A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the >hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship
sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want their >health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's status was
the whole essence of the story. In this case at least, "privacy" is
just another way of saying "covering our asses in case the mother
decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a >career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where
the hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that
ship sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an
appropriate reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does
not want their health status bandied about in the press but the
teenager's status was the whole essence of the story. In this case
at least, "privacy" is just another way of saying "covering our
asses in case the mother decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning
toward a career in nursing but was now having serious second
thoughts.
In the United States, hospital emergency departments are rated for the
kind of care they are able to provide. Trauma center levels are
designated by state but follow national evaluations. Level I means,
among other things, that surgical teams are available in a variety of specialties, particularly neurosurgery. A small hospital isn't going
to have a neurosurgery team on staff overnight, if it even has one
during the day.
The hospital she went to didn't even have a general surgery team
available overnight. That's absurd. Can't run an emergency department
without at least an availabl surgeon.
The Levels go through V. Not all emergency departments are trauma
centers.
Doesn't Canada have a hospital rating protocol?
I'm shocked that they didn't operate without the ultrasound since it
wasn't available. It truly can't be diagnosed without it?
Good thing
she didn't get sepsis, which she really could have given the wait.
On Tuesday 30 January 2024 at 22:38:22 UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting>
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.>
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the>
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply>
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.>>
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883>>
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the>
hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship>
sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate>
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want
their> health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's
status was> the whole essence of the story. In this case at least,
"privacy" is> just another way of saying "covering our asses in case
the mother> decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".>> I also found it
interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a> career in
nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.>> --> Rhino
immigrants are clogging up emergency rooms, it's rampant. Only
solution is to incorporate private clinics into the system. There are
plenty that do ultrasound, the Third worlders go to them to confirm
female fetuses before they have them aborted. At tax-payer expense.
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship
sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want their health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's status was
the whole essence of the story. In this case at least, "privacy" is
just another way of saying "covering our asses in case the mother
decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the
hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship
sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want their
health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's status was
the whole essence of the story. In this case at least, "privacy" is
just another way of saying "covering our asses in case the mother
decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a
career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.
It’s the opposite here. Mom had to wait three days to get an MRI because >every time she was scheduled the ER sent somebody up and they take >precedence.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:49:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the
hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship
sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want their
health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's status was
the whole essence of the story. In this case at least, "privacy" is
just another way of saying "covering our asses in case the mother
decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a
career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.
It’s the opposite here. Mom had to wait three days to get an MRI because >> every time she was scheduled the ER sent somebody up and they take
precedence.
I guess I've been lucky. My few times to the hospital have gone
smoothly. When I had that kidney stone they got me into the ER right
away as no one else was there. It helps that it was a smaller local
hospital so the major cases would go to the bigger hospitals and it
was Thanksgiving Day.
The other time was when I had broken my arm and while I did end up
waiting for a few hours when they did see me they sent me to the MRI
right away with no one else there. Though it didn't go so well as soon
as I got into that tube I had to get out as I knew there was no way I
could manage 30 minutes in there sitting still. If it had been just a
few minutes or if they had moved my head out of the tube it would have
been fine but stuck in there wasn't going to work for me. Though again
by the time they saw me it must have been about nine at night so there
was no rush to use the MRI.
On 1/31/2024 9:22 AM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:49:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>For a broken arm, looks like they would have done a simple Xray.
wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting
for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds.
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the >>>> hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship
sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want their >>>> health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's status was >>>> the whole essence of the story. In this case at least, "privacy" is
just another way of saying "covering our asses in case the mother
decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a >>>> career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.
It’s the opposite here. Mom had to wait three days to get an MRI because >>> every time she was scheduled the ER sent somebody up and they take
precedence.
I guess I've been lucky. My few times to the hospital have gone
smoothly. When I had that kidney stone they got me into the ER right
away as no one else was there. It helps that it was a smaller local
hospital so the major cases would go to the bigger hospitals and it
was Thanksgiving Day.
