• Biden's VA Undersecrertary Ban Iconic Times Square V-J Day Photo from V

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 05:10:07 2024
    Biden's Veterans Affairs Under Secretary RimaAnn O. Nelson hates men almost as much as she hates vets. She's now banning one of the most iconic photos in history from being displayed in VA buildings: the Pulitzer Prize-winning V-J Day Times Square photo of a sailor kissing a dental assistant, because the sailor did not obtain consent before kissing the woman.

    https://ibb.co/Rvw35Ps

    Meanwhile, VA hospitals and other facilities are falling apart and the
    veterans wait months or years for treatment. But it's good to see the Woke Police are patrolling the halls, tearing down any instance of wrongthink they come across.

    (I bet if you asked Google AI to show you this picture, the result would be
    two black men kissing.)

    The Biden Administration sucks to a shockingly high degree. What's next? Banning the picture of raising the flag over Iwo Jima due to insufficient diversity among the marines?

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    Memorandum
    Department of Veterans Affairs

    DATE: 02/29/2024

    FROM: Assistant Under Secretary for Health Operations (AUSHO) (15)

    SUBJ: Removal and Replacement of "V-J Day in Times Square" Photographs

    TO: Veterans Integrated Services Network (VISN) Directors (1DN1-23)

    1. PURPOSE: This memorandum requests the removal of the "V-J Day in Times Square" photograph from all Veterans Health Administration facilities in alignment with the Department of Veterans Affairs's commitment to maintaining
    a safe, respectful, and trauma-informed environment. This action is prescribed by the recognition that the photograph, which depicts a non-consensual act, is inconsistent with the VA's no-tolerance policy toward sexual harassment and assault, as outlined in VA Handbook 5079 and VHA Directive 5019.02(1).

    2. BACKGROUND: The "V-J Day in Times Square" photograph, captured by Alfred Eisenstaedt on August 14, 1945, is an iconic image from the 20th century. It depicts a U.S. Navy sailor kissing a woman dressed in white in Times Square, New York City, on the day Japan's surrender in World War II was announced, marking the war's end. This spontaneous moment was celebrated across the
    United States and the photograph quickly became a symbol of victory and the joyous end to the long and devastating conflict. The placement of this photograph in Veterans Affairs facilities was initially intended to celebrate and commemorate the end of World War II and the triumphant return of American soldiers. However, perspective on historical events and their representations evolve. Recent discussion have highlighted concerns about the non-consensual nature of the kiss, prompting debates on consent and the appropriateness of celebrating such images in today's environment, especially within institutions such as VA facilities, which are committed to upholding standards of creating
    a safe and respectful environment.

    3. DECISION: The Department of Justice's current definition of sexual assault includes any non-consensual sexual act or any act where the victim cannot consent. This definition is adhered to by the Department when applying our policies and guidance. By the VA's no-tolerance policy toward domestic violence, sexual harassment and assault as outlined in VA Handbook 5079 and
    VHA Directive 5019.02(1), the VA is committed to eliminating these behaviors
    in our community. Employees have expressed discomfort with the display of this photograph, suggesting that its presence could be construed as a tacit endorsement of the inappropriate behavior it depicts.

    4. To foster a more trauma-informed environment that promotes the
    psychological safety of our employees and the Veterans we serve, photographs depicting "V-J Day in Times Square" should be removed from VHA facilities.
    This action reflects our dedication to creating a respectful and safe
    workplace and is in keeping with our broader efforts to promote a culture of inclusivity and awareness.

    5. In celebrating the end of World War II and the valiant service of our veterans, facilities should seek affirmative photographs that capture the spirit of victory and peace without compromising the VA's commitment to a safe and respectful environment.

    6. Your cooperation in this matter is vital. Please ensure that these photographs are promptly removed and facilities explore suitable replacements that honor our history and veterans in a manner consistent with our values.

    7. Should you have any questions concerning this memorandum, please contact Leslie Jackson, Director of the Assault and Harassment Prevention Office.

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    UPDATE: Hours after the memo being leaked on X, in response to media inquiries and voluminous public outcry, the VA Secretary confirmed the memo was
    authentic and immediately rescinded it, saying he had not been aware of it and that the VA would not be banning any iconic American historical photos.

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  • From anim8rfsk@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Mar 5 22:49:29 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Biden's Veterans Affairs Under Secretary RimaAnn O. Nelson hates men almost as
    much as she hates vets.

    At least we fired the bitch.



    She's now banning one of the most iconic photos in
    history from being displayed in VA buildings: the Pulitzer Prize-winning
    V-J
    Day Times Square photo of a sailor kissing a dental assistant, because
    the
    sailor did not obtain consent before kissing the woman.

    https://ibb.co/Rvw35Ps

    Meanwhile, VA hospitals and other facilities are falling apart and the
    veterans wait months or years for treatment. But it's good to see the Woke Police are patrolling the halls, tearing down any instance of wrongthink
    they
    come across.

    (I bet if you asked Google AI to show you this picture, the result would be
    two black men kissing.)

