the proclamation on Friday, but
    also issued numerous posts on social media on Easter Sunday to celebrate trans-identifying Americans. Notably, President Biden is the only president
    to ever recognize “Transgender Day of Visibility” with a presidential proclamation.

    Still, Jean-Pierre contended that the controversy was actually “misinformation,” arguing that “Transgender Day of Visibility” just so
    happened to have fallen on the holy Christian day, and Biden was right to celebrate transgenderism in numerous posts and the proclamation.

    “Every year for the past several years on March 31, Transgender Day of Visibility is marked,” she told the press. “Easter falls on different Sundays every year, and this year it happened to coincide with Transgender Visibility Day.”

    “What we’ve been hearing out there [is] a lot of misinformation done on purpose,” she accused. “It is dishonest what we have heard the past 24 hours. It is untrue,” the press secretary claimed.

    Jean-Pierre also said Biden is a “Christian who celebrates Easter with
    family” and “stands for bringing people together and upholding the dignity
    and freedoms of every American,” adding that it’s “unsurprising” politicians
    on the Right “are seeking to divide and weaken our country with cruel,
    hateful, and dishonest rhetoric.”

    “President Biden will never abuse his faith for political purposes or for profit,” Jean-Pierre said. “That is not what this administration is about.
    That is not what being a leader is about, and this misinformation out there [is] bad and it is dividing.”

    WATCH:

    AP’s Will Weissert: “So, the criticism over the Transgender Day of
    Visibility, the WH said that the President wouldn't abuse his faith
    for political purposes. Does the President think that's what
    Republicans are doing on this?”

    KJP: “I mean, look, just a couple of things. And,…
    pic.twitter.com/2svPyQ6BRk

    — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) April 1, 2024

    Biden’s Friday proclamation said “Transgender Day of Visibility” is about honoring the “extraordinary courage and contributions of transgender Americans,” adding that “transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our nation.”

    A post on the White House X account, published on Easter Sunday, said, “Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our nation. On Transgender
    Day of Visibility, our Administration honors the extraordinary courage of transgender Americans and reaffirms our commitment to forming a more perfect union – where all people are treated equally.”

    Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our nation.

    On Transgender Day of Visibility, our Administration honors the
    extraordinary courage of transgender Americans and reaffirms our
    commitment to forming a more perfect union – where all people are
    treated equally. pic.twitter.com/ElRf9l62Nk

    — The White House (@WhiteHouse) March 31, 2024

    Also on Easter Sunday, Joe Biden’s X account issued a post reading, “On Transgender Day of Visibility, we celebrate the joy, strength, and absolute courage of some of the bravest people I know. Today, we show millions of transgender and nonbinary Americans that we see them, they belong, and they should be treated with dignity and respect.”

    On Transgender Day of Visibility, we celebrate the joy, strength,
    and absolute courage of some of the bravest people I know.

    Today, we show millions of transgender and nonbinary Americans that
    we see them, they belong, and they should be treated with dignity
    and respect. pic.twitter.com/mhixHV9KC2

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) March 31, 2024

    And on Biden’s presidential X account, a post published on Easter Sunday
    said, “Today, on Transgender Day of Visibility, I have a simple message to
    all trans Americans: I see you. You are made in the image of God, and you’re worthy of respect and dignity.”

    Today, on Transgender Day of Visibility, I have a simple message to
    all trans Americans:

    I see you.

    You are made in the image of God, and you're worthy of respect and
    dignity. pic.twitter.com/ihvsJrXEyd

    — President Biden (@POTUS) March 31, 2024

    --
    "Pennsylvania, I have a message for you: Send me to Congress!"
    Joe Biden, March 8, 2024

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to lcraver@home.ca on Tue Apr 2 04:30:51 2024
    lcraver@home.ca wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is >>so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,” >>Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has >>chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate >>transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or
    highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were during
    a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

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    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Tue Apr 2 08:12:49 2024
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,” >> Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or
    highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most
    anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president. The rightwing loonies are just finding another thing to make a fuss over ana
    blame the president. Easter changes every year, I remember onces it was
    on April Fool's Day.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 10:55:53 2024
    In article <uugmqo$35bc1$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/2/24 2:34 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is," >> Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic' president has >> chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    For fuck's sake, that is possibly THE stupidest thing I've ever heard
    you say.

    The Transgender Day has been on March 31 since it was started.

    But Biden didn't have to celebrate it.

    He had a choice between pissing off 50% of the population in an election
    year vs. pissing off 0.02% of the population in an election year.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue Apr 2 10:48:18 2024
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,”
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most
    anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Apr 2 10:58:32 2024
    In article <g3hn0jtsmrpv65af6853emo99gjl4ggfp7@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is >>so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is," >>Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic' president has >>chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate >>transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always been celebrated on March 31st.

    But Biden didn't have to celebrate it.

    He had a choice between pissing off 50% of the population in an election
    year vs. pissing off 0.02% of the population in an election year

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 13:14:57 2024
    On 4/2/24 12:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,”
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or
    highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?


    I feel bad, you're too fucking stupid to use google:


    Biden was the first U.S. President to proclaim March 31 as the official
    day of transgender visibility when he did so in 2021.1 day ago

    Did Joe Biden Create Transgender Day of Visibility on Easter?
    Newsweek
    https://www.newsweek.com › ... › LGBTQ › GLAAD

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 12:58:10 2024
    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,”
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or
    highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?


    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 13:14:34 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were during
    a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from March
    10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential
    candidate particularly in an election year.

    I completely agree with you concerning Ramadan.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue Apr 2 13:24:52 2024
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet
    this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It
    is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic'
    president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Tue Apr 2 13:20:09 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:46:21 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Or he's not playing politics with the subject by attempting to move
    the celebration to another day. Not that he could move the day since
    it isn't a national holiday but one that was setup by a trans advocate
    and appears to be supported by GLADD. (At least as far as I know
    there's no federal support for the day other than recognizing it
    exists.)

    I could not disagree with you more.

