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An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every form of music in existence � with the exception of classical music � from black
people.

�The Daily Show� correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic,
responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce�s upcoming country album � after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music � was a step outside her proscribed lane.

WATCH:

MSNBC guest: "If White people hated cultural appropriation, then
they shouldn't have created music. Because every form of music in
America was stolen from Black people." pic.twitter.com/wysQqDTLaf

� TheBlaze (@theblaze) February 19, 2024

The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about Beyonce�s foray into country were just proving that people on the Right actually were
not in favor of �cultural appropriation.�

�But black people have always been a part of folk and country music,� he continued, turning the question over to Sloan. �You want to weigh in on
that?�

�If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn�t have
created music,� Sloan said. �Because every form of music in America was
stolen from black people: rock�n�roll, jazz, blues, country, pop music. So if you have a problem with cultural appropriation � y�all created classical
music, y�all could have stuck with that ��

�Roll the piano into this concert,� Sloan continued in mocking tones,
claiming that white people � and conservatives � only had an issue with cultural appropriation when the thing being appropriated was something they liked or wanted to be associated with.

�As dumb as this is, let�s just say she�s right,� one person responded via X. �Fine. We�ll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation.�

As dumb as this is, let�s just say she�s right.

Fine. We�ll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up
indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled
transportation. https://t.co/9rqnNdxkth

� Tandy (@dantypo) February 20, 2024

�Here�s the issue with this. They take something that is an irrefutable fact (the foundations of American popular music comes from Black Americans) and
then mix it with some bulls*** (every form of music in America was �stolen�).
I can�t believe I have to say this in 2024 but ITS NOT A BAD THING THAT WHITE PEOPLE CONSUME OUR CONTENT,� Darvio Morrow commented.

�Yes there have been issues with the music industry robbing Black artists, obscenely so during the Rock and Roll era. And I�ve already laid out how the INDUSTRY stole rock music from Black folks. But you can�t blame the whole country for the practices of the entertainment industry. That was the
industry, not the people,� he continued. �The audience never stopped loving
our music. I view our immense contributions to American popular music and culture as a point of pride. The number one genre of music in the country
TODAY is Black music (Hip-Hop/R&B). To take something we should celebrate and bash the country with it is so stupid and counterproductive.�

Here�s the issue with this. They take something that is an
irrefutable fact (the foundations of American popular music comes
from Black Americans) and then mix it with some bullsh*t (every form
of music in America was �stolen�). I can�t believe I have to say this
in 2024 but ITS�
https://t.co/MSt3No1xKC

� Darvio Morrow (@DTheKingpin) February 20, 2024

Despite the furor, Beyonce�s �Texas Hold �Em� � a single released during the Super Bowl alongside �16 Carriages,� both from her upcoming album � has
already rocketed to the top of the Billboard Country chart, making the Destiny�s Child alum the first black woman to have a number 1 single on the country chart.

As for the roots of American country music? According to John McEuen of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it camae from everywhere: �Country music wasn�t
called that yet, but it was music of the country. It was a combination of the Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into the world; the Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in Texas; the Germans bringing over the �oom-pah� of polka music, all converging.�

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On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every form of music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met black people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are
claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really done by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy.

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

THE DAILY SHOW correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic,
responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce’s upcoming country album-- after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music-- was a step outside her proscribed lane.

The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about Beyonce's

foray into country were just proving that people on the Right actually were not in favor of "cultural appropriation".

No, it's called applying your own stupid rules against you and watching the resulting leaps of illogic y'all engage in to try to justify the hypocrisy.

White people can't braid their hair because that's black culture. (Ignoring
the fact that the Norse people braided their hair long before they ever encountered blacks.)

<Beyonce dies hair blonde>

But that's "different"(TM)!

"If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn't have created music," Sloan said.

Wait... I thought you said whites *didn't* create any kind of music. Now
you're saying they did?

Because every form of music in America was stolen from black people: rock'n'roll, jazz, blues,
country, pop music.

Film music? Did blacks invent that, too?

Probably, because I've been told they really invented both the camera and film itself, so of course film music was theirs, too. Natch.

How about K-Pop? Did blacks secretly invent Korean music also?

And Latin music? Did stealth blacks travel to South America and invent that
for them, too?

So if you have a problem with cultural appropriation-- y'all created classical
music, y’all could have stuck with that …”

When did white people ever have a problem with cultural appropriation? That entire concept was invented by 'progressive' leftist minorities to give them somewhere else to find raaaaciiism bitch about it.

"Roll the piano into this concert," Sloan continued in mocking tones, claiming that white people-- and conservatives-- only had an issue with cultural appropriation when the thing being appropriated was something they liked or wanted to be associated with.

