• What Did You Watch? 2024-03-09 (Saturday)

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 04:30:40 2024
    I watched:

    BAR RESCUE IS MORE INSANE THAN I REMEMBER:
    Today we're finally taking a look at Bar Rescue, a show I havent seen
    in years but after taking another look at it, it's more insane than I
    remember. Probably because my only experience watching this show back
    in the day was in hotel rooms but STILL. Anyways enjoy this episode
    and... uh yeah that's your only option sorry! https://youtu.be/xm8Edh0q6go?si=srEK9jSvV-0CW-Vn

    JOE ROGAN SHOCKED BY APPALLING RILEY GAINES DETAILS! LIA THOMAS IS A FRAUD & *A MONSTER!*:
    Riley Gaines and the other women who had to endure this stuff deserve better. https://youtu.be/JF4p05zj314?si=FtUZfHuaHT9DPVY3

    TIPPING CULTURE HAS BECOME *OUTRAGEOUS*:
    I recently came across a post on X of a photo of a receipt that shows
    that Los Angeles restaurants are charging a 4% “LA Health” fee. This
    is getting outrageous. I have changed my mind on tipping. https://youtu.be/LQCvBAsjZw0?si=PVKrvS8oZHRnQIeb

    THE DARK SIDE OF QUEER EYE - Brett Cooper:
    Beloved social media icon and television personality Jonathan Van Ness
    has recently been exposed. Let's get into it. https://youtu.be/_loMO6V7GxY?si=KQudrkF6cXSF_j_1

    DRAKE BELL IS EXPOSING THE EVIL SIDE OF CHILD ACTING - Brett Cooper:
    A new documentary, "Quiet On Set," is soon to be released about the exploitation of child stars in the early 2000s. One of the biggest
    child stars of that era, Drake Bell, has been revealed as one of the
    actors featured in the documentary. Let’s talk about it. https://youtu.be/0dO23SzjtQA?si=AiduR5N7lYd-2EcS

    STAR WARS: THE MANDALORIAN AND GROGU A *BAIT* AND *SWITCH*? | THE EMPIRE *STRIKES OUT* SOURCE CLAIMS!:
    Disney Star Wars seems to have a phobia about succeeding. They've
    taken one of the biggest franchises in history and screwed up every
    single chance they've had to engage fans...well my friends, according
    to a source, they're about to screw up yet again with The Mandalorian
    and Grogu! How are they going to do that exactly? Here's what my
    Hollywood spies have told me! #starwars #disney #themandalorian https://youtu.be/WFMPWdzlfGM?si=YDS8uXXZRVhveOFk

    KUNG FU PANDA 4 | Film Threat Reviews: https://youtu.be/sjPsU-j4d0E?si=99M8ESVvvRv4y_Pq

    BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES - APE NATION Movie Review:
    Thirteen years after a worldwide series of ape revolutions and a
    brutal nuclear war among humans, Caesar must protect survivors of
    both species from an insidious human cult and a militant ape faction
    alike.
    https://youtu.be/8v0YyYNmDOA?si=IUEncXcdkCPf0yYh

    DOCTOR WHO:
    "The Deadly Assassin".

    What did you watch?

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Mar 10 08:40:56 2024
    On 3/10/24 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Yesterday, I focused on taking it easy (which I needed to after the
    preceding workweek), so not much:

    soaps: Thur's ep's.
    DOOL - I was alarmed in this episode when suddenly there was a
    recast of Sloan Peterson - being a "Peacock original", DOOL doesn't
    announce recasts ("temporary" or permanent) anymore; so I had to go the
    the net to confirm that this was just a temporary recast... Ava fights
    with Steve and John about what to do with Clyde once they break him out
    of prison - Steve and John seem to convince Ava that they can't let
    Clyde go free and need to interrogate him for Tripp's location, but I'm
    betting Ava still has other ideas. (And who doesn't think that Clyde
    will outsmart Steve and John anyway?!!) Dumb Holly is still pleading
    "amnesia" about the drugs. NuTheresa hires TempSloan as Tate's lawyer,
    and Sloan warns that they have a tough case; Tate tries to contact Holly through social media using Theresa's phone.
    GH - Ava shows Sonny that Jason was at the shooting, and then tries
    to convince Sonny that Jason is EVOL!1! now (this whole thing seemed
    entirely self-serving on Ava's part...). Spinelli and Maxie try to
    stonewall Agent Jagger, but eventually Spinelli gives up Jason to keep
    Maxie (and himself) out of jail. More drama with Dante's shooting, but
    he pulls through surgery.

    golf - Day 3 at the Arnold Palmer, but I didn't pay it much attention as
    Will Zalatoris was way ahead - he seems to be cruising for the win,
    unless he falls apart on Day 4...

    Hunting Housewives (Lifetime) - This was OK, though pretty darn
    over-the-top (but clearly in a tongue-in-cheek way). I was amused how
    they killed off NeNe Leakes almost immediately! Anyway, it was OK,
    though I will admit I wasn't totally entertained by it. The ending was
    decent, I guess.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 09:49:15 2024
    The Twilight Zone S3E27 'Person or Persons Unknown' - DVR
    David Gurney wakes up with a hangover, but that's the least of his
    problems. (Comcast)
    Paying homage to It's a Wonderful Life (1946), David Gurney wakes up to
    another ordinary day. Except today, nobody knows who he is including his
    own wife Wilma. (IMDb)
    Trivia: One of the first instances on television to show a couple
    sharing a single bed, sleeping next to each other. Around this time, TV
    shows could only portray couples sleeping in separate beds due to
    television's strict standards & practices. In season five's Stopover in
    a Quiet Town (1964), a very similar situation occurs. In both cases, the
    man is sleeping on top of the covers, is still fully dressed (even
    wearing his shoes), and they are hung over from a bout of heavy drinking.
    The two phone numbers Richard Long calls are Klondike 5-2131 and
    Klondike 5-3472 and may be the first 555 numbers used in television history.


    The Twilight Zone S3E28 'The Little People' - DVR
    A space traveler finds an Earth-like civilization the size of ants.
    (Comcast)
    On a desolate planet, two astronauts discover an entire society
    populated by incredibly small beings. One of the astronauts decides to
    rule the society as a god.
    Trivia: The rocket launch depicted was in reality a test flight of a Mercury-Atlas booster. This was quite timely; this episode aired about a
    month after NASA's John Glenn became the first astronaut to attain Earth
    orbit upon such a rocket.
    The weapons and giants' uniforms were reused from Forbidden Planet (1956).


    The Twilight Zone S3E29 'Four O'Clock' - DVR
    An obsessed Oliver Crangle (Theodore Bikel) tells an FBI agent that a
    drastic transformation will take place on all the evil people in the
    world. (Comcast)
    A very obsessed man wants to expose evil in the world, investigating
    people he sees as murderers, subversives, perverts and communists, then attempting to ruin their lives. (IMDb)
    Credit: Parrot ... Parrot (uncredited) with a link to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10455435/ giving four credits in 'The Return
    of the Pink Panther (1975), Adam-12 (1972), Gilligan's Island (four
    episodes, 1964-1966) with this TZ episode as its first credit.


    The Twilight Zone S3E30 'Hocus Pocus & Frisby' - DVR
    Mr. Frisby impresses quite a few people with his vivid imagination.
    (Comcast)
    A rural gas station attendant given to telling tall tales about himself
    is kidnapped by aliens who believe him to be one of Earth's leading
    intellects. (IMDb)
    Trivia: Having been born on October 16, 1879, Clem Bevans (Pete) was the earliest-born actor to appear on the series. This was also his final
    credited role.
    Another episode where the Twilight zone benefited from MGM's large
    amount of stock props. The domed device on the alien craft is the
    'astrogator' from Forbidden Planet (1956). The cruiser C-57-D's steps
    are also used in the ship.
    At 21:20 the console seen on the alien spacecraft is the same one used
    at times in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (1964)'s headquarters as Mr.
    Waverly's overseas relay communicator console.


