On 4/1/2024 3:10 PM, super70s wrote:
On 2024-04-01 12:46:31 +0000, Lou Bricano said:
On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:
On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
typed:
On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there
In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!
Which is more responsive to its residents?
In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.
Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public
schools
Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.
and used to pay for
private
schooling. Is that a problem?
It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending. >>>>>>>Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>>>>> best manner possible?
If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>>>>Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo.... >>>>>>>
*are* alternatives to government schools.
Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools
away.
Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>>>>That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.
I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out to
the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.
... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ... >>>>>>>Like Fani Willis?
? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.
...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably
is).
Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.
Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?
Yup. You're a statist.
And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.
Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating schools
does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In fact, fascists
probably *want* the government to own and operate schools, so they can >>>>> ensure the fascist indoctrination.
Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families
for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy groceries
in government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks
and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government
clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic benefit cards and let them buy
the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction >>>>> should be no different.
This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples and
oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance program >>>> already in existence.
There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than there
should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income people or >>> government commissaries where lower income people are forced to shop for >>> groceries. All public financing of schooling should be through vouchers. >>>
Aren't you pro-choice?
<laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>>> vouchers.
<laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>> vouchers.
You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private >>>>>>>> schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>>>>> the detriment of public schools.
I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy >>>>>>> schools because vouchers are unavailable?
What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can >>>>>> easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?
School vouchers are means tested.
Not in my state.
Yes, they are.
No they aren't.
Since you won't identify the state so it can be verified, we'll assume you're lying.
On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 22:03:40 -0700, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> wrote:
On 4/1/2024 3:10 PM, super70s wrote:
On 2024-04-01 12:46:31 +0000, Lou Bricano said:
On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:
On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
typed:
On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there
In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
<super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
not National government!
Which is more responsive to its residents?
In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.
Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public
schools
Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.
and used to pay for
private
schooling. Is that a problem?
It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending. >>>>>>>>Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>>>>>> best manner possible?
If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend itSure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo.... >>>>>>>>
on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>>>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>>>>>
*are* alternatives to government schools.
Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools
away.
Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>>>>>That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.
I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out to
the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.
... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ... >>>>>>>>Like Fani Willis?
? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.
...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably
is).
Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.
Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?
Yup. You're a statist.
And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.
Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating schools
does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In fact, fascists
probably *want* the government to own and operate schools, so they can >>>>>> ensure the fascist indoctrination.
Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families
for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy groceries
in government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks
and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government
clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic benefit cards and let them buy
the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction >>>>>> should be no different.
This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples and
oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance program
already in existence.
There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than there
should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income people or >>>> government commissaries where lower income people are forced to shop for >>>> groceries. All public financing of schooling should be through vouchers. >>>>
Aren't you pro-choice?
<laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>> vouchers.
<laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>>> vouchers.
You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private >>>>>>>>> schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>>>>>> the detriment of public schools.
I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy >>>>>>>> schools because vouchers are unavailable?
What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can >>>>>>> easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?
School vouchers are means tested.
Not in my state.
Yes, they are.
No they aren't.
Since you won't identify the state so it can be verified, we'll assume you're lying.
In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry for food right now
(Luke 6:21a) and hope you, Lou, and others reading this, also have a
healthy appetite for food right now too.
So how are you ?
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