• CA Senate Candidate Barbara Lee: "I Support a $50/Hour Minimum Wage

    From BTR1701@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 15 03:09:20 2024
    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share

    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, right, Barb?

    Hell, why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Feb 14 23:40:21 2024
    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:09:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share

    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, >right, Barb?

    Hell, why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    and what about all the homeless, or the poor people or those on fixed
    incomes. If you are working that sort of increase may be able to be
    dealt with but for everyone else it's going to be difficult to deal
    with because any increase that large has to be passed on to the
    customers. Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine a lot
    of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done by robots in the
    future.)

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Wed Feb 14 21:03:30 2024
    In article <o85rsi5gch0l7r0hl6rsnluc5ekm2ihnfv@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:09:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share

    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, >right, Barb?

    Why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    and what about all the homeless, or the poor people or those on fixed incomes. If you are working that sort of increase may be able to be
    dealt with but for everyone else it's going to be difficult to deal
    with because any increase that large has to be passed on to the
    customers. Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine a lot
    of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done by robots in the
    future.)

    Barbara Lee: "We have an affordability crisis. Everything is
    unaffordable now."

    Solution: Raise the minimum wage so high that everything becomes
    unaffordable for everyone and literally no one can afford to do business
    in California. All business flees the state and the state collapses into anarchy. Crisis solved!

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the modern Democrat Party in all its
    glory.

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Feb 15 02:35:41 2024
    On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:03:30 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <o85rsi5gch0l7r0hl6rsnluc5ekm2ihnfv@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:09:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share >> >
    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, >> >right, Barb?

    Why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    and what about all the homeless, or the poor people or those on fixed
    incomes. If you are working that sort of increase may be able to be
    dealt with but for everyone else it's going to be difficult to deal
    with because any increase that large has to be passed on to the
    customers. Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine a lot
    of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done by robots in the
    future.)

    Barbara Lee: "We have an affordability crisis. Everything is
    unaffordable now."

    Solution: Raise the minimum wage so high that everything becomes
    unaffordable for everyone and literally no one can afford to do business
    in California. All business flees the state and the state collapses into >anarchy. Crisis solved!

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the modern Democrat Party in all its
    glory.

    One, it isn't the Democratic Party, it's your representative in
    California.

    Secondly, we also have Trump and the Congress that passed a change in
    the tax code that looks like it is forcing companies to now go from
    being able to write off the salaries of developers the year it gets
    paid, but now they have to write it off over years just like with
    physical equipment. Which is a real problem for small companies like
    startups. At least the big corps usually have enough of bank that they
    can afford to write it off over the years.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Feb 15 04:30:45 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share

    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, right, Barb?

    Hell, why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    Looks like "Babs" has made Rush Limbaugh's argument for us.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Thu Feb 15 10:28:17 2024
    In article <5gfrsid4v1vgfrlv24r66q9mhv92jgrfno@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:03:30 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <o85rsi5gch0l7r0hl6rsnluc5ekm2ihnfv@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:09:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share >> >
    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, >> >right, Barb?

    Why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    and what about all the homeless, or the poor people or those on fixed
    incomes. If you are working that sort of increase may be able to be
    dealt with but for everyone else it's going to be difficult to deal
    with because any increase that large has to be passed on to the
    customers. Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine a lot
    of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done by robots in the
    future.)

    Barbara Lee: "We have an affordability crisis. Everything is
    unaffordable now."

    Solution: Raise the minimum wage so high that everything becomes >unaffordable for everyone and literally no one can afford to do business
    in California. All business flees the state and the state collapses into >anarchy. Crisis solved!

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the modern Democrat Party in all its >glory.

    One, it isn't the Democratic Party, it's your representative in
    California.

    Secondly, we also have Trump and the Congress that passed a change in
    the tax code that looks like it is forcing companies to now go from
    being able to write off the salaries of developers the year it gets
    paid, but now they have to write it off over years just like with
    physical equipment. Which is a real problem for small companies like startups. At least the big corps usually have enough of bank that they
    can afford to write it off over the years.

    Even if true, other than just a spectacular example of whataboutism,
    what does any of that have to do with the astounding stupidity of
    calling for a $50/hour minimum wage?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ed Stasiak on Thu Feb 15 13:49:43 2024
    In article <2c2ea436-97cf-4e95-b704-0f3798eb8f67n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    shawn

    Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine
    a lot of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done
    by robots in the future.)

    Read somewhere that the "AI Revolution" will render white-collar
    jobs irrelevant, as it's far easier and cheeper to replace a human
    in management who generates pointless TPS reports and such
    with advanced software, then to replace blue-collar meatbags
    like me with what will essentially need to be a C3PO-tier robot,
    which will cost shitloads of money and require tons of constant
    and expensive maintenance (from blue-collar meatbags like me).