    (By the way isn't it GLAAD not GLADD?)

    The reason I say I couldn't disagree more is that he knows darned well
    he's going to offend either way so as a politician whose offence is
    going to harm him more? It wouldn't have been hard for him to make
    that announcement on Friday or Saturday - something like "By the way
    don't forget that this Sunday is..." which would still be offensive
    but much less so.

    He's made his decision and as I've said numerous times I wish the GOP
    candidate was most anybody other than who it is.

    Trust me - the only way you're putting a MAGA hat on me is with
    Photoshop.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Apr 2 13:22:51 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 10:58:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always been celebrated on March 31st.

    But Biden didn't have to celebrate it.

    He had a choice between pissing off 50% of the population in an election
    year vs. pissing off 0.02% of the population in an election year

    That is specifically my point - and our friend would 'have to be as
    foolish as the MAGA faithful' not to get it.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Tue Apr 2 13:21:39 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 06:31:50 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    But now you blame fucking BIDEN when it falls on
    March 31, 2024?

    Are you insane?

    Hardly - but again Biden DIDN'T have to announce it when he did or
    even at all.

    In my world, this is called "an unforced error"

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 14:23:17 2024
    On 4/2/2024 1:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It
    is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic'
    president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    I think he just wanted to recognize one of the groups that observe this
    day. BTW, it was also Cesar Chavez day, bunsen burner day, Eiffel Tower
    day, crayon day, national farm workers day, national back up day, and
    many more. Should he have mentioned any of them instead?

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 18:00:17 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:14:34 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were during >>a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from March
    10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential >candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a
    significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 18:03:48 2024
    On 4/2/2024 4:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It
    is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic'
    president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    Maybe Rachel Crandall Crocker wanted Republicans to have a bad day...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue Apr 2 15:15:14 2024
    In article <uuht09$272n$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 1:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was >>>>>> real. It is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our
    'Catholic' president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian >>>>>> calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >>>>> stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either. >>>>>
    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing >>>>> that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I >>>>> would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months >>>>> time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    I think he just wanted to recognize one of the groups that observe this
    day. BTW, it was also Cesar Chavez day, bunsen burner day, Eiffel Tower
    day, crayon day, national farm workers day, national back up day, and
    many more. Should he have mentioned any of them instead?

    Any one or all of them would have been a better political and public
    relations choice that National Troon Day.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Tue Apr 2 15:35:31 2024
    In article
    <17c295b8f29a7c36$63100$3121036$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>,
    moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 4:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was >>>>>> real. It is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our\
    'Catholic' president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian >>>>>> calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >>>>> stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either. >>>>>
    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing >>>>> that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I >>>>> would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months >>>>> time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    Maybe Rachel Crandall Crocker wanted Republicans to have a bad day...

    And if that's the reason, all of the criticism Biden is receiving is
    justified.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Apr 2 15:41:07 2024
    In article <4svo0jlml2lcmtgtep417921617gi1m6df@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:14:34 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were during >>a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from March
    10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential >candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    Depends on what you mean by 'accepting'. If it means not caring if a
    dude wants to wear a dress everywhere he goes, then I'm already there.
    Couldn't care less.

    If it means forcing me-- increasingly under penalty of criminal law-- to actively participate in his delusions and to not only allow, but
    celebrate, dudes in dresses taking over womens' sports and wagging their
    bits in the faces of real women and young girls in showers and locker
    rooms, then Biden can fuck right the hell off. There's nothing
    "unChristian" about objecting to that. (As if I cared what is and is not "unChristian" in the first place, being an atheist and all.)

    And since when are "gay" and "trans" capitalized? They're not proper
    nouns. Is this another new politically-correct language modification
    decree from the pronoun people that I missed the memo on?

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Apr 2 19:52:45 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    lcraver@home.ca wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it
    was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our >>‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the
    Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a
    demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid
    or highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was
    either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were
    during a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    Uh, Ramadan *is* presently taking place. It's a month-long event and
    must be in its last week by now.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Apr 2 19:55:01 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:00:17 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:14:34 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it
    were during a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from
    March 10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day >Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential >candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    Or he really needs the trans-folks to vote for him so he'll do ANYTHING
    to win their support.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Apr 2 20:00:42 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:46:21 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it
    was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our >>‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the
    Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a
    demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always

    Always? As in "since the dawn of time"? Really? I would think it hasn't
    been anywhere NEAR that long.

    been celebrated on March 31st. It just
    so happens that this year Easter Sunday also happens to be on March
    31st. So it isn't like Biden or anyone else was doing something
    against Christianity.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to
    me.

    Remind me where Jesus supported trans-folk in the Bible....

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    Or he's not playing politics with the subject by attempting to move
    the celebration to another day. Not that he could move the day since
    it isn't a national holiday but one that was setup by a trans advocate
    and appears to be supported by GLADD. (At least as far as I know
    there's no federal support for the day other than recognizing it
    exists.)
    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid
    or highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was
    either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated
    most
    anybody<< else.



    --
    Rhino

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Apr 2 19:57:52 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 15:41:07 -0700
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <4svo0jlml2lcmtgtep417921617gi1m6df@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:14:34 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it
    were during a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from
    March 10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single
    day Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian
    "high holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday
    was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the
    feelings of the predominant religion in America and whichever of
    the two it is it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in
    any presidential candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't
    have the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all
    Christians have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the
    same and a significant number feel that we should be accepting of
    our fellow Gay and Trans people.

    Depends on what you mean by 'accepting'. If it means not caring if a
    dude wants to wear a dress everywhere he goes, then I'm already
    there. Couldn't care less.

    If it means forcing me-- increasingly under penalty of criminal law--
    to actively participate in his delusions and to not only allow, but celebrate, dudes in dresses taking over womens' sports and wagging
    their bits in the faces of real women and young girls in showers and
    locker rooms, then Biden can fuck right the hell off. There's nothing "unChristian" about objecting to that. (As if I cared what is and is
    not "unChristian" in the first place, being an atheist and all.)

