• ABC News Host Stops Gavin Newsom After He Claims Biden Has "Best Three-

    From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 04:30:42 2024
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    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had “the best three-year record of any modern American presidency.”

    Newsom said he was working to “lift up the issues, the successes — the extraordinary successes of the last three years, the Biden-Harris administration, and then we drive contrast.”

    “It’s not even a complicated campaign. We have the receipts,” he said. “We
    have the best three-year record of any modern American presidency, period,
    full stop. And you look at the issue, issue by issue, they poll
    overwhelmingly, the American people support what Biden has done.”

    “Except for the big thing, approval,” Karl responded. “Biden’s approval is historically low. Why is that?”

    Newsom dodged answering the question except to say it’s “been hard, globally, the last six, seven years.”

    “The economic strategy, as this president’s put together, were all things Republicans dreamt of, but never delivered,” he added. “He’s delivered.”

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom again dodged giving specifics and blamed Republicans.

    “Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You’ve got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push and the pull,” he
    said. “And that’s around the fundamental issue, immigration reform. It’s not just border security. The president put out a comprehensive strategy, a
    pathway to citizenship along with lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan,
    to address the reality on the ground.”

    “That’s what the president of the United States has put up in front of Congress,” he continued. “And they refuse to act. They’re just promoting an agenda to disrupt and find a crowbar to put in the spokes of the wheels of
    the Biden administration to disrupt any progress on this because they don’t want progress, period.”

    https://youtu.be/1f5cdyU2NEk

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Tue Jan 30 11:26:46 2024
    XPost: alt.troll

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving specifics and
    blamed Republicans.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

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  • From danny burstein@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Jan 30 22:05:29 2024
    In <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> writes:

    [snip]

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well. So it seems the answer is that people may have a general
    feel the economy is not doing well, it actually is doing well for most >people.i

    Except that, pretty much by definition, "those same people" are
    the ones who are doing reasonably well, or at least stable.

    You're (that's a generic 'you") aren't talking to the newly
    homeless or living in shelters, etc.

    Now... is the "larger population", so to speak, doing better
    today than four years ago? That's certainly plausible. But
    let's not get into selection bias.

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    _____________________________________________________
    Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
    dannyb@panix.com
    [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Jan 30 16:54:53 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under the >> Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of illegal aliens
    that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving specifics and
    blamed Republicans.

    So he brings up one point of contention so he can ignore all the other
    areas where Biden has done well. I don't know if it's the best three
    year record but it is clear regardless of what the various Republican candidates have said about the economy that Biden has done well with
    the economy. Not perfect, but then I think perfection in such an area
    would be impossible for anyone.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well. So it seems the answer is that people may have a general
    feel the economy is not doing well, it actually is doing well for most
    people. It's the politicians and then the media playing into their
    comments on the economy that seems to cause people to feel it is doing
    poorly.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've got to >> deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a comprehensive
    conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push and the pull," he
    said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, immigration reform. It's not >> just border security. The president put out a comprehensive strategy, a
    pathway to citizenship along with lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, >> to address the reality on the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone logistically or financially.
    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people. It's one that been done over the years with the Irish and
    the Chinese. Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all. In a few decades it will be some other race
    that is the demon race coming to take your job, your home, your
    spouse.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to shawn on Tue Jan 30 14:31:25 2024
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin >> Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best >> three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under >> the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 18:57:09 2024
    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin >>>> Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best >>>> three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under >>>> the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to shawn on Wed Jan 31 00:09:28 2024
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    . . .

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone >logistically or financially.
    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people. It's one that been done over the years with the Irish and
    the Chinese. Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all. In a few decades it will be some other race
    that is the demon race coming to take your job, your home, your
    spouse.

    You forgot Bohemians, Eyetalians, and maybe Greeks.

    Where all the white women at?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed Jan 31 02:27:30 2024
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin >>>>> Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best >>>>> three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under >>>>> the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving >>>>> specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've >>>>> got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push >>>>> and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put >>>>> out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on >>>>> the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming >>> to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the
    term.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 22:16:58 2024
    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>
    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of >>>>>> illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving >>>>>> specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts >>> and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and >>> is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she >>> was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag >>> in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more >>> than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason >>> (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property >>> Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing >>> here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've >>>>>> got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a >>>>>> comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push >>>>>> and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, >>>>>> immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put >>>>>> out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with >>>>>> lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on >>>>>> the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a >>>>> "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone >>>> logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears >>>> in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states. >>>
    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly >>> call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it. >>>
    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of >>> foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Wed Jan 31 03:24:06 2024
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>
    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of >>>>>>> illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving >>>>>>> specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that >>>>> while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those >>>>> same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are >>>>> doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like >>>> going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts >>>> and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and >>>> is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she >>>> was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag >>>> in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more >>>> than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500 >>>> for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I >>>> called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason >>>> (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company >>>> believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing >>>> here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a >>>>>>> comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, >>>>>>> immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put >>>>>>> out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with >>>>>>> lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on >>>>>>> the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a >>>>>> "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The >>>>> fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people >>>>> back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone >>>>> logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears >>>>> in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of >>>> Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has >>>> nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel) >>>> your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this >>>> level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more >>>> illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states. >>>>
    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems >>>> like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly >>>> stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it. >>>>
    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of >>>> foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right >>>> (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the >> term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jan 31 04:30:41 2024
    XPost: alt.troll

    atropos@mac.com wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of illegal >> aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving specifics and >> blamed Republicans.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've got
    to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push and
    the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, immigration
    reform. It's not just border security. The president put out a
    comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with lines of their >> former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    When will leftists learn to not engage in projection?