    For example, just think about how much goes into something as
    simple as setting up your coffee maker and what kinda robot
    you'd need for something like that.

    Yeah, until they have Terminator-level cyborgs, my previous career is
    safe from AI. Someone has to be there to physically take the bullet when
    it comes.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 04:45:25 2024
    On 2/15/24 12:28 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <5gfrsid4v1vgfrlv24r66q9mhv92jgrfno@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:03:30 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <o85rsi5gch0l7r0hl6rsnluc5ekm2ihnfv@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:09:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share >>>>>
    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, >>>>> right, Barb?

    Why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    and what about all the homeless, or the poor people or those on fixed
    incomes. If you are working that sort of increase may be able to be
    dealt with but for everyone else it's going to be difficult to deal
    with because any increase that large has to be passed on to the
    customers. Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it >>>> taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine a lot
    of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done by robots in the
    future.)

    Barbara Lee: "We have an affordability crisis. Everything is
    unaffordable now."

    Solution: Raise the minimum wage so high that everything becomes
    unaffordable for everyone and literally no one can afford to do business >>> in California. All business flees the state and the state collapses into >>> anarchy. Crisis solved!

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the modern Democrat Party in all its
    glory.

    One, it isn't the Democratic Party, it's your representative in
    California.

    Secondly, we also have Trump and the Congress that passed a change in
    the tax code that looks like it is forcing companies to now go from
    being able to write off the salaries of developers the year it gets
    paid, but now they have to write it off over years just like with
    physical equipment. Which is a real problem for small companies like
    startups. At least the big corps usually have enough of bank that they
    can afford to write it off over the years.

    Even if true, other than just a spectacular example of whataboutism,
    what does any of that have to do with the astounding stupidity of
    calling for a $50/hour minimum wage?


    Actually the tax cuts for the wealthy were started by Mr. Azheimer's,
    Ronnie Reagan. Then by Bush the younger and then by Trump the fatter.
    I think it was five tax cuts in all. Extricate your head from your anus
    and explain to the group why this is the real problem.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 04:43:10 2024
    On 2/14/24 11:03 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <o85rsi5gch0l7r0hl6rsnluc5ekm2ihnfv@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 03:09:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share >>>
    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, >>> right, Barb?

    Why stop there? Why not $500/hour?

    and what about all the homeless, or the poor people or those on fixed
    incomes. If you are working that sort of increase may be able to be
    dealt with but for everyone else it's going to be difficult to deal
    with because any increase that large has to be passed on to the
    customers. Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine a lot
    of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done by robots in the
    future.)

    Barbara Lee: "We have an affordability crisis. Everything is
    unaffordable now."

    Solution: Raise the minimum wage so high that everything becomes
    unaffordable for everyone and literally no one can afford to do business
    in California. All business flees the state and the state collapses into anarchy. Crisis solved!

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the modern Democrat Party in all its
    glory.


    You're confused as usual. This is only because the working man (and
    other gender identifications) was fucked in the ass by the multiple tax
    cuts for the wealthy promulgated by the right wing cunts. At least put
    the blame where is clearly belongs.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 04:46:32 2024
    On 2/15/24 3:49 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <2c2ea436-97cf-4e95-b704-0f3798eb8f67n@googlegroups.com>,
    Ed Stasiak <edstasiak1067@gmail.com> wrote:

    shawn

    Or they just replace everyone with robots now instead of it
    taking the 20 to 30 years it's likely to take (yeah, I imagine
    a lot of manual labor and minimum wage jobs will be done
    by robots in the future.)

    Read somewhere that the "AI Revolution" will render white-collar
    jobs irrelevant, as it's far easier and cheeper to replace a human
    in management who generates pointless TPS reports and such
    with advanced software, then to replace blue-collar meatbags
    like me with what will essentially need to be a C3PO-tier robot,
    which will cost shitloads of money and require tons of constant
    and expensive maintenance (from blue-collar meatbags like me).

    For example, just think about how much goes into something as
    simple as setting up your coffee maker and what kinda robot
    you'd need for something like that.

    Yeah, until they have Terminator-level cyborgs, my previous career is
    safe from AI. Someone has to be there to physically take the bullet when
    it comes.


    Smart move putting your sockpuppet on the case. Heretofore you were
    drowning in your own horseshit.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 16 04:41:22 2024
    On 2/14/24 9:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    https://www.veed.io/view/b0ad549c-840e-4b38-8abc-31653e9b5a8d?panel=share

    Sure, why not? I mean, a Big Mac will only cost $75.00 but what the hell, right, Barb?

    Hell, why stop there? Why not $500/hour?


    True, billionaires could still afford to pay that after all the tax cuts
    the right wing assholes have given them.

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