    And since when are "gay" and "trans" capitalized? They're not proper
    nouns. Is this another new politically-correct language modification
    decree from the pronoun people that I missed the memo on?

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke" publications immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of tribute or
    recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled elites have
    now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies....


    --
    Rhino

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Apr 2 17:38:51 2024
    On 4/2/2024 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:46:21 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet
    this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it
    was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our >>>> ‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the
    Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a
    demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always

    Always? As in "since the dawn of time"? Really? I would think it hasn't
    been anywhere NEAR that long.

    been celebrated on March 31st. It just
    so happens that this year Easter Sunday also happens to be on March
    31st. So it isn't like Biden or anyone else was doing something
    against Christianity.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to
    me.

    Remind me where Jesus supported trans-folk in the Bible....

    He supported all people except hypocrites, and those who would do harm
    to others.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Tue Apr 2 21:09:21 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:38:51 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:46:21 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it
    was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our >>>>> ‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the
    Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a
    demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always

    Always? As in "since the dawn of time"? Really? I would think it hasn't
    been anywhere NEAR that long.

    been celebrated on March 31st. It just
    so happens that this year Easter Sunday also happens to be on March
    31st. So it isn't like Biden or anyone else was doing something
    against Christianity.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other
    day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for
    high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to
    me.

    Remind me where Jesus supported trans-folk in the Bible....

    He supported all people except hypocrites, and those who would do harm
    to others.

    That isn't their Jesus.

    I see it as the same way people see the bible. They get out of it
    whatever they want and ignore the rest. It is something we all do.
    Sadly I always thought the most important message coming out of the
    New Testament for anyone (believer or not) was the idea of tolerance
    for others.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Tue Apr 2 21:11:21 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:55:01 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:00:17 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:14:34 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it
    were during a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from
    March 10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential
    candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a
    significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    Or he really needs the trans-folks to vote for him so he'll do ANYTHING
    to win their support.

    He needs the sort of people that would support trans people to vote
    for him and doesn't need (or ever had a chance of getting) the votes
    of those who are anti-trans.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 22:28:40 2024
    On 4/2/2024 6:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <17c295b8f29a7c36$63100$3121036$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>,
    moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 4:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was >>>>>>>> real. It is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our\ >>>>>>>> 'Catholic' president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian >>>>>>>> calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >>>>>>> stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of >>>>>>> touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either. >>>>>>>
    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing >>>>>>> that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I >>>>>>> would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months >>>>>>> time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president. >>>>>
    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker >>>> of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    Maybe Rachel Crandall Crocker wanted Republicans to have a bad day...

    And if that's the reason, all of the criticism Biden is receiving is justified.

    Yes, he should show acceptance of trans by not daring to mention them...

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Apr 2 13:29:52 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>> On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It
    is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic'
    president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker
    of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day

    Day? There are a total of several months of LGBT* days.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From suzeeq@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Apr 2 21:36:10 2024
    On 4/2/2024 6:09 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:38:51 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:46:21 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it
    was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our >>>>>> ‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the
    Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a
    demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always

    Always? As in "since the dawn of time"? Really? I would think it hasn't
    been anywhere NEAR that long.

    been celebrated on March 31st. It just
    so happens that this year Easter Sunday also happens to be on March
    31st. So it isn't like Biden or anyone else was doing something
    against Christianity.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to
    me.

    Remind me where Jesus supported trans-folk in the Bible....

    He supported all people except hypocrites, and those who would do harm
    to others.

    That isn't their Jesus.

    Yeah, I know....

    I see it as the same way people see the bible. They get out of it
    whatever they want and ignore the rest. It is something we all do.
    Sadly I always thought the most important message coming out of the
    New Testament for anyone (believer or not) was the idea of tolerance
    for others.

    Supposedly, it is. But only mainstream christians believe that. The
    evangelical christian nationalists don't seem to understand it.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Wed Apr 3 02:01:02 2024
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:00:17 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a >significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    To the extent you're right at all I agree I'm unsympathetic to the
    idea of allowing biological males into womens' private spaces like
    restrooms and change rooms. I tend to ONLY consider what their bodies
    actually are rather than their affinity for a gender - i.e my view is
    that a man who is transitioning to womanhood hasn't done so as long as
    he's got a penis. There are enough women out there (far too many
    actually) who have had problems with sexual molestation or harassment
    that they deserve private spaces and thus I reject the idea that a
    'woman' can have a penis because to me that means they haven't
    transitioned yet.

    But that it is NOT true that merely saying you're now a woman makes
    you one.

    I don't mind there being a "Trans Visibility Day" but when it comes to
    having the President of the United States supporting it - I have to
    ask him "would you publicly support it on 4 July? If so why? If not
    why not?"

    Because the way he did it WAS a gratuitous insult and if he's ok with
    that and willing to pay the price for it then so be it.

    And if you REALLY want me to flame you say I'm a MAGA type since you
    couldn't be more wrong.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Apr 3 02:05:12 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:52:45 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Uh, Ramadan *is* presently taking place. It's a month-long event and
    must be in its last week by now.

    While you are right, I took the trouble to look up the begin and end
    dates.

    Once again I asked Google and got:

    "Every year, Muslims fast each day of Ramadan from dawn until dusk,
    for the duration of the month. This year, Ramadan is expected to begin
    in the evening on Sunday, March 10, 2024 and end on Tuesday, April 9,
    2024."

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Apr 3 02:07:22 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:55:01 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Or he really needs the trans-folks to vote for him so he'll do ANYTHING
    to win their support.

    I probably wouldn't have reacted at all had he said earlier in the
    week to come out and support them on 31 March. Saying it on Easter
    itself was the sore point.