    The Biden Administration sucks to a shockingly high degree. What's next?
    Banning the picture of raising the flag over Iwo Jima due to insufficient diversity among the marines?

    ---------------------------------------------
    Memorandum
    Department of Veterans Affairs

    DATE: 02/29/2024

    FROM: Assistant Under Secretary for Health Operations (AUSHO) (15)

    SUBJ: Removal and Replacement of "V-J Day in Times Square" Photographs

    TO: Veterans Integrated Services Network (VISN) Directors (1DN1-23)

    1. PURPOSE: This memorandum requests the removal of the "V-J Day in Times
    Square" photograph from all Veterans Health Administration facilities in alignment with the Department of Veterans Affairs's commitment to
    maintaining
    a safe, respectful, and trauma-informed environment. This action is
    prescribed
    by the recognition that the photograph, which depicts a non-consensual act,
    is
    inconsistent with the VA's no-tolerance policy toward sexual harassment and assault, as outlined in VA Handbook 5079 and VHA Directive 5019.02(1).

    2. BACKGROUND: The "V-J Day in Times Square" photograph, captured by Alfred
    Eisenstaedt on August 14, 1945, is an iconic image from the 20th century.
    It
    depicts a U.S. Navy sailor kissing a woman dressed in white in Times
    Square,
    New York City, on the day Japan's surrender in World War II was announced, marking the war's end. This spontaneous moment was celebrated across the
    United States and the photograph quickly became a symbol of victory and the joyous end to the long and devastating conflict. The placement of this photograph in Veterans Affairs facilities was initially intended to
    celebrate
    and commemorate the end of World War II and the triumphant return of
    American
    soldiers. However, perspective on historical events and their
    representations
    evolve. Recent discussion have highlighted concerns about the
    non-consensual
    nature of the kiss, prompting debates on consent and the
    appropriateness of
    celebrating such images in today's environment, especially within
    institutions
    such as VA facilities, which are committed to upholding standards of
    creating
    a safe and respectful environment.

    3. DECISION: The Department of Justice's current definition of sexual assault
    includes any non-consensual sexual act or any act where the victim cannot consent. This definition is adhered to by the Department when applying our policies and guidance. By the VA's no-tolerance policy toward domestic violence, sexual harassment and assault as outlined in VA Handbook 5079 and
    VHA Directive 5019.02(1), the VA is committed to eliminating these
    behaviors
    in our community. Employees have expressed discomfort with the
    display of this
    photograph, suggesting that its presence could be construed as a tacit endorsement of the inappropriate behavior it depicts.

    4. To foster a more trauma-informed environment that promotes the
    psychological safety of our employees and the Veterans we serve,
    photographs
    depicting "V-J Day in Times Square" should be removed from VHA
    facilities.
    This action reflects our dedication to creating a respectful and safe
    workplace and is in keeping with our broader efforts to promote a culture
    of
    inclusivity and awareness.

    5. In celebrating the end of World War II and the valiant service of our
    veterans, facilities should seek affirmative photographs that capture the spirit of victory and peace without compromising the VA's commitment to a
    safe
    and respectful environment.

    6. Your cooperation in this matter is vital. Please ensure that these
    photographs are promptly removed and facilities explore suitable
    replacements
    that honor our history and veterans in a manner consistent with our values.

    7. Should you have any questions concerning this memorandum, please contact
    Leslie Jackson, Director of the Assault and Harassment Prevention Office.

    ---------------------------------------------

    UPDATE: Hours after the memo being leaked on X, in response to media inquiries
    and voluminous public outcry, the VA Secretary confirmed the memo was
    authentic and immediately rescinded it, saying he had not been aware of it
    and
    that the VA would not be banning any iconic American historical photos.






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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Mar 6 04:53:32 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    The Biden Administration sucks to a shockingly high degree. What's next? >Banning the picture of raising the flag over Iwo Jima due to insufficient >diversity among the marines?

    I think that already happened.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Wed Mar 6 10:27:14 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 04:53:32 -0500
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    The Biden Administration sucks to a shockingly high degree. What's
    next? Banning the picture of raising the flag over Iwo Jima due to >insufficient diversity among the marines?

    I think that already happened.

    The Soviets had a comparable photo to the Iwo Jima flag raising; it
    featured several Red Army soldiers raising the Soviet flag on the
    Reichstag in Berlin. They had to retouch it because the photo showed
    one of the soldiers wearing several wristwatches, apparently stolen
    from German soldiers.

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    Let's go Brandon!




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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Wed Mar 6 22:53:49 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:27:14 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    The Soviets had a comparable photo to the Iwo Jima flag raising; it
    featured several Red Army soldiers raising the Soviet flag on the
    Reichstag in Berlin. They had to retouch it because the photo showed
    one of the soldiers wearing several wristwatches, apparently stolen
    from German soldiers.

    Given how common watches were in the Red Army (e.g. not very) how
    common would it be to have two of them acquired other than by looting?
    (Which we all know the Red Army never ever did - Red Army soldiers
    didn't rape either notwithstanding 2 million women in the Soviet zone
    who said they did)

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