President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
Fox News correspondent Bill Melugin responded: "Expressing regret for accurately describing the Venezuelan illegal alien charged with bashing
in Laken Riley's skull as an 'illegal' is a remarkable moment. The one
and only time Biden mentions her name, he botches it, and now he
hopes to avoid offending her alleged killer."
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >victim.
In other news, I just did my taxes and was dismayed to learn I still owe >Ukraine $15,000.
Fox News correspondent Bill Melugin responded: "Expressing regret for
accurately describing the Venezuelan illegal alien charged with bashing
in Laken Riley's skull as an 'illegal' is a remarkable moment. The one
and only time Biden mentions her name, he botches it, and now he
hopes to avoid offending her alleged killer."
This.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are
aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the
media decrying his use of the word.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States
apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings
while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American
victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are
aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the
media decrying his use of the word. Which was too late as I've already
seen people bemoaning his use of the word "illegal", even if he
quickly corrected his use to "undocumented."
...
On 3/12/24 5:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American victim.
Gosh, I fully understand why using a word would throw you into a full pearl-clutching incident.
Did you hear there's this other guy running for president who wants to
(and you need to be sitting down before you read any further)... but
there's a presidential candidate who wants to release hundreds of
violent criminals back into society. No, Really!!!
In article <lfl1vil67rlgh3ilpecacgil7todvd1red@4ax.com>,
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because >> >> he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States
apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings
while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American
victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are
aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the
media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
On 3/12/24 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lfl1vil67rlgh3ilpecacgil7todvd1red@4ax.com>,
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after >>>> he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because >>>> he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States
apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>> while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>> victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are
aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the
media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
Way more than you.
On 3/12/24 7:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <usqlg5$hnqa$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/12/24 5:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after >>>> he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because >>>> he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States
apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>> while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>> victim.
Gosh, I fully understand why using a word would throw you into a full
pearl-clutching incident.
Your insults don't even make any logical sense. I use the word 'illegal' all the time to refer to those who enter this country contrary to law.
Why would I object to Biden doing it?
No, I'm not the one running for the smelling salts over Biden's use of
the world 'illegal', Shit-Shoes. The Leftist media and grievance groups are.
No, you're running for the smelling salts over the word "undocumented",
which is more accurate.
But only because it doesn't slur a whole group of people, and you don't
have any cover for your racism.
And I shouldnt have used illegal, its undocumented, Biden
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
illegal alien.
What Im not going to do, what I wont do, Im not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect, Biden later added. Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to
control the border and more orderly flow, but I dont share his view at
all.
On 3/12/2024 7:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <usqlg5$hnqa$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/12/24 5:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after >>>> he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because >>>> he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States
apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>> while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>> victim.
Gosh, I fully understand why using a word would throw you into a full
pearl-clutching incident.
Your insults don't even make any logical sense. I use the word 'illegal' all the time to refer to those who enter this country contrary to law.
Why would I object to Biden doing it?
No, I'm not the one running for the smelling salts over Biden's use of
the world 'illegal', Shit-Shoes. The Leftist media and grievance groups are.
Did you hear there's this other guy running for president who wants to
(and you need to be sitting down before you read any further)... but
there's a presidential candidate who wants to release hundreds of
violent criminals back into society. No, Really!!!
Just one of the reasons I'm not voting for president in the upcoming election. I can't stand either one of them.
You DO know that your vote can only affect the outcome we have to live
with, and isn't taken as your personal position-paper on the candidate.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used 'illegal'. It's undocumented," Biden
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
"illegal alien".
"What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect," Biden later added. "Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to >control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >all."
Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America?
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
“And I shouldn’t have used ‘illegal,’ it’s undocumented,” Biden >>claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
“illegal alien.”
“What I’m not going to do, what I won’t do, I’m not gonna treat any, >>any, any of these people with disrespect,” Biden later added. “Look, >>they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to >>control the border and more orderly flow, but I don’t share his view at >>all.”
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >victim.
In other news, I just did my taxes and was dismayed to learn I still owe >Ukraine $15,000.
. . .
