• GOP Attack On School Lunches

    From Voice of Authority@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 19:14:05 2024
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    Eight states offer all students,
    regardless of household income,
    free school meals - and more
    states are trending in the
    direction. But while people across
    the country move to feed school
    children, congressional Republicans
    are looking to stop the cause.

    The budget - co-signed by more
    than 170 House Republicans - calls
    to eliminate "the Community
    Eligibility Provision (CEP) from
    the School Lunch Program." The CEP,
    the Republicans note, "allows
    certain schools to provide free
    school lunches regardless of the
    individual eligibility of each
    student."

    https://theintercept.com/2024/03/21/house-republicans-ban-universal-scho >ol-lunches/


    I'm surprised they haven't passed laws prohibiting children from attending school because an educated citizen won't vote for them. Most say they'd better hand some tax cuts over to rich people or they'll move to Saudi Arabia where they're are no taxes.


    Donald Trump still king of the ‘poorly educated’

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/29/donald-trump-still-king- poorly-educated/

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Voice of Authority on Fri Mar 22 20:47:05 2024
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    Voice of Authority <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote in news:utkl9s$33g89$1@dont-email.me:

    Eight states offer all students,
    regardless of household income,
    free school meals - and more
    states are trending in the
    direction. But while people across
    the country move to feed school
    children, congressional Republicans
    are looking to stop the cause.

    The budget - co-signed by more
    than 170 House Republicans - calls
    to eliminate "the Community
    Eligibility Provision (CEP) from
    the School Lunch Program." The CEP,
    the Republicans note, "allows
    certain schools to provide free
    school lunches regardless of the
    individual eligibility of each
    student."

    https://theintercept.com/2024/03/21/house-republicans-ban-universal-sch
    o ol-lunches/


    I'm surprised they haven't passed laws prohibiting children from
    attending school because an educated citizen won't vote for them.
    Most say they'd better hand some tax cuts over to rich people or
    they'll move to Saudi Arabia where they're are no taxes.


    Donald Trump still king of the ‘poorly educated’

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/29/donald-trump-still-kin
    g- poorly-educated/


    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public Schools of
    any ability to actually educate, fund those private schools that
    indoctrinate.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 22 14:59:43 2024
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    In article <utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Voice of Authority <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote in news:utkl9s$33g89$1@dont-email.me:

    Eight states offer all students,
    regardless of household income,
    free school meals - and more
    states are trending in the
    direction. But while people across
    the country move to feed school
    children, congressional Republicans
    are looking to stop the cause.

    The budget - co-signed by more
    than 170 House Republicans - calls
    to eliminate "the Community
    Eligibility Provision (CEP) from
    the School Lunch Program." The CEP,
    the Republicans note, "allows
    certain schools to provide free
    school lunches regardless of the
    individual eligibility of each
    student."

    https://theintercept.com/2024/03/21/house-republicans-ban-universal-sch
    o ol-lunches/


    I'm surprised they haven't passed laws prohibiting children from
    attending school because an educated citizen won't vote for them.
    Most say they'd better hand some tax cuts over to rich people or
    they'll move to Saudi Arabia where they're are no taxes.


    Donald Trump still king of the ?poorly educated?

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/29/donald-trump-still-kin
    g- poorly-educated/


    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public Schools of
    any ability to actually educate, fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    What a load. Public school is run by your handlers.

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  • From GEO@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Mar 22 22:03:57 2024
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    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public Schools of
    any ability to actually educate, fund those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

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  • From lloyd@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 00:43:43 2024
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    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

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  • From 68hx.1805@21:1/5 to GEO on Fri Mar 22 20:52:31 2024
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    On 3/22/24 6:03 PM, GEO wrote:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public Schools of
    any ability to actually educate, fund those private schools that
    indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.


    I have noticed that a rapidly-increasing number of the
    larger universities have HAD IT with "public ed" and
    their "Everyone Gets An 'A'" bullshit. They're getting
    nothing but doofuses now - who STILL expect 'A's for
    just bothering to show up once in awhile. It ruins the
    value of their degrees/reps.

    US *business* is in deep shit because of this too.
    We've seen what happens at Boeing ... it'll be the
    same everywhere. Soon the lights will go out, the
    toilets will back up, the water won't flow, the buildings
    won't stay up, the delivery trucks won't deliver - and
    then it's all over. As effective as a huge nuclear war.

    Time to view "Woke" ed as what it is - an ENEMY
    ATTACK.

    US biz *has* to hire from overseas, from countries
    not much into "Woke". S.Korea might be best, though
    I did hear a rumor awhile back that the govt might
    try to retain anyone under about age 45 because of
    the demographic crisis there. Eastern Europe, including
    unfortunately Russia, produce good STEM people.

    China and Taiwan do as well. India - SOMETIMES good
    but CHEATING is rampant at Indian universities -
    there have been big police 'stings' of late. South
    America ... well ... find Richard Feynman's account
    of (attempted) teaching in Brazil .........

    Sometime back, the USA decided that we'd "made it",
    that there would be no more "history", and we could
    just cruise oblivious forever on the labors of our
    predecessors - rock-n-roll all night, party every day.
    We'll that was badly BADLY WRONG. Instead we've
    been handing the world over to barbarians of the
    worst sort.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to GEO on Sat Mar 23 02:44:27 2024
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    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.


    More conservaturd propaganda. And you're obsessed with other people's sex. Don't be following people into the restroom.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to lloyd on Sat Mar 23 02:45:12 2024
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    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.


    Just another pervert chimes in.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to lloyd on Sat Mar 23 02:53:16 2024
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    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country Club
    to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public parks.'

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:46:09 2024
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    In article <utlfnn$3d8um$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.


    Just another pervert chimes in.

    We don't allow men into womens restrooms.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:45:39 2024
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    In article <utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.


    More conservaturd propaganda. And you're obsessed with other people's sex. Don't be following people into the restroom.

    Why not? The left seems to think that's ok.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:48:30 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country Club
    to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:49:31 2024
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    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 23 14:45:51 2024
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    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 23 14:48:02 2024
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    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Mar 23 14:58:26 2024
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    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont- email.me:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?


    https://imgur.com/XngEwEG

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 07:57:00 2024
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    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 11:07:53 2024
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    In article <utmptc$3mj2s$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65fedd22$0$6400 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlfnn$3d8um$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.


    Just another pervert chimes in.

    We don't allow men into womens restrooms.

    How do you know they are a "man"? You going to check in everyone's underware? And why just those using the womens restrooms?

    Nice spin. You have nothing. Planet Fitness tried that and lost big.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 11:08:24 2024
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    In article <utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    Why didn't you answer the question?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 11:09:04 2024
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    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 23 13:57:42 2024
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    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country Club >> to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my
    property taxes reduced by not paying for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sun Mar 24 02:36:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 02:56:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0c6a$0$4189$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmptc$3mj2s$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65fedd22$0$6400
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlfnn$3d8um$2@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.


    Just another pervert chimes in.

    We don't allow men into womens restrooms.

    How do you know they are a "man"? You going to check in everyone's
    underware? And why just those using the womens restrooms?

    Nice spin. You have nothing. Planet Fitness tried that and lost big.


    Planet Fitness tried what? Were they checking in people's underware?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 02:59:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0c88$0$4188 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2
    @news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh!
    and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    Why didn't you answer the question?


    What?! Are you trying to change the subject? Asking about Trade classe?
    Trade Classes are now in Community Colleges - the High Schools have been stripped of funding.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 03:01:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have
    swapped for thousands of years.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Sun Mar 24 03:02:54 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 21:22:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uto3ka$96f$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    It's true.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 21:23:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uto4ul$gqq$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0c88$0$4188 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2
    @news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh!
    and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    Why didn't you answer the question?


    What?! Are you trying to change the subject? Asking about Trade classe? Trade Classes are now in Community Colleges - the High Schools have been stripped of funding.

    Why is that?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 23 21:24:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uto52c$gqq$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have
    swapped for thousands of years.

    So? That doesn't make it right.

    Murder has been around a long time too. That don't make it right.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 07:07:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have
    swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 07:08:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Mar 24 08:53:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 8:46 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:57:42 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    Where does the Constitution forbid the Federal Government from participating in Education?

    Oh dear God, another one who thinks govt is free to do as it wishes
    unless it's forbidden by the constitution.

    How many states would gladly give up all Federal education money in order to comply with
    your version of the C?

    Swill

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 07:32:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <o0800j14ctedjkbv7kk9cf7n9s0alna57h@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:57:42 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    Where does the Constitution forbid the Federal Government from participating in Education?

    How many states would gladly give up all Federal education money in order to comply with
    your version of the C?

    Like black male? Do it our way or lose the funding?

    Swill

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 24 15:42:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have >>swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back then, 3
    sexes = male, female, castrati

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 12:02:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went >>>to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have >>>swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back then, 3 >sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply because
    he considers doing it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sun Mar 24 09:23:46 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.elections

    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 04:34:38 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    That wasn't a government decision.

    That said, you're correct. To little attention is paid to the basics in early grades. One
    and two should be about reading and arithmetic. If you can get them into third grade with
    high reading skills and solid understanding of number basic, you can rapidly accelerate
    them through the rest of the grade levels.

    Teach them to read!

    I was reading confidently when I entered grade 1. The main problem I
    had was that being tall I was placed at the back of the classroom and
    my teacher noticed early on that (a) I could read, (b) I was VERY good
    at verbal questions but challenged on written questions (e.g. on the blackboard).

    Fortunately for me my teacher diagnosed my problem and called my
    mother telling her that her son needed an eye exam and probably
    glasses. These days I might be diagnosed as "gifted / learning
    disabled" and prescribed all sorts of medications to solve my problem.

    Since we were on the north shore we had to go downtown to the
    optometrist and the day I got my glasses on the way home I asked my
    mother what those things were in the water. She was shocked as she
    only realized then that I had never seen the ships passing through the
    narrows before... needless to say after that I had a very successful
    grade 1 and the rest of my elementary days.

    Thank you Mrs. James!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 11:04:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uto3ka$96f$1@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    Wrong again, Leroy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 11:05:57 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:pu900jpq12i6q3nm5bgd7jgeusnr92kh95@4ax.com, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 07:57:00 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    Really? What religion do they indoctrinate in?

    Verb
    indoctrinate (third-person singular simple present indoctrinates, present
    participle indoctrinating, simple past and past participle indoctrinated)

    1.. To teach with a biased, one-sided or uncritical ideology; to brainwash.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/indoctrinate

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 12:13:54 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went >>to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have >>swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 24 19:23:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sun Mar 24 19:25:00 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.elections

    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote in news:vik00j1262n53gsi2nuk070oa82pohb745@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 04:34:38 -0400, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    That wasn't a government decision.

    That said, you're correct. To little attention is paid to the basics
    in early grades. One and two should be about reading and arithmetic.
    If you can get them into third grade with high reading skills and
    solid understanding of number basic, you can rapidly accelerate them >>through the rest of the grade levels.

    Teach them to read!

    I was reading confidently when I entered grade 1. The main problem I
    had was that being tall I was placed at the back of the classroom and
    my teacher noticed early on that (a) I could read, (b) I was VERY good
    at verbal questions but challenged on written questions (e.g. on the blackboard).

    Fortunately for me my teacher diagnosed my problem and called my
    mother telling her that her son needed an eye exam and probably
    glasses. These days I might be diagnosed as "gifted / learning
    disabled" and prescribed all sorts of medications to solve my problem.

    No they wouldn't. We've advanced in such things - not regressed/


    Since we were on the north shore we had to go downtown to the
    optometrist and the day I got my glasses on the way home I asked my
    mother what those things were in the water. She was shocked as she
    only realized then that I had never seen the ships passing through the narrows before... needless to say after that I had a very successful
    grade 1 and the rest of my elementary days.

    Thank you Mrs. James!


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sun Mar 24 19:27:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utpq3c$gn8a$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uto3ka$96f$1@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    Wrong again, Leroy.

    HooNoo?!! Reading, 'Riting and 'Rithmatic are "indoctrination". Well, I supposed if you're a fucking Russian you might think learning about
    American culture and politics is "indocrination"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sun Mar 24 19:30:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utpq3e$gn8a$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:pu900jpq12i6q3nm5bgd7jgeusnr92kh95@4ax.com, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 07:57:00 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    Really? What religion do they indoctrinate in?

    Verb
    indoctrinate (third-person singular simple present indoctrinates,
    present participle indoctrinating, simple past and past participle
    indoctrinated)

    1.. To teach with a biased, one-sided or uncritical ideology; to
    brainwash.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/indoctrinate



    Notice Max HeadFullOfShit doesn't even hint at what ideology he thinks
    they are "brainwashing" in. I guess he thinks schools are regular
    Clockwork Orange.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 15:31:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 19:31:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 24 19:37:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!! The people at the time didn't
    think so. Often they had important jobs - like singers (opera. choir),
    haram guards/attendants, etc

    ==========
    Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions
    in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent domestics, for
    espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, concubines or
    sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal guards,
    government officials, and guardians of women or harem servants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 19:40:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick nor vagina?

    Mother Nature is not a bigot like you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 15:39:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 15:48:44 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    The people at the time didn't
    think so. Often they had important jobs - like singers (opera. choir),
    haram guards/attendants, etc

    ==========
    Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions
    in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent domestics, for
    espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, concubines or
    sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal guards,
    government officials, and guardians of women or harem servants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 15:57:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women. >>>>>>>

    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went >>>> to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have
    swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back then, 3
    sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    https://postimg.cc/Pp7DQ6cr yay

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 24 15:49:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick nor >vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Mother Nature is not a bigot like you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 14:28:16 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com>, Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..

    LOL

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 14:29:57 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utpv3e$hrdc$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    That's the point.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 24 14:30:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utpvjd$hrdc$7@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick nor vagina?

    Mother Nature is not a bigot like you.

    You already answered this once. Attention seeking?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun Mar 24 19:18:04 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    Castrati is not a sex - or a gender. They are still
    males, boys and men.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun Mar 24 19:20:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 1:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear >>>>>>>>>> a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick nor vagina?

    Mother Nature is not a bigot like you.

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 24 19:21:38 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>> teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>>>> home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>> have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't >>>>> change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 24 19:23:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 2:29 PM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utpv3e$hrdc$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear >>>>>>>>>>> a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    That's the point.

    A man does not become a woman by psychological manipulation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Mar 24 19:17:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited
    by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 03:15:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing. And there are hermaphrodites.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 03:20:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools
    you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill
    a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick
    nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.


    Mother Nature is not a bigot like you.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 03:17:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:vb010jlp0j41i6vk6fniqamv4gdb5316ed@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>> > governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>> >> >wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Maybe in this culture, but not necessarily in every culture.


    The people at the time didn't
    think so. Often they had important jobs - like singers (opera.
    choir), haram guards/attendants, etc

    ==========
    Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of
    functions in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent
    domestics, for espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, >>concubines or sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal >>guards, government officials, and guardians of women or harem
    servants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Mon Mar 25 03:30:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Qj4MN.586185$c3Ea.372389@fx10.iad:



    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.


    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated
    with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each
    other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 01:02:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utqq8f$rpit$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>> >>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear >>>> >>>> >> >a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>> >>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing. And there are hermaphrodites.

    That still doesn't allow a faggot to use the girls room.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 01:00:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter ><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in >>news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 03:56:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.


    take him to a dentist, pissbum

    https://postimg.cc/1n3BzPJj <- skeeter and son

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Mon Mar 25 05:07:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:17:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be >authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited
    by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Nonsense....

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 05:09:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:15:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>> >>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear >>>>> >>>> >> >a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>> >>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing.

    Yes they are....

    And there are hermaphrodites.

    <SHRUG>

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Mon Mar 25 05:04:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:21:38 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>> teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>>>>> home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>>> have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't >>>>>> change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.


    I know, I'm just having fun with the leftyloons.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 05:58:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:30:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Qj4MN.586185$c3Ea.372389@fx10.iad:



    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.


    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are >socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated >with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each >other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can >change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    Sure, men can raise children and cook and women can go hunting, but
    they're still men and women and they don't pretend otherwise.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 05:55:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:vb010jlp0j41i6vk6fniqamv4gdb5316ed@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> > governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>> >> >wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply >>>because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Maybe in this culture, but not necessarily in every culture.


    Oh I know there are strange cultures with strange beliefs. Some
    cultures believe that people should put societal well being ahead of
    their individual well being. That's one I never understood.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 05:56:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:20:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools
    you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill
    a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick
    nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.

    So, how many?

    Mother Nature is not a bigot like you.


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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 08:12:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 10:10 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 08:53:39 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 8:46 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:57:42 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    Where does the Constitution forbid the Federal Government from participating in Education?

    Oh dear God, another one who thinks govt is free to do as it wishes
    unless it's forbidden by the constitution.

    That's because it is, dummy. If the Constitution doesn't expressly forbid it, government
    can do it.

    Nope.

    How many states would gladly give up all Federal education money in order to comply with
    your version of the C?

    <noticing how you ignored this part>

    Swill

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 07:22:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me...
    Voice of Authority <privatemail@protonmail.com> wrote in news:utkl9s$33g89$1@dont-email.me:

    Eight states offer all students,
    regardless of household income,
    free school meals - and more
    states are trending in the
    direction. But while people across
    the country move to feed school
    children, congressional Republicans
    are looking to stop the cause.

    The budget - co-signed by more
    than 170 House Republicans - calls
    to eliminate "the Community
    Eligibility Provision (CEP) from
    the School Lunch Program." The CEP,
    the Republicans note, "allows
    certain schools to provide free
    school lunches regardless of the
    individual eligibility of each
    student."

    https://theintercept.com/2024/03/21/house-republicans-ban-universal-sch
    o ol-lunches/


    I'm surprised they haven't passed laws prohibiting children from
    attending school because an educated citizen won't vote for them.
    Most say they'd better hand some tax cuts over to rich people or
    they'll move to Saudi Arabia where they're are no taxes.


    Donald Trump still king of the 'poorly educated'

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/29/donald-trump-still-kin
    g- poorly-educated/


    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public Schools of
    any ability to actually educate, fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    What does any of this have to do with the ability of school to actually educate?

    Because all I've seen is a steady decline in the quality of our basic education.. yet they seem to have more than enough time to indoctrinate our children into every sort of perversity that exists.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/quality-us-k-12-college-education-decline-james-shott

    Seems the biggest complaint we hear from parents these days is the inability
    of school to educate their children.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 07:26:07 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me...
    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country Club
    to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public parks.'

    Well, if you're not using the public facilities, then they shouldn't need as much funding.. now should they?

    Why shouldn't that money go to school that can actually educate?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 07:29:32 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    the part where you claim if my child isn't going to the public school.. they still need to be paid for an education they aren't providing because my
    child isn't going there.

    If you want to eliminate that problem.. have public schools actually provide
    an education.

    Oh, but that's the problem.. public schools can't do so anymore.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 07:30:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:65ff0c88$0$4188$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    Why didn't you answer the question?

    Because any answer he could provide would destroy his own argument?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 07:31:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uto4ul$gqq$2@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0c88$0$4188 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2
    @news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country
    Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh!
    and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    Why didn't you answer the question?


    What?! Are you trying to change the subject? Asking about Trade classe? Trade Classes are now in Community Colleges - the High Schools have been stripped of funding.

    So, you're saying High Schools should be paid for a course they no longer provide?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 07:40:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uto54t$gqq$4@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    EXACTLY.. where does the Constitution say ANYTHING about the federal
    government being involved in schools?

    I refer you to the 10th Amendment, if you can't find were schools are part
    of the federal powers.

    The quality of education has DECLINED since the creation of the US Dept of Education.

    Do you know we now pay more per student, even allowing for inflation, than
    ever before in US history and the quality of that education has declined
    even as the costs increase.

    That the number of students starting college that need to take remedial
    classes on high school topics has climbed to up to 60%?

    And even then most will fail in that course...

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 07:40:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message news:pb200jh9pnsc0udgiv10ouna11hvjfsmp8@4ax.com...
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Cue the 10th Amendment cite...

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 07:41:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660120fc$0$876045$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in
    schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    10th Amendment.. Where does it say the government can participate in
    anything it wants?


    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 07:46:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message news:gmf20jlmvh8agl8e1n761d3oo485ivgiqj@4ax.com...
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:17:28 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>>> teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to >>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in
    schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be >>authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited
    by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Sorry, but I don't see anything in Article I that gives the federal
    government any power to collect or spend money on education other than some specific militia education. If you're going to hang your hat on that.. then
    I expect every shoot to teach schooling and have a rifle range.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Yak on Mon Mar 25 07:59:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message news:utp7oj$bl9n$7@dont-email.me...
    On 3/24/2024 8:46 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:57:42 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    Where does the Constitution forbid the Federal Government from
    participating in Education?

    Oh dear God, another one who thinks govt is free to do as it wishes unless it's forbidden by the constitution.

    Except that it is forbidden.. 10th Amendment. Unless specifically granted..
    the federal government has no such authority.


    How many states would gladly give up all Federal education money in order
    to comply with
    your version of the C?

    All of them.. given they can now collect that money directly without the conditions, limitations, requirements, and mandates imposed by the federal government and without the federal government taking their cut of the money
    to waste on their bureaucracy

    Think about it the US department of education has a budget of some $84
    Billion dollars.

    That's about $1.65 BILLION dollars, on average, that states would gain in providing education. Money that could actually GO towards educating
    students.

    Now what does the US Department of Education DO? Seems they spend most of
    their time creating policy on how to get some of this money back from the federal government.. which states spend Millions doing.

    Now, I suppose if we must have a Department of Education, then all it should need to do is establish standards that states would need to meet. You would need maybe a few hundred people to run that, and once a year representatives
    of the states could get together in a gathering with the few officials of
    the DoE to consider what standards should be and what level of education
    would be required to be acceptable to all states.

    Meanwhile we could return 95% of the money now spent on the DoE back to the states.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 08:02:00 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:66002b64$0$4188$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <o0800j14ctedjkbv7kk9cf7n9s0alna57h@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:57:42 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    Where does the Constitution forbid the Federal Government from
    participating in Education?

    How many states would gladly give up all Federal education money in order
    to comply with
    your version of the C?

    Like black male? Do it our way or lose the funding?

    That seems exactly what it sounds like... probably why the federal
    government was given no such authority in this area.

    In fact.. aren't a lot of government programs just a form of blackmail. Do
    what we tell you, even though we can't tell you, or you don't get the money that was stolen from people to blackmail you with.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:03:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.


    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is doing
    in school?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:05:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uto52c$gqq$3@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have
    swapped for thousands of years.

    Gender roles may have.. Genders have NOT.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:07:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you went >>>to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles have >>>swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia.

    So, you think genital mutilation is an acceptable practice?

    And further that public schools should be encouraging students to do so and WITHOUT the knowledge or consent of their parents?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:09:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utpuj9$hrdc$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    Castration doesn't change your sex.. it only removes the apparatus.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:10:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utpvec$hrdc$6@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >>>>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >>>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Yes. I mean it's certainly not natural.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 08:11:45 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message news:7ci20jd8jkc9d6m5g9hk1sv4cjl08pevv9@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:vb010jlp0j41i6vk6fniqamv4gdb5316ed@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> > governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>>>>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply >>>>because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Maybe in this culture, but not necessarily in every culture.


    Oh I know there are strange cultures with strange beliefs. Some
    cultures believe that people should put societal well being ahead of
    their individual well being. That's one I never understood.

    I couldn't get that one either... How does limiting my rights somehow expand the rights of others?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 08:14:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:66008d14$0$2187650$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utpvec$hrdc$6@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't
    change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!! The people at the time didn't
    think so. Often they had important jobs - like singers (opera. choir),
    haram guards/attendants, etc

    ==========
    Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions
    in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent domestics, for
    espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, concubines or
    sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal guards,
    government officials, and guardians of women or harem servants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato

    Maybe you should look what year it is.

    I suggest that we castrate Baxter just so he can demonstrate it's normalcy.

    I mean as an advocate.... he should be all for it.