    What Did You Watch?


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  • From Arthur Lipscomb@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Mar 10 10:29:52 2024
    On 3/10/2024 9:49 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    The Twilight Zone S3E27 'Person or Persons Unknown' - DVR
    David Gurney wakes up with a hangover, but that's the least of his problems.  (Comcast)
    Paying homage to It's a Wonderful Life (1946), David Gurney wakes up to another ordinary day. Except today, nobody knows who he is including his
    own wife Wilma.  (IMDb)
    Trivia: One of the first instances on television to show a couple
    sharing a single bed, sleeping next to each other. Around this time, TV
    shows could only portray couples sleeping in separate beds due to television's strict standards & practices. In season five's Stopover in
    a Quiet Town (1964), a very similar situation occurs. In both cases, the
    man is sleeping on top of the covers, is still fully dressed (even
    wearing his shoes), and they are hung over from a bout of heavy drinking.
    The two phone numbers Richard Long calls are Klondike 5-2131 and
    Klondike 5-3472 and may be the first 555 numbers used in television
    history.


    I don't really remember this one. But I think 80s Twilight Zone had one
    or two episodes with a similar plot.


    The Twilight Zone S3E28 'The Little People' - DVR
    A space traveler finds an Earth-like civilization the size of ants.
    (Comcast)
    On a desolate planet, two astronauts discover an entire society
    populated by incredibly small beings. One of the astronauts decides to
    rule the society as a god.
    Trivia: The rocket launch depicted was in reality a test flight of a Mercury-Atlas booster. This was quite timely; this episode aired about a month after NASA's John Glenn became the first astronaut to attain Earth orbit upon such a rocket.
    The weapons and giants' uniforms were reused from Forbidden Planet (1956).



    One of the more memorable episodes.


    The Twilight Zone S3E29 'Four O'Clock' - DVR
    An obsessed Oliver Crangle (Theodore Bikel) tells an FBI agent that a
    drastic transformation will take place on all the evil people in the
    world.  (Comcast)
    A very obsessed man wants to expose evil in the world, investigating
    people he sees as murderers, subversives, perverts and communists, then attempting to ruin their lives.  (IMDb)
    Credit:  Parrot     ...     Parrot (uncredited)    with a link to https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10455435/ giving four credits in 'The Return
    of the Pink Panther (1975), Adam-12 (1972), Gilligan's Island (four
    episodes, 1964-1966) with this TZ episode as its first credit.



    This wasn't a good one.

    The Twilight Zone S3E30 'Hocus Pocus & Frisby' - DVR
    Mr. Frisby impresses quite a few people with his vivid imagination.
    (Comcast)
    A rural gas station attendant given to telling tall tales about himself
    is kidnapped by aliens who believe him to be one of Earth's leading intellects.  (IMDb)


    I'm trying to remember the twist on this one, or was being captured by
    aliens the twist?

    Trivia: Having been born on October 16, 1879, Clem Bevans (Pete) was the earliest-born actor to appear on the series. This was also his final
    credited role.
    Another episode where the Twilight zone benefited from MGM's large
    amount of stock props. The domed device on the alien craft is the 'astrogator' from Forbidden Planet (1956). The cruiser C-57-D's steps
    are also used in the ship.
    At 21:20 the console seen on the alien spacecraft is the same one used
    at times in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (1964)'s headquarters as Mr.
    Waverly's overseas relay communicator console.


    What Did You Watch?




    I watched:


    Elsbeth (CBS) New murder mystery about a quirky detective (I mean
    lawyer) named Monk, I mean Mrs. Columbo, I mean Elsbeth, who notices
    things other people don't notice and helps police solve crimes whether
    they want the help or not. First up she solves the murder of a young
    actress by noticing she used two spaces instead of one when she typed
    her suicide note, and noting only old people use two spaces. Wait, a
    minute, *I* use two spaces when I type! And I'm *not* old! I had *no*
    idea when I watched but according to Wiki this is a spin off of "The
    Good Wife" and "The Good Fight" two shows I never watched before. Now
    I'm wishing I didn't know it was a spin-off because I'm going to assume
    there's a lot of background stuff going on that I'm missing.


    Ghosts - "Halloween 3: The Guest Who Wouldn't Leave" - The character of "Flower" was written out this season. I don't know if was a mutual
    decision or what, but they have been talking about her nonstop all
    season. This episode had a lot of subplots but the main plot was
    probably an attempt to contact flower via seance which can only be done
    on Halloween. In the other plot Pete's annoying widow Carol shows up
    for a party and dies on the property so now her ghosts is there too.
    But at first no one knows she's dead not even Carol who doesn't realize
    she died and sense Sam can see dead people...wackiness ensues.


    Family Guy - "Cabin Pressure" - This new episode aired on Wednesday. I
    guess they changed their air date. Anyway Peter takes his entire
    neighborhood with him on vacation. What cold go wrong?


    Rustin (Netflix) biopic about 60s civil rights leader Baynard Rustin.
    Colman Domingo got an Oscar nomination so I had to watch. It was OK.
    Only one movie left to watch before the show and I will have watched
    every major nominated movie/performance.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sun Mar 10 18:11:56 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    The Twilight Zone S3E27 'Person or Persons Unknown' - DVR
    David Gurney wakes up with a hangover, but that's the least of his
    problems. (Comcast)
    Paying homage to It's a Wonderful Life (1946), David Gurney wakes up to >another ordinary day. Except today, nobody knows who he is including his
    own wife Wilma. (IMDb)
    Trivia: One of the first instances on television to show a couple
    sharing a single bed, sleeping next to each other. Around this time, TV
    shows could only portray couples sleeping in separate beds due to >television's strict standards & practices. In season five's Stopover in
    a Quiet Town (1964), a very similar situation occurs. In both cases, the
    man is sleeping on top of the covers, is still fully dressed (even
    wearing his shoes), and they are hung over from a bout of heavy drinking.
    The two phone numbers Richard Long calls are Klondike 5-2131 and
    Klondike 5-3472 and may be the first 555 numbers used in television history.

    To be fair, AT&T had just designated area codes in 1947 and the dialing
    plan N(0,1)X NNX-XXXX, which took decades to be adopted throughout the
    United States and outlying territories, Canada, Bermuda, and a portion
    of the Carribean (and a couple of other places). Even in big cities,
    there party lines and six-digit telephone numbers in the 1950s.

    It's entirely possible that the location in the fictional story had not
    yet converted to seven-digit local telephone numbers.

    Numbers of the form of N(0,1)X 555 (KLondike 5)-1212 were reserved for
    access to directory assistance from foreign area codes, and other 555
    line numbers were reserved for other purposes. Today, it's largely
    available for line number assignment. That's why it was convenient for
    use in movies and tv.

    . . .

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Arthur Lipscomb on Sun Mar 10 18:23:45 2024
    Arthur Lipscomb <arthur@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

    Elsbeth (CBS) New murder mystery about a quirky detective (I mean
    lawyer) named Monk, I mean Mrs. Columbo, I mean Elsbeth, who notices
    things other people don't notice and helps police solve crimes whether
    they want the help or not. First up she solves the murder of a young
    actress by noticing she used two spaces instead of one when she typed
    her suicide note, and noting only old people use two spaces. Wait, a
    minute, *I* use two spaces when I type! And I'm *not* old! I had *no*
    idea when I watched but according to Wiki this is a spin off of "The
    Good Wife" and "The Good Fight" two shows I never watched before. Now
    I'm wishing I didn't know it was a spin-off because I'm going to assume >there's a lot of background stuff going on that I'm missing.