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:44:51 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >>>>apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>>>while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>>>victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are
aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the >>>media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
He has no need to create an unwanted controversy over an item that
isn't worth bringing up but our 24 news hour cycle will do so to help
fill the hours.
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:44:51 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >>>>>apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>>>>while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>>>>victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are >>>>aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the >>>>media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
He has no need to create an unwanted controversy over an item that
isn't worth bringing up but our 24 news hour cycle will do so to help
fill the hours.
You don't think it's deliberate to distract from the fact that Jose
Ibarra got paroled into the United States when Immigration and a second >encounter with Border Patrol failed to run his name to discover that
Homeland Security had already identified him as a gang member, not to be >allowed to enter?
On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 02:35:14 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:44:51 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >>>>>apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>>>>while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>>>>victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are >>>>aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the >>>>media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
He has no need to create an unwanted controversy over an item that
isn't worth bringing up but our 24 news hour cycle will do so to help >>fill the hours.
You don't think it's deliberate to distract from the fact that Jose
Ibarra got paroled into the United States when Immigration and a second >encounter with Border Patrol failed to run his name to discover that >Homeland Security had already identified him as a gang member, not to be >allowed to enter?
No, because I don't believe that was on his mind at that moment. It
was simply using a word that he knew would create controversy and from
what I heard supposedly Nancy Pelosi said not to use.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 16:44:36 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used 'illegal', it's undocumented," BidenUh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal >aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
"illegal alien".
"What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect," Biden later added. "Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to >>control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >>all."
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it. I'm sure what he meant was immigrants
built the country, whether they were documented or undocumented or
slaves.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The only one I see showing signs of possible dementia is Trump
Wed, 13 Mar 2024 02:35:14 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>: >>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:44:51 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
. . .
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >>>>>>apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings >>>>>>while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American >>>>>>victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are >>>>>aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the >>>>>media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
He has no need to create an unwanted controversy over an item that
isn't worth bringing up but our 24 news hour cycle will do so to help >>>fill the hours.
You don't think it's deliberate to distract from the fact that Jose
Ibarra got paroled into the United States when Immigration and a second >>encounter with Border Patrol failed to run his name to discover that >>Homeland Security had already identified him as a gang member, not to be >>allowed to enter?
No, because I don't believe that was on his mind at that moment.
. . .
Gang member too, which Homeland Security listed him as if Immigration
had bothered to run his name.
Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal >>aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it. I'm sure what he meant was immigrants
built the country, whether they were documented or undocumented or
slaves.
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 22:09:44 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
If the president had MEANT that he could have easily said so. IUh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal >>>aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's >>>grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it. I'm sure what he meant was immigrants
built the country, whether they were documented or undocumented or
slaves.
personally think the meaning of his statement was that he was
pandering to the "progressive" wing of his own party.
It certainly was not in any way a conciliatory statement saying nice
things about immigrants generally.Just like the entire speech was not
about "bringing all Americans together".
On 3/12/24 6:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lfl1vil67rlgh3ilpecacgil7todvd1red@4ax.com>,
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after >>>>> he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal"
because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States
apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his
feelings
while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his
American
victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are
aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the
media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
Way more than you.
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
And I shouldnt have used illegal, its undocumented, Biden
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
illegal alien.
What Im not going to do, what I wont do, Im not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect, Biden later added. Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to >>control the border and more orderly flow, but I dont share his view at >>all.
Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
"What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any, >>>>any, any of these people with disrespect," Biden later added. "Look, >>>>they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to >>>>control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >>>>all."
Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal >>>aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's >>>grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it. I'm sure what he meant was immigrants
built the country, whether they were documented or undocumented or
slaves.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The only one I see showing signs of possible dementia is Trump
Really?
When he was yelling at the press about how insulted he was that the DOJ
said he couldn't even remember when his son died, and he said he carries >around a rosary to remember his son "from Our Lady of the... um... Our
Lady of the... well, you know..."
In the middle of indignantly denying accusations that he can't even
remember key personal details, he blanks out on a key personal detail.
And that was minutes after he told everyone that Mexico and Gaza share a >border.
And you still say the only person losing it is Trump? Seriously?