    But then given my nationality I won't be voting for him anyhow - but I
    phrased my original answer as if it had been said by a Canadian party
    leader.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 3 04:06:22 2024
    On 4/2/24 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuht09$272n$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 1:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was >>>>>>>> real. It is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our >>>>>>>> 'Catholic' president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian >>>>>>>> calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >>>>>>> stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of >>>>>>> touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either. >>>>>>>
    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing >>>>>>> that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I >>>>>>> would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months >>>>>>> time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president. >>>>>
    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker >>>> of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    I think he just wanted to recognize one of the groups that observe this
    day. BTW, it was also Cesar Chavez day, bunsen burner day, Eiffel Tower
    day, crayon day, national farm workers day, national back up day, and
    many more. Should he have mentioned any of them instead?

    Any one or all of them would have been a better political and public relations choice that National Troon Day.


    Agreed, abject cowards like yourself are often homophobic. Many times
    it's because they're closet homosexuals.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 3 04:11:50 2024
    On 4/2/24 5:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <17c295b8f29a7c36$63100$3121036$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>,
    moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 4:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was >>>>>>>> real. It is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our\ >>>>>>>> 'Catholic' president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian >>>>>>>> calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >>>>>>> stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of >>>>>>> touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either. >>>>>>>
    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing >>>>>>> that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I >>>>>>> would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months >>>>>>> time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president. >>>>>
    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker >>>> of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    Maybe Rachel Crandall Crocker wanted Republicans to have a bad day...

    And if that's the reason, all of the criticism Biden is receiving is justified.


    It's "justitified" because your peeps on the right are too motherfucking
    stupid to know how Easter works? I guess by proxy you're too
    mothefucking stupid too. HTH

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Apr 3 02:10:42 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke" publications >immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of tribute or >recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled elites have
    now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies....

    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
    objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when applied
    to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize both
    or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is racism.

    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only
    whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different criteria
    to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 3 05:13:12 2024
    On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 02:01:02 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:00:17 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a >>significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    To the extent you're right at all I agree I'm unsympathetic to the
    idea of allowing biological males into womens' private spaces like
    restrooms and change rooms.

    I agree that letting people with male body parts use women rest rooms
    isn't something we should be doing. Until a Trans person has female
    body parts they should be using a male rest room.

    I tend to ONLY consider what their bodies
    actually are rather than their affinity for a gender - i.e my view is
    that a man who is transitioning to womanhood hasn't done so as long as
    he's got a penis. There are enough women out there (far too many
    actually) who have had problems with sexual molestation or harassment
    that they deserve private spaces and thus I reject the idea that a
    'woman' can have a penis because to me that means they haven't
    transitioned yet.

    But that it is NOT true that merely saying you're now a woman makes
    you one.

    I don't mind there being a "Trans Visibility Day" but when it comes to
    having the President of the United States supporting it - I have to
    ask him "would you publicly support it on 4 July? If so why? If not
    why not?"

    Because the way he did it WAS a gratuitous insult and if he's ok with
    that and willing to pay the price for it then so be it.

    I don't see it as an insult as I can't see Trans people as being an
    insult to Christians. To me one of the main components of Christianity
    is an acceptance of others including Trans and gay people. So given
    that the day was always on the 31st of March since it was first
    created that it was on Easter Sunday this year wasn't an affront to
    Christians and Biden just recognizing the worth of Trans people and
    their value to their communities doesn't appear to be any sort of
    affront to Christianity.


    And if you REALLY want me to flame you say I'm a MAGA type since you
    couldn't be more wrong.


    Go ahead and flame me if that makes you feel better as it's all just
    words. Nothing like a great flame fest to make people feel better.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 3 04:13:28 2024
    On 4/2/24 5:41 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4svo0jlml2lcmtgtep417921617gi1m6df@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 13:14:34 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were during
    a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from March
    10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    (As far as Good Friday goes "Friday isn't important without
    Sunday...." - in fact Christianity - St. Paul specifically - says
    that one cannot be a Christian without believing in the Easter
    narrative)

    Again Biden is a seasoned enough pol that he KNOWS what kind of
    reaction would be coming and therefore in my view both knows and
    doesn't CARE. I cannot believe he has forgotten what day Sunday was.

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential
    candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a
    significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    Depends on what you mean by 'accepting'. If it means not caring if a
    dude wants to wear a dress everywhere he goes, then I'm already there. Couldn't care less.


    Depends on what you mean by "care." In your case it means "pay
    attention to" which makes an abject fucking liar as usual. Go fuck
    yourself with your own petard.



    If it means forcing me-- increasingly under penalty of criminal law-- to actively participate in his delusions and to not only allow, but
    celebrate, dudes in dresses taking over womens' sports and wagging their
    bits in the faces of real women and young girls in showers and locker
    rooms, then Biden can fuck right the hell off. There's nothing
    "unChristian" about objecting to that. (As if I cared what is and is not "unChristian" in the first place, being an atheist and all.)

    And since when are "gay" and "trans" capitalized? They're not proper
    nouns. Is this another new politically-correct language modification
    decree from the pronoun people that I missed the memo on?

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Apr 3 04:35:12 2024
    no_offline_contact@example.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were
    during a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    Uh, Ramadan *is* presently taking place. It's a month-long event and
    must be in its last week by now.

    Didn't Senile Joke Biden put out a declartion for it?

    He doesn't appeat to have done it for Easter, just "Trans Awareness Day".

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Wed Apr 3 04:35:13 2024
    nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:

    As I said earlier, he's either ignorant or not caring of the feelings
    of the predominant religion in America and whichever of the two it is
    it isn't a personal quality I would expect to see in any presidential >>candidate particularly in an election year.

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian



    TROLL-O-METER

    5* 6* *7
    4* *8
    3* *9
    2* *10
    1* | *stuporous
    0* -*- *catatonic
    * |\ *comatose
    * \ *clinical death
    * \ *biological death
    * _\/ *demonic apparition
    * * *damned for all eternity

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  • From EGK@21:1/5 to suzeeq on Wed Apr 3 09:25:43 2024
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 21:36:10 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 6:09 PM, shawn wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 17:38:51 -0700, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 5:00 PM, Rhino wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:46:21 -0400
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> >>>>> wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>>> wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it >>>>>>> was real. It is,” Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our >>>>>>> ‘catholic’ president has chosen the highest holiday on the
    Christian calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a
    demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss >>>>> over this. The day has always

    Always? As in "since the dawn of time"? Really? I would think it hasn't >>>> been anywhere NEAR that long.

    been celebrated on March 31st. It just
    so happens that this year Easter Sunday also happens to be on March
    31st. So it isn't like Biden or anyone else was doing something
    against Christianity.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to >>>>> me.