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to pwallace@moviepig.com on Wed Jan 31 04:30:43 2024
    In article <p1guN.186090$yEgf.70497@fx09.iad>, pwallace@moviepig.com wrote:
    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor
    Gavin Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had >>>>> "the best three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded
    under the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions >>>>> of illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving >>>>> specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've >>>>> got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push >>>>> and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put >>>>> out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on >>>>> the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming >>> to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    Non sequitur noted. get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com on Wed Jan 31 04:30:42 2024
    nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin >>> Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best >>> three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under >>> the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    So he brings up one point of contention so he can ignore all the other
    areas where Biden has done well. I don't know if it's the best three
    year record but it is clear regardless of what the various Republican >candidates have said about the economy that Biden has done well with
    the economy.


    TROLL-O-METER

    5* 6* *7
    4* *8
    3* *9
    2* *10
    1* | *stuporous
    0* -*- *catatonic
    * |\ *comatose
    * \ *clinical death
    * \ *biological death
    * _\/ *demonic apparition
    * * *damned for all eternity

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 31 12:13:47 2024
    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of >>>>>>>> illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that >>>>>> while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those >>>>>> same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are >>>>>> doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like >>>>> going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500 >>>>> for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I >>>>> called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have >>>>> resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company >>>>> believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a >>>>>>>> comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, >>>>>>>> immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with >>>>>>>> lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a >>>>>>> "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The >>>>>> fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people >>>>>> back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone >>>>>> logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist! >>>>>>
    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears >>>>>> in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of >>>>> Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has >>>>> nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel) >>>>> your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this >>>>> level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more >>>>> illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems >>>>> like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly >>>>> stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy >>>>> theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right >>>>> (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990, >>>> when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the >>> term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of
    America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Wed Jan 31 13:08:03 2024
    In article <6sclrit6cdo50tvrc17a3pjr0jp9aa07lo@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:31:25 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly >call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    As if it's not racist to talk in terms of 'the browning of America'?

    It's never racist when they do the things they claim are racist.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Wed Jan 31 12:55:01 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:31:25 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    As if it's not racist to talk in terms of 'the browning of America'?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Wed Jan 31 21:06:01 2024
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:31:25 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly >>call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    As if it's not racist to talk in terms of 'the browning of America'?

    I'm going to disagree with both of you. Whether it's racist depends on
    context, but the whole point of Time Magazine writing that crappy
    article in the first place was to identify either a nonexistent problem
    or, more likely, to stir up trouble and resentment and to provoke a
    reaction.

    It was the '90s version of a troll.

    The world changes. I might have more in common with people of another nationality who've immigrated than I have with today's yout' who were
    born here in this country but may as well have been born on another
    planet entirely.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Wed Jan 31 17:03:02 2024
    On 1/31/2024 3:55 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:31:25 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    As if it's not racist to talk in terms of 'the browning of America'?

    "Talk", no. But, a racist might *lament* it.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Thu Feb 1 07:49:45 2024
    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those >>>>>>> same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I >>>>>> called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have >>>>>> resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company >>>>>> believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's >>>>>> perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist! >>>>>>>
    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has >>>>>> nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly >>>>>> stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy >>>>>> theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race >>>>>>> coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990, >>>>> when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the
    term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 05:03:18 2024
    On 2/1/24 1:49 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency". >>>>>>>>>
    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have >>>>>>> resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's >>>>>>> perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats. >>>>>>>>
    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist! >>>>>>>>
    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are >>>>>>>> coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy >>>>>>> theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race
    coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the
    term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of
    America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn


    LOL! That looks like Wisconsin.

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  • From A Friend@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Thu Feb 1 05:26:11 2024
    In article <gY2dndI6FYaE0Cb4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things >>>>>> like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and >>>>>> concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has
    skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk >>>>>> as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one >>>>>> small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs >>>>>> more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 >>>>>> ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. >>>>>> I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two >>>>>> reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute >>>>>> Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have >>>>>> resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance >>>>>> company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by >>>>>> existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's >>>>>> perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats. >>>>>>>
    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist! >>>>>>>
    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the >>>>>> votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power >>>>>> has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or >>>>>> cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are >>>>>>> coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near >>>>>> this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, >>>>>> more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 >>>>>> states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. >>>>>> Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have >>>>>> openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they >>>>>> approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy >>>>>> theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not
    supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race
    coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of >>>>>> millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be >>>>>> right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in >>>>> 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented >>>> the
    term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn


    I've found the original. Where's the bit that says she's the one who
    retweeted it?