Let me ask you this. If you owned a business, would you hire Biden to
run it without supervision? I sure wouldn't. Yet he's running the United >States of America.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used ‘illegal,’ it's undocumented,” Biden >>>claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact, >>>“illegal alien.”
“What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any, >>>any, any of these people with disrespect,” Biden later added. “Look, >>>they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to >>>control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >>>all.”
Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal >>aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The only one I see showing signs of possible dementia is Trump
With Biden I see a man that is clearly slowing down due to his age
but still appears to have a full grasp of his faculties.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The only one I see showing signs of possible dementia is Trump
In article <3h22vipviumic46dvm992b0nmtsoa4gghh@4ax.com>,
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 16:44:36 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used 'illegal', it's undocumented," BidenUh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
"illegal alien".
"What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect," Biden later added. "Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to
control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >>>> all."
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it. I'm sure what he meant was immigrants
built the country, whether they were documented or undocumented or
slaves.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The only one I see showing signs of possible dementia is Trump
Really?
When he was yelling at the press about how insulted he was that the DOJ
said he couldn't even remember when his son died, and he said he carries around a rosary to remember his son "from Our Lady of the... um... Our
Lady of the... well, you know..."
In the middle of indignantly denying accusations that he can't even
remember key personal details, he blanks out on a key personal detail.
And that was minutes after he told everyone that Mexico and Gaza share a border.
And you still say the only person losing it is Trump? Seriously?
Let me ask you this. If you owned a business, would you hire Biden to
run it without supervision? I sure wouldn't. Yet he's running the United States of America.
(Actually, even that's up for debate. Talking to some old friends who
are on PPD, they describe it as a Weekend at Bernie's situation and that
he's not in charge of much anymore. He's like John Gill in the TOS
episode "Patterns of Force".)
nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used ‘illegal,’ it's undocumented,” Biden
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
“illegal alien.”
“What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any, >>>> any, any of these people with disrespect,” Biden later added. “Look, >>>> they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to
control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >>>> all.”
Uh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America? (Including a great-great
grandfather of mine who got his 70 year pin from Union Pacific nearly
100 years ago? This is of couse my father's side - my mother's
grandfather was busy commanding a ship in the Royal Navy - admittedly
a small one but any ship command is a command)
No, that's you reading into it.
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* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
The only one I see showing signs of possible dementia is Trump
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5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
With Biden I see a man that is clearly slowing down due to his age
but still appears to have a full grasp of his faculties.
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5* 6* *7
4* *8
3* *9
2* *10
1* | *stuporous
0* -*- *catatonic
* |\ *comatose
* \ *clinical death
* \ *biological death
* _\/ *demonic apparition
* * *damned for all eternity
On 3/12/24 8:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <bvp1vilk3dgmfngps48apj2qv440n9h9uu@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used 'illegal'. It's undocumented," BidenUh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
"illegal alien".
"What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect," Biden later added. "Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to
control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at >>>> all."
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America?
Yes. Yes he did exactly that. Without illegals there would be no
America. Or something.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
He does it every day, but we're required to ignore it and pretend he's
youthful and vigorous and sharp as a tack.
Funny, but the Republican investigating his classified docs didn't say
that.
But why let facts get in the way of your perfectly good strawman?
On 3/12/24 11:40 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <lt52vil2i0hs87h6vmo7o9m7oqm20k01cm@4ax.com>,Nope, moron... there is no "rule" that Nancy or anyone else formulated
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 02:35:14 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:44:51 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 14:56:32 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>
. . .
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >>>>>>>> apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings
while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American
victim.
Of course that wasn't what he was doing at all as I'm sure you are >>>>>>> aware. The reason for the quick backtrack was to avoid people in the >>>>>>> media decrying his use of the word.
So Biden has no backbone, then?
He has no need to create an unwanted controversy over an item that
isn't worth bringing up but our 24 news hour cycle will do so to help >>>>> fill the hours.
You don't think it's deliberate to distract from the fact that Jose
Ibarra got paroled into the United States when Immigration and a second >>>> encounter with Border Patrol failed to run his name to discover that
Homeland Security had already identified him as a gang member, not to be >>>> allowed to enter?