    Remind me where Jesus supported trans-folk in the Bible....

    He supported all people except hypocrites, and those who would do harm
    to others.

    That isn't their Jesus.

    Yeah, I know....

    I see it as the same way people see the bible. They get out of it
    whatever they want and ignore the rest. It is something we all do.
    Sadly I always thought the most important message coming out of the
    New Testament for anyone (believer or not) was the idea of tolerance
    for others.

    Supposedly, it is. But only mainstream christians believe that. The >evangelical christian nationalists don't seem to understand it.

    Nor do leftists. They're all for tolerance and "rights" as long as it
    adheres to their point of view. They have no problem at all trampling on someone else views or beliefs to get their way. My gosh. Who would ever believe they're those hypocrites you mention above.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to shawn on Wed Apr 3 11:53:47 2024
    On 4/3/2024 5:13 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 02:01:02 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 18:00:17 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Or as a long time Catholic and church going Christian he doesn't have
    the same feelings that you and BTR appear to think all Christians
    have. Luckily they aren't a monolith that all think the same and a
    significant number feel that we should be accepting of our fellow Gay
    and Trans people.

    To the extent you're right at all I agree I'm unsympathetic to the
    idea of allowing biological males into womens' private spaces like
    restrooms and change rooms.

    I agree that letting people with male body parts use women rest rooms
    isn't something we should be doing. Until a Trans person has female
    body parts they should be using a male rest room.
    ...

    And persons having BOTH parts will just have to hold it (as it were)...

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to FPP on Wed Apr 3 11:56:12 2024
    On 4/3/2024 6:28 AM, FPP wrote:
    On 4/2/24 4:14 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Apr 2024 04:30:51 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were
    during
    a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from March
    10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    You ever heard of Lent?  It's a 40 day observance, so it beats Ramadan
    for length.

    40 days? Sounds like good reason to just give up...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to FPP on Wed Apr 3 18:12:18 2024
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:38:02 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 5:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke" publications
    immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of tribute or
    recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled elites have >>> now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies....

    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
    objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when applied
    to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize both
    or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is racism.

    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only
    whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different criteria
    to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.


    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Kinda simple.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to FPP on Wed Apr 3 18:14:51 2024
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:11:11 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <g3hn0jtsmrpv65af6853emo99gjl4ggfp7@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,"
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic' president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always been celebrated on March 31st.

    But Biden didn't have to celebrate it.

    He had a choice between pissing off 50% of the population in an election
    year vs. pissing off 0.02% of the population in an election year

    Maybe it's because real presidents don't single out groups to ignore and denigrate like you guys do.

    Maybe it's because he's not a bigoted transphobe like you?

    "transphobe"

    LOL!

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to FPP on Wed Apr 3 18:16:46 2024
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:02:06 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/24 1:48 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    “I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,”
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. “Our ‘catholic’ president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon.”

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain
    stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of
    touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors
    like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either.

    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing
    that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I
    would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months
    time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president.

    Set by whom?

    It's an International day of recognition.

    Says who?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to FPP on Thu Apr 4 02:26:42 2024
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:11:11 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <g3hn0jtsmrpv65af6853emo99gjl4ggfp7@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
    wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,"
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic' president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate
    transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote
    for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss
    over this. The day has always been celebrated on March 31st.

    But Biden didn't have to celebrate it.

    He had a choice between pissing off 50% of the population in an election
    year vs. pissing off 0.02% of the population in an election year

    Maybe it's because real presidents don't single out groups to ignore and denigrate like you guys do.

    Maybe it's because he's not a bigoted transphobe like you?

    https://ibb.co/R92mQX3

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Apr 3 22:31:56 2024
    On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 02:26:42 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:11:11 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/24 1:58 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <g3hn0jtsmrpv65af6853emo99gjl4ggfp7@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 01 Apr 2024 23:34:59 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet this is
    so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was real. It is,"
    Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our 'Catholic' president has
    chosen the highest holiday on the Christian calendar to celebrate >>>>>> transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    Then you would be as foolish as the MAGA faithful I see making a fuss >>>> over this. The day has always been celebrated on March 31st.

    But Biden didn't have to celebrate it.

    He had a choice between pissing off 50% of the population in an election >>> year vs. pissing off 0.02% of the population in an election year

    Maybe it's because real presidents don't single out groups to ignore and
    denigrate like you guys do.

    Maybe it's because he's not a bigoted transphobe like you?

    https://ibb.co/R92mQX3

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI_D9kwi4tY

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 04:18:34 2024
    On 4/2/24 5:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuht09$272n$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 1:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuho0k$24nb$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:

    On 4/2/2024 10:48 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <uuh79l$24mf$1@solani.org>, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On 4/1/2024 11:34 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> >>>>>>> wrote:

    "I have as low an opinion of Biden as you can possibly have and yet >>>>>>>> this is so outrageously evil that I had to check to make sure it was >>>>>>>> real. It is," Daily Wire host and author Matt Walsh said. "Our >>>>>>>> 'Catholic' president has chosen the highest holiday on the Christian >>>>>>>> calendar to celebrate transgenderism. This man is a demon."

    That's an exaggeration but no question, were I an American I'd vote >>>>>>> for anybody BUT Biden solely on the basis of that.

    I have no particular problem with him setting such a day on any other >>>>>>> day but to do it on the highest high holy day on the Christian
    calendar shows a level of insensitivity unworthy of any candidate for >>>>>>> high office. I wouldn't do it on Yom Kippur or Eid either.