"As dumb as this is, let's just say she's right," one person responded via X.

"Fine. We'll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation."

Not to mention basketball. A game invented by white people for white people.

The people who scream about 'cultural appropriation' really hate it when you throw that one in their face. They have no answer for it and they realize that if they're suggesting white people stop using black culture, then there's no way they can logically justify blacks playing basketball. The most common
dodge is that they'll say it's okay when they appropriate white culture
because reparations.

As for the roots of American country music? According to John McEuen of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it came from everywhere: "Country music wasn't
called that yet, but it was music of the country. It was a combination of the

Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into the world; the Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in Texas; the Germans bringing over the 'oom-pah' of polka music, all converging."

Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also invented the German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros and they invented the Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything, dontcha know! (And even if
they didn't, we have to pretend they did or we're raaaaciiist because
slavery.)

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Ubiquitous wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had
stolen every form of music in existence � with the
exception of classical music � from black people.

�The Daily Show� correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on
the topic, responding to critics who had suggested
Beyonce�s upcoming country album � after a lengthy career
in hip hop and pop music � was a step outside her
proscribed lane.

WATCH:

MSNBC guest: "If White people hated cultural
appropriation, then they shouldn't have created music.
Because every form of music in America was stolen from
Black people." pic.twitter.com/wysQqDTLaf

� TheBlaze (@theblaze) February 19, 2024

The host of the show joked that the conservatives
complaining about Beyonce�s foray into country were just
proving that people on the Right actually were not in
favor of �cultural appropriation.�

�But black people have always been a part of folk and
country music,� he continued, turning the question over to
Sloan. �You want to weigh in on that?�

�If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they
shouldn�t have created music,� Sloan said. �Because every
form of music in America was stolen from black people:
rock�n�roll, jazz, blues, country, pop music. So if you
have a problem with cultural appropriation � y�all created
classical music, y�all could have stuck with that ��

�Roll the piano into this concert,� Sloan continued in
mocking tones, claiming that white people � and
conservatives � only had an issue with cultural
appropriation when the thing being appropriated was
something they liked or wanted to be associated with.

�As dumb as this is, let�s just say she�s right,� one
person responded via X. �Fine. We�ll give up performing
rock & roll and she can give up indoor plumbing, the
printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation.�

As dumb as this is, let�s just say she�s right.

Fine. We�ll give up performing rock & roll and she can
give up indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones,
and wheeled transportation. https://t.co/9rqnNdxkth

� Tandy (@dantypo) February 20, 2024

�Here�s the issue with this. They take something that is
an irrefutable fact (the foundations of American popular
music comes from Black Americans) and then mix it with
some bulls*** (every form of music in America was
�stolen�). I can�t believe I have to say this in 2024 but
ITS NOT A BAD THING THAT WHITE PEOPLE CONSUME OUR
CONTENT,� Darvio Morrow commented.

�Yes there have been issues with the music industry
robbing Black artists, obscenely so during the Rock and
Roll era. And I�ve already laid out how the INDUSTRY stole
rock music from Black folks. But you can�t blame the whole
country for the practices of the entertainment industry.
That was the industry, not the people,� he continued. �The
audience never stopped loving our music. I view our
immense contributions to American popular music and
culture as a point of pride. The number one genre of music
in the country TODAY is Black music (Hip-Hop/R&B). To take
something we should celebrate and bash the country with it
is so stupid and counterproductive.�

Here�s the issue with this. They take something that is an
irrefutable fact (the foundations of American popular
music comes from Black Americans) and then mix it with
some bullsh*t (every form of music in America was
�stolen�). I can�t believe I have to say this in 2024 but
ITS� https://t.co/MSt3No1xKC

� Darvio Morrow (@DTheKingpin) February 20, 2024

Despite the furor, Beyonce�s �Texas Hold �Em� � a single
released during the Super Bowl alongside �16 Carriages,�
both from her upcoming album � has already rocketed to the
top of the Billboard Country chart, making the Destiny�s
Child alum the first black woman to have a number 1 single
on the country chart.

As for the roots of American country music? According to
John McEuen of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it camae from
everywhere: �Country music wasn�t called that yet, but it
was music of the country. It was a combination of the
Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into
the world; the Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in
Texas; the Germans bringing over the �oom-pah� of polka
music, all converging.�

Classical music has been appropriated too.

Since last year, the classical music channel on SiriusXM
has been making a point of playing music from a limited
list of black classical-style composers, especially
Florence Price who hits the daily double with being
both black and female. Another frequent black composer
heard is William Grant Sill. And occasionally Scott
Joplin (who would be more appropriate on one of the
several Jazz channels).