    Elsbeth Tascioni (Carrie Preston) was a recurring character on The Good
    Wife, a quirky but brilliant defense attorney. i was going to say she
    was on a dozen episodes, but IMDb sez 14 episodes. There's no backstory.
    The Good Wife was set in Chicago (filmed in Queens with nearly no
    Chicago establishment shots). I disliked The Good Fight and have no idea
    if Elsbeth was given a backstory on that show.

    There's no possibility that the character can carry a weekly show, and
    the writing stunk. They weren't even hiding that it was a Columbo ripoff
    (not a Mrs. Columbo ripoff as she wasn't quirky).

    All the backstory you need was in the pilot, that she was sent from
    Chicago to New York by the FBI agent in Chicago because -- from the
    field office in another part of the country -- he was investigating
    Bunk, something that wouldn't happen in real life.

    Clearly they've dropped the defense attorney profession to substitute an
    absurd hook as to why she's investigating and second guessing detectives
    and solving crimes as a civilian.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Arthur Lipscomb on Sun Mar 10 15:31:59 2024
    On 3/10/2024 10:29 AM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
    On 3/10/2024 9:49 AM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    The Twilight Zone S3E27 'Person or Persons Unknown' - DVR
    David Gurney wakes up with a hangover, but that's the least of his
    problems.  (Comcast)
    Paying homage to It's a Wonderful Life (1946), David Gurney wakes up
    to another ordinary day. Except today, nobody knows who he is
    including his own wife Wilma.  (IMDb)
    Trivia: One of the first instances on television to show a couple
    sharing a single bed, sleeping next to each other. Around this time,
    TV shows could only portray couples sleeping in separate beds due to
    television's strict standards & practices. In season five's Stopover
    in a Quiet Town (1964), a very similar situation occurs. In both
    cases, the man is sleeping on top of the covers, is still fully
    dressed (even wearing his shoes), and they are hung over from a bout
    of heavy drinking.
    The two phone numbers Richard Long calls are Klondike 5-2131 and
    Klondike 5-3472 and may be the first 555 numbers used in television
    history.


    I don't really remember this one.  But I think 80s Twilight Zone had one
    or two episodes with a similar plot.


    The Twilight Zone S3E28 'The Little People' - DVR
    A space traveler finds an Earth-like civilization the size of ants.
    (Comcast)
    On a desolate planet, two astronauts discover an entire society
    populated by incredibly small beings. One of the astronauts decides to
    rule the society as a god.
    Trivia: The rocket launch depicted was in reality a test flight of a
    Mercury-Atlas booster. This was quite timely; this episode aired about
    a month after NASA's John Glenn became the first astronaut to attain
    Earth orbit upon such a rocket.
    The weapons and giants' uniforms were reused from Forbidden Planet
    (1956).



    One of the more memorable episodes.


    The Twilight Zone S3E29 'Four O'Clock' - DVR
    An obsessed Oliver Crangle (Theodore Bikel) tells an FBI agent that a
    drastic transformation will take place on all the evil people in the
    world.  (Comcast)
    A very obsessed man wants to expose evil in the world, investigating
    people he sees as murderers, subversives, perverts and communists,
    then attempting to ruin their lives.  (IMDb)
    Credit:  Parrot     ...     Parrot (uncredited)    with a link to
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10455435/ giving four credits in 'The
    Return of the Pink Panther (1975), Adam-12 (1972), Gilligan's Island
    (four episodes, 1964-1966) with this TZ episode as its first credit.



    This wasn't a good one.

    The Twilight Zone S3E30 'Hocus Pocus & Frisby' - DVR
    Mr. Frisby impresses quite a few people with his vivid imagination.
    (Comcast)
    A rural gas station attendant given to telling tall tales about
    himself is kidnapped by aliens who believe him to be one of Earth's
    leading intellects.  (IMDb)


    I'm trying to remember the twist on this one, or was being captured by
    aliens the twist?

    Frisby's "playing" the harmonica is deadly to the aliens and is key to
    his escape.

    Trivia: Having been born on October 16, 1879, Clem Bevans (Pete) was
    the earliest-born actor to appear on the series. This was also his
    final credited role.
    Another episode where the Twilight zone benefited from MGM's large
    amount of stock props. The domed device on the alien craft is the
    'astrogator' from Forbidden Planet (1956). The cruiser C-57-D's steps
    are also used in the ship.
    At 21:20 the console seen on the alien spacecraft is the same one used
    at times in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (1964)'s headquarters as Mr.
    Waverly's overseas relay communicator console.


    What Did You Watch?




    I watched:


    Elsbeth (CBS) New murder mystery about a quirky detective (I mean
    lawyer) named Monk, I mean Mrs. Columbo, I mean Elsbeth, who notices
    things other people don't notice and helps police solve crimes whether
    they want the help or not.  First up she solves the murder of a young actress by noticing she used two spaces instead of one when she typed
    her suicide note, and noting only old people use two spaces.  Wait, a minute, *I* use two spaces when I type!  And I'm *not* old!  I had *no* idea when I watched but according to Wiki this is a spin off of "The
    Good Wife" and "The Good Fight" two shows I never watched before.  Now
    I'm wishing I didn't know it was a spin-off because I'm going to assume there's a lot of background stuff going on that I'm missing.


    Ghosts - "Halloween 3: The Guest Who Wouldn't Leave" - The character of "Flower" was written out this season.  I don't know if was a mutual
    decision or what, but they have been talking about her nonstop all
    season.  This episode had a lot of subplots but the main plot was
    probably an attempt to contact flower via seance which can only be done
    on Halloween.  In the other plot Pete's annoying widow Carol shows up
    for a party and dies on the property so now her ghosts is there too. But
    at first no one knows she's dead not even Carol who doesn't realize she
    died and sense Sam can see dead people...wackiness ensues.


    Family Guy - "Cabin Pressure" - This new episode aired on Wednesday.  I guess they changed their air date.  Anyway Peter takes his entire neighborhood with him on vacation.  What cold go wrong?


    Rustin (Netflix) biopic about 60s civil rights leader Baynard Rustin.
    Colman Domingo got an Oscar nomination so I had to watch.  It was OK.
    Only one movie left to watch before the show and I will have watched
    every major nominated movie/performance.




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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Sun Mar 10 23:10:26 2024
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus
    the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia’s space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years (sometimes it’s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR TOP in the Migar solar system.
    Some of the aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one species and pertaining to be another so
    he didn’t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all inhabited nearby, living beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them down and puts their
    life force in a little version of the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to
    these missing peoples families, and promises to help them, find them, not bothering to mention to the grieving mothers, that he’s going to murder
    their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent abilities. When Cole tells
    us that Joanne Kelly from Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate
    to use her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show opening about halfway through the series.

    For whatever reason Cole himself didn’t need to snatch a body; he just
    built one from scratch based on the billboard of an underwear model that’s out in the middle of a field where no one could see it.

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is the first person
    he runs into. She is aided in her mission by an extremely ditzy barkeeper.
    The running gag is that she inherited everything, including the bar and the barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break anything she says she inherited that from her grandmother. Ha, ha.

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom, which either allows
    him to go back slightly in time or to stop time while he runs around. You’d think you could fix anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws a
    girl out of a window. Cole stops time and runs downstairs and catches her
    (like that would help.) but then looks upstairs helplessly because
    obviously the bad guy would have escaped by now. Why? Hasn’t zero time passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series format. Cole figures
    out how to use his image projector to look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can
    take the week off. In a very special two part episode, the ditzy barkeep
    goes to London to be chased by Jack the Ripper, and an incredibly young
    Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh so briefly. Everybody but the top two characters it disappears from the opening credits. But the evil forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the girl who owns the bar
    has been half alien all this time, and can do some of Cole’s magic tricks. Apparently she inherited this from her grandmother.