    And to do it in an election year even marks it as either just plain >>>>>>> stupidity OR an allegiance to an agenda that is completely out of >>>>>>> touch with his nation.

    If you want to be president you simply have to avoid unforced errors >>>>>>> like that. Moral of the story is this move was either highly stupid or >>>>>>> highly evil and I for one wouldn't want a president who was either. >>>>>>>
    Somehow I don't see Eisenhower, Kennedy Johnson or even Nixon doing >>>>>>> that!

    Now let's be clear I'm NOT a fan of his GOP competition either so I >>>>>>> would guess there are at least 50 million Americans who in 7 months >>>>>>> time will go to the ballot box wishing either party had nominated most >>>>>>>>> anybody<< else.

    March 31 was set as transgender day long before Biden was president. >>>>>
    Set by whom?

    It was created in 2009 by transgender activist Rachel Crandall Crocker >>>> of Michigan. It's an observance day, much like Mother's Day,
    Grandparent's day, etc.

    Okay, so why does the president feel the need to celebrate this day in
    the first place, let alone on a year when it falls on Easter and is
    likely to enrage half the country? Because Rachel Crandall Crocker says
    so?

    I think he just wanted to recognize one of the groups that observe this
    day. BTW, it was also Cesar Chavez day, bunsen burner day, Eiffel Tower
    day, crayon day, national farm workers day, national back up day, and
    many more. Should he have mentioned any of them instead?

    Any one or all of them would have been a better political and public relations choice that National Troon Day.


    Well circle jerked!!

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 05:07:08 2024
    On 4/3/24 1:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:38:02 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 5:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke" publications >>>> immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of tribute or
    recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled elites have >>>> now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies....

    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
    objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when applied
    to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize both
    or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is racism.

    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only
    whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different criteria >>> to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.


    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Kinda simple.


    Do you use "totally fucking stupid" as your pronoun now?

    “When speaking of a culture, ethnicity or group of people, the name
    should be capitalized. 'Black' with a capital 'B' refers to people of
    the African diaspora. Lowercase 'black' is simply a color.” For her, capitalizing the letter is about recognition for the Black community and empowerment in her own identity.Jun 28, 2022

    Race on Campus: Should the 'B' in 'Black' Be Capitalized?
    The Chronicle of Higher Education
    https://www.chronicle.com › newsletter › race-on-campus


    What's the point of wanting to look like a hillbilly asshole all the
    time? Are the guys in your circle jerk cool with it?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to trotsky on Thu Apr 4 12:05:24 2024
    In article
    <17c30bc626bdf855$124382$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 1:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:38:02 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 5:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke" publications >>>> immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of tribute or >>>> recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled elites have
    now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies....

    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
    objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when applied >>> to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize both >>> or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is racism. >>>
    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only
    whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different criteria >>> to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.


    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Kinda simple.

    "When speaking of a culture, ethnicity or group of people, the name
    should be capitalized. 'Black' with a capital 'B' refers to people of
    the African diaspora. Lowercase 'black' is simply a color.” For her, capitalizing the letter is about recognition for the Black community and empowerment in her own identity.Jun 28, 2022

    Race on Campus: Should the 'B' in 'Black' Be Capitalized?
    The Chronicle of Higher Education

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 4 17:50:08 2024
    In article <uunecq$uqll$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/4/24 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <17c30bc626bdf855$124382$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 1:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:38:02 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 5:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke"
    publications immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some
    kind of tribute or recognition of black people. Perhaps these
    same self-styled elites have now decreed that the same must be
    done for gays and trannies....

    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
    objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when applied >>>>> to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize both >>>>> or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is racism. >>>>>
    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only >>>>> whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different
    criteria to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendi.

    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Kinda simple.

    "When speaking of a culture, ethnicity or group of people, the name
    should be capitalized. 'Black' with a capital 'B' refers to people of
    the African diaspora. Lowercase 'black' is simply a color.² For her,
    capitalizing the letter is about recognition for the Black community and >> empowerment in her own identity.Jun 28, 2022

    Race on Campus: Should the 'B' in 'Black' Be Capitalized?
    The Chronicle of Higher Education

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    Who is this "they" you keep talking about?

    The same people who capitalize black when it refers to race.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 5 04:38:27 2024
    On 4/4/24 2:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <17c30bc626bdf855$124382$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 1:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:38:02 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 5:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke" publications
    immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of tribute or >>>>>> recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled elites have
    now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies.... >>>>>
    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
    objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when applied >>>>> to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize both >>>>> or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is racism. >>>>>
    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only >>>>> whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different criteria >>>>> to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.


    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Kinda simple.

    "When speaking of a culture, ethnicity or group of people, the name
    should be capitalized. 'Black' with a capital 'B' refers to people of
    the African diaspora. Lowercase 'black' is simply a color.” For her,
    capitalizing the letter is about recognition for the Black community and
    empowerment in her own identity.Jun 28, 2022

    Race on Campus: Should the 'B' in 'Black' Be Capitalized?
    The Chronicle of Higher Education

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.


    Who the fuck is they? What the rules say and where language has evolved
    to are often two different things. Regardless, you couldn't be more disingenuous or confused. Using a small w for "white" has you rushing
    to the defense of such a thing, but someone on this group frequently
    using ebonics would have you crying like the bitch that you are. Agree
    or disagree?

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:14:50 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:14:04 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    I wonder what Jesus would say about the intolerance being exposed
    here. Sure seems to go against some of the tenets of Christianity to
    me.

    Remind me where Jesus supported trans-folk in the Bible....

    Sure!

    Luke 6:31 records Jesus saying, “Do to others as you would have them do
    to you.”

    That about cover it?

    That's more than a bit of a reach if you ask me. I'm pretty sure
    that's not what my parents were thinking of when they taught me that
    as a young child.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Fri Apr 5 11:08:16 2024
    On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 05:13:12 -0400, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    I don't see it as an insult as I can't see Trans people as being an
    insult to Christians. To me one of the main components of Christianity
    is an acceptance of others including Trans and gay people. So given
    that the day was always on the 31st of March since it was first
    created that it was on Easter Sunday this year wasn't an affront to >Christians and Biden just recognizing the worth of Trans people and
    their value to their communities doesn't appear to be any sort of
    affront to Christianity.