    Right?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:15:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utpv3e$hrdc$5@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195
    $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you
    went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    So now you're looking to the mentally ill to support your claims?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:17:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uto3ka$96f$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    Exactly government schools are well known to indoctrinate.. these days particularly when it comes to gender identity.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 08:18:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utpuqn$hrdc$3@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utpq3c$gn8a$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uto3ka$96f$1@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    Wrong again, Leroy.

    HooNoo?!! Reading, 'Riting and 'Rithmatic are "indoctrination".

    Which of those subjects does drag shows and gender identity fall under?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 08:21:44 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utrsg2$13j8s$5@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:65ff0c88$0$4188$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utmpuu$3mj2s$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddae$0$6401$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com >> > says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net: >> >>
    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >> >> >> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the Country >> >> Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' 'oh! and
    I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those public
    parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    What part of "School vouchers be like:" did you not understand?

    Why didn't you answer the question?

    Because any answer he could provide would destroy his own argument?


    That's the typical way of the left.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 08:27:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utrsgh$13j8s$20@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:66008d14$0$2187650$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utpvec$hrdc$6@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >> >>>>>>$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >> >>>>teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear >> a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let him >> >>>>home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >> >>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so fragile? >> >>>>>>>
    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals doesn't >> >>> change him into a woman. Of course if he does it voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!! The people at the time didn't >> think so. Often they had important jobs - like singers (opera. choir),
    haram guards/attendants, etc

    ==========
    Over the millennia since, they have performed a wide variety of functions >> in many different cultures: courtiers or equivalent domestics, for
    espionage or clandestine operations, castrato singers, concubines or
    sexual partners, religious specialists, soldiers, royal guards,
    government officials, and guardians of women or harem servants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato

    Maybe you should look what year it is.

    I suggest that we castrate Baxter just so he can demonstrate it's normalcy.

    I mean as an advocate.... he should be all for it.

    Right?


    <liberal speak>

    But but that's different.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 14:51:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:660120fc$0$876045$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for
    it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According
    to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.


    Yeah, you didn't want your kid to associate with "those kids".

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 14:52:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66012198$0$876046$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utqq8f$rpit$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and
    let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools
    you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it -
    back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman.
    Drill a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a
    man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing. And there are hermaphrodites.

    That still doesn't allow a faggot to use the girls room.


    And how are you going to tell if someone is a "faggot"?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 14:53:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:sgf20jpmrdo4r6723unoen0mhv136kojno@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:21:38 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger >>>>>>>>>> roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it -
    back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.

    It's not a sex - it's a gender


    I know, I'm just having fun with the leftyloons.

    No, you're just flinging your shit at the walls like a monkey.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 15:01:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:dof20jlqbqhmq7qum9ai8een2832h5g75k@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:15:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools
    you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman.
    Drill a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a
    man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing.

    Yes they are....

    No they are not.
    ===========
    Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in
    the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.

    https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

    =============
    What do we mean by sex and gender? Aren’t these terms interchangeable?
    Perhaps at some point in time they were used as synonyms, but this is no
    longer true in science.

    https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/

    ============

    You're just a fucking, nuckle-dragging, anti-science reactionary.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 15:03:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:7ci20jd8jkc9d6m5g9hk1sv4cjl08pevv9@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:vb010jlp0j41i6vk6fniqamv4gdb5316ed@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> > governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply >>>>because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Maybe in this culture, but not necessarily in every culture.


    Oh I know there are strange cultures with strange beliefs. Some
    cultures believe that people should put societal well being ahead of
    their individual well being. That's one I never understood.

    Spock: "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Mar 25 15:05:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:9ii20jdiu4nlvqi92tmne4prcj52vef4ei@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:20:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools
    you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>> >>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill
    a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick >>>>nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.

    So, how many?

    Doesn't matter how many - that they exist disproves your binary 'dick OR vagina'.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Mar 25 08:15:20 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 4:46 AM, Scout wrote:

    {snip}

    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be
    authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited >>> by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Sorry, but I don't see anything in Article I that gives the federal government any power to collect or spend money on education other than
    some specific militia education. If you're going to hang your hat on
    that.. then I expect every shoot to teach schooling and have a rifle range.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts
    and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and
    general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering v.
    Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 09:26:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uts30m$154gj$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:660120fc$0$876045$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>, governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for
    it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According
    to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.


    Yeah, you didn't want your kid to associate with "those kids".

    There goes your well trained liberalism again. What do the other kids
    have to do with it?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 09:29:24 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uts3l5$154gj$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:dof20jlqbqhmq7qum9ai8een2832h5g75k@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:15:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>> >>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>> >>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman.
    Drill a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a
    man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing.

    Yes they are....

    No they are not.
    ===========
    Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in
    the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.

    https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

    =============
    What do we mean by sex and gender? Aren?t these terms interchangeable? Perhaps at some point in time they were used as synonyms, but this is no longer true in science.

    https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/

    ============

    You're just a fucking, nuckle-dragging, anti-science reactionary.

    Yet if you have a dick you're still a male.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 09:28:44 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uts35a$154gj$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:sgf20jpmrdo4r6723unoen0mhv136kojno@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:21:38 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>> news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>> in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger >>>>>>>>>> roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - >>>>>>>> back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.

    It's not a sex - it's a gender

    No, it's a male with his balls cut off.


    I know, I'm just having fun with the leftyloons.

    No, you're just flinging your shit at the walls like a monkey.

    So far you haven't been able to refute anything he says.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 12:58:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:53:31 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:sgf20jpmrdo4r6723unoen0mhv136kojno@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:21:38 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger >>>>>>>>>>> roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - >>>>>>>>> back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.

    It's not a sex - it's a gender

    It's neither...

    I know, I'm just having fun with the leftyloons.

    No, you're just flinging your shit at the walls like a monkey.

    Speaking of shit. I notice that Budwieser got shit on, and now Planet
    Fitness.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 12:59:32 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:01:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:dof20jlqbqhmq7qum9ai8een2832h5g75k@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:15:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>> >>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>> >>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman.
    Drill a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a
    man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing.

    Yes they are....

    No they are not.
    ===========
    Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in
    the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are >expressed. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, >expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse >people.

    https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

    =============
    What do we mean by sex and gender? Aren’t these terms interchangeable? >Perhaps at some point in time they were used as synonyms, but this is no >longer true in science.

    https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/

    ============

    You're just a fucking, nuckle-dragging, anti-science reactionary.

    Blah, blah, blah...

    https://rigorousthemes.com/blog/go-woke-go-broke-examples-of-companies-facing-consequences/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 13:03:36 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:05:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:9ii20jdiu4nlvqi92tmne4prcj52vef4ei@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:20:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>> >>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>> >>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>> >>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>> >>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>> >>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill >>>>>> a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick >>>>>nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.

    So, how many?

    Doesn't matter how many - that they exist disproves your binary 'dick OR >vagina'.

    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Mar 25 13:01:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:03:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:7ci20jd8jkc9d6m5g9hk1sv4cjl08pevv9@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:vb010jlp0j41i6vk6fniqamv4gdb5316ed@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>>>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply >>>>>because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Maybe in this culture, but not necessarily in every culture.


    Oh I know there are strange cultures with strange beliefs. Some
    cultures believe that people should put societal well being ahead of
    their individual well being. That's one I never understood.

    Spock: "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".

    Spock was a freak. That entire show was comprised of nothing but
    freaky nonsense

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 13:22:54 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uts30m$154gj$1@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:660120fc$0$876045$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for
    it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According
    to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.


    Yeah, you didn't want your kid to associate with "those kids".

    No, more likely he wants his child to actually have an education, rather
    than an indoctrination.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Mar 25 13:25:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660197bd$0$2077926$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uts30m$154gj$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:660120fc$0$876045$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for
    it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According
    to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.


    Yeah, you didn't want your kid to associate with "those kids".

    There goes your well trained liberalism again. What do the other kids
    have to do with it?

    Haven't you realized.. doesn't matter how stupid it is.. with Democrats it's all about conformity.

    If the other kids are jumping off a bridge... then you're suppose to do the same.
    I mean they can't have anyone thinking for themselves, can they?
    People might get this crazy notion that they know how to run their own
    lives.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 13:29:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uts35a$154gj$3@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:sgf20jpmrdo4r6723unoen0mhv136kojno@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:21:38 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger >>>>>>>>>>> roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - >>>>>>>>> back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.

    It's not a sex - it's a gender

    If your gender doesn't reflect your sex.. then you're insane.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 13:30:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uts3l5$154gj$4@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:dof20jlqbqhmq7qum9ai8een2832h5g75k@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:15:28 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>> >>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>> >>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman.
    Drill a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a
    man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing.

    Yes they are....

    No they are not.
    ===========
    Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in
    the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed. Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people.


    IOW, One's sex is a matter of reality. Gender can be your delusions about
    what sex you are.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 13:31:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uts3o7$154gj$5@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:7ci20jd8jkc9d6m5g9hk1sv4cjl08pevv9@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:17:29 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:vb010jlp0j41i6vk6fniqamv4gdb5316ed@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02 >>>>>>>>>_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> > governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO >>>>>>>>><George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger
    roles
    have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>>>>then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals
    doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply >>>>>because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Maybe in this culture, but not necessarily in every culture.


    Oh I know there are strange cultures with strange beliefs. Some
    cultures believe that people should put societal well being ahead of
    their individual well being. That's one I never understood.

    Spock: "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".

    Well, I guess that means the trans idiots are SOL then.. as they are the
    few.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 13:33:36 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uts3rp$154gj$6@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:9ii20jdiu4nlvqi92tmne4prcj52vef4ei@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:20:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >>>>>news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>> >>>> >> >they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>> >>>> > him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>> >>>> > women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>> >>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>> >>have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill >>>>>> a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick >>>>>nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.

    So, how many?

    Doesn't matter how many - that they exist disproves your binary 'dick OR vagina'.

    Not really, abnormalities exist but they are hardly normal. Meanwhile mental illness is common among those who have delusions about their sex.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 13:01:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <c4b30j9t87kqv5g56aasgbtfesueu3nh3u@4ax.com>, Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:53:31 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:sgf20jpmrdo4r6723unoen0mhv136kojno@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:21:38 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 3/24/2024 1:48 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:37:49 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:hpv00jd0fh55t224bn3q6282oba4608kba@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:i6j00j1h6g8hk37v90j8psaj4ijr8fhgip@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:42:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear
    a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so >>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger >>>>>>>>>>> roles have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - >>>>>>>>> back then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati


    So, I guess you understand that cutting off a man's genitals >>>>>>>> doesn't change him into a woman. Of course if he does it
    voluntarily, it
    does
    turn him into a freak, well, no, actually, he's a freak simply
    because
    he considers doing it.


    What part of "3 sexes" did you not understand?

    4... Male, female, ????, and freak..


    So you think all castrati were "freaks"?!!

    Can't you read? I said he's a freak if he does it voluntarily.
    Otherwise, he's a victim.

    Regardless, castrati is not a third sex.

    It's not a sex - it's a gender

    It's neither...

    I know, I'm just having fun with the leftyloons.

    No, you're just flinging your shit at the walls like a monkey.

    Speaking of shit. I notice that Budwieser got shit on, and now Planet Fitness.

    What sucks is I just got a black card membership to PF a month ago. Now
    I got to dump it and go elsewhere.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 13:04:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utsdrm$17tup$2@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660197bd$0$2077926$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uts30m$154gj$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:660120fc$0$876045$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <94n10j1rm6md8mr1iepq47o18klapaj4o8@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for
    it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According
    to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since isn't forbidden.

    Swill

    That's why I pulled my son from public school.


    Yeah, you didn't want your kid to associate with "those kids".

    There goes your well trained liberalism again. What do the other kids
    have to do with it?

    Haven't you realized.. doesn't matter how stupid it is.. with Democrats it's all about conformity.

    If the other kids are jumping off a bridge... then you're suppose to do the same.
    I mean they can't have anyone thinking for themselves, can they?
    People might get this crazy notion that they know how to run their own
    lives.


    We can't have that. My son did well at home. He has a good job and is
    working on opening his own mobile auto detailing service.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 14:56:00 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:utpv0l$hrdc$4@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utpq3e$gn8a$3@dont-email.me:
    In news:pu900jpq12i6q3nm5bgd7jgeusnr92kh95@4ax.com, Governor Swill
    <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 07:57:00 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    Really? What religion do they indoctrinate in?

    Verb
    indoctrinate (third-person singular simple present indoctrinates,
    present participle indoctrinating, simple past and past
    participle indoctrinated)

    1.. To teach with a biased, one-sided or uncritical ideology; to
    brainwash.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/indoctrinate

    Notice Max HeadFullOfShit doesn't even hint at what ideology he thinks
    they are "brainwashing" in. ...

    Yours.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 25 14:57:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:utpuqn$hrdc$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:utpq3c$gn8a$2@dont-email.me:
    In news:uto3ka$96f$1@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:utmqo3$3mrti$2@dont-email.me:
    In news:utkqo8$34tj5$3@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate,...

    That ship sailed long ago. How do vouchers make any difference?

    ... fund those private schools that indoctrinate.

    As if government schools don't.

    You know god-damned well that's a lie

    Wrong again, Leroy.

    HooNoo?!! Reading, 'Riting and 'Rithmatic are "indoctrination". ...

    If they were teaching only "Reading, 'Riting and 'Rithmatic," there'd be fewer problems.

    How to Center DEI in Teaching - Carnegie Mellon University https://www.cmu.edu/teaching/designteach/diversityequityinclusion/index.html

    4 Tips to Incorporate DEI in Your Classroom - McGraw Hill https://www.mheducation.com/highered/ideas/equity-diversity/4-tips-to-incorporate-dei-in-your-classroom

    How To Include DEI In Your Instructional Design Practices https://elearningindustry.com/how-to-include-dei-initiatives-in-your-instructional-design-practices

    Refocusing on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion During the Pandemic and ... https://www.higheredtoday.org/2021/01/13/refocusing-diversity-equity-inclusion-pandemic-beyond-lessons-community-practice/

    DEI-Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity in the Math Classroom - Sadlier https://www.sadlier.com/school/sadlier-math-blog/dei-diversity-inclusion-and-equity-in-the-math-classroom

    Anti-racism, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in Math https://www.sabes.org/content/anti-racism-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-math

    A Pathway to - Math Equity Toolkit https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

    Need more?

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 17:29:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 8:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a
    dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those
    public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in schools since
    isn't forbidden.

    News flash, the Tenth Amendment is still a thing.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Mar 25 17:31:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 8:10 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 08:53:39 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:46 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:57:42 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    We should take the federal government out of schools. According to
    the Constitution it doesn't belong there.

    Where does the Constitution forbid the Federal Government from participating in Education?

    Oh dear God, another one who thinks govt is free to do as it wishes
    unless it's forbidden by the constitution.

    That's because it is, dummy. If the Constitution doesn't expressly forbid it, government
    can do it.

    No. If the Constitution doesn't grant it, it is reserved
    to the people or the states, and the federal government
    is forbidden to do it.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Mon Mar 25 17:33:46 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 17:40:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 9:15 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:j4010jhrpf5bu0o791lo9lhf27krttsb6p@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:31:58 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 >>>>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear >>>>>>>>>>>> a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let
    him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools you >>>>>>>>> went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>> have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill a
    hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.


    Genetic sex and psycological gender don't always match.

    Only one way to detirmine sex/gender... penis vs vagina.


    Sex and gender are not the same thing.

    Only because there has been a recent hijacking of terms
    by the crazies. Until very recently they were the same thing.

    And there are hermaphrodites.

    There are no human true hermaphrodites.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 17:41:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 9:20 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>,
    governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>> wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be
    women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools
    you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>> have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back
    then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill
    a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick
    nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.

    Nobody has ever had both as functioning sex organs.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Mon Mar 25 16:42:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts
    and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and
    general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering v.
    Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 17:43:45 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.

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  • From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Mon Mar 25 16:45:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in
    schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Mike Colangelo on Mon Mar 25 16:52:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>>> teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the
    Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate
    in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be
    authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not
    prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

    From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve
    general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the
    judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301
    U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional
    decision is such that the Court has more recently questioned whether
    "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all. See
    Buckley v. Valeo."

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/483/203/

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Mar 25 17:53:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 9:05 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:9ii20jdiu4nlvqi92tmne4prcj52vef4ei@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 03:20:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:3u010jlv5095e1unstftm83hkajov9ar20@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 19:40:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:66006d63$0$876051$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utphkk$eikh$1@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:49200jta9t047a6e3su01h8o4fc69t1s4f@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:01:33 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65ff0cb0$1$4195 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utmq31$3mj2s$3@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:65feddeb$0$6403$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <kr4tvi9dnnjtkgg9n2oqf29alhmp1jjj85@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...

    On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 22:03:57 -0000 (UTC), GEO
    <George@Foo.invalid>
    wrote:

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
    teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear a
    dress
    and make up.

    Your bag doesn't match your shoes.

    Swill

    He's right. I took my son out in his freshman year and let >>>>>>>>>>>> him
    home
    school. He's doing just fine and doesn't think men can be >>>>>>>>>>>> women.


    You think sexual orientation can be taught? Did the schools >>>>>>>>>>> you went
    to
    teach you to be a "man"? Is your sexual orientation so
    fragile?

    A dick = a man

    A pussy = a woman


    Pretty simple really.


    You're a simpleton. A bigotted hateful one at that. Genger roles >>>>>>>>> have swapped for thousands of years.

    Roles swap maybe, not genitals.


    Surgery has advanced in those millenia. But think about it - back >>>>>>> then, 3 sexes = male, female, castrati

    What advance? You sew a dick on a woman, she's still a woman. Drill >>>>>> a hole in the guy that just lost his dick and he's still a man.

    And what about those born with both dick and vagina? Or neither dick >>>>> nor vagina?

    Same as people with two heads.....

    Nope
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_and_Brittany_Hensel

    Far more people with both dick and vagina.

    So, how many?

    Doesn't matter how many - that they exist disproves your
    binary 'dick OR vagina'.

    They don't exist. There has never existed a functioning
    dick and a functioning vagina in the same person.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Mike Colangelo on Tue Mar 26 02:47:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in news:u0oMN.131590$Vrtf.67161@fx39.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.



    You have no conception of what Education is.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Mar 26 02:46:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or deserving
    of your hatred.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Tue Mar 26 02:50:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too. I'll take the word of science
    over your throwback superstious hatred.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Mar 26 00:02:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 8:46 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.

    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or deserving
    of your hatred.

    Barring catastrophe,, people have eight fingers and two
    thumbs, usually referred to just as ten fingers. Just
    because you find someone with only two fingers doesn't
    mean the number of fingers for people is on a spectrum.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Tue Mar 26 04:24:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts
    and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and
    general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for the >"general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering v.
    Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Tue Mar 26 04:39:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 02:46:22 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or deserving
    of your hatred.

    I have no problem with babies with two fingers. I once dated a woman
    who such a baby.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Mar 26 07:20:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uttctu$1err8$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or deserving
    of your hatred.

    Where does non-human or hatred come into it?

    Oh, that's right, you have to invent excuses to be offended.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Mar 26 07:21:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uttd05$1err8$2@dont-email.me...
    Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in news:u0oMN.131590$Vrtf.67161@fx39.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.



    You have no conception of what Education is.

    Well, it's not what they are doing now, and still isn't authorized by the Constitution.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Mar 26 07:22:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if not
    longer.


    I'll take the word of science
    over your throwback superstious hatred.

    And yet, you ignore the science in favor of your hatred.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 08:45:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uttctu$1err8$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or deserving
    of your hatred.

    What hatred? It's still not normal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Tue Mar 26 07:45:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the >>>>>>>>> Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in >>>> schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be
    authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited by >>> something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

    From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the judgment of Congress.
    Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional decision is such that the Court has more
    recently questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Mar 26 14:54:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602df98$0$2130800$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uttctu$1err8$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or
    deserving of your hatred.

    What hatred? It's still not normal.

    Can't let them use the same bathrooms, sit at the same lunch counters, etc.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 08:59:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utuni8$1sbs5$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602df98$0$2130800$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uttctu$1err8$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or
    deserving of your hatred.

    What hatred? It's still not normal.

    Can't let them use the same bathrooms, sit at the same lunch counters, etc.

    A 2 fingered girl can use the womans bathroom and sit where ever she
    wants. What's your point?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Mar 26 15:11:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if not
    longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as recently as
    1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-from

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from. Ordinary
    people didn’t know, and neither did the scientists who helped shape the
    modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn’t know, Galileo didn’t know, Isaac
    Newton didn’t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are created.
    They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they finally
    discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those wriggly tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy. (The leading theory was that
    they were parasites, perhaps related to the newly discovered mini-
    creatures that swam in drops of pond water. This was Newton’s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-where- babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT been
    around for "thousands of years"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Mar 26 08:21:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts
    and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and
    general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for the
    "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering v.
    Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that remains
    the law today.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Mike Colangelo on Tue Mar 26 08:21:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>>>>> teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the >>>>>>>>>> Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for >>>>>>>>>> it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must
    be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not
    prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve
    general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the
    judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301
    U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional
    decision is such that the Court has more recently questioned whether
    "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to believe
    it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 09:29:04 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct. >>>>
    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-from

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from. Ordinary
    people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who helped shape the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know, Galileo didn?t know, Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are created.
    They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they finally
    discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those wriggly tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy. (The leading theory was that
    they were parasites, perhaps related to the newly discovered mini-
    creatures that swam in drops of pond water. This was Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-where- babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT been
    around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Johnny@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Tue Mar 26 10:36:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
    wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund >>>>>>>>>>>>> those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>> they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to >>>>>>>>>> the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to >>>>>>>>>> pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?


    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Johnny on Tue Mar 26 08:48:38 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/26/2024 8:36 AM, Johnny wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to >>>>>>>>>>>> the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to >>>>>>>>>>>> pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying >>>>>>>>>>>> for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the >>>>>>>>>>> schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools? >>>>>>>>>

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    ... in your opinion. But, your opinion does not determine whether
    Congressional funding is unconstitutional.

    If you think the policy is bad, you need to elect representatives that
    will do away with the policy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 10:15:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <20240326103610.568220c7@JA>, johnny@invalid.net says...

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund >>>>>>>>>>>>> those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>> they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to >>>>>>>>>> the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to >>>>>>>>>> pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying >>>>>>>>>> for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the >>>>>>>>> schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools? >>>>>>>

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    You spelled indoctrinated wrong.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Johnny@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Mar 26 11:37:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 10:15:58 -0600
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

    In article <20240326103610.568220c7@JA>, johnny@invalid.net says...

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Public Schools of any ability to actually
    educate, fund those private schools that
    indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only >>>>>>>>>>>> thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need >>>>>>>>>>>> to wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go >>>>>>>>>> to the Country Club to play - and I want the Public
    Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying >>>>>>>>>> for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of
    the schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about
    schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional
    legislation must be authorized by a power delineated in
    Article I (as well as not prohibited by something like the
    First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing
    Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer
    substantially to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis,
    supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The
    level of deference to the congressional decision is such that
    the Court has more recently questioned whether "general
    welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether
    funding serves general public purposes, except when it is
    irrational to believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general
    public purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    You spelled indoctrinated wrong.

    You are correct, diversity equity and inclusion doesn't educate
    students, it indoctrinates them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 11:09:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <20240326113751.7d29c4b0@JA>, johnny@invalid.net says...

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 10:15:58 -0600
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

    In article <20240326103610.568220c7@JA>, johnny@invalid.net says...

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Public Schools of any ability to actually >>>>>>>>>>>>> educate, fund those private schools that
    indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only >>>>>>>>>>>> thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need >>>>>>>>>>>> to wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go >>>>>>>>>> to the Country Club to play - and I want the Public >>>>>>>>>> Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying >>>>>>>>>> for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of >>>>>>>>> the schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there. >>>>>>>>

    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about
    schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional
    legislation must be authorized by a power delineated in
    Article I (as well as not prohibited by something like the
    First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing
    Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer
    substantially to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis,
    supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The
    level of deference to the congressional decision is such that
    the Court has more recently questioned whether "general
    welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether
    funding serves general public purposes, except when it is
    irrational to believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general
    public purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    You spelled indoctrinated wrong.