Oh, and they've also moved the Met Opera channel to
streaming only, but still feature an opera on the
Symphony Hall channel on Saturday afternoons. Instead
of the usual Wagner, last week's opera segment featured
an opera titled "The Life of Malcolm X."

Good thing I've got plenty of music on CDs and vinyl.

Nyssa, who wonders if this is a flash in the pan or
a permanent trend

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every form of >> music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black
people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really
done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in the basement.

THE DAILY SHOW correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic,
responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce’s upcoming country album-- >> after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music-- was a step outside her
proscribed lane.

The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about Beyonce's

foray into country were just proving that people on the Right actually were >> not in favor of "cultural appropriation".

No, it's called applying your own stupid rules against you and watching the

resulting leaps of illogic y'all engage in to try to justify the hypocrisy.

White people can't braid their hair because that's black culture. (Ignoring

the fact that the Norse people braided their hair long before they ever encountered blacks.)

<Beyonce dies hair blonde>

But that's "different"(TM)!

"If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn't have
created music," Sloan said.

Wait... I thought you said whites *didn't* create any kind of music. Now

you're saying they did?

Because every form of music in America was stolen from black people:

rock'n'roll, jazz, blues,

country, pop music.

Film music? Did blacks invent that, too?

Probably, because I've been told they really invented both the camera and film

itself, so of course film music was theirs, too. Natch.

How about K-Pop? Did blacks secretly invent Korean music also?

And Latin music? Did stealth blacks travel to South America and invent that

for them, too?

So if you have a problem with cultural appropriation-- y'all created

classical

music, y’all could have stuck with that …”

When did white people ever have a problem with cultural appropriation? That

entire concept was invented by 'progressive' leftist minorities to give
them
somewhere else to find raaaaciiism bitch about it.

"Roll the piano into this concert," Sloan continued in mocking tones,
claiming that white people-- and conservatives-- only had an issue with
cultural appropriation when the thing being appropriated was something they >> liked or wanted to be associated with.

"As dumb as this is, let's just say she's right," one person responded via X.

"Fine. We'll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up indoor
plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation."

Not to mention basketball. A game invented by white people for white people.

The people who scream about 'cultural appropriation' really hate it when you

throw that one in their face. They have no answer for it and they realize
that
if they're suggesting white people stop using black culture, then there's
no
way they can logically justify blacks playing basketball. The most
common
dodge is that they'll say it's okay when they appropriate white
culture
because reparations.

As for the roots of American country music? According to John McEuen of The >> Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it came from everywhere: "Country music wasn't
called that yet, but it was music of the country. It was a combination of the

Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into the world; the
Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in Texas; the Germans bringing over the >> 'oom-pah' of polka music, all converging."

Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also invented the

German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros and they invented
the
Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything, dontcha know! (And even if
they didn't, we have to pretend they did or we're raaaaciiist because
slavery.)






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On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote: >>

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every form of
music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black >>> people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:00:23 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also invented the
German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros and they invented >the Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything, dontcha know! (And even if >they didn't, we have to pretend they did or we're raaaaciiist because >slavery.)

While I know you're joking this is one I don't feel the least guilty
on this ludicrous claim since (a) it's not at all true and (b) even if
it were it wasn't part of things in any part of the United States (or
Britain for that matter) where any of my forebears lived unless you
count indentured servitude for 5 years to pay for the cost of their
passage to America which several of my ancestors were.

So should I be claiming reparations from Barack Obama? (none of whose
black ancestors were Americans though some of his white ancestors had
been slave holders)

Or should I DEMAND reparations because some of my other ancestors were
Royal Navy commissioned officers who fought the slave trade? (Some of
them died in their service during the period of the battle against the
slave trade though I haven't determined where they were fighting at
the time of their deaths - and in the eyes of some of these black
'activists' that should be good enough without further evidence)

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On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 03:06:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every form of
music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black >>>> people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really
done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not kidding. They actually >seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the car, the computer, >toilets-- there's nothing they didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

This Wiki page has photos of all the Apollo astronauts - the ones that
walked on the Moon as well as the ones that didn't. Which is the black
one? (It sure as hell isn't Neil Armstrong!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts

As for the human "computers" - they definitely contributed (and were
NOT all black) but anybody who claims they were the entire NASA
computing effort? - well I want some of what they've been smoking!

But for sure it wasn't a black who invented basketball though I'd bet
there are plenty who wish that one had!

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On 2024-02-22 06:09:46 +0000, The Horny Goat said:

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 17:00:23 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also invented the >> German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros and they invented >> the Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything, dontcha know! (And even if
they didn't, we have to pretend they did or we're raaaaciiist because
slavery.)