    For me it was more proclaiming the one while ignoring what is a far
    bigger day for far more Americans. Which is not something that in my
    opinion a president should be doing.

    And if you REALLY want me to flame you say I'm a MAGA type since you >>couldn't be more wrong.

    Go ahead and flame me if that makes you feel better as it's all just
    words. Nothing like a great flame fest to make people feel better.

    I'll flame you with the best of them if you've done something truly
    flame worthy. In this case that's the president not you.

    In any case Easter is now done for 2024. That is not of course the way
    it would have been expressed at church last Sunday but then we're not
    AT church :)

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:13:16 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:07:25 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    And if that's the reason, all of the criticism Biden is receiving is
    justified.

    He's being criticized because the Church chose it as Easter.

    Which goes back far further than TVD has been around - the formula is
    well known and is routinely done 20-30 years in advance and I'm quite
    sure you'd have no problem finding the dates through 2050 online in
    fairly short order.

    He's only being criticized for the same reason you guys want to impeach
    him. You make it up as you go along.

    No he's being criticized for emphasizing something minor and ignoring
    something major which is egregiously dumb for a politician
    particularly in an election year.

    I'm not one of those who supports impeachment which I feel has been
    invoked far too often in recent years. It's particularly silly to
    pursue in an election year when from his point of view preparing the
    face the people should be his main priority.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:19:34 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:18:53 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    In my world, this is called "an unforced error"

    Aaah... so you don't like Biden because he didn't discriminate against
    who you wanted him to?

    And that wasn't your original point. Your point was because it fell on >Easter... you're moving the goalposts in order to be outraged now.

    You can't pin it on him for picking the same day as Easter, so you've
    shifted to another excuse.

    There are so many things going on that a politician might plausibly
    showcase that one cannot reasonably call any cause that isn't
    pinpointed as "discrimination".

    If he was determined to highlight everything I suspect he'd get little
    else done.

    But no question Easter is one of the biggest ones fully up there with Presidents' Day and July 4th.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:21:40 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:28:08 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    I also suspect this announcement would not have been made if it were during >>> a Moslem holy holiday, like Ramadan.

    That's my entire point.

    (Though to be fair Ramadan is a month long and this year is from March
    10 - April 9 whereas Good Friday and Easter are both single day
    Christian days though Easter is the highest of all Christian "high
    holy days" even above Christmas.

    You ever heard of Lent? It's a 40 day observance, so it beats Ramadan
    for length.

    And outside the local congregations Lent isn't exactly a major event.
    Something like the way one minister I know put it concerning Easter:
    "Friday isn't important without Sunday"

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:24:01 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:38:02 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that only
    whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different criteria
    to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.


    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    So by that definition I should describe my sideburns as White not
    white. Or my dog as Brown not brown.

    But no question enough wokesters would consider White racist while
    promoting use of Black. Whereas I'd say capitalizing one vs the other
    is bigotted so I capitalize neither.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:30:39 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:39:06 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sure. And Trump sells bibles because he's so religious.

    Not being American I am continually mystified how American
    evangelicals feel about Trump given his marital history which isn't
    exactly what they promote. I confess I was disappointed by how quickly
    Nikki Haley was swept aside since the GOP have to get past Trump to
    move back to center-right where they really do need to be.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:33:02 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:43:21 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    Biden didn't pick the day Easter fell on this year.

    The church could have picked a date certain, like they do for
    Christmas... but they NEED Easter Sunday and Good Friday to fall on a
    certain day of the week.

    Biden celebrated the day on the day it's celebrated. It's pretty basic.

    Christianity moves the date of Easter about chiefly because the
    gospels describe it in relation to the Jewish Passover. Minor
    observances tend to be tied to the major festivals - Lent, Pentecost
    and the like

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Apr 5 11:36:15 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:53:47 -0400, moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

    I agree that letting people with male body parts use women rest rooms
    isn't something we should be doing. Until a Trans person has female
    body parts they should be using a male rest room.

    And persons having BOTH parts will just have to hold it (as it were)...

    There's a case coming to court in Canada (which has what Americans
    would call "socialized medicine") where the state-run medical system
    will pay for trans surgery under specific circumstances where the
    plaintiff is seeking state payment for a version of trans surgery
    where an artificial vagina is to be created while retaining the penis.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Apr 5 11:38:21 2024
    On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 18:12:18 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Exactly - my personal rule of thumb is to freely substitute 'white'
    for 'black' or vice versa when I hear a questionable usage. If your
    reaction is different one way vs the other way - it's racist and I
    won't use the term.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Fri Apr 5 11:15:32 2024
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:14:58 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    Well, it IS called "the Golden rule".

    Luke 6:31“Do to others as you would have them do to you.”

    Well maybe in Christianity. Though the "rule" is hardly unique to
    Christendom.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to lcraver@home.ca on Fri Apr 5 15:42:35 2024
    lcraver@home.ca wrote:
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:39:06 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    Sure. And Trump sells bibles because he's so religious.

    Not being American I am continually mystified how American
    evangelicals feel about Trump given his marital history which isn't
    exactly what they promote.

    I find the whole thing pointless because the other side is just as bad,
    if not worse.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Fri Apr 5 15:45:01 2024
    In article <uuphcm$1hp8m$2@dont-email.me>, ahk@chinet.com wrote:

    What has caused more war and a greater loss of life than forced
    religious conversion? Nothing is more evil.

    It is not Xians doing that, dude.

    --
    Islam is a peaceful religion, just as long as the women are beaten, the boys buggered and the infidels are killed.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Fri Apr 5 16:31:30 2024
    On 4/5/2024 2:36 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 11:53:47 -0400, moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

    I agree that letting people with male body parts use women rest rooms
    isn't something we should be doing. Until a Trans person has female
    body parts they should be using a male rest room.