    In the conclusion of the evil Zin storyline it turns out there’s something buried 500 feet under Chicago that will kill everybody everywhere. Cole
    stops him by locking him in the vault with the device. Isn’t that the last place you’d want him to be?

    The senses shattering series finale is both a clip show and a will they or won’t they show. Cole figures out that if he just turns the knob on his Ghostbusters containment vessel to the left, it will suck in every alien in
    the world all at once. But then he only has an hour to get them all back to prison because reasons so he catches everybody and says goodbye to the girl
    and leaves forever.

    And then a couple hours later, he’s back because he decided he’d rather hang around earth and it doesn’t bother the girl that he’s not even a physical being and it’s just using an inducer as long as it makes him look like an underwear model. Then unknown to them his secret computer in the
    secret computer room Secretly puts up a secret screen that secretly shows hundreds of secret alien presences…

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian‘s IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez “check it out!â€


    --
    Let's go Brandon!





    --
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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 05:32:52 2024
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia’s space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years (sometimes it’s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR TOP in the Migar solar system.
    Some of the aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one species and pertaining to be another so
    he didn’t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all inhabited nearby, living beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them down and puts their life force in a little version of the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to these missing peoples families, and promises to help them, find them, not bothering to mention to the grieving mothers, that he’s going to murder their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent abilities. When Cole tells us that Joanne Kelly from Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate
    to use her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show opening about halfway through the series.

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian‘s IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez “check it out!â€

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which
    is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 09:51:46 2024
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching
    starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the
    Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia?s space
    channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from
    Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the
    Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years
    (sometimes it?s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet
    SAR TOP in the Migar solar system. Some of the aliens are
    Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some
    Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course
    Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one
    species and pertaining to be another so he didn?t get beat
    up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings
    are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all
    inhabited nearby, living
    beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them
    down and puts their life force in a little version of the
    containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the host
    in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to
    these missing peoples families, and promises to help them,
    find them, not bothering to mention to the grieving
    mothers, that he?s going to murder their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent
    abilities. When Cole tells us that Joanne Kelly from
    Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate to use her
    Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by
    hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show opening
    about halfway through the series.

    For whatever reason Cole himself didn?t need to snatch a
    body; he just built one from scratch based on the
    billboard of an underwear model that?s out in the middle
    of a field where no one could see it.

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is
    the first person he runs into. She is aided in her mission
    by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. The running gag is that
    she inherited everything, including the bar and the
    barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break
    anything she says she inherited that from her grandmother.
    Ha, ha.

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom,
    which either allows him to go back slightly in time or to
    stop time while he runs around. You?d think you could fix
    anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws a girl
    out of a window. Cole stops time and runs downstairs and
    catches her (like that would help.) but then looks
    upstairs helplessly because obviously the bad guy would
    have escaped by now. Why? Hasn?t zero time passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series
    format. Cole figures out how to use his image projector to
    look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can take the week off. In
    a very special two part episode, the ditzy barkeep goes to
    London to be chased by Jack the Ripper, and an incredibly
    young Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh so briefly.
    Everybody but the top two characters it disappears from
    the opening credits. But the evil forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the girl
    who owns the bar has been half alien all this time, and
    can do some of Cole?s magic tricks. Apparently she
    inherited this from her grandmother.

    In the conclusion of the evil Zin storyline it turns out
    there?s something buried 500 feet under Chicago that will
    kill everybody everywhere. Cole stops him by locking him
    in the vault with the device. Isn?t that the last place
    you?d want him to be?

    The senses shattering series finale is both a clip show
    and a will they or
    won?t they show. Cole figures out that if he just turns
    the knob on his Ghostbusters containment vessel to the
    left, it will suck in every alien in the world all at
    once. But then he only has an hour to get them all back to
    prison because reasons so he catches everybody and says
    goodbye to the girl and leaves forever.

    And then a couple hours later, he?s back because he
    decided he?d rather hang around earth and it doesn?t
    bother the girl that he?s not even a physical being and
    it?s just using an inducer as long as it makes him look
    like an underwear model. Then unknown to them his secret
    computer in the secret computer room Secretly puts up a
    secret screen that secretly shows hundreds of secret alien
    presences?

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the
    running order right; Ian?s IMDb episode listing is
    completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and
    their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez ?check it out!?

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Nyssa, who wishes that there were a DVD available (that
    doesn't ship from Pakistan) of the 14 filmed (but
    not all broadcast) of "Brimstone"

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Mon Mar 11 14:49:02 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green >>Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >>the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >>earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 >>light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR >>TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which
    is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd
    want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all
    that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Nyssa on Mon Mar 11 15:07:05 2024
    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching
    starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the
    Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space
    channel. . . .

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Nyssa, who wishes that there were a DVD available (that
    doesn't ship from Pakistan) of the 14 filmed (but
    not all broadcast) of "Brimstone"

    Brimstone was broadcast on Fox, fall and winter quarters 1998-1999
    television season.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Nyssa on Mon Mar 11 08:37:52 2024
    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching
    starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the
    Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia?s space
    channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from
    Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the
    Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years
    (sometimes it?s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet
    SAR TOP in the Migar solar system. Some of the aliens are
    Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some
    Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course
    Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one
    species and pertaining to be another so he didn?t get beat
    up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings
    are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all
    inhabited nearby, living
    beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them
    down and puts their life force in a little version of the
    containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the host
    in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to
    these missing peoples families, and promises to help them,
    find them, not bothering to mention to the grieving
    mothers, that he?s going to murder their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent
    abilities. When Cole tells us that Joanne Kelly from
    Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate to use her
    Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by
    hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show opening
    about halfway through the series.

    For whatever reason Cole himself didn?t need to snatch a
    body; he just built one from scratch based on the
    billboard of an underwear model that?s out in the middle
    of a field where no one could see it.

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is
    the first person he runs into. She is aided in her mission
    by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. The running gag is that
    she inherited everything, including the bar and the
    barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break
    anything she says she inherited that from her grandmother.
    Ha, ha.

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom,
    which either allows him to go back slightly in time or to
    stop time while he runs around. You?d think you could fix
    anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws a girl
    out of a window. Cole stops time and runs downstairs and
    catches her (like that would help.) but then looks
    upstairs helplessly because obviously the bad guy would
    have escaped by now. Why? Hasn?t zero time passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series
    format. Cole figures out how to use his image projector to
    look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can take the week off. In
    a very special two part episode, the ditzy barkeep goes to
    London to be chased by Jack the Ripper, and an incredibly
    young Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh so briefly.
    Everybody but the top two characters it disappears from
    the opening credits. But the evil forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the girl
    who owns the bar has been half alien all this time, and
    can do some of Cole?s magic tricks. Apparently she
    inherited this from her grandmother.

    In the conclusion of the evil Zin storyline it turns out
    there?s something buried 500 feet under Chicago that will
    kill everybody everywhere. Cole stops him by locking him
    in the vault with the device. Isn?t that the last place
    you?d want him to be?

    The senses shattering series finale is both a clip show
    and a will they or
    won?t they show. Cole figures out that if he just turns
    the knob on his Ghostbusters containment vessel to the
    left, it will suck in every alien in the world all at
    once. But then he only has an hour to get them all back to
    prison because reasons so he catches everybody and says
    goodbye to the girl and leaves forever.

    And then a couple hours later, he?s back because he
    decided he?d rather hang around earth and it doesn?t
    bother the girl that he?s not even a physical being and
    it?s just using an inducer as long as it makes him look
    like an underwear model. Then unknown to them his secret
    computer in the secret computer room Secretly puts up a
    secret screen that secretly shows hundreds of secret alien
    presences?