While I know you're joking this is one I don't feel the least guilty
on this ludicrous claim since (a) it's not at all true and (b) even if
it were it wasn't part of things in any part of the United States (or
Britain for that matter) where any of my forebears lived unless you
count indentured servitude for 5 years to pay for the cost of their
passage to America which several of my ancestors were.

So should I be claiming reparations from Barack Obama? (none of whose
black ancestors were Americans though some of his white ancestors had
been slave holders)

Or should I DEMAND reparations because some of my other ancestors were
Royal Navy commissioned officers who fought the slave trade? (Some of
them died in their service during the period of the battle against the
slave trade though I haven't determined where they were fighting at
the time of their deaths - and in the eyes of some of these black
'activists' that should be good enough without further evidence)

The first humans evolved in north Africa, so technically everyone on
the planet (past, present, and future) is actually African. :-)

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BTR1701 wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk"
<anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had
stolen every form of music in existence-- with the
exception of classical music-- from black people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music
before they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media
where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in
history were really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black
woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work
of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black
women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not
kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the
car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they didn't
invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

But, but, but that *can't* be true! I have it on good
authority (Lt. Checkov) that everything was inwented
in Russia!

Nyssa, who remembers her (Star Trek) history

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Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk"
<anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had
stolen every form of music in existence-- with the
exception of classical music-- from black people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music
before they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media
where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in
history were really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black
woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work
of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black
women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not
kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the
car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they didn't
invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

But, but, but that *can't* be true! I have it on good
authority (Lt. Checkov) that everything was inwented
in Russia!

Nyssa, who remembers her (Star Trek) history

What, you’ve never heard of a Black Russian?

--
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In article <ur7o37$3u8ul$1@dont-email.me>, Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

"anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had
stolen every form of music in existence-- with the
exception of classical music-- from black people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music
before they met black people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media
where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in
history were really done by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black
woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work
of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black
women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not
kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the
car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they didn't
invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

But, but, but that *can't* be true! I have it on good
authority (Lt. Checkov) that everything was inwented
in Russia!

Did you mean Captain Chekov?

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Ubiquitous wrote:

In article <ur7o37$3u8ul$1@dont-email.me>,
Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

"anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people
had stolen every form of music in existence-- with
the exception of classical music-- from black
people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had
music before they met black people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media
where blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in
history were really done by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black
woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the
work of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black
women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not
kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything--
the car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they
didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

But, but, but that *can't* be true! I have it on good
authority (Lt. Checkov) that everything was inwented
in Russia!

Did you mean Captain Chekov?

Eventually.

Nyssa, who remembers that Checkov started out as an
ensign, but went through the ranks more slowly than
other characters (and ended up assigned to Babylon 5)

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On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:11 PM PST, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 03:06:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every >>>>> form of
music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black >>>>> people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met >>>> black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are >>> claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really >>> done

by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy. >>>

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not kidding. They
actually
seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the car, the computer, >> toilets-- there's nothing they didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

This Wiki page has photos of all the Apollo astronauts - the ones that
walked on the Moon as well as the ones that didn't. Which is the black
one? (It sure as hell isn't Neil Armstrong!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts

As for the human "computers" - they definitely contributed (and were
NOT all black) but anybody who claims they were the entire NASA
computing effort? - well I want some of what they've been smoking!

But for sure it wasn't a black who invented basketball though I'd bet
there are plenty who wish that one had!

One of the common themes in posts all over the Twitters and the Facebook is "Africa built Europe!" And "Africa built America!"

If you really want to enrage them, just respond, "Okay, so when is Africa
going to get around to building Africa?"

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:11 PM PST, "The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 03:06:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >>>

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every >>>>> form of
music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black >>>>>> people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met >>>> black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are >>>> claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really >>>> done

by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy. >>>>

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not kidding. They

actually

seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the car, the computer,
toilets-- there's nothing they didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

This Wiki page has photos of all the Apollo astronauts - the ones that
walked on the Moon as well as the ones that didn't. Which is the black
one? (It sure as hell isn't Neil Armstrong!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts

As for the human "computers" - they definitely contributed (and were
NOT all black) but anybody who claims they were the entire NASA
computing effort? - well I want some of what they've been smoking!

But for sure it wasn't a black who invented basketball though I'd bet
there are plenty who wish that one had!

One of the common themes in posts all over the Twitters and the Facebook is

"Africa built Europe!" And "Africa built America!"