    You are correct, diversity equity and inclusion doesn't educate
    students, it indoctrinates them.

    Didn't
    Earn
    It

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Tue Mar 26 11:09:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the >>>>>>>>>>> Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in >>>>>> schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be >>>>> authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited by
    something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve general
    public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the judgment of
    Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645.
    {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional decision is such >>> that the Court has more recently questioned whether "general welfare" is a >>> judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution.

    That argument can only be made by slimy sophists. The framers definitely did not
    anticipate or want the federal government to be doing the bulk of what it currently does.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Mar 26 20:34:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602e9c1$0$2077923$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social
    construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and
    boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms,
    behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or
    boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social
    construct, gender varies from society to society and can change
    over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if
    not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as
    recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-from

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from. Ordinary
    people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who helped shape
    the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know, Galileo didn?t know,
    Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are
    created. They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they
    finally discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those wriggly
    tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy. (The leading
    theory was that they were parasites, perhaps related to the newly
    discovered mini- creatures that swam in drops of pond water. This was
    Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-where-
    babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT
    been around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.


    IOW, you hate science and history.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Tue Mar 26 20:33:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in
    news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties,
    imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common
    defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said
    it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that
    remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was
    written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air
    travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Johnny on Tue Mar 26 20:36:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in news:20240326103610.568220c7@JA:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
    wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to
    the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to
    pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?


    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    Go ahead, support your claim. But do note that failures like your own
    glorous self do not disprove the benefit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Tue Mar 26 20:38:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602f4bf$0$3158697 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <20240326103610.568220c7@JA>, johnny@invalid.net says...

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
    wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip
    the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate,
    fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to
    the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to
    pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about
    schools?


    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing
    Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to
    the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether
    funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    You spelled indoctrinated wrong.

    Go ahead, show us how schools indocrinate - do explain just how those
    materials taught indoctrinate.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Mike Colangelo on Tue Mar 26 20:40:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in news:MbEMN.105038$_a1e.20201@fx16.iad:

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they teach is that if you are male you are female and you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to >>>>>>>>>>>> the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to >>>>>>>>>>>> pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by >>>>>>>>>>>> not paying for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the >>>>>>>>>>> schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. 
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools? >>>>>>>>
    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as
    not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to
    the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S.
    640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution.

    That argument can only be made by slimy sophists. The framers
    definitely did not anticipate or want the federal government to be
    doing the bulk of what it currently does.



    The frimers of the Constitution had no inkling of things to come.
    There's this thing called "progress" that you absolutely hate.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Tue Mar 26 18:00:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:33 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts >>> and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and
    general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for the >>> "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering v.
    Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    So you believe the federals have free rein. Why am I not surprised...

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said it >wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that remains
    the law today.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 16:22:24 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utvbhf$2ba3d$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602e9c1$0$2077923$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social
    construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and
    boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms,
    behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or
    boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social
    construct, gender varies from society to society and can change
    over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if
    not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as
    recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-from

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from. Ordinary
    people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who helped shape
    the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know, Galileo didn?t know,
    Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are
    created. They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they
    finally discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those wriggly
    tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy. (The leading
    theory was that they were parasites, perhaps related to the newly
    discovered mini- creatures that swam in drops of pond water. This was
    Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-where-
    babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT
    been around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.


    IOW, you hate science and history.

    Did I say that? Why know I didn't. But you did. Why do your type always
    assume?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 16:23:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utvbr5$2ba3d$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in news:MbEMN.105038$_a1e.20201@fx16.iad:

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they teach is that if you are male you are female and you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to >>>>>>>>>>>> the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to >>>>>>>>>>>> pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by >>>>>>>>>>>> not paying for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the >>>>>>>>>>> schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools. 
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools? >>>>>>>>
    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as >>>>>> not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause >>>>>> in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to
    the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S.
    640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution.

    That argument can only be made by slimy sophists. The framers
    definitely did not anticipate or want the federal government to be
    doing the bulk of what it currently does.



    The frimers of the Constitution had no inkling of things to come.
    There's this thing called "progress" that you absolutely hate.

    Assuming again?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Mar 26 16:51:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/25/2024 8:50 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.
    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.
    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.

    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Only if recent means since the dawn of history.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Tue Mar 26 19:13:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties,
    imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common
    defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said
    it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that
    remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was
    written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air
    travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Wed Mar 27 02:26:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in news:fkIMN.127072$6ePe.65484
    @fx42.iad:

    On 3/25/2024 8:50 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct.
    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.
    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.

    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Only if recent means since the dawn of history.


    So History began in the lates 1700's?!! It wasn't until 1776 that they
    found out that sperm were involved in reporduction. And another 100
    years after that before they figured out the sperm fertilzed the egg.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 27 02:20:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66034aa1$0$3158691$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utvbhf$2ba3d$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:6602e9c1$0$2077923$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social
    construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and
    boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms,
    behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl
    or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social
    construct, gender varies from society to society and can
    change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years
    if not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come
    From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as
    recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-f
    rom

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from.
    Ordinary people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who
    helped shape the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know,
    Galileo didn?t know, Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are
    created. They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they
    finally discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those
    wriggly tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy.
    (The leading theory was that they were parasites, perhaps related
    to the newly discovered mini- creatures that swam in drops of pond
    water. This was Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-whe
    re- babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT
    been around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.


    IOW, you hate science and history.

    Did I say that?

    Yeah - when you said "trolling". I present science and history and you
    call it "trolling"


    Why know I didn't. But you did. Why do your type
    always assume?


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 02:31:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >>news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I. >>>>>>>
    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties,
    imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common
    defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend
    for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936),
    Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said
    it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that
    remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.


    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a fraction
    of the populace being educated at all. And it became evident that such a
    system wasn't working. Then the State governments got involved, and
    finally the Federal government. Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education. And we're still working on that today.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 02:35:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    ==============
    As George Washington ended his term as the first president of the United States, he left with a few parting words. Washington’s Farewell Address
    of 1796 delineated many of the recommendations Washington had for the
    future of his country. Amongst these suggestions was a public education
    system. Washington instructed American leaders to “promote… institutions
    for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of
    a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public
    opinion should be enlightened.” Washington saw the importance of
    educating the American public as a means to grow the country
    economically, but also to create a well-informed populace to participate
    in America’s newly founded democracy.

    https://ushistoryscene.com/article/rise-of-public-education/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 26 21:27:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uu003s$2fo43$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in news:fkIMN.127072$6ePe.65484@fx42.iad:
    On 3/25/2024 8:50 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:

    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender
    varies from society to society and can change over time.
    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.

    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Only if recent means since the dawn of history.

    So History began in the lates 1700's?!! It wasn't until 1776 that
    they found out that sperm were involved in reporduction. ...

    They knew cum was--

    "...In Asia before the 15th century, some use of glans condoms (devices covering
    only the head of the penis) is recorded. Condoms seem to have been used for contraception, and to have been known only by members of the upper classes...."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoms#Before_the_19th_century

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Wed Mar 27 06:29:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:35:09 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    ==============
    As George Washington ended his term as the first president of the United >States, he left with a few parting words. Washington’s Farewell Address
    of 1796 delineated many of the recommendations Washington had for the
    future of his country. Amongst these suggestions was a public education >system. Washington instructed American leaders to “promote… institutions
    for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of
    a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public >opinion should be enlightened.” Washington saw the importance of
    educating the American public as a means to grow the country
    economically, but also to create a well-informed populace to participate
    in America’s newly founded democracy.

    https://ushistoryscene.com/article/rise-of-public-education/

    <Shrug>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:32:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct. >>>>>
    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if not
    longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as recently as 1875.

    And yet, we have condoms that date back to the middle ages....

    Apparently they understood the process quite well

    Not hard to figure out that fucking = babies.

    But leave it to Baxter to be that ignorant of reality that he has to be
    told,

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:34:25 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utvbhf$2ba3d$2@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602e9c1$0$2077923$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social
    construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and
    boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms,
    behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or
    boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social
    construct, gender varies from society to society and can change
    over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if
    not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as
    recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-from

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from. Ordinary
    people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who helped shape
    the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know, Galileo didn?t know,
    Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are
    created. They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they
    finally discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those wriggly
    tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy. (The leading
    theory was that they were parasites, perhaps related to the newly
    discovered mini- creatures that swam in drops of pond water. This was
    Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-where-
    babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT
    been around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.


    IOW, you hate science and history.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 27 07:37:16 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:66034aa1$0$3158691$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utvbhf$2ba3d$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:6602e9c1$0$2077923$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social
    construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and
    boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms,
    behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or
    boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social
    construct, gender varies from society to society and can change
    over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years if
    not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as
    recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-from

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from. Ordinary
    people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who helped shape
    the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know, Galileo didn?t know,
    Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are
    created. They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they
    finally discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those wriggly
    tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy. (The leading
    theory was that they were parasites, perhaps related to the newly
    discovered mini- creatures that swam in drops of pond water. This was
    Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-where-
    babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT
    been around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.


    IOW, you hate science and history.

    Did I say that? Why know I didn't. But you did. Why do your type always assume?

    What else can he do given his fundamental ignorance?

    See, Baxter ASSUMES that without knowing the specifics that sperm causes a female to get pregnant that everyone else was to ignorant to understand that
    if a female is heat is fucked by a male.. offspring are the likely result. I mean we have evidence of that knowledge going back thousands of years. But apparently until a 'scientist' figures it out, then it's unknown.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:40:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utuni8$1sbs5$1@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602df98$0$2130800$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uttctu$1err8$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or
    deserving of your hatred.

    What hatred? It's still not normal.

    Can't let them use the same bathrooms, sit at the same lunch counters,
    etc.

    Well, there is this convention that boys/men don't share bathrooms and such with girls/women... and mental delusions aside that means you don't get to
    do it.

    So if the lunch counter is in the bathroom... yea, if you are the proper sex you might not be able to eat at it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 27 07:40:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:6602e2d4$0$2187650$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utuni8$1sbs5$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:6602df98$0$2130800$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uttctu$1err8$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:ffb30jphkvfdf82rk1jtt5cs5f9ia9pnlo@4ax.com:


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't mean it's normal to only
    have two fingers.


    A baby born with only two fingers doesn't make it non-human, or
    deserving of your hatred.

    What hatred? It's still not normal.

    Can't let them use the same bathrooms, sit at the same lunch counters,
    etc.

    A 2 fingered girl can use the womans bathroom and sit where ever she
    wants. What's your point?

    That he feels that mental delusions overcome biology.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:51:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utvbnt$2ba3d$4@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6602f4bf$0$3158697 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <20240326103610.568220c7@JA>, johnny@invalid.net says...

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
    wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip
    the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate,
    fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to
    the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to
    pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about
    schools?


    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing
    Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

    From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to
    the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether
    funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    You spelled indoctrinated wrong.

    Go ahead, show us how schools indocrinate - do explain just how those materials taught indoctrinate.

    Easy.. they don't teach children how to think, but rather what to think.

    To sit down, shut up and blindly accept what you are told to think.

    Look at the massive growth of transgenderism among children. They are doing what they are told, not what they think. They didn't even know about sex,
    but we're indoctrinating them that theirs is wrong and that they really want
    to be something they aren't.

    indoctrination
    noun [ U ] disapproving
    US /?n?d??k.tr?'ne?.??n/ UK /?n?d?k.tr?'ne?.??n/
    Add to word list
    the process of repeating an idea or belief to someone until they accept it without criticism or question:

    I mean heck, according to you people are too stupid to figure things out on their own until told by some authority figure.

    Yep, no one had any idea that females got pregnant after being fucked while
    in heat until some 'scientist' told them.

    Heck, I bet you have no idea how the internet works because no scientist has ever explained it to you.. it's just 'magic' right?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:57:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utvbfe$2ba3d$1@dont-email.me...
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties,
    imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common
    defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said
    it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that
    remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was
    written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air
    travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Welcome to why we have an Amendment process.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:56:15 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utvbkf$2ba3d$3@dont-email.me...
    Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in news:20240326103610.568220c7@JA:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:41 -0700
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
    wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to
    the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to
    pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying
    for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?
    We should take the federal government out of schools.
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?


    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well
    as not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

    Â From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    It is rational to believe funding education promotes general public
    purposes by providing for a better educated public.

    The public is not better educated. Just the opposite.

    Go ahead, support your claim. But do note that failures like your own glorous self do not disprove the benefit.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/10/08/230462954/study-u-s-adults-below-average-in-literacy-basic-math

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 08:00:21 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu00kt$2fo43$5@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    ==============
    As George Washington ended his term as the first president of the United States, he left with a few parting words. Washington's Farewell Address
    of 1796 delineated many of the recommendations Washington had for the
    future of his country. Amongst these suggestions was a public education system. Washington instructed American leaders to "promote. institutions
    for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of
    a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened." Washington saw the importance of
    educating the American public as a means to grow the country
    economically, but also to create a well-informed populace to participate
    in America's newly founded democracy.

    https://ushistoryscene.com/article/rise-of-public-education/

    Baxter sees promotion and being a mandate.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 07:59:20 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu00eo$2fo43$4@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >>>news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I. >>>>>>>>
    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties,
    imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common
    defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend
    for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936),
    Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said
    it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that
    remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.


    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a fraction
    of the populace being educated at all. And it became evident that such a system wasn't working. Then the State governments got involved, and
    finally the Federal government. Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education. And we're still working on that today.

    And yet. the quality of our education has been DECLINING.. maybe we aren't working hard enough at education and to much on indoctrination?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 08:01:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:utvbr5$2ba3d$5@dont-email.me...
    Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in news:MbEMN.105038$_a1e.20201@fx16.iad:

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they teach is that if you are male you are female and you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to >>>>>>>>>>>>> pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by >>>>>>>>>>>>> not paying for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the >>>>>>>>>>>> schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools.Â
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools? >>>>>>>>>
    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as >>>>>>> not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause >>>>>>> in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

    Â From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to
    the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S.
    640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution.

    That argument can only be made by slimy sophists. The framers
    definitely did not anticipate or want the federal government to be
    doing the bulk of what it currently does.



    The frimers of the Constitution had no inkling of things to come.

    That's why they including the Amendment process.

    There's this thing called "progress" that you absolutely hate.

    Were as you hate the government actually being held to the law.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 27 08:02:16 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:66034ae8$0$3158692$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <utvbr5$2ba3d$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in
    news:MbEMN.105038$_a1e.20201@fx16.iad:

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
    wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the
    Public Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund
    those private schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing
    they teach is that if you are male you are female and you
    need to wear a dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth? Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to
    the Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to
    pay for it.' 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by
    not paying for those public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the
    schools?

    We should take the federal government out of schools.Â
    According to the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not
    participate in schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation
    must be authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as
    not prohibited by something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

    Â From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to
    the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S.
    640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution.

    That argument can only be made by slimy sophists. The framers
    definitely did not anticipate or want the federal government to be
    doing the bulk of what it currently does.



    The frimers of the Constitution had no inkling of things to come.
    There's this thing called "progress" that you absolutely hate.

    Assuming again?

    Yea, particularly when we consider how involved so many of the Founding
    Fathers were involved in progress.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 08:03:04 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message news:i9h60j9p5djt6kb06d3ebff5iek9srksu6@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 08:21:33 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties,
    imposts
    and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and
    general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for
    the
    "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering v.
    Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    So you believe the federals have free rein. Why am I not surprised...

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton said it >>wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and that remains
    the law today.

    Doesn't make it right.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 08:04:15 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu003s$2fo43$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in news:fkIMN.127072$6ePe.65484
    @fx42.iad:

    On 3/25/2024 8:50 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social construct. >>>>> ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys
    that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and
    roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as
    relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies
    from society to society and can change over time.
    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.

    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Only if recent means since the dawn of history.


    So History began in the lates 1700's?!! It wasn't until 1776 that they
    found out that sperm were involved in reporduction. And another 100
    years after that before they figured out the sperm fertilzed the egg.

    And yet, we've known for thousands of years, that sex causes babies.

    Sure, we might not understand the exact specifics of conception.. but we
    sure did understand that fucking was involved.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 07:30:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <utvvp1$2fo43$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66034aa1$0$3158691$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utvbhf$2ba3d$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:6602e9c1$0$2077923$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <utuoj2$1sbs5$2@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:utuc7f $1pkpm$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uttd51$1err8$3@dont-email.me...
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:Q_nMN.686852$xHn7.303646@fx14.iad:

    On 3/24/2024 9:30 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Contrary to the oft-heard mantra, gender is NOT a social
    construct.

    ==============
    Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and
    boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms,
    behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl
    or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social
    construct, gender varies from society to society and can
    change over time.

    https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender

    That's only a recent hijacking and redefinition of the term.
    It's historically false and even today is inaccurate and
    incomplete at best.


    Knowledge about conception is recent too.

    Bullshit.. we've understood the reasons for thousands of years
    if not longer.

    Bullshit yourself.

    ============
    Why It Took Scientists So Long to Figure Out Where Babies Come
    From

    Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as
    recently as 1875.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/discovery-where-babies-come-f
    rom

    ============
    Until 1875, no one in the world knew where babies come from.
    Ordinary people didn?t know, and neither did the scientists who
    helped shape the modern world. Leonardo da Vinci didn?t know,
    Galileo didn?t know, Isaac Newton didn?t know.

    They knew, that is, that men and women have sex and as a result,
    sometimes, babies, but they did not know how those babies are
    created. They did not know that women produce eggs, and when they
    finally discovered sperm cells, they did not know that those
    wriggly tadpoles had anything to do with babies and pregnancy.
    (The leading theory was that they were parasites, perhaps related
    to the newly discovered mini- creatures that swam in drops of pond
    water. This was Newton?s view.)

    https://observer.com/2017/06/the-story-of-the-quest-to-discover-whe
    re- babies-come-from-family-history-reproduction-sex/

    =================

    So your "Personhood at point of conception" is recent and has NOT
    been around for "thousands of years"

    You are just trolling.


    IOW, you hate science and history.

    Did I say that?

    Yeah - when you said "trolling". I present science and history and you
    call it "trolling"


    Why know I didn't. But you did. Why do your type
    always assume?


    Assuming

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 14:57:23 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >>>>news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article >>>>>>>>> I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, >>>>>>> imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common >>>>>>> defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend
    for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936),
    Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton
    said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and
    that remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>>>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>>>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.


    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a
    fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became evident
    that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.


    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not National government!


    and
    finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems? And you don't see
    a problem?


    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History? 50 different versions of how to
    do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?


    And we're still
    working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different one too.


    https://thehill.com/opinion/education/579750-many-of-americas-black-you ths-cannot-read-or-do-math-and-that-imperils-us/

    Local education has failed them. That article is a call for MORE involvement of the
    Federal government - not less.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Wed Mar 27 11:30:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >>>>>news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article >>>>>>>>>> I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, >>>>>>>> imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common >>>>>>>> defense and general welfare of the United States."


    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend >>>for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), >>>Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton
    said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, and >>>>>> that remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was >>>>>written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air >>>>>travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.


    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a
    fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became evident >>>that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.

    No surprise that you can't back up your claim.

    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not National >government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    and
    finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems? And you don't see
    a problem?

    No. What problems do YOU see?

    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History?

    That happens already, Dumbass.

    50 different versions of how to
    do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?


    And we're still
    working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different one too.

    Many Universities teach different versions of history...

    https://thehill.com/opinion/education/579750-many-of-americas-black-you
    ths-cannot-read-or-do-math-and-that-imperils-us/

    Local education has failed them.

    *Public* local education has failed....

    That article is a call for MORE involvement of the
    Federal government - not less.

    The public school system has gone steaduly downhill since the feds got
    involved

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Mar 27 11:21:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/26/2024 8:35 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution was
    written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? Or air
    travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    ==============
    As George Washington ended his term as the first president of the United States, he left with a few parting words. Washington’s Farewell Address
    of 1796 delineated many of the recommendations Washington had for the
    future of his country. Amongst these suggestions was a public education system. Washington instructed American leaders to “promote… institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of
    a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.†Washington saw the importance of
    educating the American public as a means to grow the country
    economically, but also to create a well-informed populace to participate
    in America’s newly founded democracy.

    https://ushistoryscene.com/article/rise-of-public-education/

    But by state and local governments, not by a central federal authority.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 11:42:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...
    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not National government!


    Tell us the difference.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 11:39:17 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in
    news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:
    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes,
    duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for
    the common defense and general welfare of the United States."

    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for >>>>>>>> the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering >>>>>>>> v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific
    mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton
    said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view,
    and that remains the law today.

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution
    was written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways?
    Or air travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a
    fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became
    evident that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.

    Have you read the Federalist Papers? Easy reading, right? Just zip right through
    them....

    "The Federalist Papers is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the collective pseudonym "Publius" to promote the ratification of the Constitution of the United States. The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The Federalist Papers emerged in the twentieth century.

    "The first seventy-seven of these essays were published serially in the Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between October 1787 and April 1788... The last eight papers (Nos. 78-85) were republished in the New York newspapers between June 14 and August 16, 1788.

    "The authors of The Federalist intended to influence the voters to ratify the Constitution...."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_papers

    In other words, they were written for the common man to comprehend and contemplate.

    Many high school seniors would struggle to make it through one today.

    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    and finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems?
    And you don't see a problem?

    That's a feature, not a bug.

    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History? 50 different
    versions of how to do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?

    May the best version win!

    And we're still working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different
    one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to maximusheadroom@gmx.com on Wed Mar 27 16:55:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:39:17 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in
    news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:
    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes,
    duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for >>>>>>>>> the common defense and general welfare of the United States."

    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend for >>>>>>>>> the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), Helvering >>>>>>>>> v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific >>>>>>> mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton >>>>>>> said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view,
    and that remains the law today.

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution
    was written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways?
    Or air travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and
    the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a
    fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became
    evident that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.

    Have you read the Federalist Papers? Easy reading, right? Just zip right through
    them....

    "The Federalist Papers is a collection of 85 articles and essays written by >Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the collective pseudonym >"Publius" to promote the ratification of the Constitution of the United States.
    The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The >Federalist Papers emerged in the twentieth century.

    "The first seventy-seven of these essays were published serially in the >Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between >October 1787 and April 1788... The last eight papers (Nos. 78-85) were >republished in the New York newspapers between June 14 and August 16, 1788.

    "The authors of The Federalist intended to influence the voters to ratify the >Constitution...."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_papers

    In other words, they were written for the common man to comprehend and >contemplate.

    Many high school seniors would struggle to make it through one today.

    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    and finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems?
    And you don't see a problem?

    That's a feature, not a bug.

    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History? 50 different
    versions of how to do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?

    May the best version win!

    And we're still working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different
    one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?


    Good golly, miss Molly, teaching a different version of history than
    what the federal government wants taught?

    Slap your little fingers with a ruler.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 21:31:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:gp190j1k98rf5ttbm7pehv8p072qir1sjb@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:39:17 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:



    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still
    different one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?


    Florida is teaching a different, inaccurate version of history

    Good golly, miss Molly, teaching a different version of history than
    what the federal government wants taught?

    Slap your little fingers with a ruler.

    The goal is an accurate history - not revisionist propaganda.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 21:32:46 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:qnd80jp04ebeequ4f2jeo7tareo2fpdbpm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >>>>>>news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes,
    duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for >>>>>>>>> the common defense and general welfare of the United States." >>>>>>>>>

    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to
    spend
    for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), >>>>Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no
    specific mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton >>>>>>> said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view,
    and that remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution
    was written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways?
    Or air travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution
    and the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.


    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a
    fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became
    evident that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.

    No surprise that you can't back up your claim.

    IOW, your fingers are broken.

    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school


    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    You got anything to back up that claim? Like reference specific State Constitution passages? And ALL States?


    and
    finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems? And
    you don't see a problem?