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the
    running order right; Ian?s IMDb episode listing is
    completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and
    their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez ?check it out!?

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Brimstone was 20th century; Tracker was 21st century.



    Nyssa, who wishes that there were a DVD available (that
    doesn't ship from Pakistan) of the 14 filmed (but
    not all broadcast) of "Brimstone"






    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Mar 11 09:09:21 2024
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green >>> Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >>> the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >>> earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 >>> light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR >>> TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people
    leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which
    is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd
    want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all
    that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
    "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
    "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Mon Mar 11 09:13:25 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green
    Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >> the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia’s space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >> earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 >> light years (sometimes it’s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR >> TOP in the Migar solar system.
    Some of the aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some
    Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course Vardians, with the
    occasional prisoner, being of one species and pertaining to be another so
    he didn’t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings >> are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all inhabited nearby, living >> beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them down and puts their >> life force in a little version of the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, >> murdering the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to
    these missing peoples families, and promises to help them, find them, not
    bothering to mention to the grieving mothers, that he’s going to murder
    their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent abilities. When Cole tells >> us that Joanne Kelly from Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate
    to use her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by hitting him >> over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show opening about halfway
    through the series.

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian‘s IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people
    leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez “check it out!â€

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which
    is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    I found two sources on the gray. One is 512x384.
    The other, which says it comes from Tubi, is 640x480.
    Then I found a complete German rip at 480 x 272
    Then I found 12 seconds of naked Alexa Doig taking a bubble bath from the tracker 2000
    Finally (always the last place you look) I found the compilation movie
    alien tracker from 2003. It’s 576 x 320. Which is at least 16:9 aspect ratio.






    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

    Ditto

    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 09:56:43 2024
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia’s space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years (sometimes it’s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR TOP in the Migar solar system.
    Some of the aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one species and pertaining to be another so
    he didn’t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all inhabited nearby, living beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them down and puts their life force in a little version of the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to these missing peoples families, and promises to help them, find them, not bothering to mention to the grieving mothers, that he’s going to murder their missing sons.
    [snip]

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is the first person
    he runs into. She is aided in her mission by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. The running gag is that she inherited everything, including the bar and the barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break anything she says she inherited that from her grandmother. Ha, ha.

    I had forgotten about Amy Price-Francis - she wasn't bad looking!
    Neither was Leanne Wilson!

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom, which either allows him to go back slightly in time or to stop time while he runs around. You’d think you could fix anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws a girl out of a window. Cole stops time and runs downstairs and catches her (like that would help.) but then looks upstairs helplessly because
    obviously the bad guy would have escaped by now. Why? Hasn’t zero time passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series format. Cole figures
    out how to use his image projector to look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can take the week off. In a very special two part episode, the ditzy barkeep
    goes to London to be chased by Jack the Ripper, and an incredibly young Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh so briefly. Everybody but the top two characters it disappears from the opening credits. But the evil forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the girl who owns the bar has been half alien all this time, and can do some of Cole’s magic tricks. Apparently she inherited this from her grandmother.

    Ha! - "Episode #13" (on Tubi) has baby Rachel Skarsten!!

    (I wonder if this would have been before, or after, "Babes of Prey"?!

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian‘s IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez “check it out!â€

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Mon Mar 11 17:09:42 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green >>>>Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >>>>the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >>>>earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 >>>>light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR >>>>TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>>right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>>leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>>is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I >>>don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd >>want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an >>inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all >>that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    Yeah, you've complained about this before. I've got a decade and a half
    old HDTV, so it's not much of an issue.

    You'd think consumer electronics could come up with a mode to display a
    decent picture with older video without the shitty way signals get
    upconverted for a lousy result. Use bigger pixels?

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD - >"...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like >"Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    You were around at the time, obviously, and you know that wasn't the
    case. The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne was a special case meant
    to show off the features of the brand-new Sony HD camera system for
    television production. I had always assumed Sony kicked in something for
    the show's extraordinarily expensive budget, but I don't really know. As discussed in the other thread, the result was inadequate and it did not encourage a changeover from film to video for television production till
    the technology improved and the price came way down.

    But that's television PRODUCTION and nothing to do with what was produced
    for home video or second-run broadcast. Television production filmed on
    good movie film of the era, then converted to digital for broadcast and
    home video, would have been superior.

    I looked it up. Instead of producing it using decent film, they went
    another way. Arriflex 16 SR3 camera, a 16 mm film system. 16 mm never
    looked good. Clearly the producers thought this show would have no value
    in second run, producing it accordingly. TV was NTSC at the time so it
    didn't matter that 16 mm was being used. As I recall, Tracker had a lot
    of location shooting which helped brighten up production a bit as 16 mm
    tended to make indoor stuff look like it was shot in low light.

    The Arriflex system was from the mid '70s. SR3 was the final version,
    allowing for Super 16 mm (without modifying the format, a comment I do
    not understand on the Wikipedia page). Super 16 has sprockets on just
    the one side so the film track must be re-centered with respect to the
    lens. But this was before the German anamorphic lens system intended to
    allow Super 16 production of a film intended to be shown in theaters in Cinemascope 2.39:1 aspect ratio.

    How do you make any of this look good for a digital upconversion? I just
    don't see how.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Mon Mar 11 11:08:08 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green
    Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >> the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia’s space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >> earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 >> light years (sometimes it’s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR >> TOP in the Migar solar system.
    Some of the aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some
    Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course Vardians, with the
    occasional prisoner, being of one species and pertaining to be another so
    he didn’t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings >> are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all inhabited nearby, living >> beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them down and puts their >> life force in a little version of the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, >> murdering the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to
    these missing peoples families, and promises to help them, find them, not
    bothering to mention to the grieving mothers, that he’s going to murder
    their missing sons.
    [snip]

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is the first person
    he runs into. She is aided in her mission by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. >> The running gag is that she inherited everything, including the bar and the >> barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break anything she says she >> inherited that from her grandmother. Ha, ha.

    I had forgotten about Amy Price-Francis - she wasn't bad looking!
    Neither was Leanne Wilson!

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom, which either allows >> him to go back slightly in time or to stop time while he runs around. You’d
    think you could fix anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws a
    girl out of a window. Cole stops time and runs downstairs and catches her
    (like that would help.) but then looks upstairs helplessly because
    obviously the bad guy would have escaped by now. Why? Hasn’t zero time
    passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series format. Cole figures
    out how to use his image projector to look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can >> take the week off. In a very special two part episode, the ditzy barkeep
    goes to London to be chased by Jack the Ripper, and an incredibly young
    Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh so briefly. Everybody but the top two
    characters it disappears from the opening credits. But the evil forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the girl who owns the bar >> has been half alien all this time, and can do some of Cole’s magic tricks. >> Apparently she inherited this from her grandmother.

    Ha! - "Episode #13" (on Tubi) has baby Rachel Skarsten!!

    (I wonder if this would have been before, or after, "Babes of Prey"?!


    Before


    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian‘s IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people
    leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez “check it out!â€






    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Mon Mar 11 15:37:12 2024
    Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is
    watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the
    Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's
    space channel. . . .

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Nyssa, who wishes that there were a DVD available (that
    doesn't ship from Pakistan) of the 14 filmed (but
    not all broadcast) of "Brimstone"

    Brimstone was broadcast on Fox, fall and winter quarters
    1998-1999 television season.

    Thank you!

    I kind of thought that "Brimstone" was first, but I
    wasn't 100% sure. So "Tracker" in 2001 um...borrowed
    from Brimstone.

    I sounds as though "Brimstone" was better. I've got
    a couple or three episodes recorded. Maybe I should
    re-watch those to refresh my memory.

