• [OT] The decline of the universities continues

    From Rhino@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 3 21:17:50 2024
    The University of the Philippines has created an elective course about
    Taylor Swift.

    https://kitchener.citynews.ca/video/2024/03/01/university-offering-taylor-swift-course/

    Courses of minimal academic merit are, of course, a well-established
    "feature" of university and college curricula with many people
    completing degrees in such subjects as Black Studies, Gay Studies, Folk Dancing, and any number of others. (Most of those graduates will be
    paying for those degrees for decades a bit at a time from their
    earnings as a Starbucks barrista or burger flipper at McDonald's.)
    Let's just call this one more nail in the coffin....

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick
    to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll
    wager!

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to no_offline_contact@example.com on Mon Mar 4 19:36:49 2024
    On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 21:17:50 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    The University of the Philippines has created an elective course about
    Taylor Swift.

    https://kitchener.citynews.ca/video/2024/03/01/university-offering-taylor-swift-course/

    Courses of minimal academic merit are, of course, a well-established >"feature" of university and college curricula with many people
    completing degrees in such subjects as Black Studies, Gay Studies, Folk >Dancing, and any number of others. (Most of those graduates will be
    paying for those degrees for decades a bit at a time from their
    earnings as a Starbucks barrista or burger flipper at McDonald's.)
    Let's just call this one more nail in the coffin....

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick
    to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll >wager!

    A lot of people look askance at university departments with "Studies"
    in their name.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Mon Mar 4 20:42:49 2024
    On 3/4/2024 7:36 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 21:17:50 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    The University of the Philippines has created an elective course about
    Taylor Swift.

    https://kitchener.citynews.ca/video/2024/03/01/university-offering-taylor-swift-course/

    Courses of minimal academic merit are, of course, a well-established
    "feature" of university and college curricula with many people
    completing degrees in such subjects as Black Studies, Gay Studies, Folk
    Dancing, and any number of others. (Most of those graduates will be
    paying for those degrees for decades a bit at a time from their
    earnings as a Starbucks barrista or burger flipper at McDonald's.)
    Let's just call this one more nail in the coffin....

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick
    to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll
    wager!

    A lot of people look askance at university departments with "Studies"
    in their name.

    Should they ALL have "Studies" in their names? Aren't they there for
    the students to study?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Tue Mar 5 23:07:31 2024
    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:42:49 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick
    to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll
    wager!

    A lot of people look askance at university departments with "Studies"
    in their name.

    Should they ALL have "Studies" in their names? Aren't they there for
    the students to study?

    I don't see why - I took mostly history (a personal favorite),
    mathematics, chemistry and physics not things like Womens' Studies,
    Black Studies etc where there is typically a "party line" and god help
    the student who tries to divert from it.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 6 03:30:30 2024
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:07:31 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:42:49 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick
    to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll >>>> wager!

    A lot of people look askance at university departments with "Studies"
    in their name.

    Should they ALL have "Studies" in their names? Aren't they there for
    the students to study?

    I don't see why - I took mostly history (a personal favorite),
    mathematics, chemistry and physics not things like Womens' Studies,
    Black Studies etc where there is typically a "party line" and god help
    the student who tries to divert from it.

    Those 'Studies' classes in things like that didn't even exist at the
    schools I went to. Mostly because instead of a general University I
    went to schools focused on technology. So the closest we got to that
    was with the Industrial Management school. Otherwise it was Computers,
    Physics, Chemistry, Electrical Engineering, Aerospace and such. Not
    much room for things like Women's Studies or Blacks Studies.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to shawn on Wed Mar 6 07:52:21 2024
    On 3/6/2024 12:30 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:07:31 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:42:49 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick >>>>> to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll >>>>> wager!

    A lot of people look askance at university departments with "Studies"
    in their name.

    Should they ALL have "Studies" in their names? Aren't they there for
    the students to study?

    I don't see why - I took mostly history (a personal favorite),
    mathematics, chemistry and physics not things like Womens' Studies,
    Black Studies etc where there is typically a "party line" and god help
    the student who tries to divert from it.

    Those 'Studies' classes in things like that didn't even exist at the
    schools I went to. Mostly because instead of a general University I
    went to schools focused on technology. So the closest we got to that
    was with the Industrial Management school. Otherwise it was Computers, Physics, Chemistry, Electrical Engineering, Aerospace and such. Not
    much room for things like Women's Studies or Blacks Studies.

    But one still studies those subjects, so why are only "social" sciences
    termed "studies"?

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Wed Mar 6 13:06:54 2024
    On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 07:52:21 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 3/6/2024 12:30 AM, shawn wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 23:07:31 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:42:49 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    When are the universities going to stop teaching this fluff and stick >>>>>> to training serious people for serious careers? Not any time soon, I'll >>>>>> wager!

    A lot of people look askance at university departments with "Studies" >>>>> in their name.

    Should they ALL have "Studies" in their names? Aren't they there for
    the students to study?

    I don't see why - I took mostly history (a personal favorite),
    mathematics, chemistry and physics not things like Womens' Studies,
    Black Studies etc where there is typically a "party line" and god help
    the student who tries to divert from it.

    Those 'Studies' classes in things like that didn't even exist at the
    schools I went to. Mostly because instead of a general University I
    went to schools focused on technology. So the closest we got to that
    was with the Industrial Management school. Otherwise it was Computers,
    Physics, Chemistry, Electrical Engineering, Aerospace and such. Not
    much room for things like Women's Studies or Blacks Studies.

    But one still studies those subjects, so why are only "social" sciences >termed "studies"?

    Because there's more rigor assumed in the hard sciences while the
    social sciences are merely studies.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Wed Mar 6 22:49:58 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 03:30:30 -0500, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Those 'Studies' classes in things like that didn't even exist at the
    schools I went to. Mostly because instead of a general University I
    went to schools focused on technology. So the closest we got to that
    was with the Industrial Management school. Otherwise it was Computers, >Physics, Chemistry, Electrical Engineering, Aerospace and such. Not
    much room for things like Women's Studies or Blacks Studies.

    There are plenty of other "Studies" departments besides Women's
    Studies and Black Studies - please don't think I'm picking on them -
    I'm dissing ALL departments which have "Studies" in their name. I'm
    not that fond of non-Science departments (like PoliSci) with "Science"
    in their name either since the "Science" in "Political Science" is
    purely in the author's brain though they do often turn up interesting
    things statistically and statistics is at least part of mathematics
    which IS an honest-to-gawd member of Science faculties worldwide.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Wed Mar 6 22:51:17 2024
    On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:06:54 -0500, shawn
    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    Because there's more rigor assumed in the hard sciences while the
    social sciences are merely studies.

    Also that many of the papers published in the "social sciences"
    journals are opinion pieces - with any form of peer review wholly
    imaginary.

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