    No. What problems do YOU see?

    I see an uneducated public. I see citizens of one State unable to
    understand citizens of other States. How can you have an Informed Public
    if every State is teaching their kids entirely different
    subjects,history, methods, etc.?


    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History?

    That happens already, Dumbass.

    No, while we do have some different versions of history being taught, we
    don't have 50 different versions. And clearly it would be to our benefit
    to have ONE version of history (subject to review/new findings).


    50 different versions of how to
    do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?


    And we're still
    working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different
    one too.

    Many Universities teach different versions of history...

    Go ahead, give examples.


    https://thehill.com/opinion/education/579750-many-of-americas-black-y
    ou ths-cannot-read-or-do-math-and-that-imperils-us/

    Local education has failed them.

    *Public* local education has failed....

    You conservaturds have certainly been trying to kill it for a long time.


    That article is a call for MORE involvement of the
    Federal government - not less.

    The public school system has gone steaduly downhill since the feds got involved

    Nope.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 14:51:26 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uu237r$32r37$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:gp190j1k98rf5ttbm7pehv8p072qir1sjb@4ax.com:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:39:17 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still
    different one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?

    Florida is teaching a different, inaccurate version of history

    Good golly, miss Molly, teaching a different version of history than
    what the federal government wants taught?

    Slap your little fingers with a ruler.

    The goal is an accurate history - not revisionist propaganda.

    Whose version is accurate?

    NEA's?

    BLM's?

    CCP's

    AFT's?

    NRA's?

    CPUSA's?

    La Raza's?

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Wed Mar 27 17:57:54 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:31:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:gp190j1k98rf5ttbm7pehv8p072qir1sjb@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:39:17 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter >>><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:



    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still
    different one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?


    Florida is teaching a different, inaccurate version of history

    You're entitled to that opinion, not that it will do you any good.

    Good golly, miss Molly, teaching a different version of history than
    what the federal government wants taught?

    Slap your little fingers with a ruler.

    The goal is an accurate history - not revisionist propaganda.


    I'm not going to vote for anyone who be believes we should let the
    federal government decide what is accurate history.

    I'm perfectly happy with the history I learned in grade 1 through
    college...

    BTW, I'm also not going to vote for anyone who be believes we should
    let the federal government decide what news we can or can't see/hear.

    Fact is that I don't trust the federal for much of anything these
    days.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Wed Mar 27 18:14:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:qnd80jp04ebeequ4f2jeo7tareo2fpdbpm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in >>>>>>>news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:

    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in
    Article I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes,
    duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for >>>>>>>>>> the common defense and general welfare of the United States." >>>>>>>>>>

    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to >>>>>>>>>> spend
    for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), >>>>>Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no
    specific mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton >>>>>>>> said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, >>>>>>>> and that remains the law today.


    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution >>>>>>>was written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? >>>>>>>Or air travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution
    and the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.


    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a >>>>>fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became
    evident that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.

    No surprise that you can't back up your claim.

    IOW, your fingers are broken.

    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave
    Roos wrote

    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>National government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    You got anything to back up that claim? Like reference specific State >Constitution passages? And ALL States?

    I was talking about the legal rights specified in the 10th Amendment.

    As for the states' constitutions, the states have the legal right (see
    above) to make those decisions themselves.

    and
    finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems? And >>>you don't see a problem?

    No. What problems do YOU see?

    I see an uneducated public. I see citizens of one State unable to
    understand citizens of other States. How can you have an Informed Public
    if every State is teaching their kids entirely different
    subjects,history, methods, etc.?


    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History?

    That happens already, Dumbass.

    No, while we do have some different versions of history being taught, we >don't have 50 different versions. And clearly it would be to our benefit
    to have ONE version of history (subject to review/new findings).

    Clearly? Perhaps, if it was accepted as the only accurate version.
    OTOH, I think it's beneficial to have different analysises from
    different sources.

    50 different versions of how to
    do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?


    And we're still
    working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different
    one too.

    Many Universities teach different versions of history...

    Go ahead, give examples.

    No, I'm not going to do that, but here's a related statement from: https://phi.history.ucla.edu/nchs/historical-thinking-standards/3-historical-analysis-interpretation/

    "Students need to realize that historians may differ on the facts they incorporate in the development of their narratives and disagree as
    well on how those facts are to be interpreted. Thus, “history” is
    usually taken to mean what happened in the past; but written history
    is a dialogue among historians, not only about what happened but about
    why and how events unfolded. The study of history is not only
    remembering answers. It requires following and evaluating arguments
    and arriving at usable, even if tentative, conclusions based on the
    available evidence."

    https://thehill.com/opinion/education/579750-many-of-americas-black-y
    ou ths-cannot-read-or-do-math-and-that-imperils-us/

    Local education has failed them.

    *Public* local education has failed....

    You conservaturds have certainly been trying to kill it for a long time.

    The teacher's unions are doing that all by themselves. Thank goodness
    that all my grandchildren are in private schools.

    That article is a call for MORE involvement of the
    Federal government - not less.

    The public school system has gone steaduly downhill since the feds got
    involved

    Nope.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Wed Mar 27 18:38:32 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:14 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:qnd80jp04ebeequ4f2jeo7tareo2fpdbpm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    You got anything to back up that claim? Like reference specific State
    Constitution passages? And ALL States?

    I was talking about the legal rights specified in the 10th Amendment.

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    FWIW, I remember disagreeing with their decison on Roe vs Wade.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 15:31:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/27/2024 3:14 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:qnd80jp04ebeequ4f2jeo7tareo2fpdbpm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    You got anything to back up that claim? Like reference specific State
    Constitution passages? And ALL States?

    I was talking about the legal rights specified in the 10th Amendment.

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the
    general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 15:42:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the
    general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your opinion?

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Wed Mar 27 18:44:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the
    general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment. >>
    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your >opinion?


    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to max headroom on Wed Mar 27 17:55:44 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest groups
    backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who crammed a school
    voucher with public funding program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to primary them.

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  • From Sam@21:1/5 to me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nosp on Wed Mar 27 16:01:20 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message >news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.


    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is doing
    in school?



    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school forbid
    kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to? No, it's a
    free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into cross dressing.

    Relax.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Wed Mar 27 16:12:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your
    opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the
    10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is
    prohibited by the 10th Amendment because the Constitution does not
    explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social
    Security - which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution
    must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    Right?

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Wed Mar 27 17:52:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/27/2024 11:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not National >> government!


    Tell us the difference.

    Go do some studying on nationalism in the USA and how the states
    created a federal government of limited powers, reserving to
    themselves those governmental powers the states did not delegate
    to the central government.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 02:49:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:l0590j1l2vs80i1mtb1e45t1a7ssdmm6ja@4ax.com:


    BTW, I'm also not going to vote for anyone who be believes we should
    let the federal government decide what news we can or can't see/hear.

    Fact is that I don't trust the federal for much of anything these
    days.


    ===========
    History of Federal involvement in Education

    The Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision mandated
    the desegregation of public schools and gave the executive branch a legal precedent for enforcing equal access to education.

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) of 1965 was a key part
    of Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty and has set the basic terms of the
    federal government’s involvement in education ever since. Rather than
    mandating direct federal oversight of schools, ESEA offered states
    funding for education programs on a conditional basis. In other words,
    states could receive federal funding provided they met the requirements outlined in certain sections, or titles, of the act. Every major
    education initiative since then has been about recalibrating the balance
    first struck by ESEA. Until 1980, the program was reauthorized every
    three years, each time with more specific guidelines about how federal
    funds were to be used.

    https://capta.org/role-of-federal-government-in-education/

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 02:50:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 02:51:50 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:tp790jpnmvt1ns41ttbddeq81pf0n64jtl@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:14 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:qnd80jp04ebeequ4f2jeo7tareo2fpdbpm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not National government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    You got anything to back up that claim? Like reference specific
    State Constitution passages? And ALL States?

    I was talking about the legal rights specified in the 10th
    Amendment.

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on
    the general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th
    Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to interfere with education.

    FWIW, I remember disagreeing with their decison on Roe vs Wade.

    =============
    History of Federal involvement in Education

    The Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision mandated
    the desegregation of public schools and gave the executive branch a legal precedent for enforcing equal access to education.

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) of 1965 was a key part
    of Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty and has set the basic terms of the
    federal government’s involvement in education ever since. Rather than
    mandating direct federal oversight of schools, ESEA offered states
    funding for education programs on a conditional basis. In other words,
    states could receive federal funding provided they met the requirements outlined in certain sections, or titles, of the act. Every major
    education initiative since then has been about recalibrating the balance
    first struck by ESEA. Until 1980, the program was reauthorized every
    three years, each time with more specific guidelines about how federal
    funds were to be used.

    https://capta.org/role-of-federal-government-in-education/

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Just Wondering on Thu Mar 28 02:53:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:2j2NN.570811$PuZ9.145418@fx11.iad:

    On 3/27/2024 11:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!


    Tell us the difference.

    Go do some studying on nationalism in the USA and how the states
    created a federal government of limited powers, reserving to
    themselves those governmental powers the states did not delegate
    to the central government.


    They found the Confederation did not work, so they created a stronger
    federal government.

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  • From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Wed Mar 27 20:27:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/27/2024 4:12 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your
    opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the 10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is prohibited by the
    10th Amendment because the Constitution does not explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social Security -
    which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    It violates the provisions of Article I because nothing in there grants Congress
    the power to provide welfare payments for retired persons. That's not for general welfare — that's for the welfare of older people.

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  • From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Wed Mar 27 20:25:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/27/2024 3:42 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the
    general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment. >>
    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your opinion?

    It violates all of Article I of the Constitution. So does Medicare. So does school lunches. So does SNAP. So does FSA. So do thousands of federal government
    boondoggles. Anything that is a transfer payment is not for the general welfare;
    it's for the specific welfare of the recipients.

    You can't redefine "general welfare" to mean just whatever a majority in Congress want it to mean because you happen to like the federal government inserting itself wherever it wants.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 21:22:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest groups
    backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their throats on the threat
    of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public and used to pay for schooling.
    Is that a problem?

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 27 21:28:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid> typed:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is
    doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Mar 28 00:57:56 2024
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    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest groups
    backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who crammed a school
    voucher with public funding program down their throats on the threat
    of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Thu Mar 28 03:13:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Thu Mar 28 03:12:36 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:49:14 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:l0590j1l2vs80i1mtb1e45t1a7ssdmm6ja@4ax.com:


    BTW, I'm also not going to vote for anyone who be believes we should
    let the federal government decide what news we can or can't see/hear.

    Fact is that I don't trust the federal for much of anything these
    days.


    ===========
    History of Federal involvement in Education

    The Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision mandated
    the desegregation of public schools and gave the executive branch a legal >precedent for enforcing equal access to education.

    The SCOTUS sometimes come close to where I can trust it.

    You do know, don't you, that the decision was based on the 14th
    amendment (equal protection) and had nothing to do with Feds control
    of the schools.

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) of 1965 was a key part
    of Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty and has set the basic terms of the
    federal government’s involvement in education ever since. Rather than >mandating direct federal oversight of schools, ESEA offered states
    funding for education programs on a conditional basis. In other words,
    states could receive federal funding provided they met the requirements >outlined in certain sections, or titles, of the act. Every major
    education initiative since then has been about recalibrating the balance >first struck by ESEA. Until 1980, the program was reauthorized every
    three years, each time with more specific guidelines about how federal
    funds were to be used.

    https://capta.org/role-of-federal-government-in-education/

    Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty also included paying women to have
    babies and paying them more if they kicked the male grownup out of the
    home.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Thu Mar 28 03:14:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:51:50 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:tp790jpnmvt1ns41ttbddeq81pf0n64jtl@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:14 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:qnd80jp04ebeequ4f2jeo7tareo2fpdbpm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 14:57:23 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not National government!

    Absolutely, because the states have a legal right to do so.

    You got anything to back up that claim? Like reference specific
    State Constitution passages? And ALL States?

    I was talking about the legal rights specified in the 10th
    Amendment.

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on
    the general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th >>>Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    FWIW, I remember disagreeing with their decison on Roe vs Wade.

    =============
    History of Federal involvement in Education

    The Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision mandated
    the desegregation of public schools and gave the executive branch a legal >precedent for enforcing equal access to education.

    14th amendment...

    The Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA) of 1965 was a key part
    of Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty and has set the basic terms of the
    federal government’s involvement in education ever since. Rather than >mandating direct federal oversight of schools, ESEA offered states
    funding for education programs on a conditional basis. In other words,
    states could receive federal funding provided they met the requirements >outlined in certain sections, or titles, of the act. Every major
    education initiative since then has been about recalibrating the balance >first struck by ESEA. Until 1980, the program was reauthorized every
    three years, each time with more specific guidelines about how federal
    funds were to be used.

    https://capta.org/role-of-federal-government-in-education/

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Thu Mar 28 03:22:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:12:51 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your
    opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the
    10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is
    prohibited by the 10th Amendment because the Constitution does not
    explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social
    Security - which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution
    must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    Coiuld be...

    Right?

    I'm not really interested in that issue.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 07:49:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message news:gp190j1k98rf5ttbm7pehv8p072qir1sjb@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:39:17 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:ris70j5f05ip8h4ptc0eru3340if39j5vs@4ax.com:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 02:31:53 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:c4l60jt0tjujc84ib1ghjri5m1610v0lvp@4ax.com:
    On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 20:33:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in
    news:utup64$1srn1$1@dont-email.me:
    On 3/26/2024 1:24 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 16:42:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:33 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 8:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article >>>>>>>>>>>> I.

    I'm sorry to learn you're that retarded.

    Me and the Supreme Court.

    "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes,
    duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for >>>>>>>>>> the common defense and general welfare of the United States."

    SCOTUS has long established a broad Congressional power to spend >>>>>>>>>> for
    the "general welfare." See United States v. Butler (1936), >>>>>>>>>> Helvering
    v. Davis (1937), South Dakota v. Dole (1987).

    Nothing about schools..

    ... or Social Security. But, the Court said in Butler no specific >>>>>>>> mention is required.

    Madison's position was specific mentions were required. Hamilton >>>>>>>> said it wasn't. In Butler, the Court accepted Hamilton's view, >>>>>>>> and that remains the law today.

    There were a lot of things not dreampt of when the Constitution
    was written. Perhaps you'd like to have NO interstate highways? >>>>>>> Or air travel? Or a host of other things we take for granted?

    Yeah, but schools existed back when they wrote the Constitution and >>>>>> the founders did not give the Feds power to control them.

    At that time, there was a hodge-podge of schools - with only a
    fraction of the populace being educated at all. And it became
    evident that such a system wasn't working.

    At least, in your addled brain....

    Read your history.

    Have you read the Federalist Papers? Easy reading, right? Just zip right >>through
    them....

    "The Federalist Papers is a collection of 85 articles and essays written
    by
    Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay under the collective >>pseudonym
    "Publius" to promote the ratification of the Constitution of the United >>States.
    The collection was commonly known as The Federalist until the name The >>Federalist Papers emerged in the twentieth century.

    "The first seventy-seven of these essays were published serially in the >>Independent Journal, the New York Packet, and The Daily Advertiser between >>October 1787 and April 1788... The last eight papers (Nos. 78-85) were >>republished in the New York newspapers between June 14 and August 16,
    1788.

    "The authors of The Federalist intended to influence the voters to ratify >>the
    Constitution...."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_papers

    In other words, they were written for the common man to comprehend and >>contemplate.

    Many high school seniors would struggle to make it through one today.

    Then the State governments got involved,

    AS they should...

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    and finally the Federal government.

    Even though they had no Constitutional power to do so...

    So each State should have completely separate educational systems?
    And you don't see a problem?

    That's a feature, not a bug.

    Why? Because it's to everyone's benefit
    that all kids receive the same quality/etc of education.

    Not exactly, it should be about recieving a high quality education,
    not just the same....

    What?!! You want 50 different versions of History? 50 different
    versions of how to do math? 50 different versions of Grammer?

    May the best version win!

    And we're still working on that today.

    Indeed..

    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still different
    one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?


    Good golly, miss Molly, teaching a different version of history than
    what the federal government wants taught?

    Slap your little fingers with a ruler.

    Might lend some perspective to history that the singular view lacks....

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Mar 28 07:53:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu237r$32r37$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:gp190j1k98rf5ttbm7pehv8p072qir1sjb@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:39:17 -0700, "max headroom"
    <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter >>><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:



    Florida is teaching a different history. And Texas a still
    different one too.

    Teaching a different history or teaching history differently?


    Florida is teaching a different, inaccurate version of history

    It is actually inaccurate or just a different perspective?


    Good golly, miss Molly, teaching a different version of history than
    what the federal government wants taught?

    Slap your little fingers with a ruler.

    The goal is an accurate history - not revisionist propaganda.

    Oh, well if you want accurate history then you're going to need to see it
    from multiple points of views. Looking at it from only one side is not going
    to provide you will accurate history.

    Like how the northern states were requiring that the south sell them their products at below the world market price so that they could increase their
    own profits?

    That sort of accurate history?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Sam on Thu Mar 28 08:04:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Sam" <samt@samt.invalid> wrote in message news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net...
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message >>news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.


    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is doing >>in school?



    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing.

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/25/calif-teacher-helps-students-change-gender-identity-without-parents-knowledge/

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11677513/Teacher-admits-helping-students-change-gender-identity-without-parents-knowledge.html

    https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/teacher-union-promotes-hiding-students-gender-preferences-from-parents

    https://nypost.com/2024/02/01/opinion/family-flees-us-after-teacher-spurs-hides-10-year-old-daughters-gender-transition/

    https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/unions-coached-teachers-to-inject-gender-identity-politics-into-classrooms-report-says-national-education-association-nea-american-federation-of-teachers-aft-randi-weingarten-defense-of-freedom-institute-schools

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/beltway-confidential/2768598/this-is-how-schools-are-trying-to-gender-transition-children-without-parents-knowledge/


    The evidence would suggest otherwise.

    They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves.

    Not their job.

    Should the school forbid
    kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to? No, it's a
    free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into cross dressing.

    Then there is no reason for teachers to put their thumb on the scale then.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 28 07:21:31 2024
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    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to
    primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best manner possible?

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better choice?

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 14:50:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Mar 28 14:50:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7$3 @dont-email.me:

    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress
    and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is
    doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a medical
    issue with the kid and their parents.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 08:16:36 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/28/2024 12:22 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:12:51 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to >>>>> interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your >>>> opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the
    10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is
    prohibited by the 10th Amendment because the Constitution does not
    explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social
    Security - which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution
    must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    Coiuld be...

    Right?

    I'm not really interested in that issue.

    That is, "I'm not really interested in the logical consequences of my arguments. I'm a troll."

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 28 08:31:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7$3 @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid> typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child
    is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Thu Mar 28 11:54:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to noway@nowhere.com on Thu Mar 28 11:57:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 08:16:36 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/28/2024 12:22 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:12:51 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>>>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with >>>>>>> SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to >>>>>> interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your >>>>> opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the
    10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is
    prohibited by the 10th Amendment because the Constitution does not
    explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social
    Security - which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution
    must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    Coiuld be...

    Right?

    I'm not really interested in that issue.

    That is, "I'm not really interested in the logical consequences of my >arguments. I'm a troll."

    Actuallt, I'm not really interested in your change of subject.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Mar 28 12:52:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message news:uu3udp$3khmi$2@dont-email.me...
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to
    primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best
    manner
    possible?

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes that are spent
    on government schools so I can fund a better choice?

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    And think about it.. if government schools would actually provide a good education, most people would probably be willing to use them.

    If they don't then why fund them?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Mar 28 12:57:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7$3 @dont-email.me:

    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>> On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public
    Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private
    schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress >>>>>> and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is
    doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    Cites already provided show otherwise.

    oh, and when did transgenderism require doctors?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Mar 28 13:01:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu404j$3kps7$3@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    What religion is that, and can you prove it's his religion?

    Of course, personally I don't see why we would want America to be great..
    but some people are comfortable only in mediocrity.

    After all... just good enough is all you ever wanted ..

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Thu Mar 28 13:01:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in message news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com...
    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named Dave >>>>> Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    He seems more like someone who wants mediocrity......

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  • From pyotr filipivich@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 28 10:28:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/28/2024 9:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me...
    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and *failed* — to bullshit:

    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>> On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress >>>>>>> and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is >>>>> doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So?  No schools are encouraging transgenderism either.  That's a medical >> issue with the kid and their parents.

    Cites [sic] already provided show otherwise.

    No, they don't, scooter. Neither you nor any of your knuckle-dragging fellow right-wingnuts have produced any citations (not "cites") showing any schools "encouraging" transgenderism. You lied, as usual.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 28 14:55:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <gNhNN.171074$hN14.57595@fx17.iad>,
    pyotrpeckerhead@mindspring.com says...

    On 3/28/2024 9:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me...
    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and *failed* ? to bullshit:

    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:

    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me: >>>>>>> On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach >>>>>>> is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a dress >>>>>>> and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child is >>>>> doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So?  No schools are encouraging transgenderism either.  That's a medical >> issue with the kid and their parents.

    Cites [sic] already provided show otherwise.

    No, they don't, scooter. Neither you nor any of your knuckle-dragging fellow right-wingnuts have produced any citations (not "cites") showing any schools "encouraging" transgenderism. You lied, as usual.

    It's already been posted. All right thinking Americans already know.

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  • From Trump's Bitch@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 28 17:07:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:12:51 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to
    interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your
    opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the
    10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is
    prohibited by the 10th Amendment because the Constitution does not
    explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social
    Security - which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution
    must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    Right?


    Social Security and Medicare are funded by federal income taxes. That
    makes them legal. Don't worry, when they were created people challenged
    under the constitution and the Supreme Court said nonsense because of the
    16th Amendment that allows income taxes.




    --
    As long as we have faith in each other,
    and trust in God, then there is no goal,
    at all, beyond our reach. There is no
    dream too large, no task too great.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Trump's Bitch on Thu Mar 28 18:10:52 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/28/2024 5:07 PM, Trump's Bitch wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:12:51 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:44 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:42:30 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On 3/27/2024 3:38 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 15:31:09 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
    <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:

    {snip}

    Again, SCOTUS has said the feds have a very broad power to spend on the >>>>>> general welfare, and that almost certainly includes education.

    According to you, anyway....

    Of course you (and Johnny, Skeeter, Scout and Rudy) disagree with
    SCOTUS. But, they have the last say on how to interpret the 10th Amendment.

    ...and I have the freedom to say they are wrong to allow the Feds to >>>>> interfere with education.

    How about Social Security? Does that violate the 10th Amendment in your >>>> opinion?

    I don't know. I never gave it any thought.

    It's an important case to test whether funding education violates the
    10th Amendment.

    As I understand your argument, federal funding of education is
    prohibited by the 10th Amendment because the Constitution does not
    explicitly grant the federal government the power to fund education.

    If we accept your argument, then it would seem to follow that Social
    Security - which is also not explicitly authorized by the Constitution
    must also violate the 10th Amendment.

    Right?


    Social Security and Medicare are funded by federal income taxes. That
    makes them legal. Don't worry, when they were created people challenged
    under the constitution and the Supreme Court said nonsense because of the 16th Amendment that allows income taxes.

    Social Security was upheld, but not because of the 16th Amendment. The
    question is not whether the taxation is permitted, but rather what
    spending is permitted.

    In Helvering v. Davis, the SCOTUS held that spending on Social Security
    was permitted by the Article I power to spend on the general welfare.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to max headroom on Thu Mar 28 20:25:16 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to
    primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of
    those parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes that are spent
    on government schools so I can fund a better choice?

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to vouchers.

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not just my own.

    You may be interested to know even a lot of Republican legislators were
    against this program, especially in rural areas because they don't get
    a lot of funding to begin with. But it was jammed down their throats
    anyway.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Fri Mar 29 02:53:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan of history long ago.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Fri Mar 29 02:51:32 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7$3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child
    is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Thu Mar 28 20:51:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the >>>>>>>>>>> Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.' >>>>>>>>>>> 'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools?