    Nyssa, who remembers that John Glover was an especially
    devilish Devil in "Brimstone"

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 15:43:37 2024
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is
    watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the
    Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia?s
    space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from
    Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the
    Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years
    (sometimes it?s 100,000,000 light years) from their
    planet SAR TOP in the Migar solar system. Some of the
    aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians,
    some Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course
    Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one
    species and pertaining to be another so he didn?t get
    beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these
    beings
    are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all
    inhabited nearby, living
    beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them
    down and puts their life force in a little version of
    the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the
    host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes
    to these missing peoples families, and promises to help
    them, find them, not bothering to mention to the
    grieving mothers, that he?s going to murder their
    missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent
    abilities. When Cole tells us that Joanne Kelly from
    Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate to use
    her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by
    hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show
    opening about halfway through the series.

    For whatever reason Cole himself didn?t need to snatch a
    body; he just built one from scratch based on the
    billboard of an underwear model that?s out in the middle
    of a field where no one could see it.

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is
    the first person he runs into. She is aided in her
    mission by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. The running gag
    is that she inherited everything, including the bar and
    the barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break
    anything she says she inherited that from her
    grandmother. Ha, ha.

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom,
    which either allows him to go back slightly in time or
    to stop time while he runs around. You?d think you could
    fix anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws
    a girl out of a window. Cole stops time and runs
    downstairs and catches her (like that would help.) but
    then looks upstairs helplessly because obviously the bad
    guy would have escaped by now. Why? Hasn?t zero time
    passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series
    format. Cole figures out how to use his image projector
    to look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can take the week
    off. In a very special two part episode, the ditzy
    barkeep goes to London to be chased by Jack the Ripper,
    and an incredibly young Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh
    so briefly. Everybody but the top two characters it
    disappears from the opening credits. But the evil
    forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the
    girl who owns the bar has been half alien all this time,
    and can do some of Cole?s magic tricks. Apparently she
    inherited this from her grandmother.

    In the conclusion of the evil Zin storyline it turns out
    there?s something buried 500 feet under Chicago that
    will kill everybody everywhere. Cole stops him by
    locking him in the vault with the device. Isn?t that the
    last place you?d want him to be?

    The senses shattering series finale is both a clip show
    and a will they or
    won?t they show. Cole figures out that if he just turns
    the knob on his Ghostbusters containment vessel to the
    left, it will suck in every alien in the world all at
    once. But then he only has an hour to get them all back
    to prison because reasons so he catches everybody and
    says goodbye to the girl and leaves forever.

    And then a couple hours later, he?s back because he
    decided he?d rather hang around earth and it doesn?t
    bother the girl that he?s not even a physical being and
    it?s just using an inducer as long as it makes him look
    like an underwear model. Then unknown to them his secret
    computer in the secret computer room Secretly puts up a
    secret screen that secretly shows hundreds of secret
    alien presences?

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the
    running order right; Ian?s IMDb episode listing is
    completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and
    their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez ?check it out!?

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Brimstone was 20th century; Tracker was 21st century.

    I thought so, but I wasn't certain until Adam set me
    straight.

    "Brimstone" deserved better treatment than it got from
    Fox. They didn't even broadcast the 14th episode. :P~~~

    Nyssa who always seems to like shows that get canceled
    before they can find the rest of their audience

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 15:59:16 2024
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 09:13:25 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
    wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green >>> Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >>> the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia’s space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >>> earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 >>> light years (sometimes it’s 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR
    TOP in the Migar solar system.
    Some of the aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians, some
    Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course Vardians, with the
    occasional prisoner, being of one species and pertaining to be another so >>> he didn’t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these beings
    are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all inhabited nearby, living >>> beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them down and puts their >>> life force in a little version of the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, >>> murdering the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes to >>> these missing peoples families, and promises to help them, find them, not >>> bothering to mention to the grieving mothers, that he’s going to murder >>> their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent abilities. When Cole tells >>> us that Joanne Kelly from Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate >>> to use her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by hitting him >>> over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show opening about halfway >>> through the series.

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order
    right; Ian‘s IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez “check it out!â€

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which
    is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    I found two sources on the gray. One is 512x384.
    The other, which says it comes from Tubi, is 640x480.
    Then I found a complete German rip at 480 x 272
    Then I found 12 seconds of naked Alexa Doig taking a bubble bath from the >tracker 2000
    Finally (always the last place you look) I found the compilation movie
    alien tracker from 2003. It’s 576 x 320. Which is at least 16:9 aspect >ratio.

    You forgot the 1080P version that had been upscaled from a lower
    version (and looks just as bad as you might expect.)
    I had completely forgotten about this show until I downloaded the
    first episode and took a look at it. Then I remembered watching it
    back when it first aired. No reason anyone should really want to watch
    this now.





    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

    Ditto

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net on Mon Mar 11 20:32:00 2024
    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is
    watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the
    Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia?s
    space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from
    Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that the
    Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years
    (sometimes it?s 100,000,000 light years) from their
    planet SAR TOP in the Migar solar system. Some of the
    aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians,
    some Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of course
    Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being of one
    species and pertaining to be another so he didn?t get
    beat up in the prison yard. Apparently, none of these
    beings
    are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all
    inhabited nearby, living
    beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them
    down and puts their life force in a little version of
    the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering the
    host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as he goes
    to these missing peoples families, and promises to help
    them, find them, not bothering to mention to the
    grieving mothers, that he?s going to murder their
    missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent
    abilities. When Cole tells us that Joanne Kelly from
    Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate to use
    her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates by
    hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show
    opening about halfway through the series.

    For whatever reason Cole himself didn?t need to snatch a
    body; he just built one from scratch based on the
    billboard of an underwear model that?s out in the middle
    of a field where no one could see it.

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who is
    the first person he runs into. She is aided in her
    mission by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. The running gag
    is that she inherited everything, including the bar and
    the barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime they break
    anything she says she inherited that from her
    grandmother. Ha, ha.

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly seldom,
    which either allows him to go back slightly in time or
    to stop time while he runs around. You?d think you could
    fix anything this way. For instance, the bad guy throws
    a girl out of a window. Cole stops time and runs
    downstairs and catches her (like that would help.) but
    then looks upstairs helplessly because obviously the bad
    guy would have escaped by now. Why? Hasn?t zero time
    passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series
    format. Cole figures out how to use his image projector
    to look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can take the week
    off. In a very special two part episode, the ditzy
    barkeep goes to London to be chased by Jack the Ripper,
    and an incredibly young Kathryn Winnick replaces her oh
    so briefly. Everybody but the top two characters it
    disappears from the opening credits. But the evil
    forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the
    girl who owns the bar has been half alien all this time,
    and can do some of Cole?s magic tricks. Apparently she
    inherited this from her grandmother.

    In the conclusion of the evil Zin storyline it turns out
    there?s something buried 500 feet under Chicago that
    will kill everybody everywhere. Cole stops him by
    locking him in the vault with the device. Isn?t that the
    last place you?d want him to be?

    The senses shattering series finale is both a clip show
    and a will they or
    won?t they show. Cole figures out that if he just turns
    the knob on his Ghostbusters containment vessel to the
    left, it will suck in every alien in the world all at
    once. But then he only has an hour to get them all back
    to prison because reasons so he catches everybody and
    says goodbye to the girl and leaves forever.

    And then a couple hours later, he?s back because he
    decided he?d rather hang around earth and it doesn?t
    bother the girl that he?s not even a physical being and
    it?s just using an inducer as long as it makes him look
    like an underwear model. Then unknown to them his secret
    computer in the secret computer room Secretly puts up a
    secret screen that secretly shows hundreds of secret
    alien presences?