The other time was when I had broken my arm and while I did end up
waiting for a few hours when they did see me they sent me to the MRI
right away with no one else there. Though it didn't go so well as soon
as I got into that tube I had to get out as I knew there was no way I
could manage 30 minutes in there sitting still. If it had been just a
few minutes or if they had moved my head out of the tube it would have
been fine but stuck in there wasn't going to work for me. Though again
by the time they saw me it must have been about nine at night so there
was no rush to use the MRI.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:49:15 -0800, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:22 AM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:49:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>For a broken arm, looks like they would have done a simple Xray.
wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs waiting >>>>> for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there were no beds. >>>>> There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in the
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait was simply
waiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where the >>>>> hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd say that ship >>>>> sailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an appropriate
reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient does not want their >>>>> health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's status was >>>>> the whole essence of the story. In this case at least, "privacy" is
just another way of saying "covering our asses in case the mother
decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".
I also found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a >>>>> career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.
It’s the opposite here. Mom had to wait three days to get an MRI because >>>> every time she was scheduled the ER sent somebody up and they take
precedence.
I guess I've been lucky. My few times to the hospital have gone
smoothly. When I had that kidney stone they got me into the ER right
away as no one else was there. It helps that it was a smaller local
hospital so the major cases would go to the bigger hospitals and it
was Thanksgiving Day.
The other time was when I had broken my arm and while I did end up
waiting for a few hours when they did see me they sent me to the MRI
right away with no one else there. Though it didn't go so well as soon
as I got into that tube I had to get out as I knew there was no way I
could manage 30 minutes in there sitting still. If it had been just a
few minutes or if they had moved my head out of the tube it would have
been fine but stuck in there wasn't going to work for me. Though again
by the time they saw me it must have been about nine at night so there
was no rush to use the MRI.
I had gone to one of those Urgent Care places since it was so close by
and they did an X-Ray there, but the doctor said I should also go to
the ER because the break was high up on the arm. The Orthopedic
Surgeon looked at the X-Rays and wanted to do the MRI also. Guess he
was just being extra careful, but I never got the MRI and was fine.
Really the only issues I'm aware of with a break is it a clean break
with few pieces so the bones can come together cleanly over time. The
other is a quick check for compartment syndrome but given that it had
been a number of hours by the time I saw the doctor it was clear that
wasn't an issue.
On 1/31/2024 9:59 AM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:49:15 -0800, suzeeq <suzee@imbris.com> wrote:
On 1/31/2024 9:22 AM, shawn wrote:
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:49:50 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
wrote:
Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
Good. I've never broken a bone, but have had several sprains.For a broken arm, looks like they would have done a simple Xray.
It’s the opposite here. Mom had to wait three days to get an MRI because
every time she was scheduled the ER sent somebody up and they take
precedence.
I guess I've been lucky. My few times to the hospital have gone
smoothly. When I had that kidney stone they got me into the ER right
away as no one else was there. It helps that it was a smaller local
hospital so the major cases would go to the bigger hospitals and it
was Thanksgiving Day.
The other time was when I had broken my arm and while I did end up
waiting for a few hours when they did see me they sent me to the MRI
right away with no one else there. Though it didn't go so well as soon >>>> as I got into that tube I had to get out as I knew there was no way I
could manage 30 minutes in there sitting still. If it had been just a
few minutes or if they had moved my head out of the tube it would have >>>> been fine but stuck in there wasn't going to work for me. Though again >>>> by the time they saw me it must have been about nine at night so there >>>> was no rush to use the MRI.
I had gone to one of those Urgent Care places since it was so close by
and they did an X-Ray there, but the doctor said I should also go to
the ER because the break was high up on the arm. The Orthopedic
Surgeon looked at the X-Rays and wanted to do the MRI also. Guess he
was just being extra careful, but I never got the MRI and was fine.