If you really want to enrage them, just respond, "Okay, so when is Africa

going to get around to building Africa?"


lol

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In article <ur8k5q$4fd2$3@dont-email.me>, Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net wrote:

Ubiquitous wrote:

Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

"anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people
had stolen every form of music in existence-- with
the exception of classical music-- from black
people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had
music before they met black people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media
where blacks are claiming every cultural and scientific
achievement in history were really done by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black
woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the
work of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

He was from India or Packistan.

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black
women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not
kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything--
the car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they
didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449

But, but, but that *can't* be true! I have it on good
authority (Lt. Checkov) that everything was inwented
in Russia!

Did you mean Captain Chekov?

Eventually.

Nyssa, who remembers that Checkov started out as an
ensign, but went through the ranks more slowly than
other characters (and ended up assigned to Babylon 5)

That was an obscure refering to a REAL GHOSTBUSTERS ep
in which the team went to a Soviet Space station and
the cosmonaughts talked about watching Star Trek and
how Captain Chekov saved the ship. When asked, they
said he's the captain on Soviet TV. :-)

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Ubiquitous wrote:

In article <ur8k5q$4fd2$3@dont-email.me>,
Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net wrote:

Ubiquitous wrote:

Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net wrote:

BTR1701 wrote:

"anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

"Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people
had stolen every form of music in existence-- with
the exception of classical music-- from black
people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had
music before they met black people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social
media where blacks are claiming every cultural and
scientific achievement in history were really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black
woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the
work of a black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

He was from India or Packistan.

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black
women in the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon.
(Not kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything--
the car, the computer, toilets-- there's nothing they
didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449

But, but, but that *can't* be true! I have it on good
authority (Lt. Checkov) that everything was inwented
in Russia!

Did you mean Captain Chekov?

Eventually.

Nyssa, who remembers that Checkov started out as an
ensign, but went through the ranks more slowly than
other characters (and ended up assigned to Babylon 5)

That was an obscure refering to a REAL GHOSTBUSTERS ep
in which the team went to a Soviet Space station and
the cosmonaughts talked about watching Star Trek and
how Captain Chekov saved the ship. When asked, they
said he's the captain on Soviet TV. :-)

Okay, you whooshed me on that one. I've never seen
Ghostbusters.

Good joke though.

Nyssa, who appreciates a good joke even when it has
to be explained

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On 2/21/24 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every form of >> music in existence-- with the exception of classical music-- from black
people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they met black people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black guy.

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

White supremacist says what?

THE DAILY SHOW correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic,
responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce’s upcoming country album-- >> after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music-- was a step outside her
proscribed lane.

The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about Beyonce's

foray into country were just proving that people on the Right actually were >> not in favor of "cultural appropriation".

No, it's called applying your own stupid rules against you and watching the resulting leaps of illogic y'all engage in to try to justify the hypocrisy.

White people can't braid their hair because that's black culture. (Ignoring the fact that the Norse people braided their hair long before they ever encountered blacks.)

<Beyonce dies hair blonde>

But that's "different"(TM)!

"If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn't have
created music," Sloan said.

Wait... I thought you said whites *didn't* create any kind of music. Now you're saying they did?

Because every form of music in America was stolen from black people:
rock'n'roll, jazz, blues,
country, pop music.

Film music? Did blacks invent that, too?

Probably, because I've been told they really invented both the camera and film
itself, so of course film music was theirs, too. Natch.

How about K-Pop? Did blacks secretly invent Korean music also?

And Latin music? Did stealth blacks travel to South America and invent that for them, too?

So if you have a problem with cultural appropriation-- y'all created
classical
music, y’all could have stuck with that …”

When did white people ever have a problem with cultural appropriation? That entire concept was invented by 'progressive' leftist minorities to give them somewhere else to find raaaaciiism bitch about it.

"Roll the piano into this concert," Sloan continued in mocking tones,
claiming that white people-- and conservatives-- only had an issue with
cultural appropriation when the thing being appropriated was something they >> liked or wanted to be associated with.

"As dumb as this is, let's just say she's right," one person responded via X.

"Fine. We'll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up indoor
plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation."

Not to mention basketball. A game invented by white people for white people.

The people who scream about 'cultural appropriation' really hate it when you throw that one in their face. They have no answer for it and they realize that
if they're suggesting white people stop using black culture, then there's no way they can logically justify blacks playing basketball. The most common dodge is that they'll say it's okay when they appropriate white culture because reparations.

As for the roots of American country music? According to John McEuen of The >> Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it came from everywhere: "Country music wasn't
called that yet, but it was music of the country. It was a combination of the

Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into the world; the
Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in Texas; the Germans bringing over the >> 'oom-pah' of polka music, all converging."

Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also invented the German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros and they invented the
Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything, dontcha know! (And even if they didn't, we have to pretend they did or we're raaaaciiist because slavery.)