    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in >>>>>> schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be >>>>> authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited by
    something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve general
    public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the judgment of
    Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645.
    {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional decision is such >>> that the Court has more recently questioned whether "general welfare" is a >>> judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution.
    But Congress makes the determination of whether funding serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to believe it is.

    Who says they do? Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal government should be able to do whatever it wants to do, as long as it coincides with what you want done. Like father, like son. You despise the very notion that the Constitution should limit what proggies can do when they control the levers of power. All proggies have always felt this way. You claim to have superior vision
    of what is good — the "Vision of the Anointed," Sowell called it — and you hate
    the idea that a constitution might thwart you from implementing the policies that you feel, without any need to prove, would lead to "progress." Your father felt the same way. The Constitution is an impediment to achieving what you "know," with your unwarranted and arrogant moral certitude, "ought" to be done. So any court decision that upholds what you want to be done is "good law," while
    one that doesn't is specious.

    You're a sophist. You're not just a sophist, but you're a proggie anti-constitutional sophist. You fundamentally don't believe in constitutional limitations on you proggies achieving what you want to do. You are fundamentally
    no different from a Trumpswab.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Thu Mar 28 21:55:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/28/2024 8:51 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    {snip}

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause
    in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to
    the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S.
    640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the
    congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding
    serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to
    believe it is.

    Who says they do?

    SCOTUS

    Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Anything that has a rational basis for for helping the people as a whole.
    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal government should be able to do whatever it wants to do,

    I am just stating what the law is.

    You just couldn't resist trolling under a different name.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Thu Mar 28 22:20:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/28/2024 9:55 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 8:51 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    {snip}

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in >>>>>>> Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve >>>>> general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the judgment
    of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. >>>>> {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional decision is such
    that the Court has more recently questioned whether "general welfare" is a
    judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding serves
    general public purposes, except when it is irrational to believe it is.

    Who says they do?

    SCOTUS

    No.

    Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Anything that has a rational basis for for helping the people as a whole.

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    You will now beg the question again.

    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal
    government should be able to do whatever it wants to do,

    I am just stating what the law is.

    You're stating what you think the law ought to be, based on your proggie orientation that says you and your fellow proggies, claiming to have superior vision, should be able to do whatever you want, Constitution be damned.


    You just couldn't resist trolling

    Not trolling, you slimy Jew sophist. I'm stating the facts. "Good law" to you is
    court decisions that allow you and your like-minded proggie statists to get what
    you want. That's all it means.

    Constitutionally ungrounded decisions like Roe are "good" in your view. Equally constitutionally ungrounded decisions like Dobbs are "bad." In both cases, the judgment has only to do with whether they help or hurt your side. That's all it is.

    You're a proggie. You despise the idea of constitutional limitations on the power if they get in the way — as they always do — of you and your fellow proggie statists telling the rest of us what to do. You think you have an unchallengeable superior vision of what society should be like and how it should
    operate, and you hate the idea that a constitution might prevent you from implementing your agenda. Well, fuck you. That's exactly what a constitution is supposed to do. Your vision is not objectively superior to that of others, and you have to play by the rules.

    You are not what you pretend to be.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Fri Mar 29 04:12:09 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan of >history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Fri Mar 29 07:23:32 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to
    primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come
    from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best
    manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of those parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth
    with poor people having more rights than rich people?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Mar 29 07:24:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7$3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child
    is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Assumes facts not in evidence, and doesn't explain teacher promoting and encouraging transgenderism behavior.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Mar 29 07:25:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion


    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Fri Mar 29 07:38:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 9:55 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 8:51 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    {snip}

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause >>>>>>>> in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to
    serve general public purposes, courts should defer substantially
    to the judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U.
    S. 640, 301 U. S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the >>>>>> congressional decision is such that the Court has more recently
    questioned whether "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable
    restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether
    funding serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational
    to believe it is.

    Who says they do?

    SCOTUS

    No.

    Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Anything that has a rational basis for for helping the people as a whole.

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.
    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal
    government should be able to do whatever it wants to do,

    I am just stating what the law is.

    You're stating what you think the law ought to be, based on your proggie orientation that says you and your fellow proggies, claiming to have
    superior vision, should be able to do whatever you want, Constitution be damned.

    You just couldn't resist trolling

    Not trolling, you slimy Jew sophist. I'm stating the facts. "Good law"
    to you is court decisions that allow you and your like-minded proggie statists to get what you want. That's all it means.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding
    precedent. I thought Citizens United was wrongly decided, but it is good
    law that limitations on independent expenditures in campaigns are unconstitutional (no matter what I think ought to be the case).

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Fri Mar 29 14:51:57 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan
    of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than the majority.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Fri Mar 29 07:55:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 9:55 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 8:51 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    {snip}

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in >>>>>>>>> Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve >>>>>>> general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the >>>>>>> judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U.
    S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional >>>>>>> decision is such that the Court has more recently questioned whether >>>>>>> "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all. >>>>>>
    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding >>>>> serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to believe it is.

    Who says they do?

    SCOTUS

    No.

    Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Anything that has a rational basis for for helping the people as a whole. >>
    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the definition of
    general welfare?

    You know you're beaten. Being a proggie sophist, you just won't stop.


    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal
    government should be able to do whatever it wants to do,

    I am just stating what the law is.

    You're stating what you think the law ought to be, based on your proggie
    orientation that says you and your fellow proggies, claiming to have superior
    vision, should be able to do whatever you want, Constitution be damned.

    You just couldn't resist trolling

    Not trolling, you slimy Jew sophist. I'm stating the facts. "Good law" to you
    is court decisions that allow you and your like-minded proggie statists to get
    what you want. That's all it means.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Fri Mar 29 15:03:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in
    news:uu6jou$be9k$1@dont-email.me:


    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding precedent. I thought Citizens United was wrongly decided, but it is
    good law that limitations on independent expenditures in campaigns are unconstitutional (no matter what I think ought to be the case).


    Citizens United is bad law - just like Dred Scott was bad law.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Fri Mar 29 15:01:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uu68s3 $903c$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7
    $3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>> teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child >>>>>>> is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe
    in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want
    to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into >>>>>> cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Assumes facts not in evidence,

    The facts ARE in evidence

    and doesn't explain teacher promoting and
    encouraging transgenderism behavior.


    Teachers/school districts are NOT "promoting and encouraging
    transgenderism behavior".

    That's all just conservaturd hate propaganda. They only support
    transgender students - there is a difference.

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Mar 29 11:30:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 11:03 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu6jou$be9k$1@dont-email.me:


    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding
    precedent. I thought Citizens United was wrongly decided, but it is
    good law that limitations on independent expenditures in campaigns are
    unconstitutional (no matter what I think ought to be the case).


    Citizens United is bad law - just like Dred Scott was bad law.

    Josh is 100% correct, Ball. It is 'good' (i.e. precedent, not
    overturned, etc.) law. But, I can see how the point went over your
    dwarfish head.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Fri Mar 29 11:32:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan
    of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than the >majority.


    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens
    want to make America great again and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Fri Mar 29 08:48:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 7:55 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    {snip}

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the
    definition of general welfare?

    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity,
    arising under this Constitution."

    Helvering (to name one example) presented a case of whether Social
    Security was constitutional. Under Article III, the courts had
    jurisdiction to make that determination which required them to decide
    what spending on the "general welfare" means.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding
    precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

    FFS, you troll. Citizens United - not what I want, but good law.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Fri Mar 29 09:25:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 8:48 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:55 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    {snip}

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the definition
    of general welfare?

    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under
    this Constitution."

    That does not give the courts power to *define* general welfare.

    Helvering (to name one example) presented a case of whether Social Security was
    constitutional. Under Article III, the courts had jurisdiction to make that determination which required them to decide what spending on the "general welfare" means.

    The court doesn't get to create definitions of constitutional terms.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

    FFS, you troll. Citizens United - not what I want, but good law.

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating on the meaning of "good."

    In any case, as a proggie sophist in good standing, you want any interpretation of "general welfare" that lets you get around any constitutional limitation on government power. You want to escape any constitutional limitations altogether.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 11:53:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7$3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they
    teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to
    wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child
    is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school
    forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into
    cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Read that again and see just how stupid it was. You don't know him. How
    do you know what kind of parent he is? CNN tell you that?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 11:54:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan of history long ago.

    It is not a religion, it's a motto. Are all haters like you?

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:07:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <KcsNN.114828$zqTf.33487@fx35.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 3/28/2024 9:55 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 8:51 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    {snip}

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in >>>>>>> Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve >>>>> general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the judgment
    of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645.
    {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional decision is such
    that the Court has more recently questioned whether "general welfare" is a
    judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding serves
    general public purposes, except when it is irrational to believe it is. >>
    Who says they do?

    SCOTUS

    No.

    Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Anything that has a rational basis for for helping the people as a whole.

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    You will now beg the question again.

    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal
    government should be able to do whatever it wants to do,

    I am just stating what the law is.

    You're stating what you think the law ought to be, based on your proggie orientation that says you and your fellow proggies, claiming to have superior vision, should be able to do whatever you want, Constitution be damned.


    You just couldn't resist trolling

    Not trolling, you slimy Jew sophist. I'm stating the facts. "Good law" to you is
    court decisions that allow you and your like-minded proggie statists to get what
    you want. That's all it means.

    Constitutionally ungrounded decisions like Roe are "good" in your view. Equally
    constitutionally ungrounded decisions like Dobbs are "bad." In both cases, the
    judgment has only to do with whether they help or hurt your side. That's all it is.

    You're a proggie. You despise the idea of constitutional limitations on the power if they get in the way ? as they always do ? of you and your fellow proggie statists telling the rest of us what to do. You think you have an unchallengeable superior vision of what society should be like and how it should
    operate, and you hate the idea that a constitution might prevent you from implementing your agenda. Well, fuck you. That's exactly what a constitution is
    supposed to do. Your vision is not objectively superior to that of others, and
    you have to play by the rules.

    You are not what you pretend to be.

    You make him sound like a democrat.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:06:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <PUqNN.731991$xHn7.334914@fx14.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 7:45 AM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/25/2024 4:45 PM, Mike Colangelo wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/24/2024 7:08 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 07:08:42 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
    <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote:

    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 03:02:54 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
    news:VuGLN.723169$p%Mb.330709@fx15.iad:

    On 3/23/2024 7:48 AM, Skeeter wrote:
    In article <utlg6s$3d8um$3@dont-email.me>,
    bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    lloyd <lloyd@demon.net> wrote in
    news:utl8jt$3avdt$2@news.mixmin.net:

    On 22 Mar 2024, GEO <George@Foo.invalid> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>> news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.


    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they teach
    is that if you are male you are female and you need to wear a >>>>>>>>>>>>> dress and make up.

    Ain't that the truth?  Especially in Oregon.

    School vouchers be like:

    'I don't like the public parks, so I want my kid to go to the >>>>>>>>>>> Country Club to play - and I want the Public Parks to pay for it.'
    'oh! and I want my property taxes reduced by not paying for those >>>>>>>>>>> public parks.'

    Who said that? Why did they take trade classes out of the schools? >>>>>>>>>>
    We should take the federal government out of schools.  According to >>>>>>>>> the Constitution it doesn't belong there.


    Where in the Constitution does it say anything about schools? >>>>>>>
    Nowhere, Dummy, that's the point

    Then there's no reason for the Federal government to not participate in
    schools since isn't forbidden.

    That's not the way federalism works. Congressional legislation must be >>>>> authorized by a power delineated in Article I (as well as not prohibited by
    something like the First Amendment).

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve general
    public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the judgment of
    Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U. S. 645.
    {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional decision is such
    that the Court has more recently questioned whether "general welfare" is a
    judicially enforceable restriction at all.

    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the Constitution.
    But Congress makes the determination of whether funding serves general public
    purposes, except when it is irrational to believe it is.

    Who says they do? Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal government
    should be able to do whatever it wants to do, as long as it coincides with what
    you want done. Like father, like son. You despise the very notion that the Constitution should limit what proggies can do when they control the levers of
    power. All proggies have always felt this way. You claim to have superior vision
    of what is good ? the "Vision of the Anointed," Sowell called it ? and you hate
    the idea that a constitution might thwart you from implementing the policies that you feel, without any need to prove, would lead to "progress." Your father
    felt the same way. The Constitution is an impediment to achieving what you "know," with your unwarranted and arrogant moral certitude, "ought" to be done.
    So any court decision that upholds what you want to be done is "good law," while
    one that doesn't is specious.

    You're a sophist. You're not just a sophist, but you're a proggie anti-constitutional sophist. You fundamentally don't believe in constitutional
    limitations on you proggies achieving what you want to do. You are fundamentally
    no different from a Trumpswab.

    I laugh at your TDS. I laugh at your name calling. You are such a shitty
    troll.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:10:24 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <DXBNN.585576$PuZ9.157402@fx11.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 3/29/2024 8:48 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:55 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    {snip}

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the definition
    of general welfare?

    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under
    this Constitution."

    That does not give the courts power to *define* general welfare.

    Helvering (to name one example) presented a case of whether Social Security was
    constitutional. Under Article III, the courts had jurisdiction to make that determination which required them to decide what spending on the "general welfare" means.

    The court doesn't get to create definitions of constitutional terms.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

    FFS, you troll. Citizens United - not what I want, but good law.

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating on the meaning of "good."

    In any case, as a proggie sophist in good standing, you want any interpretation
    of "general welfare" that lets you get around any constitutional limitation on
    government power. You want to escape any constitutional limitations altogether.

    Just like the left.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:08:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <xDANN.165496$zF_1.122546@fx18.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 9:55 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 8:51 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/26/2024 8:21 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:

    {snip}

    In this case, funding schools is authorized by the Taxing Clause in >>>>>>>>> Article I.

    Funding schools is not anything for the general welfare.

     From South Dakota v. Dole (1987):

    "In considering whether a particular expenditure is intended to serve >>>>>>> general public purposes, courts should defer substantially to the >>>>>>> judgment of Congress. Helvering v. Davis, supra, at 301 U. S. 640, 301 U.
    S. 645. {Footnote 2}: The level of deference to the congressional >>>>>>> decision is such that the Court has more recently questioned whether >>>>>>> "general welfare" is a judicially enforceable restriction at all. >>>>>>
    So let's just pretend it's not in the Constitution at all.

    Leaving the footnote aside, The Court argues it is following the
    Constitution. But Congress makes the determination of whether funding >>>>> serves general public purposes, except when it is irrational to believe it is.

    Who says they do?

    SCOTUS

    No.

    Based on what definition of general welfare?

    Anything that has a rational basis for for helping the people as a whole. >>
    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the definition of
    general welfare?

    You know you're beaten. Being a proggie sophist, you just won't stop.

    Rudy made up a new word.


    Face the facts: you're an extremist proggie who believes the federal >>>> government should be able to do whatever it wants to do,

    I am just stating what the law is.

    You're stating what you think the law ought to be, based on your proggie >> orientation that says you and your fellow proggies, claiming to have superior
    vision, should be able to do whatever you want, Constitution be damned. >>>
    You just couldn't resist trolling

    Not trolling, you slimy Jew sophist. I'm stating the facts. "Good law" to you
    is court decisions that allow you and your like-minded proggie statists to get
    what you want. That's all it means.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

    Just like the left, "damn the constitution" as long as we get what we
    want.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:12:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu6kic$bjij$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan
    of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than the majority.

    No they are not. If Biden is the best you can come up with then I know
    the fix is in and we're doomed.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:17:17 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come
    from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best
    manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of those parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:16:16 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com>, Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>>of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than the >majority.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls


    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens
    want to make America great again and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:19:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu68s4$903c$4@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion


    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?



    Most libs are that way.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 12:18:38 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu6l4e$bjij$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uu68s3 $903c$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7
    $3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>> teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child >>>>>>> is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe
    in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school >>>>>> forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want
    to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into >>>>>> cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Assumes facts not in evidence,

    The facts ARE in evidence

    and doesn't explain teacher promoting and
    encouraging transgenderism behavior.


    Teachers/school districts are NOT "promoting and encouraging
    transgenderism behavior".

    That's all just conservaturd hate propaganda. They only support
    transgender students - there is a difference.

    So the videos and story telling times by trannies were all fake?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 11:44:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 8:32 AM, BlueBitch lied:
    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school >>>>>>>>>
    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>>> of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than the
    majority.


    I believe you are wrong.

    No, BlueBitch, he's right.

    Trump favorability rating:

    Unfavorable: 52.5%
    Favorable: 42.6%

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

    I believe the vast majority of US citizens
    want to make America great again and

    A majority believe that reelecting Trump won't achieve that, BlueBitch. A majority believe that reelecting Trump will make America *worse*, BlueBitch.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 11:41:52 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 1:12 AM, BlueBitch lied:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    Trump and MAGA will not do that. They will destroy everything that is and ever was good about America. They will turn America into Russia or worse.



    MAGA is a religion

    That's almost correct. MAGA is a cult.

    - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan of
    history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority

    No, BlueBitch, the polling shows that only a minority of Americans support Trump
    and MAGA. 52.5% have an unfavorable opinion of Trump and MAGA, and only 42.6% have a favorable opinion.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 11:46:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 4:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    The cult of MAGA won't do that, scooter.



    MAGA is a religion

    It's a toxic cult.



    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?

    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter. He's right.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Fri Mar 29 13:45:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-29 18:17:17 +0000, Skeeter said:

    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come
    from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best
    manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of those >>> parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth >> with poor people having more rights than rich people?

    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

    More's the pity.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 14:25:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <QXDNN.116884$_a1e.72891@fx16.iad>, junk@LCMS_shitbags.org
    says...

    On 3/29/2024 1:12 AM, BlueBitch lied:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    Trump and MAGA will not do that. They will destroy everything that is and ever
    was good about America. They will turn America into Russia or worse.

    How? By using our own energy? By letting anyone come here and do what
    ever they want? By allowing criminals to go free with no bail just so
    they can kill someone?



    MAGA is a religion

    That's almost correct. MAGA is a cult.

    No, it's a slogan.

    - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan of
    history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority

    No, BlueBitch, the polling shows that only a minority of Americans support Trump
    and MAGA. 52.5% have an unfavorable opinion of Trump and MAGA, and only 42.6% have a favorable opinion.

    Trump still ahead.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 14:27:24 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <B_DNN.116885$_a1e.3658@fx16.iad>, me4gunzzzzz@centurylink.removeme.this2.net says...

    On 3/29/2024 8:32 AM, BlueBitch lied:
    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school >>>>>>>>>
    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>>> Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>>> of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than the >> majority.


    I believe you are wrong.

    No, BlueBitch, he's right.

    Trump favorability rating:

    Unfavorable: 52.5%
    Favorable: 42.6%

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

    I believe the vast majority of US citizens
    want to make America great again and

    A majority believe that reelecting Trump won't achieve that, BlueBitch. A majority believe that reelecting Trump will make America *worse*, BlueBitch.

    That's not what real people are saying. Did you see the interviews with
    people who voted for Joe are now saying there is no way they would vote
    for him again.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 29 14:29:05 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>, Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...

    On 3/29/2024 4:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    The cult of MAGA won't do that, scooter.

    The cult of WOKE....LOL



    MAGA is a religion

    It's a toxic cult.

    It's a slogan. One that keeps you cowering.



    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?

    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter. He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he
    likes it that way.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sat Mar 30 02:33:07 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 30 02:41:02 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6607248f$0$1643532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>, Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter.
    He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he
    likes it that way.


    The problam is the "again" part. For over half of the American population,
    it has NEVER BEEN GREAT - so they're looking forward - not back.

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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Fri Mar 29 21:21:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 8:48 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:55 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    {snip}

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the
    definition of general welfare?

    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity,
    arising under this Constitution."

    That does not give the courts power to *define* general welfare.

    They have to put forth some standard for what constitutes "general
    welfare" in order to rule on the case presented to them and provide
    guidance to lower courts on future cases. And, they did (they didn't
    define it).

    Helvering (to name one example) presented a case of whether Social
    Security was constitutional. Under Article III, the courts had
    jurisdiction to make that determination which required them to decide
    what spending on the "general welfare" means.

    The court doesn't get to create definitions of constitutional terms.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding
    precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

    FFS, you troll. Citizens United - not what I want, but good law.

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating
    on the meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sat Mar 30 03:38:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:41:02 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in >news:6607248f$0$1643532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>,
    Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter.
    He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he
    likes it that way.


    The problam is the "again" part. For over half of the American population, >it has NEVER BEEN GREAT - so they're looking forward - not back.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/01/trump-black-americans-policies-433744

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sat Mar 30 03:37:15 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to be.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 07:45:44 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uu7u3u$ol5i$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6607248f$0$1643532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>, Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter.
    He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he likes it that way.


    The problam is the "again" part. For over half of the American population, it has NEVER BEEN GREAT - so they're looking forward - not back.

    Did you talk to all of them?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Mar 30 09:35:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu6l4e$bjij$2@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uu68s3 $903c$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7
    $3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid>
    typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about? Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>>> teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child >>>>>>>> is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe
    in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school >>>>>>> forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want
    to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into >>>>>>> cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So? No schools are encouraging transgenderism either. That's a
    medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Assumes facts not in evidence,

    The facts ARE in evidence

    Cite them then.


    and doesn't explain teacher promoting and
    encouraging transgenderism behavior.


    Teachers/school districts are NOT "promoting and encouraging
    transgenderism behavior".

    reports and evidence would suggest otherwise.


    That's all just conservaturd hate propaganda. They only support
    transgender students - there is a difference.

    So in a school, there should be no more than 1 or 2 transgender in 1,000 students. yet advocate teachers seem to have far more than that.

    Seems someone is putting their thumb on the scale by using their position to assert one should be transgender..

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sat Mar 30 09:39:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA> wrote in message news:t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad...
    On 3/29/2024 4:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    The cult of MAGA won't do that, scooter.

    Well we certainly know that Democrats won't.

    But that doesn't answer the question asked.

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    It's pretty simple. You either do, or you don't.

    MAGA is a religion

    It's a toxic cult.

    Says the person who is utterly toxic to anything that doesn't conform to his views.


    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?

    Sounds like it.


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter. He's right.

    If he said Democrats I might believe him. I fail to see how the desire to
    make America great makes it worse.

    Is that why you're so rotten? Every time you tried to get better you failed
    and only made it worse?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Mar 30 09:41:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu7u3u$ol5i$2@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6607248f$0$1643532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>,
    Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter.
    He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he
    likes it that way.


    The problam is the "again" part.

    So you're claiming we've never been greater than we are now?

    For over half of the American population,
    it has NEVER BEEN GREAT

    Which half would that be?


    - so they're looking forward - not back.

    Right because increasing poverty, inflation, economic collapse is so much better to look forward to....

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Mar 30 09:45:17 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu6kic$bjij$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan
    of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority

    Maybe, maybe not, It all depends on how you want to define it. If you are saying that you think America is now the best it's ever been with poverty, violent crime, pollution, corruption, etc.. then you might have a point. If however, you believe we have EVER been better than we currently are then you are MAGA and I think most people would say we had it better than we do know.

    Just ask all those who complain they can't afford a house despite making
    more than their parents could have dreamed of...

    Somehow, I think those is believe that we're the best we've ever been right now.. would be those in the minority. The rest, well they would be MAGA, it
    was better before and they want it to be better again.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 30 09:47:26 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:6607056f$0$6314$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com>, Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL> What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan
    of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority... where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than
    the
    majority.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

    But let's see what the answer is given the real question:

    "Only 23% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-country-headed-wrong-direction-poll/story?id=104633234



    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens
    want to make America great again and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.



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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 30 09:50:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to
    primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come
    from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best
    manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of
    those
    parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of
    wealth
    with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

    I'm sure he doesn't know either.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to skeeterweed@photonmail.com on Sat Mar 30 10:02:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 07:45:44 -0600, Skeeter
    <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

    In article <uu7u3u$ol5i$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:6607248f$0$1643532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>,
    Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter.
    He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he
    likes it that way.


    The problam is the "again" part. For over half of the American population, >> it has NEVER BEEN GREAT - so they're looking forward - not back.

    Did you talk to all of them?


