A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues after selling
his students' art work online - without their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-teacher-lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that people are
buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen my share of student art
in my own school days, I can't imagine paying for ANY of it unless
perhaps I was the student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to
keep working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe just to
keep them from doing negative things like hanging out with the wrong
crowd.

Aside from that, it seems like a clear-cut case of copyright
infringement. I believe that one of the comments under the story is
correct and that, in Canada, copyright is automatic upon creation of
the work.

If I were the teacher, I would offer to pay the students involved a cut
of the sale price to try to make the legal threats go away. (I expect
the percentage would be negotiable unless there is something in law that
says what the exact percentage should be.) The parents seem to be upset
about this but given the choice of getting a percentage of the sale
price without having to do anything more or paying god-knows-what to
lawyers to pursue this, I would think taking a cut of the sale price
would be far more advantageous financially.

--
Rhino

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Rhino wrote:

A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues
after selling his students' art work online - without
their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-

teacher-lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that
people are buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen
my share of student art in my own school days, I can't
imagine paying for ANY of it unless perhaps I was the
student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to keep
working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe
just to keep them from doing negative things like hanging
out with the wrong crowd.

Aside from that, it seems like a clear-cut case of
copyright infringement. I believe that one of the comments
under the story is correct and that, in Canada, copyright
is automatic upon creation of the work.

If I were the teacher, I would offer to pay the students
involved a cut of the sale price to try to make the legal
threats go away. (I expect the percentage would be
negotiable unless there is something in law that says what
the exact percentage should be.) The parents seem to be
upset about this but given the choice of getting a
percentage of the sale price without having to do anything
more or paying god-knows-what to lawyers to pursue this, I
would think taking a cut of the sale price would be far
more advantageous financially.

An alternative might be for *all* of the proceeds from
any sales be used for art supplies for the class.

Gets the teacher out of a bind she put herself in (and
teaches *her* a lesson!) while avoiding lawyers and
benefiting the kids in the art class.

Nyssa, who looks for a peaceful solution to the problem

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Nyssa <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:

Rhino wrote:

A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues
after selling his students' art work online - without
their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-

teacher-lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that
people are buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen
my share of student art in my own school days, I can't
imagine paying for ANY of it unless perhaps I was the
student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to keep
working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe
just to keep them from doing negative things like hanging
out with the wrong crowd.

Aside from that, it seems like a clear-cut case of
copyright infringement. I believe that one of the comments
under the story is correct and that, in Canada, copyright
is automatic upon creation of the work.

If I were the teacher, I would offer to pay the students
involved a cut of the sale price to try to make the legal
threats go away. (I expect the percentage would be
negotiable unless there is something in law that says what
the exact percentage should be.) The parents seem to be
upset about this but given the choice of getting a
percentage of the sale price without having to do anything
more or paying god-knows-what to lawyers to pursue this, I
would think taking a cut of the sale price would be far
more advantageous financially.

An alternative might be for *all* of the proceeds from
any sales be used for art supplies for the class.

Gets the teacher out of a bind she put herself in (and
teaches *her* a lesson!) while avoiding lawyers and
benefiting the kids in the art class.

Nyssa, who looks for a peaceful solution to the problem

Thousands of items for sale at hundreds of dollars each? Stolen items, at
that? No, after being assessed the damages in full, this person needs to
never work in anything more than garbage sorting again. Apparently the
cowardly cretin teacher is hiding but the article refers to “his“ initials.

It would be interesting to know what the school district knew, and when
they learned it.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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On Feb 14, 2024 at 4:07:02 PM PST, "Nyssa" <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:

Rhino wrote:

A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues
after selling his students' art work online - without
their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-

teacher-lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that
people are buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen
my share of student art in my own school days, I can't
imagine paying for ANY of it unless perhaps I was the
student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to keep
working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe
just to keep them from doing negative things like hanging
out with the wrong crowd.

Aside from that, it seems like a clear-cut case of
copyright infringement. I believe that one of the comments
under the story is correct and that, in Canada, copyright
is automatic upon creation of the work.

If I were the teacher, I would offer to pay the students
involved a cut of the sale price to try to make the legal
threats go away. (I expect the percentage would be
negotiable unless there is something in law that says what
the exact percentage should be.) The parents seem to be
upset about this but given the choice of getting a
percentage of the sale price without having to do anything
more or paying god-knows-what to lawyers to pursue this, I
would think taking a cut of the sale price would be far
more advantageous financially.

An alternative might be for *all* of the proceeds from
any sales be used for art supplies for the class.

They can't force that. The kids own the copyright on their work. The
government can't come along and say, "But if you sell it, all the money that legally belongs to you has to be donated to this government organization."

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:58:47 -0500, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues after selling
his students' art work online - without their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-teacher-lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that people are
buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen my share of student art
in my own school days, I can't imagine paying for ANY of it unless
perhaps I was the student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to
keep working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe just to
keep them from doing negative things like hanging out with the wrong
crowd.

I've actually been in a situation like this but unlike this case this
was a sale based on a graduation exhibition at the art school that my
daughter graduated from. (https://www.ecuad.ca/ - Emily Carr
University of Art + Design)

Which is a bit different from what you're talking about...

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In article <5bgrsipu4jp2bvisnsv8hqn3d7pmkfp3pc@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:58:47 -0500, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues after selling
his students' art work online - without their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-teacher-

lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that people are
buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen my share of student art
in my own school days, I can't imagine paying for ANY of it unless
perhaps I was the student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to
keep working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe just to
keep them from doing negative things like hanging out with the wrong
crowd.

"The worth of a thing is what that thing will bring." However, the
point is that the teacher is stealing the work of their students and is profiting thereby. Jail, please.

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A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

In article <5bgrsipu4jp2bvisnsv8hqn3d7pmkfp3pc@4ax.com>, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:58:47 -0500, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

A teacher at a school in Montreal is facing legal issues after selling
his students' art work online - without their consent.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/parents-threaten-to-sue-teacher-

lester-b-pearson-school-board-over-artwork

Frankly, the big surprise for me in this story is that people are
buying student art for $20 - $120. Having seen my share of student art
in my own school days, I can't imagine paying for ANY of it unless
perhaps I was the student's parent and wanted to encourage him/her to
keep working at art due to some perceived potential - or maybe just to
keep them from doing negative things like hanging out with the wrong
crowd.

"The worth of a thing is what that thing will bring." However, the
point is that the teacher is stealing the work of their students and is profiting thereby. Jail, please.

I’d settle for permanent poverty and disgrace, but jail works too.

--
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.

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