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 21:53:16 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every
form of music in existence-- with the exception of classical
music-- from black people.

I'm surprised they didn't claim that Bach, Beethoven, Mozart and the
rest were actually partially black or married to very creative black
women or whatever. Then again, I remember that 30 years ago, the gays
claiming that Beethoven was gay because he had written some love letters
to someone identified only as "immortal beloved"; they insisted that
this person was surely male making both of them gay. (Wikipedia,
however, lists 4 possible identities for "immortal beloved", all of
them female.)

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before they
met black people. Riiigghht.

Ditto for Asians. The Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Indians, etc. had no
music until blacks visited and showed them how to do music.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where blacks are claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were
really done by black people.

Just like the gays were doing 30 years back.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

30 years ago, there were claims that Shakespeare was actually gay.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a black
guy.

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

The proof for any of these claims is, predictably, seriously sketchy to outright non-existent. Can you say "wishful thinking"?

THE DAILY SHOW correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic, responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce’s upcoming country album-- after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music-- was a
step outside her proscribed lane.

The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about Beyonce's

foray into country were just proving that people on the Right
actually were not in favor of "cultural appropriation".

No, it's called applying your own stupid rules against you and
watching the resulting leaps of illogic y'all engage in to try to
justify the hypocrisy.

White people can't braid their hair because that's black culture.
(Ignoring the fact that the Norse people braided their hair long
before they ever encountered blacks.)

<Beyonce dies hair blonde>

But that's "different"(TM)!

"If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn't
have created music," Sloan said.

Wait... I thought you said whites *didn't* create any kind of music.
Now you're saying they did?

Because every form of music in America was stolen from black people: rock'n'roll, jazz, blues,
country, pop music.

Film music? Did blacks invent that, too?

Probably, because I've been told they really invented both the camera
and film itself, so of course film music was theirs, too. Natch.

The (still) camera was invented by a French man named Nicephore Niepce
who looks decidedly white in this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nic%C3%A9phore_Ni%C3%A9pce

The movie camera was invented by Thomas Edison, who is distinctly white
in every picture I've ever seen.

How about K-Pop? Did blacks secretly invent Korean music also?

And Latin music? Did stealth blacks travel to South America and
invent that for them, too?

They didn't need to travel to Latin America by stealth; they were
already there as slaves.

So if you have a problem with cultural appropriation-- y'all created classical
music, y’all could have stuck with that …”

When did white people ever have a problem with cultural
appropriation? That entire concept was invented by 'progressive'
leftist minorities to give them somewhere else to find raaaaciiism
bitch about it.

"Roll the piano into this concert," Sloan continued in mocking
tones, claiming that white people-- and conservatives-- only had an
issue with cultural appropriation when the thing being appropriated
was something they liked or wanted to be associated with.

"As dumb as this is, let's just say she's right," one person
responded via X.

"Fine. We'll give up performing rock & roll and she can give up
indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation."

Not to mention basketball. A game invented by white people for white
people.

Basketball was invented by a white Canadian living in the US,
James Naismith, but I've never seen any claim that he intended it to
only be played by white people. He was white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Naismith

The people who scream about 'cultural appropriation' really hate it
when you throw that one in their face. They have no answer for it and
they realize that if they're suggesting white people stop using black culture, then there's no way they can logically justify blacks
playing basketball. The most common dodge is that they'll say it's
okay when they appropriate white culture because reparations.

As for the roots of American country music? According to John
McEuen of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it came from everywhere:
"Country music wasn't called that yet, but it was music of the
country. It was a combination of the

Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into the
world; the Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in Texas; the
Germans bringing over the 'oom-pah' of polka music, all
converging."

Yeah, but what the author doesn't realize is that blacks also
invented the German polka and they invented the music of the vaqueros
and they invented the Irish reel as well. Blacks invented everything,
dontcha know! (And even if they didn't, we have to pretend they did
or we're raaaaciiist because slavery.)

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 18:39 -0500
Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:

Ubiquitous wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had
stolen every form of music in existence — with the
exception of classical music — from black people.

“The Daily Show” correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on
the topic, responding to critics who had suggested
Beyonce’s upcoming country album — after a lengthy career
in hip hop and pop music — was a step outside her
proscribed lane.

WATCH:

MSNBC guest: "If White people hated cultural
appropriation, then they shouldn't have created music.
Because every form of music in America was stolen from
Black people." pic.twitter.com/wysQqDTLaf

— TheBlaze (@theblaze) February 19, 2024

The host of the show joked that the conservatives
complaining about Beyonce’s foray into country were just
proving that people on the Right actually were not in
favor of “cultural appropriation.”