    Actually the black communities were steadily improving from the 20s to
    the late fifties when the Democrats in the Federal government changed
    over from being the party of racisim to the party of making people
    dependant.

    See the history of Harlem and the history of "Sweet Auburn" for
    details.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Sat Mar 30 14:44:25 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu8407$pv0q$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating
    on the meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.


    so following Dred Scott precedent is "good law"?!!

    I'm sure you can find some precedent for ANY decision made.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sat Mar 30 14:47:00 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Sat Mar 30 08:26:07 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/29/2024 9:21 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 8:48 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:55 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 3/29/2024 7:38 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
    On 3/28/2024 10:20 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    {snip}

    Who gets to decide that, and on what authority?

    The courts under Article III.

    What specifically in Article III says the courts get to decide the
    definition of general welfare?

    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising >>> under this Constitution."

    That does not give the courts power to *define* general welfare.

    They have to put forth some standard for what constitutes "general welfare" in
    order to rule on the case presented to them and provide guidance to lower courts
    on future cases.

    They created one out of whole cloth based on their political biases.

    Helvering (to name one example) presented a case of whether Social Security >>> was constitutional. Under Article III, the courts had jurisdiction to make >>> that determination which required them to decide what spending on the
    "general welfare" means.

    The court doesn't get to create definitions of constitutional terms.

    No. Good law is a description of what SCOTUS has held to be binding precedent.

    No. "Good law" to you is law that gives proggies what they want.

    FFS, you troll. Citizens United - not what I want, but good law.

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating on the
    meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.

    Bullshit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Byker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 08:45:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu6l4e$bjij$2@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uu68s3
    $903c$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7
    $3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid> >>>>>>> typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>>>> teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child >>>>>>>>> is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe
    in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school >>>>>>>> forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want
    to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into >>>>>>>> cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So?  No schools are encouraging transgenderism either.  That's a >>>>>> medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Assumes facts not in evidence,

    The facts ARE in evidence

    and doesn't explain teacher promoting and
    encouraging transgenderism behavior.


    Teachers/school districts are NOT "promoting and encouraging
    transgenderism behavior".

    reports and evidence would suggest otherwise.

    Cite them, scooter.

    <crickets>

    That's all just conservaturd hate propaganda.  They only support
    transgender students - there is a difference.

    So in a school, there should be no more than 1 or 2 transgender in 1,000 students.  yet advocate teachers seem to have far more than that.

    There are no "advocate teachers," scooter. You made that up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Josh Rosenbluth@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Mar 30 08:48:07 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 7:44 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu8407$pv0q$1@dont- email.me:

    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating
    on the meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.


    so following Dred Scott precedent is "good law"?!!

    It was good law (binding precedent) until the 13th Amendment. "Good law" doesn't imply the decision was good.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From carcajou@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 08:56:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu6kic$bjij$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school >>>>>>>>>
    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>>> of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority...   where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority

    Maybe, maybe not,

    There is no "maybe" about it, scooter. MAGA, the toxic racist cult founded by the toxic racist wannabe dictator, is in the minority.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Allahu Snackbar@21:1/5 to Scout on Sat Mar 30 09:16:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:50 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>,
    me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>> >>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come >>> >> from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best >>> >> manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of > those
    parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth >>> with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still *SLURRRPPPP*!

    I'm sure *SLURRRPPPP*!


    Get a room, faggots. Take your suck-off fest off line.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jack Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 09:35:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:47 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:6607056f$0$6314$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com>,
    Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>> >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>> >>>of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you >>> >> are in the minority...   where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than >the >>> >majority.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

    But let's see what the answer is given the real question:

    "Only 23% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction."

    That in *no way* means that a majority think the toxic MAGA cult is the right direction. It is *not* the right direction, scooter. It's a regressive cult that
    wants to return America to the bad old days.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Allahu Snackbar@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 09:35:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>,
    me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>> >>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come >>> >> from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best >>> >> manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of > those
    parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth >>> with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still *SLURRRPPPP*!

    I'm sure *SLURRRPPPP*!


    Get a room, faggots. Take your suck-off fest off line.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Royce C. Lamberth@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 09:41:57 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:39 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA> wrote in message news:t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad...
    On 3/29/2024 4:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school >>>>>>>>>
    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named
    Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    The cult of MAGA won't do that, scooter.

    Well

    More empty scooter wheeze

    "Further..." [empty padding]
    "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
    "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately before fleeing]
    "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
    "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless] "Heck..." [empty padding]
    "Well..." [empty padding]
    "After all..." [empty padding]
    "In fact..." [empty padding]
    "Indeed..." [empty padding}

    we certainly know that Democrats won't.

    No, scooter. What we know is that Trump and the toxic and racist and xenophobic MAGA cult won't.


    Do you not want to make America great again?

    Yes, and I know that MAGA won't do that. MAGA is a regressive and toxic and racist cult.


    MAGA is a religion

    It's a toxic cult.

    Says the person who is utterly

    right on everything. Yes.


    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?

    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter. He's right.

    If he said Democrats I might believe him.

    No, bad as the Democrats are, scooter, they are orders of magnitude better than the toxic racist regressive MAGA cult. They don't stage coups and insurrections,
    and they don't call Nazis and KKK "fine people." You and Trump and MAGA do that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Scout on Sat Mar 30 12:06:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-30 13:50:48 +0000, Scout said:

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>,
    me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come >>>>> from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best >>>>> manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of those >>>> parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth >>> with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

    I'm sure he doesn't know either.

    When you two finish your circle jerk here's a story that explains all about it:

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to
    vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers

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  • From Bill Flett@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 09:59:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 6:47 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:6607056f$0$6314$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com>,
    Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>> >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>> >>>of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you >>> >> are in the minority...   where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than >the >>> >majority.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

    But let's see what the answer is given the real question:

    "Only 23% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-country-headed-wrong-direction-poll/story?id=104633234

    *Very* interesting that you'd post this four and a half month old poll result, scooter. Here's what it has to say:

    A year before the presidential election, three-quarters of Americans (76%)
    believe the country is headed in the wrong direction and the leading
    Democratic and Republican candidates are viewed broadly unfavorably,
    according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll. Only 23% of Americans think the
    country is headed in the right direction.

    Republicans are overwhelmingly negative, with 95% thinking things in this
    country are heading in the wrong direction, followed by 76% of independents
    and 54% of Democrats, according to the poll.

    Among the two candidates most likely to face off again in 2024, one in three
    (33%) Americans view President Joe Biden favorably, while former President
    Donald Trump is viewed favorably by only 29%, according to the poll.

    People might not like Biden much, scooter, but they like Trump *even less* than they like Biden.

    95% of Republiscums/QAnon thinking the country is "headed in the wrong direction" is just a fucking joke. They say that *solely* because a Democrat is in the White House. It has nothing to do with the *actual* direction in which the country is headed. The real, verified, non-partisan economic metrics all say
    that the economy is doing great and is likely to continue doing great — not guaranteed, but likely. There are plenty of problems in foreign affairs, but when people express satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the direction the country is heading, they seldom mean that based on foreign affairs. They mean domestically, and people have no valid reason to think domestically we're headed
    in a wrong direction.

    This kind of poll is absurd.

    Pollster: "Do you think the country is headed in the right direction?"

    MAGA fuckwit: "No."

    Pollster: "Why not?"

    MAGA fuckwit: "Umm...errr...ahhh...[koff koff]...I dunno."

    There's never any followup

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 11:32:01 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <UCWNN.757824$p%Mb.354254@fx15.iad>, rc@michigan.ed.u says...

    On 3/30/2024 6:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu6kic$bjij$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>> news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school >>>>>>>>>
    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>>> Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>>> of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you
    are in the minority...   where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority

    Maybe, maybe not,

    There is no "maybe" about it, scooter. MAGA, the toxic racist cult founded by the toxic racist wannabe dictator, is in the minority.

    You make up stories. Trump is ahead of Joe.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 11:33:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <UaXNN.586708$PuZ9.585192@fx11.iad>, j_carlson@gmx.com
    says...

    On 3/30/2024 6:47 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:6607056f$0$6314$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com>,
    Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>> >>>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>> >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>> >>>of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you >>> >> are in the minority...   where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than >the
    majority.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

    But let's see what the answer is given the real question:

    "Only 23% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction."

    That in *no way* means that a majority think the toxic MAGA cult is the right direction. It is *not* the right direction, scooter. It's a regressive cult that
    wants to return America to the bad old days.

    Like rampant crime and rising prices? Tell us how they will do what you
    said. I bet you wont.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to Like when you are on Sat Mar 30 11:21:40 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <2sWNN.757823$p%Mb.622190@fx15.iad>, byKKKer@do~rag.net
    says...

    On 3/30/2024 6:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu6l4e$bjij$2@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:uu68s3 >> $903c$3@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uu5abj$2csc$1@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uu42lb$3lj46$2@dont-email.me:

    In news:uu4030$3kps7$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uu2urh$3crn7
    $3
    @dont-email.me:
    In news:l6jmq0Fg85hU1@mid.individual.net, Sam <samt@samt.invalid> >>>>>>> typed:
    On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:03:27 -0400, "Scout"
    <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:utlfma$3d8um$1@dont-email.me...
    GEO <George@Foo.invalid> wrote in
    news:utkv8c$36001$1@dont-email.me:
    On 2024-03-22, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    What do you think School Vouchers are about?  Strip the Public >>>>>>>>>>>> Schools of any ability to actually educate, fund those private >>>>>>>>>>>> schools that indoctrinate.

    You really think public schools educate? The only thing they >>>>>>>>>>> teach is that if you are male you are female and you need to >>>>>>>>>>> wear a dress and make up.

    More conservaturd propaganda.

    So, schools are NOT encouraging transgenderism?

    Even going to far as to keep parents ignorant of what their child >>>>>>>>> is doing in school?

    No schools are not encouraging cross dressing. They just believe
    in
    freedom for the student to express themselves. Should the school >>>>>>>> forbid kids from singing the star spangled banner, if they want
    to?
    No, it's a free country. Only about 0.5% of the population is into >>>>>>>> cross dressing.

    Relax.

    He wrote "transgenderism," not "transvestism."

    So?  No schools are encouraging transgenderism either.  That's a >>>>>> medical issue with the kid and their parents.

    So why are teachers encouraged to hide it from the parents?

    It's the kids that are hiding, because the parents (like you) are
    abusive.

    Assumes facts not in evidence,

    The facts ARE in evidence

    and doesn't explain teacher promoting and
    encouraging transgenderism behavior.


    Teachers/school districts are NOT "promoting and encouraging
    transgenderism behavior".

    reports and evidence would suggest otherwise.

    Cite them, scooter.

    <crickets>

    Like when you are asked to cite something?

    That's all just conservaturd hate propaganda.  They only support
    transgender students - there is a difference.

    So in a school, there should be no more than 1 or 2 transgender in 1,000 students.  yet advocate teachers seem to have far more than that.

    There are no "advocate teachers," scooter. You made that up.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 11:34:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <ohXNN.133840$Vrtf.62415@fx39.iad>, judge@us.district.gob
    says...

    On 3/30/2024 6:39 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA> wrote in message news:t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad...
    On 3/29/2024 4:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:uu5aei$2csc$2@dont-email.me...
    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    BlueBitch lied:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school >>>>>>>>>
    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>>> Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?

    The cult of MAGA won't do that, scooter.

    Well

    More empty scooter wheeze

    "Further..." [empty padding]
    "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
    "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately before fleeing]
    "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
    "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
    "Heck..." [empty padding]
    "Well..." [empty padding]
    "After all..." [empty padding]
    "In fact..." [empty padding]
    "Indeed..." [empty padding}

    we certainly know that Democrats won't.

    No, scooter. What we know is that Trump and the toxic and racist and xenophobic
    MAGA cult won't.


    Do you not want to make America great again?

    Yes, and I know that MAGA won't do that. MAGA is a regressive and toxic and racist cult.


    MAGA is a religion

    It's a toxic cult.

    Says the person who is utterly

    right on everything. Yes.


    So you're saying you don't want the US to be great?

    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter. He's right.

    If he said Democrats I might believe him.

    No, bad as the Democrats are, scooter, they are orders of magnitude better than
    the toxic racist regressive MAGA cult. They don't stage coups and insurrections,
    and they don't call Nazis and KKK "fine people." You and Trump and MAGA do that.

    More blacks and Hispanics are supporting Trump.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 11:35:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <VxXNN.123454$U1cc.50505@fx04.iad>, an_original@l.a.kings.con says...

    On 3/30/2024 6:47 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, lied:


    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:6607056f$0$6314$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com>,
    Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:istc0jlkbs3u42fk62orvf0hl9ckeiqt9s@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:53:06 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:fk4b0jd0r0b664g9nahhsi60joolqqhfml@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:50:59 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:q36a0jt85thsahmftu9q1jc76s7omjtpjt@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 02:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>> >>>>>>>news:nn590jlng5a2mspus759345k0efg68og9i@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:32:46 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:



    Start with: https://www.history.com/news/13-colonies-school

    I'm not interested in what some guy I never heard of named named >>> >>>Dave
    Roos wrote


    You got your religion and you're not open to facts.


    <LOL>  What religion do you imagine me to have?


    MAGA

    Do you not want to make America great again?


    MAGA is a religion - and your idea of "great" was left in the trashcan >>> >>>of history long ago.

    You have a right to have that opinion, yet the polling shows that you >>> >> are in the minority...   where you belong.


    MAGA is in the minority - yet believe themselves to be even more than >the
    majority.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls

    But let's see what the answer is given the real question:

    "Only 23% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction."

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-country-headed-wrong-direction-poll/story?id=104633234

    *Very* interesting that you'd post this four and a half month old poll result,
    scooter. Here's what it has to say:

    A year before the presidential election, three-quarters of Americans (76%)
    believe the country is headed in the wrong direction and the leading
    Democratic and Republican candidates are viewed broadly unfavorably,
    according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll. Only 23% of Americans think the
    country is headed in the right direction.

    Republicans are overwhelmingly negative, with 95% thinking things in this
    country are heading in the wrong direction, followed by 76% of independents
    and 54% of Democrats, according to the poll.

    Among the two candidates most likely to face off again in 2024, one in three
    (33%) Americans view President Joe Biden favorably, while former President
    Donald Trump is viewed favorably by only 29%, according to the poll.

    People might not like Biden much, scooter, but they like Trump *even less* than
    they like Biden.

    95% of Republiscums/QAnon thinking the country is "headed in the wrong direction" is just a fucking joke. They say that *solely* because a Democrat is
    in the White House. It has nothing to do with the *actual* direction in which the country is headed. The real, verified, non-partisan economic metrics all say
    that the economy is doing great and is likely to continue doing great ? not guaranteed, but likely. There are plenty of problems in foreign affairs, but when people express satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the direction the country is heading, they seldom mean that based on foreign affairs. They mean domestically, and people have no valid reason to think domestically we're headed
    in a wrong direction.

    This kind of poll is absurd.

    Pollster: "Do you think the country is headed in the right direction?"

    MAGA fuckwit: "No."

    Pollster: "Why not?"

    MAGA fuckwit: "Umm...errr...ahhh...[koff koff]...I dunno."

    There's never any followup

    Trump is ahead.

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 10:43:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 3/30/2024 10:06 AM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-30 13:50:48 +0000, Scout said:

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
    news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>,
    me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not >>>>>>>>>>> National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>>>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come >>>>>> from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best >>>>>> manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of those >>>>> parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth >>>> with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

    I'm sure he doesn't know either.

    When you two finish your circle jerk

    That's all it ever is when scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, replies to one of his fellow right-wingnut extremists.

    here's a story that explains all about it:

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers


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  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 30 14:11:35 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    More blacks and Hispanics are supporting Trump.


    oh great, even more criminals

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 30 14:12:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    Trump is ahead.


    yes, a dickhead

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 07:49:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to
    primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the student loans of college grads.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for vouchers.

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes
    that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better choice?



    [crickets]



    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to vouchers.

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not just
    my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for others'.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 13:50:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <17c19d5cab446ed9$125930$1351842
    $60dd6a6a@news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    Trump is ahead.


    yes, a dickhead

    the cubenet moron is back

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 13:51:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In article <VaYNN.157953$t8cc.15420@fx06.iad>, lb@cap.con says...

    On 3/30/2024 10:06 AM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-30 13:50:48 +0000, Scout said:

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
    news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>,
    me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>>>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come >>>>>> from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best >>>>>> manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of those
    parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of wealth
    with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

    I'm sure he doesn't know either.

    When you two finish your circle jerk

    That's all it ever is when scooter, the drunken Virginia camper, replies to one
    of his fellow right-wingnut extremists.

    Look at butthurt Rudy shed tears.

    here's a story that explains all about it:

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to vote for
    school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers


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  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sat Mar 30 15:58:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <17c19d4ef2cee82b$125929$1351842
    $60dd6a6a@news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    More blacks and Hispanics are supporting Trump.

    >
    oh great, even more criminals

    just you wait


    too late

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 30 15:24:32 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <17c1a321d8ad70b6$195373$3326957$e6ddec62
    @news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <17c19d4ef2cee82b$125929$1351842
    $60dd6a6a@news.thecubenet.com>, precent@yohoo.not says...

    Skeeter wrote:
    More blacks and Hispanics are supporting Trump.

    >
    oh great, even more criminals

    just you wait


    too late

    its fate

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sat Mar 30 18:06:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Josh Rosenbluth on Sun Mar 31 02:45:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu9c7n$1301c$1@dont- email.me:

    On 3/30/2024 7:44 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu8407$pv0q$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating >>>> on the meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.


    so following Dred Scott precedent is "good law"?!!

    It was good law (binding precedent) until the 13th Amendment. "Good law" doesn't imply the decision was good.

    Bullshit! It was bad law and required the 13th to fix it.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 31 02:47:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sat Mar 30 23:40:19 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the student
    loans of college grads.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for vouchers.

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes
    that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better choice?

    [crickets]

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it
    on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent. It
    could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry instead of your
    kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private schools
    or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to the
    detriment of public schools.

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not just
    my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology down your
    throat just because they have the big bucks to do it. And threaten
    lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 31 05:27:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens >>>>>
    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that believe otherwise are morons.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 31 15:43:24 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right >>>>>>> direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral College -
    NOT the Popular vote
    ==========
    Hillary Clinton (Democrat, Women's Equality, Working Families) 65,853,514 48.18%
    Donald J. Trump (Republican, American Independent, Conservative)
    62,984,828 46.09%

    https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-
    content/documents/federalelections2016.pdf

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 10:48:04 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right >>>>>>> direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction. >>>>>
    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to >>be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral College -
    NOT the Popular vote
    ==========
    Hillary Clinton (Democrat, Women's Equality, Working Families) 65,853,514 48.18%
    Donald J. Trump (Republican, American Independent, Conservative)
    62,984,828 46.09%

    https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-
    content/documents/federalelections2016.pdf

    He won without cheating.

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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 09:53:43 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/31/2024 9:48 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

    In article <uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right >>>>>>>>> direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction. >>>>>>>
    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that believe
    otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral College -
    NOT the Popular vote
    ==========
    Hillary Clinton (Democrat, Women's Equality, Working Families) 65,853,514
    48.18%
    Donald J. Trump (Republican, American Independent, Conservative)
    62,984,828 46.09%

    https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-
    content/documents/federalelections2016.pdf

    He won

    by cheating. Everyone knows that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 09:56:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest
    groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their
    throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns
    to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the
    student loans of college grads.



    [crickets]



    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are already
    well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for
    vouchers.



    [crickets]



    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes
    that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better choice?

    [crickets]

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it
    on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to
    the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not
    just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for
    others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology down your
    throat just because they have the big bucks to do it. And threaten
    lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem letting billionaires like Soros shove his personal ideology down your throat just because he has the big bucks to do it, and threaten lawmakers with their jobs if
    they don't acquiesce.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 10:31:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that the >>>>>>>> country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used
    to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 31 14:17:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right >>>>>>>> direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction. >>>>>>
    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to >>>be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that believe
    otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral College -
    NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.


    Hillary Clinton (Democrat, Women's Equality, Working Families) 65,853,514 >48.18%
    Donald J. Trump (Republican, American Independent, Conservative)
    62,984,828 46.09%

    https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-
    content/documents/federalelections2016.pdf

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 31 18:32:59 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:660993c5$3$1258322$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the
    right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used
    to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote
    ==========
    Hillary Clinton (Democrat, Women's Equality, Working Families)
    65,853,514 48.18%
    Donald J. Trump (Republican, American Independent, Conservative)
    62,984,828 46.09%

    https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-
    content/documents/federalelections2016.pdf

    He won without cheating.


    Did I say anything about cheating?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sun Mar 31 18:34:03 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used
    to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say otherwise.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Sun Mar 31 18:36:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the
    right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used
    to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020. And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 12:39:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me>, maximusheadroom@gmx.com
    says...

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that the >>>>>>>> country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used
    to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.

    He won.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 12:40:00 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>> news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>> in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>>>>> citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>>>> LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>> to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say otherwise.

    The polls say they are ahead.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 12:16:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In news:uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.

    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    According to the Constitution, you have no say in the selection of a president.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 13:36:51 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>> news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>> in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>>>>> citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>>>> LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>> to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    He won and was president.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 13:39:33 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <jSiON.499598$vFZa.449577@fx13.iad>, "because_\\shitbag \\_was_taken"@gmail.com says...

    On 3/31/2024 12:16 PM, On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and
    *failed* ? to bullshit:

    In news:uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and *failed* ? to bullshit:


    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.

    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    According to the Constitution, you have no say in the selection of a president.

    This is a bad and wrong system inflicted on us by the slaveowners. The electoral
    college was first and foremost implemented to protect slavery.

    He still won.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 13:37:22 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uucafl$1uljv$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020. And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    But he did win the presidency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 31 16:13:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <jSiON.499598$vFZa.449577@fx13.iad>, "because_\\shitbag \\_was_taken"@gmail.com says...

    On 3/31/2024 12:16 PM, On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth
    waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and
    *failed* ? to bullshit:

    In news:uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>> typed:

    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and *failed* ? to bullshit:


    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.

    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    According to the Constitution, you have no say in the selection of a president.

    This is a bad and wrong system inflicted on us by the slaveowners. The electoral
    college was first and foremost implemented to protect slavery.

    He still won.


    https://postimg.cc/3dLgkBph YAY

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From %@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Sun Mar 31 16:12:58 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter wrote:
    In article <uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>>> in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>>>>>>> citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>>>>>> LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>> to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    He won and was president.


    https://postimg.cc/3dLgkBph YAY

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 20:55:46 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 31 Mar 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:uuca8q$1uljv$1@dont-email.me:

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:660993c5$3$1258322$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the
    right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used
    to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote
    ==========
    Hillary Clinton (Democrat, Women's Equality, Working Families)
    65,853,514 48.18%
    Donald J. Trump (Republican, American Independent, Conservative)
    62,984,828 46.09%

    https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-
    content/documents/federalelections2016.pdf

    He won without cheating.


    Did I say anything about cheating?

    You inferred it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 14:06:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/31/2024 12:36 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

    In article <uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>> news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>>> in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>>>>>>> citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>>>>>> LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>> to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    He won

    due to cheating.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From super70s@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sun Mar 31 16:08:37 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who
    crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around
    especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it
    on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire
    departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out
    to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to
    the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy
    schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can
    easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    I thought you wingerdingers were against waste in goverment.

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not
    just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for
    others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem letting
    billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology down your
    throat just because they have the big bucks to do it. And threaten
    lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem letting billionaires like Soros

    Show me an example of Soros giving money and then threatening lawmakers
    if they don't abide by his wishes, asshole.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Sun Mar 31 17:40:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 16:10:39 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 3/31/2024 12:39 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

    In article <jSiON.499598$vFZa.449577@fx13.iad>, "because_\\shitbag \\_was_taken"@gmail.com says...

    On 3/31/2024 12:16 PM, On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth
    waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and
    *failed* ? to bullshit:

    In news:uucach$1uljv$3@dont-email.me, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> >>> typed:

    On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried ? and *failed* ? to bullshit:


    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.

    maybe, but the fact remains that tRump lost the popular vote.