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the
    running order right; Ian?s IMDb episode listing is
    completely wrong, based on people leaving the series and
    their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez ?check it out!?

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Brimstone was 20th century; Tracker was 21st century.

    I thought so, but I wasn't certain until Adam set me
    straight.

    "Brimstone" deserved better treatment than it got from
    Fox. They didn't even broadcast the 14th episode. :P~~~

    Ha ha

    All produced episodes were broadcast. They didn't order another season.

    Nyssa who always seems to like shows that get canceled
    before they can find the rest of their audience

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Tue Mar 12 10:04:56 2024
    Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:
    anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
    I watched:


    What did you watch?

    Hey, thanks for asking!

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is
    watching starring Green Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring
    the Highlander versus the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia?s
    space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from
    Cirron who comes to earth chasing 218 prisoners that
    the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100 light years
    (sometimes it?s 100,000,000 light years) from their
    planet SAR TOP in the Migar solar system. Some of the
    aliens are Cirronians, some Desserians, some Enixians,
    some Nodulians, some Orsusians, and some are, of
    course Vardians, with the occasional prisoner, being
    of one species and pertaining to be another so he
    didn?t get beat up in the prison yard. Apparently,
    none of these beings
    are corporeal. So when they landed here, they all
    inhabited nearby, living
    beings usually but not always human. Cole tracks them
    down and puts their life force in a little version of
    the containment vessel from Ghostbusters, murdering
    the host in the process. Which is sort of amusing as
    he goes to these missing peoples families, and
    promises to help them, find them, not bothering to
    mention to the grieving mothers, that he?s going to
    murder their missing sons.

    All these characters have different inconsistent
    abilities. When Cole tells us that Joanne Kelly from
    Warehouse the 13th the series does not hesitate to use
    her Desserian abilities against him, she demonstrates
    by hitting him over the head with a 2 x 4.

    They finally start explaining all this in the show
    opening about halfway through the series.

    For whatever reason Cole himself didn?t need to snatch
    a body; he just built one from scratch based on the
    billboard of an underwear model that?s out in the
    middle of a field where no one could see it.

    He is aided in his mission by a plucky bar owner, who
    is the first person he runs into. She is aided in her
    mission by an extremely ditzy barkeeper. The running
    gag is that she inherited everything, including the
    bar and the barkeep from her grandmother, and anytime
    they break anything she says she inherited that from
    her grandmother. Ha, ha.

    Cole has a superpower that he uses surprisingly
    seldom, which either allows him to go back slightly in
    time or to stop time while he runs around. You?d think
    you could fix anything this way. For instance, the bad
    guy throws a girl out of a window. Cole stops time and
    runs downstairs and catches her (like that would
    help.) but then looks upstairs helplessly because
    obviously the bad guy would have escaped by now. Why?
    Hasn?t zero time passed?

    Towards the end, they start messing with the series
    format. Cole figures out how to use his image
    projector to look like anyone, so Adrian Paul can take
    the week off. In a very special two part episode, the
    ditzy barkeep goes to London to be chased by Jack the
    Ripper, and an incredibly young Kathryn Winnick
    replaces her oh so briefly. Everybody but the top two
    characters it disappears from the opening credits. But
    the evil forever
    night vampire Zin will soon be back. We find out the
    girl who owns the bar has been half alien all this
    time, and can do some of Cole?s magic tricks.
    Apparently she inherited this from her grandmother.

    In the conclusion of the evil Zin storyline it turns
    out there?s something buried 500 feet under Chicago
    that will kill everybody everywhere. Cole stops him by
    locking him in the vault with the device. Isn?t that
    the last place you?d want him to be?

    The senses shattering series finale is both a clip
    show and a will they or
    won?t they show. Cole figures out that if he just
    turns the knob on his Ghostbusters containment vessel
    to the left, it will suck in every alien in the world
    all at once. But then he only has an hour to get them
    all back to prison because reasons so he catches
    everybody and says goodbye to the girl and leaves
    forever.

    And then a couple hours later, he?s back because he
    decided he?d rather hang around earth and it doesn?t
    bother the girl that he?s not even a physical being
    and it?s just using an inducer as long as it makes him
    look like an underwear model. Then unknown to them his
    secret computer in the secret computer room Secretly
    puts up a secret screen that secretly shows hundreds
    of secret alien presences?

    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have
    the running order right; Ian?s IMDb episode listing is
    completely wrong, based on people leaving the series
    and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez ?check it out!?

    The premise sounds like "Brimstone" only the good guy
    doing the chasing of bad guys on "Brimstone" doesn't
    have any superpowers. He's just a dead cop recruited
    by the Devil to round up the excapees.

    And the equivalent of the barkeeper lady is the clerk
    at the two-bit dive the dead cop is sleeping in.

    The question becomes: Which series was first and stole
    the premise from the other?

    Brimstone was 20th century; Tracker was 21st century.

    I thought so, but I wasn't certain until Adam set me
    straight.

    "Brimstone" deserved better treatment than it got from
    Fox. They didn't even broadcast the 14th episode. :P~~~

    Ha ha

    All produced episodes were broadcast. They didn't order
    another season.

    It didn't even make it through a *whole* season.

    From what I'd read at the time, there was a 14th episode
    in the can, but Fox pulled the plug and never aired it.
    No reason given by Fox, but my guess is that they already
    had something (probably cheaper to produce) ready to substitute
    in that time slot and would gain nothing from showing
    something that wasn't continuing anyway.

    I think it was finally gaining an audience, after a
    slow start, via word-of-mouth. There have been other
    series that started slowly and gained audience as
    the season progressed, but as we're seeing now, the
    suits are 'way too quick to cancel something rather
    than letting an audience build up as the story progresses
    and more people get pulled in.

    If it isn't an instant "hit" by some measure (or is
    more expensive to produce than a reality show filler),
    yank it and roll the dice again. Thus pissing off
    viewers who afterwards are less likely to trust the
    network not to rinse and repeat as new shows appear.

    Nyssa, who is in the camp of not trusting the networks
    to pull a show she likes and filling the airwaves with
    crappy (non)reality shows or unfunny sitcoms

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Tue Mar 12 11:12:30 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green >>>> Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus >>>> the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to >>>> earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100
    light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR >>>> TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>> right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>> is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd
    want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all
    that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD - "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    --
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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 14:58:40 2024
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green >>>>> Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus
    the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to
    earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100
    light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR
    TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>>> right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>>> is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I
    don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd >>> want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all
    that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
    "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
    "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't
    until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Tue Mar 12 18:22:21 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green
    Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus
    the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to
    earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100
    light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR
    TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>>>> right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>>>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>>>> is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I >>>>> don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd >>>> want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all >>>> that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
    "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
    "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.


    But tracker is from 2001 and I thought your main complaint was that you couldn’t find it in HD?

    --
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Wed Mar 13 01:37:19 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green
    Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus
    the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel.

    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to
    earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came
    exactly 100
    light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR
    TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>>>> right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>>>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>>>> is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I >>>>> don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd >>>> want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all >>>> that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
    "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
    "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't >until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and
    early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.

    By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which
    faded after three years or so.

    I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it
    looked like crap.

    That's a method of television production that got worse.

    I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed,
    that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Tue Mar 12 19:07:56 2024
    On 3/12/24 6:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green
    Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus
    the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel. >>>>>
    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to
    earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came
    exactly 100
    light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR
    TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>>>>> right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>>>>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>>>>> is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I >>>>>> don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd >>>>> want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all >>>>> that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
    "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
    "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't
    until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and
    early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.

    By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which
    faded after three years or so.

    I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it
    looked like crap.

    That's a method of television production that got worse.

    I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed,
    that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.

    "CSI"? "Babes of Prey"?