“But black people have always been a part of folk and
country music,” he continued, turning the question over to
Sloan. “You want to weigh in on that?”

“If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they
shouldn’t have created music,” Sloan said. “Because every
form of music in America was stolen from black people:
rock’n’roll, jazz, blues, country, pop music. So if you
have a problem with cultural appropriation — y’all created
classical music, y’all could have stuck with that …”

“Roll the piano into this concert,” Sloan continued in
mocking tones, claiming that white people — and
conservatives — only had an issue with cultural
appropriation when the thing being appropriated was
something they liked or wanted to be associated with.

“As dumb as this is, let’s just say she’s right,” one
person responded via X. “Fine. We’ll give up performing
rock & roll and she can give up indoor plumbing, the
printed word, cell phones, and wheeled transportation.”

As dumb as this is, let’s just say she’s right.

Fine. We’ll give up performing rock & roll and she can
give up indoor plumbing, the printed word, cell phones,
and wheeled transportation. https://t.co/9rqnNdxkth

— Tandy (@dantypo) February 20, 2024

“Here’s the issue with this. They take something that is
an irrefutable fact (the foundations of American popular
music comes from Black Americans) and then mix it with
some bulls*** (every form of music in America was
‘stolen’). I can’t believe I have to say this in 2024 but
ITS NOT A BAD THING THAT WHITE PEOPLE CONSUME OUR
CONTENT,” Darvio Morrow commented.

“Yes there have been issues with the music industry
robbing Black artists, obscenely so during the Rock and
Roll era. And I’ve already laid out how the INDUSTRY stole
rock music from Black folks. But you can’t blame the whole
country for the practices of the entertainment industry.
That was the industry, not the people,” he continued. “The
audience never stopped loving our music. I view our
immense contributions to American popular music and
culture as a point of pride. The number one genre of music
in the country TODAY is Black music (Hip-Hop/R&B). To take
something we should celebrate and bash the country with it
is so stupid and counterproductive.”

Here’s the issue with this. They take something that is an
irrefutable fact (the foundations of American popular
music comes from Black Americans) and then mix it with
some bullsh*t (every form of music in America was
“stolen”). I can’t believe I have to say this in 2024 but
ITS… https://t.co/MSt3No1xKC

— Darvio Morrow (@DTheKingpin) February 20, 2024

Despite the furor, Beyonce’s “Texas Hold ‘Em” — a single
released during the Super Bowl alongside “16 Carriages,”
both from her upcoming album — has already rocketed to the
top of the Billboard Country chart, making the Destiny’s
Child alum the first black woman to have a number 1 single
on the country chart.

As for the roots of American country music? According to
John McEuen of The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, it camae from
everywhere: “Country music wasn’t called that yet, but it
was music of the country. It was a combination of the
Irish; the recently freed slaves, bringing the banjo into
the world; the Spanish effects of the vaqueros down in
Texas; the Germans bringing over the ‘oom-pah’ of polka
music, all converging.”

Classical music has been appropriated too.

Since last year, the classical music channel on SiriusXM
has been making a point of playing music from a limited
list of black classical-style composers, especially
Florence Price who hits the daily double with being
both black and female. Another frequent black composer
heard is William Grant Sill. And occasionally Scott
Joplin (who would be more appropriate on one of the
several Jazz channels).

Oh, and they've also moved the Met Opera channel to
streaming only, but still feature an opera on the
Symphony Hall channel on Saturday afternoons. Instead
of the usual Wagner, last week's opera segment featured
an opera titled "The Life of Malcolm X."

Good thing I've got plenty of music on CDs and vinyl.

Nyssa, who wonders if this is a flash in the pan or
a permanent trend

When I first heard rap 30 or 35 years ago , I truly sure it was going
to be a flash in the pan: it was too awful to have any staying power. I
was obviously wrong about the staying power part!




--
Rhino

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On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 03:06:30 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen
every form of music in existence-- with the exception of
classical music-- from black people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before
they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where
blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history were
really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a
black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in the
basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not kidding. They actually seriously say this.

Who was this black man? When did it happen?

I'm guessing he was the senior astronaut from the Wakenda Space Program
and it happened in 1000 BC.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the car, the
computer, toilets-- there's nothing they didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

The first of the two clips is pure wishful thinking: she wants blacks
to have invented all those things so she simply insists they did
without an iota of proof. She does even name these black geniuses or
give any details of when and under what circumstances these inventions
were made.

There is actually some truth to the second guy's points: African
minerals and materials were probably important in building some
things in the world. But the various African *people* can't claim
credit for that. They didn't create the gold or diamonds or coltan or
whatever. I don't think they even FOUND most of it, let alone set up
the businesses that extracted them. I don't doubt that all or most of
the grunt labour was done by blacks, sometimes as employees and
sometimes as de facto slaves but there's not a lot of creativity in
digging.