    According to the Constitution, you have no say in the selection of a president.

    This is a bad and wrong system inflicted on us by the slaveowners. The electoral
    college was first and foremost implemented to protect slavery.

    He still won.

    by cheating.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 16:23:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it
    on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire
    departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there *are*
    alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out to the
    private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating schools does
    not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In fact, fascists probably
    *want* the government to own and operate schools, so they can ensure the fascist
    indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction should be no
    different.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to
    the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy schools
    because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Sun Mar 31 19:29:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire
    departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector. >>
    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out
    to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating
    schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In
    fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate
    schools, so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income
    families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to
    buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain
    medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or
    electronic benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like
    apples and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food
    assistance program already in existence.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to
    the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy
    schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can
    easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    And like I said earlier even some Republican legislators from rural
    areas were against this voucher free-for-all that's been pushed through.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 18:57:34 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved >>>>>>>>>>> but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special
    interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like
    those who crammed a school voucher with public funding
    program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot
    of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go
    around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education
    spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the
    student loans of college grads.






    [crickets]






    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are
    already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for
    vouchers.






    [crickets]






    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes
    that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better
    choice?

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and
    spend it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or
    police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a
    civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Shouldn't that money go to the best schooling available?

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling
    out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    That's the point, dweeb--that tax money could be better spent on non-government schooling.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    You first.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha... now I'm a fascist because I want better
    schools.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not
    to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they
    can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    Cite?

    I thought you wingerdingers were against waste in goverment.

    Like government schools? You bet!

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not
    just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for
    others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology
    down your throat just because they have the big bucks to do it.
    And threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like Soros shove his personal ideology down
    your throat just because he has the big bucks to do it, and
    threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    Show me an example of Soros giving money and then threatening
    lawmakers if they don't abide by his wishes, asshole.

    How many election campaigns has he financed?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Apr 1 03:12:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6609ae01$0$1082217 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that
    the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it
    used
    to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say
    otherwise.

    The polls say they are ahead.


    And yet he has never won the Popular vote - regardless of what the polls
    said.

    And anyone who can compare Biden's Easter message with tRump's Easter
    message and still vote for tRump is totally immoral and corrupt.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Jon Brady on Mon Apr 1 03:15:45 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Jon Brady <jbrady@amazon.com> wrote in news:uucikj$2gt$2@toxic.dizum.net:

    On 31 Mar 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me:


    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say
    otherwise.

    This kind of "Conservaturd"?

    https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/2020march-washsqpark-gty-ps- 210528_1622207801081_hpMain.jpg


    What makes you think that's a conservaturd? What make you think they think they are in the majority?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Apr 1 03:18:20 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c1mj0j5sjimic9jekf3vaivjgaltbdm39q@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    Then you should own up to how he got "elected" and quit claiming you
    MAGAts are in the majority.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 31 21:08:42 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there >>>> *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector. >>>
    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out to >>> the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating schools >> does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In fact, fascists >> probably *want* the government to own and operate schools, so they can ensure
    the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families for
    food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy groceries in >> government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks and >> dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government
    clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic benefit cards and let them buy >> the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction should
    be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance program already in existence.

    There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than there should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income people. All public financing of schooling should be through vouchers.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>> the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy
    schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can easily
    afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    I'll bet they are.

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  • From J Ecker@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 04:35:28 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 31 Mar 2024, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> posted some news:egmON.615206$c3Ea.458041@fx10.iad:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved >>>>>>>>>>>> but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special
    interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like >>>>>>>>>> those who crammed a school voucher with public funding
    program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot of >>>>>>>>>> money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go
    around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education
    spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend
    it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or
    fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized
    society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling
    out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating
    schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In
    fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate
    schools, so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Like queers are doing in the present era to force acceptance of their
    mental illness as "normal". It's not happening.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income
    families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them
    to buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live
    in government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or
    electronic benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from
    the suppliers they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    Remove social activism from schools. It has no place there.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to
    vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not
    to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can
    easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Unions hate vouchers. It removes the leverage they have to advance their agendas.

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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Apr 1 06:04:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 03:18:20 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:c1mj0j5sjimic9jekf3vaivjgaltbdm39q@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral >>>>>College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    Then you should own up to how he got "elected" and quit claiming you
    MAGAts are in the majority.

    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority, yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 07:08:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "%" <precent@yohoo.not> wrote in message news:17c19d4ef2cee82b$125929$1351842$60dd6a6a@news.thecubenet.com...
    Skeeter wrote:
    More blacks and Hispanics are supporting Trump.


    oh great, even more criminals

    No, the percentage of criminals that are black and Hispanic are still a very small minority of the total.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Apr 1 07:10:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message news:66081789$0$1129681$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu7u3u$ol5i$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
    news:6607248f$0$1643532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <t0ENN.116886$_a1e.96613@fx16.iad>,
    Iron_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA says...


    He's saying that MAGA is a cult that makes America worse, scooter.
    He's right.

    He's saying he doesn't want to make America great. It sucks now and he
    likes it that way.


    The problam is the "again" part. For over half of the American
    population,
    it has NEVER BEEN GREAT - so they're looking forward - not back.

    Did you talk to all of them?

    Of course not, if he did the overwhelming majority of then would say they
    are worse off now than they were 20 years ago

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Mon Apr 1 07:16:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:uu9gqp$145ej$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-30 13:50:48 +0000, Scout said:

    "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
    news:660705ac$0$6335$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
    In article <uu68s2$903c$2@dont-email.me>,
    me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message
    news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>> not
    National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns to >>>>>>>>> primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which come >>>>>> from
    taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the best >>>>>> manner
    possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo. Most of
    those
    parents with kids in private schools are already well off.

    So you feel that how you are treated should depend on your level of
    wealth
    with poor people having more rights than rich people?




    I am still trying to figure out what his argument is.

    I'm sure he doesn't know either.

    When you two finish your circle jerk here's a story that explains all
    about it:

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to vote
    for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers

    Well, shit, you're telling us that law makers might actually lose their jobs
    if they don't do what their constituents want?

    I can see why a liberal might find that to be something underhanded... where
    as for conservatives we sort of consider that doing the job they were
    elected to do.

    You, know, to enact the sort of legislation the voters actually want.

    {plonk}

    Drop another Rudy into the junk folder.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:21:50 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uu98g8$1223f$2@dont-email.me...
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu8407$pv0q$1@dont- email.me:

    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating
    on the meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.


    so following Dred Scott precedent is "good law"?!!

    I'm sure you can find some precedent for ANY decision made.

    Just goes to show nothing is perfect, but in general SCOTUS does apply good law.

    Certainly better than the law being created by the other 2 branches of government.

    I refer to all those cases in which such law was overturned...

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:27:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uuaip5$1fj3e$1@dont-email.me...
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu9c7n$1301c$1@dont- email.me:

    On 3/30/2024 7:44 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:uu8407$pv0q$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 3/29/2024 9:25 AM, Lou Bricano wrote:

    You have fabricated your definition of "good law." You're equivocating >>>>> on the meaning of "good."

    No, I have always used "good law" to describe binding precedent.


    so following Dred Scott precedent is "good law"?!!

    It was good law (binding precedent) until the 13th Amendment. "Good law"
    doesn't imply the decision was good.

    Bullshit! It was bad law and required the 13th to fix it.

    Then by definition it was good law under the Constitution, otherwise the Constitution wouldn't have needed to be changed QED.
    Further we amended the Constitution because we realized there was a problem.

    Democrats, on the other hand, would have never allowed the 13th Amendment,
    and most certainly tried to prevent it's passage.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:32:18 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uuais9$1fj3e$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US citizens >>>>>
    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right
    direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    He won the vote that counted. Oh, you think that's the popular vote?

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:33:00 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the right >>>>>>>> direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong direction. >>>>>>
    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used to >>>be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that believe
    otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral College -
    NOT the Popular vote

    Translation: Trump won the 2016 election.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:42:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>>>>>> citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>>>>> LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>> to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say otherwise.

    Then it must really suck, that you STILL can't win...

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:43:17 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uud8mb$290b3$1@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6609ae01$0$1082217 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that
    the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it
    used
    to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say
    otherwise.

    The polls say they are ahead.


    And yet he has never won the Popular vote - regardless of what the polls said.

    What makes you think he needed to, or needs to?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:45:30 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uucafl$1uljv$4@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020. And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    ... and yet was still elected.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Apr 1 07:46:25 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uud91s$290b3$3@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c1mj0j5sjimic9jekf3vaivjgaltbdm39q@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral >>>>>College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    Then you should own up to how he got "elected" and quit claiming you
    MAGAts are in the majority.

    You're the only one that seems to be complaining about how he was
    elected....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Mon Apr 1 07:51:29 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which
    come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the
    best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it
    on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire
    departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there
    *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools away.

    Sure it does. We decide what will be done with our money. We decided it
    wasn't fair to deny parents some portion of the money they were spending on schools they weren't using.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to super70s@super70s.invalid on Mon Apr 1 07:52:57 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:uucv57$23bgc$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out
    to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating
    schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In
    fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate schools,
    so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income
    families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to
    buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live in
    government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain
    medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic
    benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from the suppliers
    they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples
    and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance program already in existence.

    Yes, and $34.6 Trillion dollars later....... maybe it's time to reconsider that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 05:46:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> >>>> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there >>>> *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector. >>>
    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out to >>> the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating schools >> does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In fact, fascists >> probably *want* the government to own and operate schools, so they can ensure
    the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families for
    food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy groceries in >> government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks and >> dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government
    clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic benefit cards and let them buy >> the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction should
    be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance program already in existence.

    There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than there should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income people or government commissaries where lower income people are forced to shop for groceries. All public financing of schooling should be through vouchers.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>> the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy
    schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can easily
    afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    Yes, they are.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Mon Apr 1 15:01:08 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Mon Apr 1 12:43:17 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 11:23:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uud8mb$290b3$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6609ae01$0$1082217 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

    In article <uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
    news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US
    citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For
    LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that
    the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it
    used
    to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say
    otherwise.

    The polls say they are ahead.


    And yet he has never won the Popular vote - regardless of what the polls said.

    And anyone who can compare Biden's Easter message with tRump's Easter
    message and still vote for tRump is totally immoral and corrupt.

    Biden was at a fund raiser and promoting fags. Trump attended a funeral
    the day before while Joe bagged for money.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 11:24:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uud91s$290b3$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c1mj0j5sjimic9jekf3vaivjgaltbdm39q@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral >>>>College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    Then you should own up to how he got "elected" and quit claiming you
    MAGAts are in the majority.

    He got voted in. That's how it works. How did Joe get 81 million votes
    on top yet his ratings are so low?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 11:25:12 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com>, Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 03:18:20 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:c1mj0j5sjimic9jekf3vaivjgaltbdm39q@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral >>>>>College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    Then you should own up to how he got "elected" and quit claiming you
    MAGAts are in the majority.

    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority, yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.

    He is. The interviews don't lie.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 12:07:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uue846$2fn6l$16@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uud91s$290b3$3@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:c1mj0j5sjimic9jekf3vaivjgaltbdm39q@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 18:36:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:h6aj0jt79lu66hn03bkqeb65uvvse3k3oc@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:43:24 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>>>>news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:

    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote
    in
    news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small
    minority of people think that the country is headed in the >>>>>>>>>>>> right direction backs that up.


    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>>>> to
    be.


    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>


    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.


    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral >>>>>College - NOT the Popular vote

    <SNICKER> The popular vote isn't what counts, Dummy, in fact the
    popular vote is totally insignificant.

    Well, it wasn't "totally insignificant" in 2020.

    It's totally insignifiant in every Presidential election.

    And the fact remains
    that tRump has NEVER, ever won the popular vote.

    I'm pretty sure that was never his goal, at least not his primary
    goal.

    Then you should own up to how he got "elected" and quit claiming you
    MAGAts are in the majority.

    You're the only one that seems to be complaining about how he was
    elected....



    That's ironic.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 12:14:27 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uue83v$2fn6l$11@dont-email.me>, me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uucaaq$1uljv$2@dont-email.me...
    "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in news:uuc7vu$1u4b4$3@dont-email.me:

    In news:uuc0as$1s66l$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:f0bi0j9qsiuu969l46go3js2ao12jhu5o6@4ax.com:
    On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 02:47:37 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in
    news:b63h0jdiv9l8vjgojjk8s06dcn93hk8sh1@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 14:47:00 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>>> news:6tff0jhrbovvuu187egshu48m8n8jf5r4f@4ax.com:
    On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:33:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:ngnd0jlqiodntsplp6ou15pl36s5hpenja@4ax.com:

    I believe you are wrong. I believe the vast majority of US >>>>>>>>>> citizens

    You live in an echo chamber.

    want to make America great again

    "Great again"? When was it great for blacks? For women? For >>>>>>>>> LGBTQ?

    Great for everyone when Trump was Presodent.

    and the fact that only a small minority of people think that >>>>>>>>>> the country is headed in the right direction backs that up.

    Women, for one, certainly think it's going in the wrong
    direction.

    Biden leads a little with all women, but not as much as it used >>>>>>>> to be.

    Yet somehow tRump has NEVER actually won an election.

    <EYEROLL>

    Yeah, MAGA cultists think tRump won the popular vote.

    Amost everyone knows that he won the 2016 election. Those that
    believe otherwise are morons.

    He did not win the popular vote in 2016. He got the Electoral
    College - NOT the Popular vote

    And that's what counts.



    Conservaturds keep claiming they are in the majority but the facts say otherwise.

    Then it must really suck, that you STILL can't win...


    The only way they can win is to destroy the competition before the game
    even begins. That is cheating and election interference.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Mon Apr 1 17:10:14 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-04-01 12:46:31 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector. >>>>
    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out >>>> to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating
    schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In
    fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate
    schools, so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income
    families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to
    buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live in
    government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain
    medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or
    electronic benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from the
    suppliers they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like
    apples and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food
    assistance program already in existence.

    There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than
    there should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income
    people or government commissaries where lower income people are forced
    to shop for groceries. All public financing of schooling should be
    through vouchers.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>>> the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy >>>>> schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can
    easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    Yes, they are.

    No they aren't.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to J Ecker on Mon Apr 1 17:14:56 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-04-01 04:35:28 +0000, J Ecker said:

    On 31 Mar 2024, Lou Bricano <lb@cap.con> posted some news:egmON.615206$c3Ea.458041@fx10.iad:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved >>>>>>>>>>>>> but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special
    interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like >>>>>>>>>>> those who crammed a school voucher with public funding
    program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot of >>>>>>>>>>> money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go
    around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education
    spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend
    it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or
    fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized
    society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling
    out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating
    schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In
    fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate
    schools, so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Like queers are doing in the present era to force acceptance of their
    mental illness as "normal". It's not happening.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income
    families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them
    to buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live
    in government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain
    medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or
    electronic benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from
    the suppliers they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    Remove social activism from schools. It has no place there.

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not
    to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can
    easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Unions hate vouchers. It removes the leverage they have to advance their agendas.

    Like getting paid a decent salary? Our "anything goes" voucher program
    is going to take money away from teachers' raises (even if its backers
    will never come out and admit it).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Apr 2 02:30:13 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 22:03:40 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 4/1/2024 3:10 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 12:46:31 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there >>>>>> *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public schools
    away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out to
    the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ... >>>>>>
    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably
    is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating schools
    does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In fact, fascists
    probably *want* the government to own and operate schools, so they can >>>> ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families >>>> for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy groceries
    in government commissaries; don't force them to live in government barracks
    and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain medical care from government
    clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic benefit cards and let them buy
    the things they want from the suppliers they choose. School instruction >>>> should be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples and
    oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance program >>> already in existence.

    There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than there
    should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income people or
    government commissaries where lower income people are forced to shop for
    groceries. All public financing of schooling should be through vouchers.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>>>> the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy >>>>>> schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can >>>>> easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    Yes, they are.

    No they aren't.

    Since you won't identify the state so it can be verified, we'll assume you're lying.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Tue Apr 2 02:28:25 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Perhaps, but neither are the far leftist freaks.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Tue Apr 2 02:12:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-04-02 05:03:40 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 4/1/2024 3:10 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 12:46:31 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending. >>>>>>>
    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo.... >>>>>>>
    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>>>>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; >>>>>>> there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public >>>>>> schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out >>>>>> to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ... >>>>>>>
    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating
    schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In >>>>> fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate
    schools, so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income
    families for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to >>>>> buy groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live in >>>>> government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain
    medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or
    electronic benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from the >>>>> suppliers they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like
    apples and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food
    assistance program already in existence.

    There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than
    there should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income
    people or government commissaries where lower income people are forced
    to shop for groceries. All public financing of schooling should be
    through vouchers.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private >>>>>>>> schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>>>>> the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy >>>>>>> schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can >>>>>> easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    Yes, they are.

    No they aren't.

    Since you won't identify the state so it can be verified, we'll assume
    you're lying.

    Since you assume every state is like your own we'll assume you're an idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From super70s@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Apr 2 02:20:25 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-04-01 11:51:29 +0000, Scout said:

    "super70s" <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote in message news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but >>>>>>>>>>>> not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it >>>> on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire
    departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Sure it does. We decide what will be done with our money.

    Not always, sometimes special interest groups from outside your state
    decide what will be done with your money.

    I know it's not pleasant to hear but there it hangs.

    We decided it wasn't fair to deny parents some portion of the money
    they were spending on schools they weren't using.

    pffft. You don't have a clue what percentage of school money "wasn't
    being used" unless you went around and performed your own personal
    audit.

    As far as my own state goes they're 45th in education spending so it's extremely unlikely they "weren't using" any of it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Apr 2 07:15:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uufqjk$2v57e$1@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Who says it is?

    I mean, hell, by your standards, NO President has ever won an election
    because most people didn't even vote... or Senator.. or Representative.. or pretty much any elected official.

    I mean if we go with the will of the majority.. then no one would be
    elected... because they didn't get over 50% of the people to vote for them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Blue Lives Matter on Tue Apr 2 14:54:55 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ca9n0jhbk1ajpgu34p6r455qvet2drqbka@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never
    claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-
    vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Perhaps, but neither are the far leftist freaks.


    How can that be - you reguard anyone to the left of your own glorious
    self as a "far leftist freaks"?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Apr 2 11:39:53 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uuh67v$391an$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ca9n0jhbk1ajpgu34p6r455qvet2drqbka@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never >>>>>> claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-
    vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Perhaps, but neither are the far leftist freaks.


    How can that be - you reguard anyone to the left of your own glorious
    self as a "far leftist freaks"?

    about the same why you consider everyone to the right of yours to be 'far rightist freaks'.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blue Lives Matter@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Tue Apr 2 12:13:10 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 14:54:55 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:ca9n0jhbk1ajpgu34p6r455qvet2drqbka@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never >>>>>> claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-
    vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Perhaps, but neither are the far leftist freaks.


    How can that be - you reguard anyone to the left of your own glorious
    self as a "far leftist freaks"?

    No, actually, there are people who prefer RFK jr.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Apr 2 12:40:11 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uuh67v$391an$2@dont-email.me...
    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in news:ca9n0jhbk1ajpgu34p6r455qvet2drqbka@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never >>>>>> claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-
    vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Perhaps, but neither are the far leftist freaks.


    How can that be - you reguard anyone to the left of your own glorious
    self as a "far leftist freaks"?

    Just as anyone to the right of you is a "MAGA"?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 2 09:38:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 4/2/2024 12:12 AM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-04-02 05:03:40 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 4/1/2024 3:10 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-04-01 12:46:31 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 5:29 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 23:23:53 +0000, Lou Bricano said:

    On 3/31/2024 2:08 PM, super70s wrote:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved but
    not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special interest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like those who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crammed a school voucher with public funding program down their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> throats on the threat of throwing a lot of money into campaigns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... which >>>>>>>>>>>> come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go around >>>>>>>>>>>>> especially in a state that ranks 45th in education spending. >>>>>>>>
    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in the >>>>>>>>>>>> best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo.... >>>>>>>>
    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and spend it
    on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or police or fire >>>>>>>>> departments or anything else it takes to live in a civilized society. >>>>>>>>
    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; there
    *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public >>>>>>> schools away.

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is spent.... >>>>>>>>
    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling out >>>>>>> to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ... >>>>>>>>
    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it >>>>>>>>> probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    Not wanting the state to be in the business of owning and operating >>>>>> schools does not make one a fascist and is not a fascist position. In >>>>>> fact, fascists probably *want* the government to own and operate schools,
    so they can ensure the fascist indoctrination.

    Modern states typically give financial assistance to lower income families
    for food, housing and medical care, but we don't force them to buy >>>>>> groceries in government commissaries; don't force them to live in
    government barracks and dormitories; and don't force them to obtain >>>>>> medical care from government clinics. We give them vouchers or electronic
    benefit cards and let them buy the things they want from the suppliers >>>>>> they choose. School instruction should be no different.

    This voucher program I'm talking about and SNAP benefits are like apples >>>>> and oranges, the latter doesn't take money away from a food assistance >>>>> program already in existence.

    There shouldn't be a public schools program in existence, any more than >>>> there should be government barracks to provide housing to low-income people
    or government commissaries where lower income people are forced to shop for
    groceries. All public financing of schooling should be through vouchers. >>>>

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>>>> vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private >>>>>>>>> schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not to >>>>>>>>> the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend crappy >>>>>>>> schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they can >>>>>>> easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    School vouchers are means tested.

    Not in my state.

    Yes, they are.

    No they aren't.

    Since you won't identify the state so it can be verified, we'll assume you're
    lying.

    Since you assume every state is like your own

    No need to read past that lie.

    Just identify the state you claim does not means test its school vouchers eligibility.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 3 11:32:06 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <pibo0jtbsla45rkn2ocbhregac230tb2ps@4ax.com>, Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA says...

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 14:54:55 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >news:ca9n0jhbk1ajpgu34p6r455qvet2drqbka@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>news:q0pl0jt93asrnqbn5dfebcesnh45uf4pmh@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Blue Lives Matter <Iron_White@Systemic_Patrriotism.KMA> wrote in >>>>>news:th1l0jh9l814cg2mntkb1cl3sr09pce5d2@4ax.com:


    How he got elected was to get the most electoral votes and I never >>>>>> claimed that MAGA was the majority,

    Bullshit!

    yet Trump appears to be more
    popular than Biden.


    It would appear that wwy in an echo chamber.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump- >vs-
    biden


    And the media said Dewey defeted Truman.

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Perhaps, but neither are the far leftist freaks.


    How can that be - you reguard anyone to the left of your own glorious
    self as a "far leftist freaks"?

    No, actually, there are people who prefer RFK jr.

    I love it. 3rd party to take votes away from Biden.

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 5 13:27:47 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uugavg$32jej$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-04-01 01:57:34 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved >>>>>>>>>>>>> but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special
    interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like >>>>>>>>>>> those who crammed a school voucher with public funding
    program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds...
    which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go
    around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education
    spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in
    the best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the
    student loans of college grads.

    I don't happen to be for that myself, Jiminy Cricket.

    Although many times students sign up for big college loans without
    knowing what they've gotten themselves into, and there's no incentive
    for the lenders to explain it to them because they're making out like bandits.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are
    already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for
    vouchers.

    Cite, Jiminy Cricket?

    https://nextstepsblog.org/2021/06/national-survey-shows-black-parents-continue-to-support-education-choice/

    No parents were "begging for vouchers" in my state, some outside
    special interest group financed by the Kochs just horned their way in
    and forced it on the politicians.

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to
    vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool
    yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes
    that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better
    choice?

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and
    spend it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or
    police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a
    civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Shouldn't that money go to the best schooling available?

    Not at the expense of public schools.

    So you'd prefer inferior government schools be funded before superior private schools. Ok.

    And who are you to say private/homeschooling is automatically better.