No, because I don't believe that was on his mind at that moment. It
was simply using a word that he knew would create controversy and from
what I heard supposedly Nancy Pelosi said not to use.
Nancy Pelosi is formulating rules for the president to follow now, is
she?
for the president.
Sure, because as I'm seeing people say the Presidential campaign is
now in full swing. So the State of the Union address was just a part
of that campaign and some are hoping that Biden has given up on his
ideas of bringing everyone together because that doesn't seem possible
with the MAGA faithful. I'm just glad that Biden finally presented
some sign of life that goes against the message the media has been
pushing.
When asked about his stolen top secret documents, Senile Resident Joke Biden >was unable to remember the month AND year his son died from cancer and was >also unable to remember when he was VP and Trump was elected. Lastly, he keep >babbling about how his car parked next to the stolen documents went "vroom >vroom!" when he drove it. much to the chagrin of the interviewers.
Theres even a reference that I dont remember when my son died, Biden said >in February. How in the hell dare he raise that? Frankly, when I was asked >the question, I thought to myself: It wasnt any of their damn business.
Trump said he has one of the greatest memories in the world... and then, >under oath, said he didn't remember saying that.
(Actually, even that's up for debate. Talking to some old friends who
are on PPD, they describe it as a Weekend at Bernie's situation and that
he's not in charge of much anymore. He's like John Gill in the TOS
episode "Patterns of Force".)
Now imagine Biden were a narcissist who believes himself a 'stable
genius' possessed of infallible vision and unconstrained latitude...
Fine the ever lovin' shit out of employers and businesses that hire them >without verification. But Congress won't do that because it would hurt
their buddies that fund their campaigns.
On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:54:14 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
When asked about his stolen top secret documents, Senile Resident Joke Biden >>was unable to remember the month AND year his son died from cancer and was >>also unable to remember when he was VP and Trump was elected. Lastly, he keep >>babbling about how his car parked next to the stolen documents went "vroom >>vroom!" when he drove it. much to the chagrin of the interviewers.
Vroom vroom? That's what my 2 year old granddaughter says not a grown
man much less the President. And as I say - when a close loved one
passes you remember EXACTLY what you were doing and what time it was
when you found out. No question about it. Until my aforementioned
relative was lost to dementia I'm sure he knew who died on his
birthday 2005.
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:59:38 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
Fine the ever lovin' shit out of employers and businesses that hire them
without verification. But Congress won't do that because it would hurt
their buddies that fund their campaigns.
Why not? The only reason I ignored the call from Canadian immigration concerning a temporary foreign worker whose visa had expired was that
she was going home to her family for Christmas and I got a Christmas
Card from her postmarked Dublin. Oh I suppose she could have been
hiding in Toronto somewhere but I rather doubt it. (Not least because
if she was trying to avoid being in contact why would she have sent
the card?)
If I was asked about her now I'd have nothing but good to say about
her but definitely couldn't produce the card - could YOU produce any
given Christmas card 6 years after the fact?
On 3/12/24 6:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <usqnfm$i5pq$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/12/24 7:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <usqlg5$hnqa$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/12/24 5:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after >>>>>> he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is >>>>>> suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States >>>>> apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings
while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American
victim.
Gosh, I fully understand why using a word would throw you into a full >>>> pearl-clutching incident.
Your insults don't even make any logical sense. I use the word 'illegal' >>> all the time to refer to those who enter this country contrary to law. >>> Why would I object to Biden doing it?
No, I'm not the one running for the smelling salts over Biden's use of >>> the world 'illegal', Shit-Shoes. The Leftist media and grievance groups >>> are.
No, you're running for the smelling salts over the word "undocumented",
which is more accurate.
The hell it is. Illegal alien describes their legal status
That's interesting. If you rob a liquor store you've done something
illegal.
I don't what the flying fuck "legal status" means though, as
if you've done something "illegal" just by existing in a place. It's meaningless whereas "undocumented" isn't, and you can be deported for
being undocumented. I get that verbal vomit is all you have to go with though. "Undocumented bullshit" might be a way to describe what you're saying.