Really the only issues I'm aware of with a break is it a clean break
with few pieces so the bones can come together cleanly over time. The
other is a quick check for compartment syndrome but given that it had
been a number of hours by the time I saw the doctor it was clear that
wasn't an issue.
On 2024-01-31 04:35:29 +0000, Rich said:
On Tuesday 30 January 2024 at 22:38:22 UTC-5, Rhino wrote:
A teen in my home town of Kitchener spent 19 hours in two ERs
waiting> for an appendectomy, most of it in chairs because there
waiting> were no beds.>
There was no overnight staffing of the ultrasound machine(s) in
smaller of the two hospitals so a good part of her wait waswaiting for the ultrasound techs to start up for the day.>>
simply>
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/kitchener-ont-teen-waits-19-hours-for-emergency-appendectomy-1.6748883>>
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the final paragraph where
hospital wouldn't comment over "privacy" concerns. I'd saysailed when the mother went to the media. Privacy is an
that ship>
appropriate> reason for the hospital to clam up when the patient
appropriate> does not want
their> health status bandied about in the press but the teenager's
their>
status was> the whole essence of the story. In this case at least,
"privacy" is> just another way of saying "covering our asses in
case the mother> decides to sue on the daugher's behalf".>> I also
found it interesting that the daughter had been leaning toward a>
career in nursing but was now having serious second thoughts.>>
Rhino
immigrants are clogging up emergency rooms, it's rampant. Only
solution is to incorporate private clinics into the system. There
are plenty that do ultrasound, the Third worlders go to them to
confirm female fetuses before they have them aborted. At tax-payer expense.
I don't know about America, but here in New Zealand the emergency
rooms at the hospital get inundated with morons who have a runny
nose, but are too stupid (or too cheap-ass) to see a normal doctor /
GP. They have no understanding that the emergency room is for actual *emergencies*, anything else non-urgent is what the normal doctor /
GP is for. :-\
I don't know about America, but here in New Zealand the emergency rooms
at the hospital get inundated with morons who have a runny nose, but
are too stupid (or too cheap-ass) to see a normal doctor / GP. They
have no understanding that the emergency room is for actual
*emergencies*, anything else non-urgent is what the normal doctor / GP
is for. :-\
The other time was when I had broken my arm and while I did end up
waiting for a few hours when they did see me they sent me to the MRI
right away with no one else there. Though it didn't go so well as soon
as I got into that tube I had to get out as I knew there was no way I
could manage 30 minutes in there sitting still. If it had been just a
few minutes or if they had moved my head out of the tube it would have
been fine but stuck in there wasn't going to work for me. Though again
by the time they saw me it must have been about nine at night so there
was no rush to use the MRI.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 19:41:25 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:
I don't know about America, but here in New Zealand the emergency rooms
at the hospital get inundated with morons who have a runny nose, but
are too stupid (or too cheap-ass) to see a normal doctor / GP. They
have no understanding that the emergency room is for actual
*emergencies*, anything else non-urgent is what the normal doctor / GP
is for. :-\
In Canada it's fairly common for a person not to have a regular GP.
After my previous GP died, my wife and I found another and also got
our daughter (35 years old) "signed on" with him. 2 1/2 years ago that
GP dropped her as a patient as she wasn't coming in enough.
Probably the ONLY time I had rough words with my GP was after my
wife's passing when after I notified him of her passing I asked if he
could now sign up my daughter again and was told no. (Among other
things she had been discussing her wish for a checkup saying it had
been 5 years since a previous one)
I have a niece in Christchurch who I last saw at New Year's (she was
flying back 2 days later) after she came home for Christmas and New
Year's. Owns a house there (which she could never afford in Vancouver)
and was talking about her promotion which included periodic trips to Australia to visit their subsiduary.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 300 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 78:03:11 |
| Calls: | 6,716 |
| Files: | 12,247 |
| Messages: | 5,357,827 |