    I doubt either were "filmed", but both were HD.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 19:08:50 2024
    On 3/12/24 6:22 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/11/24 7:49 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/10/24 11:10 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:

    TRACKER

    No, not this silly uncredited remake that Adam is watching starring Green
    Aquaman.

    The one and only original series from 2001, starring the Highlander versus
    the vampire from Forever Knight!

    An incredibly goofy one season wonder from Canadia's space channel. >>>>>
    Adrian Paul is Daggon, a.k.a. Cole a prison guard from Cirron who comes to
    earth chasing 218 prisoners that the Evil Zin released and came exactly 100
    light years (sometimes it's 100,000,000 light years) from their planet SAR
    TOP in the Migar solar system. . . .

    [snip]
    On Freevee and other services. Freevee seems to have the running order >>>>>>> right; Ian's IMDb episode listing is completely wrong, based on people >>>>>>> leaving the series and their storylines being wrapped up.

    Fred-Bob sez "check it out!"

    I asked Anim, but it sounds like this series is in SDTV, not HDTV, which >>>>>> is a turnoff to me... [shrug]

    P.S. I never saw this on Sci-Fi when it originally aired. In fact, I >>>>>> don't even remember that it existed!!

    I remember this. Adrian Paul was quite laconic. I have no idea why you'd >>>>> want to see this in HD. As you point out often enough, there's an
    inadequate signal level to upgrade. The special effects didn't look all >>>>> that brilliant at the time and they won't improve output as HD.

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD -
    "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB,
    like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like
    "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't
    until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    But tracker is from 2001 and I thought your main complaint was that you couldn’t find it in HD?

    Yes, because I'm assuming "Tracker" was shot in SD. Because it was 2001.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Wed Mar 13 02:27:07 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 6:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    . . .

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD - >>>>>"...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB, >>>>>like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like >>>>>"Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't >>>until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and
    early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in >>Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.

    By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which
    faded after three years or so.

    I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it
    looked like crap.

    That's a method of television production that got worse.

    I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed,
    that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.

    "CSI"?

    CSI was filmed for 16:9, I think from the beginning.

    Various Panavision cameras, 35 mm film

    "Babes of Prey"?

    4:3

    Arricam ST and Arricam 435. Both are 35 mm film systems.

    I doubt either were "filmed", but both were HD.

    Both were filmed. Ian, you're not listening.

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  • From Ian J. Ball@21:1/5 to Adam H. Kerman on Tue Mar 12 20:40:53 2024
    On 3/12/24 7:27 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 6:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    . . .

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD - >>>>>> "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB, >>>>>> like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like >>>>>> "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't >>>> until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and
    early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in
    Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.

    By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which
    faded after three years or so.

    I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it
    looked like crap.

    That's a method of television production that got worse.

    I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed,
    that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.

    "CSI"?

    CSI was filmed for 16:9, I think from the beginning.

    Various Panavision cameras, 35 mm film

    "Babes of Prey"?

    4:3

    Arricam ST and Arricam 435. Both are 35 mm film systems.

    I doubt either were "filmed", but both were HD.

    Both were filmed. Ian, you're not listening.

    Try not to be tedious, Adam. I was listening. I just don't know off-hand
    which shows were filmed and which were shot on tape.

    For instance, I didn't list "Smallville", as I am pretty sure that show
    was filmed.

    I can't think of a good (HD) "videotape" show. Most likely it would be a
    sitcom (multicam). Was there an early 2000s sitcom that looks decent in
    HD even today?

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Tue Mar 12 21:26:57 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 7:27 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 6:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    . . .

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD - >>>>>>> "...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB, >>>>>>> like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like >>>>>>> "Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't >>>>> until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and
    early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in
    Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.

    By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which
    faded after three years or so.

    I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it
    looked like crap.

    That's a method of television production that got worse.

    I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed, >>>> that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.

    "CSI"?

    CSI was filmed for 16:9, I think from the beginning.

    Various Panavision cameras, 35 mm film

    "Babes of Prey"?

    4:3

    Arricam ST and Arricam 435. Both are 35 mm film systems.

    I doubt either were "filmed", but both were HD.

    Both were filmed. Ian, you're not listening.

    Try not to be tedious, Adam. I was listening. I just don't know off-hand which shows were filmed and which were shot on tape.

    For instance, I didn't list "Smallville", as I am pretty sure that show
    was filmed.

    FYI, Smallville is shot on Super 35mm using Kodak Vision 5279, 5248, and
    5217 films, depending on what type of shot it is. This camera provides a resolution about 12X better than what 1080p can reproduce. https://www.avsforum.com › threads



    I can't think of a good (HD) "videotape" show. Most likely it would be a sitcom (multicam). Was there an early 2000s sitcom that looks decent in
    HD even today?




    --
    The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ian J. Ball on Wed Mar 13 04:39:59 2024
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 7:27 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 6:37 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:
    On 3/12/24 11:12 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
    Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote:

    . . .

    Because SD looks like s**t on an 4k TV.
    IOW, not just the "FX", but *everything*!!

    I would have figured by 2002 that most everything was filming in HD - >>>>>>>"...Jules Verne" had done so 3 years prior, and even shows on The WB, >>>>>>>like "Babes of Prey" from the year previous, were filmed in HD.

    But I guess it took until c.2005 before everything, even stuff like >>>>>>>"Tracker", was filmed in HD.

    Huh?

    IOW, even through 2005, a lot of stuff was still filmed in SD. It wasn't >>>>>until 2005 that even low-rent stuff like "Tracker" was filmed in HD.

    Filmed in SD? That's not how it works. That's not how any of it works.

    The premiere color Western television series for the late 1950s and >>>>early 1960s were filmed on 35 mm film, just like movies. Some were in >>>>Technicolor. Even b&w filmed tv series were filmed on 35 mm movie film.

    By the mid to late '60s, they were using cheaper Eastman Color, which >>>>faded after three years or so.

    I just looked up Tracker: Super 16 mm Arriflex system. That's why it >>>>looked like crap.

    That's a method of television production that got worse.

    I'm not sure what we count as the first tv series videoed, not filmed, >>>>that didn't look like crap. Not The Secret Life of Jules Verne.

    "CSI"?

    CSI was filmed for 16:9, I think from the beginning.

    Various Panavision cameras, 35 mm film

    "Babes of Prey"?

    4:3

    Arricam ST and Arricam 435. Both are 35 mm film systems.

    I doubt either were "filmed", but both were HD.

    Both were filmed. Ian, you're not listening.

    Try not to be tedious, Adam. I was listening. I just don't know off-hand >which shows were filmed and which were shot on tape.

    You could see with your own eyes. If the quality was better, then it was
    filmed on movie film. But I confirmed it with IMDb.

    For instance, I didn't list "Smallville", as I am pretty sure that show
    was filmed.

    35 mm on a variety of Kodak/Eastman cameras. Super 35 3-perf pulldown
    which saves film and results in an image of approximately 16:9.

    IMDb sez video "positive film print" for broadcast, 16:9 anamorphic NTSC
    for season 1, and HDTV for the remaining seasons.

    Perhaps "printing directly to broadcast-quality video" without first
    creating an intermediate print on positive film wasn't practical in the
    late '90s.

    . . .

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to ahk@chinet.com on Thu Mar 14 18:21:37 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 18:11:56 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
    <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

    To be fair, AT&T had just designated area codes in 1947 and the dialing
    plan N(0,1)X NNX-XXXX, which took decades to be adopted throughout the
    United States and outlying territories, Canada, Bermuda, and a portion
    of the Carribean (and a couple of other places). Even in big cities,
    there party lines and six-digit telephone numbers in the 1950s.

    My mother in law (Burlington, ON) had a party line well after her
    husband's passing in 2010. Can't remember the date that ended but it
    certainly extended well beyond the 50s.

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