In article <Ubp4av$666q$10@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
President Joe Biden ignited widespread backlash over the weekend after
he apologized for correctly referring to the illegal alien who is
suspected of murdering a young woman in Georgia as "an illegal" because
he did not want to "disrespect" illegal immigrants.
It certainly was appalling to see the president of the United States apologizing to an illegal alien rapist-murderer for hurting his feelings while not even being able to correctly remember the name of his American victim.
In article <bvp1vilk3dgmfngps48apj2qv440n9h9uu@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 04:30:44 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:
"And I shouldn't have used 'illegal'. It's undocumented," BidenUh wait a minute - if I understand correctly he's calling the illegal
claimed, even though the correct legal terminology is, in fact,
"illegal alien".
"What I'm not going to do, what I won't do, I'm not gonna treat any,
any, any of these people with disrespect," Biden later added. "Look,
they built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to
control the border and more orderly flow, but I don't share his view at
all."
aliens not those who came to America legally (like my forebears 300
years ago) the builders of America?
Yes. Yes he did exactly that. Without illegals there would be no
America. Or something.
Are you sure he hasn't proven his own case of dementia?
He does it every day, but we're required to ignore it and pretend he's youthful and vigorous and sharp as a tack.
On 3/15/24 1:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <OITIN.11937$_a1e.2838@fx16.iad>,
trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
On 3/12/24 6:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <usqnfm$i5pq$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:
No, I'm not the one running for the smelling salts over Biden's use of >>>>> the world 'illegal', Shit-Shoes. The Leftist media and grievance groups >>>>> are.
No, you're running for the smelling salts over the word "undocumented", >>>> which is more accurate.
The hell it is. Illegal alien describes their legal status
That's interesting. If you rob a liquor store you've done something
illegal.
And if you cross the U.S. border without authorization, you've done something illegal.
Do you really need this explained to you?
I don't what the flying fuck "legal status" means though, as
if you've done something "illegal" just by existing in a place. It's
meaningless whereas "undocumented" isn't, and you can be deported for
being undocumented. I get that verbal vomit is all you have to go with
though. "Undocumented bullshit" might be a way to describe what you're
saying.
The United States Code uses the term illegal alien and defines it under U.S. law, Hutt. It doesn't use this 'undocumented' shit or 'pre-citizen'
as Gavin Newsom likes to call them.
Crossing the border to request asylum is perfectly legal.
Blame the hecklers... they started turning it into one back when they
yelled "You lie!" at Obama.
Now it's a WWE wrestling match.
If I was asked about her now I'd have nothing but good to say about
her but definitely couldn't produce the card - could YOU produce any
given Christmas card 6 years after the fact?
Yeah, I have a stack of them, going back years. Half of them are run
opened.
I can't name the day or year my father passed, but I can tell you it was
95 degrees that day, and very humid. And it was exactly 4:15 on a
Friday afternoon when the call from the hospital came in.
I was standing right in in front of the parlor door, with my leather >briefcase in my left hand. I distinctly remember the sound of it
hitting the floor.
The minute details stick, where the big ones don't.
I don't what the flying fuck "legal status" means though, as
if you've done something "illegal" just by existing in a place. It's
meaningless whereas "undocumented" isn't, and you can be deported for
being undocumented. I get that verbal vomit is all you have to go with
though. "Undocumented bullshit" might be a way to describe what you're
saying.
The United States Code uses the term illegal alien and defines it under
U.S. law, Hutt. It doesn't use this 'undocumented' shit or 'pre-citizen'
as Gavin Newsom likes to call them.
Only if it's the first country the person comes to and it's done at a
valid port of entry. Crossing five different countries to get to the
U.S., then sneaking across the river in the dead of night and only
requesting asylum when caught is not legal, perfect or otherwise.
Nope.
On 3/16/24 1:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <ut4cba$2ur4t$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 3/15/24 1:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <OITIN.11937$_a1e.2838@fx16.iad>,
trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
Crossing the border to request asylum is perfectly legal.That's interesting. If you rob a liquor store you've done something
illegal.
And if you cross the U.S. border without authorization, you've done
something illegal.
Do you really need this explained to you?