    And persons having BOTH parts will just have to hold it (as it were)...

    There's a case coming to court in Canada (which has what Americans
    would call "socialized medicine") where the state-run medical system
    will pay for trans surgery under specific circumstances where the
    plaintiff is seeking state payment for a version of trans surgery
    where an artificial vagina is to be created while retaining the penis.

    Well, no, I don't think the govt. should be paying for sex toys...

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Apr 5 23:35:21 2024
    On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 17:50:08 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Race on Campus: Should the 'B' in 'Black' Be Capitalized?
    The Chronicle of Higher Education

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    Who is this "they" you keep talking about?

    The same people who capitalize black when it refers to race.

    And several newspapers - one of which is the New York Times who has
    said so in print.

    Again - treating blacks differently from whites is racist. And vice
    versa. I tend to look skeptically at any source that would say
    otherwise - and I totally reject the idea (made by Kendi and others)
    that ONLY whites can be racist.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to FPP on Sat Apr 6 03:16:06 2024
    On 4/4/24 6:50 PM, FPP wrote:
    On 4/4/24 3:05 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article
    <17c30bc626bdf855$124382$1768716$4ad50060@news.newsdemon.com>,
      trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 1:12 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2024 at 3:38:02 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 4/3/24 5:10 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
       On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 19:57:52 -0400, Rhino
       <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
       Probably. After Saint George of Fentanyl died, the "woke"
    publications
       immediately adopted capitalizing "black" as some kind of
    tribute or
       recognition of black people. Perhaps these same self-styled >>>>>>> elites have
       now decreed that the same must be done for gays and trannies.... >>>>>>    WHich is ridiculous. My rule is that if something would be
       objectionable when applied to whites it's objectionable when
    applied
       to blacks. In the case of capitalization it's either capitalize >>>>>> both
       or neither. Doing one without doing the same to the other is
    racism.
       And I emphatically reject the notion by Kendi and his ilk that >>>>>> only
       whites can be racist since racism is when you apply different >>>>>> criteria
       to different groups. And yes I HAVE read Kendid.

    The case for capitalizing Black has a rationale.

    If it refers to color (black hair) it's lowercase.
    If it refers to race (Black hair) it's uppercase.

    Kinda simple.

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.

    There goes your rationale.

    Kinda simple.

    "When speaking of a culture, ethnicity or group of people, the name
    should be capitalized. 'Black' with a capital 'B' refers to people of
    the African diaspora. Lowercase 'black' is simply a color.” For her,
    capitalizing the letter is about recognition for the Black community and >>> empowerment in her own identity.Jun 28, 2022

    Race on Campus: Should the 'B' in 'Black' Be Capitalized?
    The Chronicle of Higher Education

    Except they don't capitalize white when it refers to race.


    Who is this "they" you keep talking about?


    His white supremacist compatriots.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Tue Apr 9 09:46:47 2024
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:06:52 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Easter Holiday is the holiest of the entire year. Way more
    important than any of the others. The resurrection is literally the
    center of Christianity.

    Hard to get much more central than "If Christ is not risen then you
    are still in your sins and I am of all men most miserable" (I don't
    feel like looking up the reference but it's St Paul and I think it
    illustrates just how central Easter is to Christianity)

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to FPP on Tue Apr 9 09:49:07 2024
    On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:18:16 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    Joe is a Catholic. Easter isn't ONE of the biggest, for him.

    Which is why I previously described Easter as the highest of all
    Christian high holy days.

    In any case, it's in our tail lights now, not coming up.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to FPP on Thu Apr 11 16:59:20 2024
    On 4/9/24 9:23 AM, FPP wrote:
    On 4/5/24 2:13 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 06:07:25 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

    And if that's the reason, all of the criticism Biden is receiving is
    justified.

    He's being criticized because the Church chose it as Easter.

    Which goes back far further than TVD has been around - the formula is
    well known and is routinely done 20-30 years in advance and I'm quite
    sure you'd have no problem finding the dates through 2050 online in
    fairly short order.

    He's only being criticized for the same reason you guys want to impeach
    him.  You make it up as you go along.

    No he's being criticized for emphasizing something minor and ignoring
    something major which is egregiously dumb for a politician
    particularly in an election year.

    I'm not one of those who supports impeachment which I feel has been
    invoked far too often in recent years. It's particularly silly to
    pursue in an election year when from his point of view preparing the
    face the people should be his main priority.


    Nope.  Impeachment is for high crimes like treason and bribery and other misdemeanors.


    That's not accurate. Impeachment is for "high crimes and misdemeanors."
    It's deliberately vague because it's completely subjective. It drives
    me crazy When I hear Congress people say "the guy committed high crime
    and misdemeanors" as if there was an actual definition of such.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/what-does-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors-actually-mean/600343/

    “High crimes and misdemeanors” is surely the most troublesome,
    misleading phrase in the U.S. Constitution. Taken at face value, the
    words seem to say that impeachable conduct is limited to “crimes”—offenses defined by criminal statutes and punishable in
    criminal courts. That impression is reinforced by the fact that the
    phrase follows the obviously criminal “treason” and “bribery” in Article
    II’s list of the kinds of conduct for which the “President, Vice
    President and all civil officers” may be impeached.

    But this is not, in fact, what the Constitution requires. “High crimes
    and misdemeanors” is not, and has never been, limited to indictable criminality. Nonetheless, despite centuries of learning on the point,
    there the phrase sits, begging to be taken at its delusory face value.


    Trump was impeached because he was committing impeachable offenses ,
    pure and simple.  He was extorting a country to get dirt on a political opponent.

    He was impeached for leading an insurrection, and trying to overthrow
    the government.

    Neither was unwarranted, nor too far.  It's exactly what impeachment was designed for.  For the first time in our history, Trump got members of
    his own party to vote to remove him in the Senate.

    That never happened before.  SEVEN voted to convict Trump... another first.  They weren't being partisan - the opposite in fact.


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