    Who are you to say government schools are adequate?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling
    out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    That's the point, dweeb--that tax money could be better spent on
    non-government schooling.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    You first.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha... now I'm a fascist because I want better
    schools.

    No you're a fascist because you don't care if right-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to
    realize it or not).

    So are you a fascist because you don't care if left-wing billionaires force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to realize it or not), or
    a national socialist or a Democratic Socialist?

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes
    to vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not
    to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they
    can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    Cite?



    [crickets]



    I thought you wingerdingers were against waste in goverment.

    Like government schools? You bet!

    No like doling out money to parents willy-nilly who may or may not use
    it to educate their kids.

    So you're unfamjiliar with the definition of 'voucher'. Ok.

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not >>>>>>> just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for
    others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology
    down your throat just because they have the big bucks to do it.
    And threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like Soros shove his personal ideology down
    your throat just because he has the big bucks to do it, and
    threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    Show me an example of Soros giving money and then threatening
    lawmakers if they don't abide by his wishes, asshole.

    How many election campaigns has he financed?

    Hell if I know, probably dwarfs the number of campaigns the bevy of right-wing billionaires you're so enamored with are financing these days.

    Probably does.

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  • From alkanamana@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Apr 5 16:35:41 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 14:54:55 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    ou reguard anyone to the left of your own glorious
    self as a "far leftist freaks"?

    Or gross pedofucks like you.

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  • From alkanamana@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Apr 5 16:37:48 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 02:30:13 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    MAGA is NOT the Majority,

    Tis now.

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  • From alkanamana@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Apr 5 16:38:31 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:01:08 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Bullshit!

    PEDOFUCKER!

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  • From super70s@21:1/5 to max headroom on Sun Apr 7 15:54:50 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 2024-04-05 20:27:47 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uugavg$32jej$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-04-01 01:57:34 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special >>>>>>>>>>>> interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like >>>>>>>>>>>> those who crammed a school voucher with public funding >>>>>>>>>>>> program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot >>>>>>>>>>>> of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds...
    which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go >>>>>>>>>> around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education
    spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in >>>>>>>>> the best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the
    student loans of college grads.

    I don't happen to be for that myself, Jiminy Cricket.

    Although many times students sign up for big college loans without
    knowing what they've gotten themselves into, and there's no incentive
    for the lenders to explain it to them because they're making out like
    bandits.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are
    already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for >>>>>>> vouchers.

    Cite, Jiminy Cricket?

    https://nextstepsblog.org/2021/06/national-survey-shows-black-parents-continue-to-support-education-choice/


    No parents were "begging for vouchers" in my state, some outside
    special interest group financed by the Kochs just horned their way in
    and forced it on the politicians.

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to
    vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers


    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool >>>>>>>> yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes >>>>>>> that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better
    choice?

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and
    spend it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or
    police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a
    civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments;
    there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Shouldn't that money go to the best schooling available?

    Not at the expense of public schools.

    So you'd prefer inferior government schools be funded before superior
    private schools. Ok.

    And who are you to say private/homeschooling is automatically better.

    Who are you to say government schools are adequate?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling
    out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    That's the point, dweeb--that tax money could be better spent on
    non-government schooling.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    You first.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha... now I'm a fascist because I want better
    schools.

    No you're a fascist because you don't care if right-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to
    realize it or not).

    So are you a fascist because you don't care if left-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to realize
    it or not), or a national socialist or a Democratic Socialist?


    "Neener neener." Any money from progressive billionaires is going to
    slow down the steady march by the American right to a full-blown
    authoritarian dictatorship.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes
    to vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not
    to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they
    can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    Cite?



    [crickets]


    https://apnews.com/article/school-vouchers-scholarships-budget-cost-enrollment-20a819f087af0cb1ed5a60ec24cc8216


    In some states, higher-income families can now use taxpayer money to
    cover private school tuition -- and more people than projected are
    taking the offer, which might force scrambles to shore up state budgets.

    It's especially an issue in states like Arizona and Iowa, where at
    least some families whose children were already in private school can
    now take advantage of public funding.

    "It busts the budget because it's taking on as a public expense what's previously been a private cost," said Josh Cowen, an education policy
    professor at Michigan State University.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/private-schools-vouchers-parents-ohio-public-funds



    Private Schools, Public Money: School Leaders Are Pushing Parents to
    Exploit Voucher Programs

    Voucher expansions have unleashed a flood of additional taxpayer
    dollars to the benefit of families already enrolled in private schools.
    In Ohio, some schools are now "strongly encouraging" parents to apply
    for vouchers, regardless of need or income.

    For years the [Ohio] program, EdChoice, targeted mostly lower-income
    students in struggling school districts. Now it is an entitlement
    available to all, with its value decreasing for families with higher
    incomes but still providing more than $7,000 annually for high school
    students in solidly middle-class families and close to $1,000 for ones
    in the wealthiest families. Demand for EdChoice vouchers has nearly
    doubled this year, at a cost to Ohio taxpayers of several hundred
    million additional dollars, the final tally of which won't be known for
    months.

    ...But much of the demand for the expanded voucher programs is in fact
    coming from families, many quite affluent, whose children were already attending private schools. In Arizona, the first state to allow any
    family to receive public funding for private schools or homeschooling,
    the majority of families applying for the money, about $7,000 per
    student, were not recently enrolled in public school. In Florida, only
    13% of the 123,000 students added to the state's expanded school-choice
    program had switched from public school.


    Looks like your head is exploded now, Max.


    I thought you wingerdingers were against waste in goverment.

    Like government schools? You bet!

    No like doling out money to parents willy-nilly who may or may not use
    it to educate their kids.

    So you're unfamjiliar with the definition of 'voucher'. Ok.

    No you're a naive dumbass, as we can all see....

    "Even in the states with enrollment over projections, it's early enough
    in the school year that the situation is still rife with unknowns,
    including how many of the families approved for scholarships will use
    them, how much that will cost, and what lawmakers will propose to do
    about it."

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not >>>>>>>> just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for >>>>>>> others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology
    down your throat just because they have the big bucks to do it.
    And threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like Soros shove his personal ideology down
    your throat just because he has the big bucks to do it, and
    threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    Show me an example of Soros giving money and then threatening
    lawmakers if they don't abide by his wishes, asshole.


    [crickets]

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  • From John Simons@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 7 21:44:04 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On 07 Apr 2024, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> posted some news:uuv16q$30eqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-04-05 20:27:47 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uugavg$32jej$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-04-01 01:57:34 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special >>>>>>>>>>>>> interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, >>>>>>>>>>>>> like those who crammed a school voucher with public
    funding program down their throats on the threat of
    throwing a lot of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... >>>>>>>>>> which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go >>>>>>>>>>> around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education >>>>>>>>>>> spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in >>>>>>>>>> the best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the >>>>>>>> student loans of college grads.

    I don't happen to be for that myself, Jiminy Cricket.

    Although many times students sign up for big college loans without
    knowing what they've gotten themselves into, and there's no
    incentive for the lenders to explain it to them because they're
    making out like bandits.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are
    already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg
    for vouchers.

    Cite, Jiminy Cricket?

    https://nextstepsblog.org/2021/06/national-survey-shows-black-parents-
    continue-to-support-education-choice/


    No parents were "begging for vouchers" in my state, some outside
    special interest group financed by the Kochs just horned their way
    in and forced it on the politicians.

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to
    vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed
    /revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-
    vote-for-school-vouchers


    If you want to send your kids to a private school or
    homeschool yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my
    taxes that are spent on government schools so I can fund a
    better choice?

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and
    spend it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or
    police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in
    a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire
    departments; there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Shouldn't that money go to the best schooling available?

    Not at the expense of public schools.

    So you'd prefer inferior government schools be funded before superior
    private schools. Ok.

    And who are you to say private/homeschooling is automatically
    better.

    Who are you to say government schools are adequate?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're
    doling out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    That's the point, dweeb--that tax money could be better spent on
    non-government schooling.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry
    ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    You first.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha... now I'm a fascist because I want
    better schools.

    No you're a fascist because you don't care if right-wing
    billionaires force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too
    dumb to realize it or not).

    So are you a fascist because you don't care if left-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to
    realize it or not), or a national socialist or a Democratic
    Socialist?


    "Neener neener." Any money from progressive billionaires is going to
    slow down the steady march by the American right to a full-blown authoritarian dictatorship.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes >>>>>>>>> to vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes >>>>>>>> to vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and
    not to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they
    can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    Cite?



    [crickets]


    https://apnews.com/article/school-vouchers-scholarships-budget-cost-enr ollment-20a819f087af0cb1ed5a60ec24cc8216


    In some states, higher-income families can now use taxpayer money to
    cover private school tuition -- and more people than projected are
    taking the offer, which might force scrambles to shore up state
    budgets.

    It's especially an issue in states like Arizona and Iowa, where at
    least some families whose children were already in private school can
    now take advantage of public funding.

    "It busts the budget because it's taking on as a public expense what's previously been a private cost," said Josh Cowen, an education policy professor at Michigan State University.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/private-schools-vouchers-parents-ohi o-public-funds



    Private Schools, Public Money: School Leaders Are Pushing Parents to
    Exploit Voucher Programs

    Voucher expansions have unleashed a flood of additional taxpayer
    dollars to the benefit of families already enrolled in private
    schools. In Ohio, some schools are now "strongly encouraging" parents
    to apply for vouchers, regardless of need or income.

    For years the [Ohio] program, EdChoice, targeted mostly lower-income
    students in struggling school districts. Now it is an entitlement
    available to all, with its value decreasing for families with higher
    incomes but still providing more than $7,000 annually for high school students in solidly middle-class families and close to $1,000 for ones
    in the wealthiest families. Demand for EdChoice vouchers has nearly
    doubled this year, at a cost to Ohio taxpayers of several hundred
    million additional dollars, the final tally of which won't be known
    for months.

    ...But much of the demand for the expanded voucher programs is in fact
    coming from families, many quite affluent, whose children were already attending private schools. In Arizona, the first state to allow any
    family to receive public funding for private schools or homeschooling,
    the majority of families applying for the money, about $7,000 per
    student, were not recently enrolled in public school. In Florida, only
    13% of the 123,000 students added to the state's expanded
    school-choice program had switched from public school.


    Looks like your head is exploded now, Max.

    Looks like yours is full of shit as usual.

    Vouchers give parents a choice to avoid government funded schools that
    have simply become left-wing indoctrination centers.

    The resulting products are so stupid that the mentally disadvantaged get
    hired over left-wing high school graduates.

    That is a fact.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 7 19:25:49 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In article <uuv16q$30eqv$1@dont-email.me>, super70s@super70s.invalid
    says...

    On 2024-04-05 20:27:47 +0000, max headroom said:

    In news:uugavg$32jej$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-04-01 01:57:34 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get involved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special >>>>>>>>>>>> interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, like >>>>>>>>>>>> those who crammed a school voucher with public funding >>>>>>>>>>>> program down their throats on the threat of throwing a lot >>>>>>>>>>>> of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... >>>>>>>>> which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go >>>>>>>>>> around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education >>>>>>>>>> spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in >>>>>>>>> the best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the >>>>>>> student loans of college grads.

    I don't happen to be for that myself, Jiminy Cricket.

    Although many times students sign up for big college loans without
    knowing what they've gotten themselves into, and there's no incentive
    for the lenders to explain it to them because they're making out like
    bandits.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are
    already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg for >>>>>>> vouchers.

    Cite, Jiminy Cricket?

    https://nextstepsblog.org/2021/06/national-survey-shows-black-parents-continue-to-support-education-choice/


    No parents were "begging for vouchers" in my state, some outside
    special interest group financed by the Kochs just horned their way in
    and forced it on the politicians.

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to
    vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers


    If you want to send your kids to a private school or homeschool >>>>>>>> yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my taxes >>>>>>> that are spent on government schools so I can fund a better
    choice?

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and
    spend it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or
    police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in a >>>>>> civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire departments; >>>>> there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Shouldn't that money go to the best schooling available?

    Not at the expense of public schools.

    So you'd prefer inferior government schools be funded before superior private schools. Ok.

    And who are you to say private/homeschooling is automatically better.

    Who are you to say government schools are adequate?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're doling
    out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    That's the point, dweeb--that tax money could be better spent on
    non-government schooling.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry ...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    You first.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha... now I'm a fascist because I want better
    schools.

    No you're a fascist because you don't care if right-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to
    realize it or not).

    So are you a fascist because you don't care if left-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to realize
    it or not), or a national socialist or a Democratic Socialist?


    "Neener neener." Any money from progressive billionaires is going to
    slow down the steady march by the American right to a full-blown authoritarian dictatorship.


    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes to >>>>>>>> vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes >>>>>>> to vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and not >>>>>> to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they
    can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    Cite?



    [crickets]


    https://apnews.com/article/school-vouchers-scholarships-budget-cost-enrollment-20a819f087af0cb1ed5a60ec24cc8216


    In some states, higher-income families can now use taxpayer money to
    cover private school tuition -- and more people than projected are
    taking the offer, which might force scrambles to shore up state budgets.

    It's especially an issue in states like Arizona and Iowa, where at
    least some families whose children were already in private school can
    now take advantage of public funding.

    "It busts the budget because it's taking on as a public expense what's previously been a private cost," said Josh Cowen, an education policy professor at Michigan State University.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/private-schools-vouchers-parents-ohio-public-funds



    Private Schools, Public Money: School Leaders Are Pushing Parents to
    Exploit Voucher Programs

    Voucher expansions have unleashed a flood of additional taxpayer
    dollars to the benefit of families already enrolled in private schools.
    In Ohio, some schools are now "strongly encouraging" parents to apply
    for vouchers, regardless of need or income.

    For years the [Ohio] program, EdChoice, targeted mostly lower-income
    students in struggling school districts. Now it is an entitlement
    available to all, with its value decreasing for families with higher
    incomes but still providing more than $7,000 annually for high school students in solidly middle-class families and close to $1,000 for ones
    in the wealthiest families. Demand for EdChoice vouchers has nearly
    doubled this year, at a cost to Ohio taxpayers of several hundred
    million additional dollars, the final tally of which won't be known for months.

    ...But much of the demand for the expanded voucher programs is in fact
    coming from families, many quite affluent, whose children were already attending private schools. In Arizona, the first state to allow any
    family to receive public funding for private schools or homeschooling,
    the majority of families applying for the money, about $7,000 per
    student, were not recently enrolled in public school. In Florida, only
    13% of the 123,000 students added to the state's expanded school-choice program had switched from public school.


    Looks like your head is exploded now, Max.


    I thought you wingerdingers were against waste in goverment.

    Like government schools? You bet!

    No like doling out money to parents willy-nilly who may or may not use
    it to educate their kids.

    So you're unfamjiliar with the definition of 'voucher'. Ok.

    No you're a naive dumbass, as we can all see....

    "Even in the states with enrollment over projections, it's early enough
    in the school year that the situation is still rife with unknowns,
    including how many of the families approved for scholarships will use
    them, how much that will cost, and what lawmakers will propose to do
    about it."

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, not >>>>>>>> just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than for >>>>>>> others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal ideology >>>>>> down your throat just because they have the big bucks to do it.
    And threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like Soros shove his personal ideology down
    your throat just because he has the big bucks to do it, and
    threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    Show me an example of Soros giving money and then threatening
    lawmakers if they don't abide by his wishes, asshole.


    [crickets]

    yea and the sky is falling

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  • From max headroom@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 9 08:52:38 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.atheism

    In news:uuv16q$30eqv$1@dont-email.me, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:

    On 2024-04-05 20:27:47 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uugavg$32jej$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-04-01 01:57:34 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uucjcl$20od1$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-31 16:56:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uuapfj$1gufv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-30 14:49:27 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu559s$3toku$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 14:21:31 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu30t4$3d7la$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-28 04:22:03 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu285g$348lv$1@dont-email.me, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid> typed:
    On 2024-03-27 18:39:17 +0000, max headroom said:
    In news:uu1c4j$2t8t5$2@dont-email.me, Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:

    Strange - you say State big government should get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved but not National government!

    Which is more responsive to its residents?

    In my state they're more responsive to outside special >>>>>>>>>>>>> interest groups backed by billionaires like the Kochs, >>>>>>>>>>>>> like those who crammed a school voucher with public
    funding program down their throats on the threat of
    throwing a lot of money into campaigns to primary them.

    Wow, public funding-- funds taken from the public

    schools

    Public schools don't generate funds, they consume funds... >>>>>>>>>> which come from taxpayers.

    and used to pay for

    private

    schooling. Is that a problem?

    It is to a lot of people, there's only so much money to go >>>>>>>>>>> around especially in a state that ranks 45th in education >>>>>>>>>>> spending.

    Shouldn't they be spending those precious taxpayer moneys in >>>>>>>>>> the best manner possible?

    Sure rob poor Peter to pay rich Paul, the Republican credo....

    Yet it's the pinkies who want high school grads to pay off the >>>>>>>> student loans of college grads.

    I don't happen to be for that myself, Jiminy Cricket.

    Although many times students sign up for big college loans without
    knowing what they've gotten themselves into, and there's no
    incentive for the lenders to explain it to them because they're
    making out like bandits.

    ... Most of those parents with kids in private schools are
    already well off.

    It's the parents of kids in crappy government schools who beg
    for vouchers.

    Cite, Jiminy Cricket?

    https://nextstepsblog.org/2021/06/national-survey-shows-black-parents-continue-to-support-education-choice/

    No parents were "begging for vouchers" in my state, some outside
    special interest group financed by the Kochs just horned their way
    in and forced it on the politicians.

    REVEALED: Secret recording shows pressure on Republican lawmakers to
    vote for school vouchers

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/revealed/revealed-secret-recording-shows-pressure-on-republican-lawmakers-to-vote-for-school-vouchers

    If you want to send your kids to a private school or
    homeschool yourself do it on your own dime.

    How about the government letting me keep the portion of my
    taxes that are spent on government schools so I can fund a
    better choice?

    If everyone wanted to "keep their portion of their taxes" and
    spend it on "better choices" there wouldn't be any highways or
    police or fire departments or anything else it takes to live in
    a civilized society.

    There aren't alternatives to government roads or fire
    departments; there *are* alternatives to government schools.

    Still doesn't give you the right to take money intended for public
    schools away.

    Shouldn't that money go to the best schooling available?

    Not at the expense of public schools.

    So you'd prefer inferior government schools be funded before superior
    private schools. Ok.



    [crickets]



    And who are you to say private/homeschooling is automatically
    better.

    Who are you to say government schools are adequate?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1612/education.aspx

    Also there's no accountability how that public tax money is
    spent....

    That's the point-- government schools are inferior to the private
    sector.

    I was talking about the $7K or whatever amount it is they're
    doling out to the private/homeschoolers, dweeb.

    That's the point, dweeb--that tax money could be better spent on
    non-government schooling.

    ... It could be spent on a trip to Vegas or expensive jewelry...

    Like Fani Willis?

    ? Try to stay on topic, silly goose.

    You first.

    ...instead of your kid's education for all anyone knows (and it
    probably is).

    Parent are still responsible for educating their kids.

    Is that clear enough for you to understand, Jiminy Cricket?

    Yup. You're a statist.

    And you're a fascist with no concern for the greater society.

    BWAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha... now I'm a fascist because I want
    better schools.

    No you're a fascist because you don't care if right-wing
    billionaires force their personal agendas on you (whether you're
    too dumb to realize it or not).

    So are you a fascist because you don't care if left-wing billionaires
    force their personal agendas on you (whether you're too dumb to
    realize it or not), or a national socialist or a Democratic
    Socialist?

    "Neener neener." Any money from progressive billionaires is going to
    slow down the steady march by the American right to a full-blown authoritarian dictatorship.

    "Hey, have you heard the news? 'Our democracy' is on the brink. An unscrupulous narcissist with dictatorial ambitions and a hatred for legitimate political opposition could win the presidency in November, and that will very likely be the last time that patriotic Americans get a chance to elect their chief executive. From now on, if this sinister man manages to win, it's all going to be stiff-arm salutes and 'Sieg heils.'

    "In fact, there is a very real threat to America's continuing to function as a free republic, but that threat isn't coming from where Democrats are claiming. They're saying that if Bad Orange Man returns to the White House on Jan. 20, 2025, 'democracy' will be dead. Trump, will set himself up as a dictator, and Amerikkka will finally become the fascist state that leftists have been claiming
    it was on the verge of being ever since an upstart has-been actor named Ronald Reagan threw his hat in the ring.

    "This claim is not only absurd and offensive; it's a classic case of projection.
    The American republic (remember, kids: it's not a democracy) is indeed in serious danger, but the danger is coming from those who are claiming that they are trying to save it from Trump....

    "Neither [Michael] Cohen nor [Joy] Reed said anything about the fact that it was
    Old Joe Biden, not Trump, who declared his chief opponent and his supporters a threat to the very foundations of the republic, ruling half of the electorate outside the bounds of acceptable political discourse. As The Sumter Gambit: How the Left is Trying to Foment a Civil War details, the left today has no respect for the republic as it is currently structured; the Biden regime is the first American presidency to take actual steps to criminalize what used to be called 'loyal opposition.'

    "Biden and his henchman Merrick Garland have a long and ever-lengthening record of being intolerant of dissent, the tolerance of which is the foundation of any free society. Besides the Disinformation Governance Board that would have policed speech that dissented from the leftist establishment's perspective, it sicced the FBI on angry parents protesting at school board meetings, worked with
    Twitter and other social media giants to silence and deplatform people with opposing views, and even sent spies into Catholic churches.

    "The Biden regime is the real threat to 'our democracy,' that is, our republic. But no Democrat propagandist or establishment media 'journalist' will ever admit
    that."

    https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2024/04/06/dems-realize-they-cant-win-on-bidens-record-stake-everything-on-trump-hate-n4927958

    Aren't you pro-choice?

    <laugh> Suddenly the right-wing is "pro-choice" when it comes >>>>>>>>> to vouchers.

    <laugh> Suddenly the left-wing isn't "pro-choice" when it comes >>>>>>>> to vouchers.

    You have all the "choice" you want to send your kids to private
    schools or homeschool them -- just do it on your own dime and
    not to the detriment of public schools.

    I did... but what about the working families whose kids attend
    crappy schools because vouchers are unavailable?

    What about upper middle class families who get vouchers when they
    can easily afford to pay for a private education themselves?

    https://apnews.com/article/school-vouchers-scholarships-budget-cost-enrollment-20a819f087af0cb1ed5a60ec24cc8216

    In some states, higher-income families can now use taxpayer money to
    cover private school tuition ...

    Private Schools, Public Money: School Leaders Are Pushing Parents to
    Exploit Voucher Programs...

    Looks like your head is exploded now, Max.

    "[A] single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory;
    and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country."

    --Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Court Justice, New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann

    I thought you wingerdingers were against waste in goverment.

    Like government schools? You bet!

    No like doling out money to parents willy-nilly who may or may not
    use it to educate their kids.

    So you're unfamjiliar with the definition of 'voucher'. Ok.

    No you're a naive dumbass, as we can all see....

    "Even in the states with enrollment over projections, it's early
    enough in the school year that the situation is still rife with
    unknowns, including how many of the families approved for
    scholarships will use them, how much that will cost, and what
    lawmakers will propose to do about it."

    And how is that "doling out money to parents willy-nilly"?

    Don't you want your kids to have the best education
    available?

    I want everyone's kids to have the best education available, >>>>>>>>> not just my own.

    So you're a socialist-- you care less for your own kids than
    for others'.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like the Kochs shove their personal
    ideology down your throat just because they have the big bucks
    to do it. And threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't
    acquiesce.

    And you're a typical self-centered wingnut who has no problem
    letting billionaires like Soros shove his personal ideology down
    your throat just because he has the big bucks to do it, and
    threaten lawmakers with their jobs if they don't acquiesce.

    Show me an example of Soros giving money and then threatening
    lawmakers if they don't abide by his wishes, asshole.

    Candidates must kiss his ring before securing his funds.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1424705/map-shows-how-many-soros-linked-prosecutors-there-are-around-the-country-and-how-many-have-been-removed/

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