I don't what the flying fuck "legal status" means though, as
if you've done something "illegal" just by existing in a place. It's >>>> meaningless whereas "undocumented" isn't, and you can be deported for >>>> being undocumented. I get that verbal vomit is all you have to go with >>>> though. "Undocumented bullshit" might be a way to describe what you're >>>> saying.
The United States Code uses the term illegal alien and defines it under >>> U.S. law, Hutt. It doesn't use this 'undocumented' shit or 'pre-citizen' >>> as Gavin Newsom likes to call them.
Only if it's the first country the person comes to and it's done at a
valid port of entry. Crossing five different countries to get to the
U.S., then sneaking across the river in the dead of night and only requesting asylum when caught is not legal, perfect or otherwise.
Nope.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Biden administration said on Saturday it was immediately suspending Trump-era asylum agreements with El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, part of a bid to undo his Republican predecessor's hardline immigration policies.
The so-called "safe third country" agreements, inked in 2019 by the Trump administration and the Central American nations, force asylum seekers from the region to first seek refuge in those countries before applying in the United States.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
When asked about his stolen top secret documents, Senile Resident Joke >>>Biden was unable to remember the month AND year his son died from cancer >>>and was also unable to remember when he was VP and Trump was elected. >>>Lastly, he keep babbling about how his car parked next to the stolen >>>documents went "vroom vroom!" when he drove it. much to the chagrin of >>>the interviewers.
Ubi lies there as Biden remembered the month and day his son died.
On 3/19/24 2:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
On Mar 19, 2024 at 2:35:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/17/24 4:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <ut6vuf$3iqos$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> >>> wrote:Good. Now why don't you apologize for lying and insinuating EO's are
On 3/16/24 1:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <ut4cba$2ur4t$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
On 3/15/24 1:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
In article <OITIN.11937$_a1e.2838@fx16.iad>,
trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
Nope.Crossing the border to request asylum is perfectly legal.That's interesting. If you rob a liquor store you've done something >>>>>>>> illegal.
And if you cross the U.S. border without authorization, you've done >>>>>>> something illegal.
Do you really need this explained to you?
I don't what the flying fuck "legal status" means though, as if >>>>>>>> you've done something "illegal" just by existing in a place. It's >>>>>>>> meaningless whereas "undocumented" isn't, and you can be deported >>>>>>>> for being undocumented. I get that verbal vomit is all you have to >>>>>>>> go with though. "Undocumented bullshit" might be a way to describe >>>>>>>> what you're saying.
The United States Code uses the term illegal alien and defines it >>>>>>> under U.S. law, Hutt. It doesn't use this 'undocumented' shit or >>>>>>> 'pre-citizen' as Gavin Newsom likes to call them.
Only if it's the first country the person comes to and it's done at a >>>>> valid port of entry. Crossing five different countries to get to the >>>>> U.S., then sneaking across the river in the dead of night and only >>>>> requesting asylum when caught is not legal, perfect or otherwise.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Biden administration said on Saturday it >>>>> was immediately suspending Trump-era asylum agreements with El Salvador,
Guatemala and Honduras, part of a bid to undo his Republican
predecessor's hardline immigration policies.
Oh, look! Another of those EOs that Biden issued facilitating illegal
alien entry and causing the chaos at the border.
But we're supposed to believe the Effas of the world when they cry it's >>> "the bill! the bill! the bill!" that's the cause of it all.
The so-called "safe third country" agreements, inked in 2019 by the >>>>> Trump administration and the Central American nations, force asylum >>>>> seekers from the region to first seek refuge in those countries
before applying in the United States.
So when you said it was 'perfectly legal', you meant Biden had just
legalized the chaos by EO.
Gotcha. That makes it soooo much better. (Although it does highlight
how absolutely full of shit Democrats are when they claim they want a
secure border and then do shit like this which is 100% guaranteed to
make it less secure.)
something illegal, unconstitutional, or even unusual.
I will not because I did not. Although one wonders how Biden countermanded the safe third country requirement of the law with a mere EO, which was promulgated by Congress pursuant to treaty. Presidents can't change or negate statutes with EOs.
Well, that guy and every other President since Washington has had that ability.
The first executive order was issued by Washington on June 8, 1789.
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