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On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 02:08:42 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 10:15:11 PM PST, "The Horny Goat"
<lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 03:06:30 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 4:00:23 PM PST, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:

BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous"
<weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen
every form of
music in existence-- with the exception of classical music--
from black people.

Sure. Because all the European peoples never had music before
they met black

people. Riiigghht.

This is just more of the recent trend on social media where
blacks are

claiming every cultural and scientific achievement in history
were really done
by black people.

The works of Shakespeare? Ghost-written by a black woman.

Newton's Laws of Motion? Stolen by Newton from the work of a
black guy.

Newton was a black guy. Remember your Doctor Who?

All music everywhere? Invented by blacks.

Electricity? Actually discovered by blacks.

Einstein? White guy taking credit for black math.

All spaceflight equations at NASA were done by black women in
the basement.

And a black man was the first to walk on the moon. (Not kidding.
They actually
seriously say this.

Listen to this one claim blacks invented everything-- the car, the
computer, toilets-- there's nothing they didn't invent.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1760224013375111449?s=20

This Wiki page has photos of all the Apollo astronauts - the ones
that walked on the Moon as well as the ones that didn't. Which is
the black one? (It sure as hell isn't Neil Armstrong!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_astronauts

As for the human "computers" - they definitely contributed (and were
NOT all black) but anybody who claims they were the entire NASA
computing effort? - well I want some of what they've been smoking!

But for sure it wasn't a black who invented basketball though I'd
bet there are plenty who wish that one had!

One of the common themes in posts all over the Twitters and the
Facebook is "Africa built Europe!" And "Africa built America!"

There is no doubt that people of African descent had a hand in building America, in the form of both slaves and employees working in
agriculture, railroad construction and such things. But there was
precious little invention or creativity in those efforts that I can
see. They worked for white people that figured out what work had to
be done and how to do it and then supplied basic grunt labour. There
may be the odd exception to that in the form of the occasional black
engineer but I think the general trend was very much as I've said.

I'm going to need some convincing to believe that blacks were a
significant part of the labour force in building Europe.

If you really want to enrage them, just respond, "Okay, so when is
Africa going to get around to building Africa?"

As Bruce Willis said during one gun battle: "Ooh, that's going to leave
a mark!"



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In article <20240401135352.00006626@example.com>,
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 21:53:16 +0000
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 21, 2024 at 9:38:53 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

An MSNBC guest claimed on Monday that white people had stolen every
form of music in existence-- with the exception of classical
music-- from black people.

I'm surprised they didn't claim that Bach, Beethoven, Mozart and the
rest were actually partially black or married to very creative black
women or whatever.

I'm sure if you asked Google's AI to give you a picture of Bach,
Beethoven, and Mozart, it would return pictures of black men.

Then again, I remember that 30 years ago, the gays
claiming that Beethoven was gay because he had written some love letters
to someone identified only as "immortal beloved"; they insisted that
this person was surely male making both of them gay. (Wikipedia,
however, lists 4 possible identities for "immortal beloved", all of
them female.)

Tschaikowsky was pretty much known to be gay. Never heard that about
Beethoven.

THE DAILY SHOW correspondent Dulce Sloan weighed in on the topic, responding to critics who had suggested Beyonce’s upcoming country album-- after a lengthy career in hip hop and pop music-- was a
step outside her proscribed lane.

The host of the show joked that the conservatives complaining about Beyonce's

foray into country were just proving that people on the Right
actually were not in favor of "cultural appropriation".

No, it's called applying your own stupid rules against you and
watching the resulting leaps of illogic y'all engage in to try to
justify the hypocrisy.

White people can't braid their hair because that's black culture.
(Ignoring the fact that the Norse people braided their hair long
before they ever encountered blacks.)

<Beyonce dies hair blonde>

But that's "different"(TM)!

"If white people hated cultural appropriation, then they shouldn't
have created music," Sloan said.

Wait... I thought you said whites *didn't* create any kind of music.
Now you're saying they did?

Because every form of music in America was stolen from black people: rock'n'roll, jazz, blues, country, pop music.

Film music? Did blacks invent that, too?

Probably, because I've been told they really invented both the camera
and film itself, so of course film music was theirs, too. Natch.

The (still) camera was invented by a French man named Nicephore Niepce
who looks decidedly white in this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nic%C3%A9phore_Ni%C3%A9pce

The movie camera was invented by Thomas Edison, who is distinctly white
in every picture I've ever seen.

Nope. It was really the Black Kangs and Kweens who invented those
things. Just ask them, they'll tell you so.

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