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 05:18:38 2024
    On 1/30/24 9:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>
    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of >>>>>>>> illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that >>>>>> while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those >>>>>> same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are >>>>>> doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like >>>>> going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500 >>>>> for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I >>>>> called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have >>>>> resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company >>>>> believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a >>>>>>>> comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue, >>>>>>>> immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with >>>>>>>> lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a >>>>>>> "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats.

    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The >>>>>> fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people >>>>>> back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone >>>>>> logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist! >>>>>>
    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears >>>>>> in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of >>>>> Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has >>>>> nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel) >>>>> your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are
    coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this >>>>> level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more >>>>> illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems >>>>> like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly >>>>> stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy >>>>> theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right >>>>> (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990, >>>> when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the >>> term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.


    What's an example of someone figuratively saying something right out loud?

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 11:53:23 2024
    On 2/1/2024 2:49 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>>> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency". >>>>>>>>>
    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250 ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever. I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have >>>>>>> resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's >>>>>>> perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt. You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum, the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats. >>>>>>>>
    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here. The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist! >>>>>>>>
    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are >>>>>>>> coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office, more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33 states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud. Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy >>>>>>> theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon race
    coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she invented the
    term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of
    America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    I'm not up on memes, but I'd take that one to mean, if anything,
    "Islamic Minnesota". Regardless, I don't see it on her TwitterX stream.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Feb 2 03:33:33 2024
    On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 13:08:03 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <6sclrit6cdo50tvrc17a3pjr0jp9aa07lo@4ax.com>,
    The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:31:25 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not supporting it.

    As if it's not racist to talk in terms of 'the browning of America'?

    It's never racist when they do the things they claim are racist.

    I suppose it COULD be worse: "From the river to the sea...." is both
    genocidal AND racist!

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  • From A Friend@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 2 17:19:54 2024
    In article <upiunf$2ktqj$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2/1/24 5:26 AM, A Friend wrote:
    In article <gY2dndI6FYaE0Cb4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig"
    <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic >> Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had
    "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency". >>>>>>>>>>
    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has >> unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the
    millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged
    giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is
    that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask >> those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they
    are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things
    like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and >>>>>>>> concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has >>>>>>>> skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk
    as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one >>>>>>>> small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs
    more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250
    ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents whatsoever.
    I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of two
    reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute
    Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance >>>>>>>> company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by >>>>>>>> existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are dealt.
    You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to >> have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum,
    the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental >> issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The
    president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along
    with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the >> reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give >> them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats. >>>>>>>>>
    I believe he was talking about the people who are already here.
    The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the >> people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let
    alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those
    fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the >>>>>>>> votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power
    has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or >>>>>>>> cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are >>>>>>>>> coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere near
    this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office,
    more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33
    states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud.
    Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have >>>>>>>> openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they >>>>>>>> approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not >>>>>>>> supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon >> race
    coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of >>>>>>>> millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be
    right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in >>>>>>> 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she >>>>>> invented
    the
    term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they
    invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of
    America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn


    I've found the original. Where's the bit that says she's the one who retweeted it?


    Just take Thanny's word for it. I'm sure he would never lie.
    Funny thing though... I can't seem to find her name on it anywhere.


    An outfit called North Shore Trading offers this sticker for $3.95.
    It's for Somalis who love living in Minnesota. (The Somali community
    in the state is one of the largest in the world, outside their home
    country.)

    https://north-shore-trading.square.site/product/minnesota-somali-flag-st icker/19

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to A Friend on Fri Feb 2 18:35:53 2024
    On 2/2/2024 5:19 PM, A Friend wrote:
    In article <upiunf$2ktqj$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2/1/24 5:26 AM, A Friend wrote:
    In article <gY2dndI6FYaE0Cb4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>, BTR1701
    <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>>>> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 9:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 3:57:09 PM PST, "moviePig"
    <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 5:31 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>> shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
    wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic >>>> Governor Gavin
    Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden >> had
    "the best
    three-year record of any modern American presidency". >>>>>>>>>>>>
    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has >>>> unfolded under
    the Biden administration and what should happen to the >>>> millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom
    dodged
    giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is
    that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask >>>> those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that >> they
    are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things
    like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and
    concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has >>>>>>>>>> skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front >> walk
    as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one >>>>>>>>>> small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now >> costs
    more
    than $120?"

    My own biannual car insurance premium inexplicably went up $250
    ($500
    for the year) despite no claims or negative incidents
    whatsoever.
    I
    called and asked what the hell and they said it's because of >> two
    reason
    (1) inflation and (2) I live in Los Angeles "We Don't Prosecute
    Property
    Crime" County. The leftist Democrat hug-a-thug policies here >> have
    resulted in crime exploding to the point where my insurance >>>>>>>>>> company
    believes I'm at certain risk of car theft or vandalism just by
    existing
    here. And shit like that all ties into the economy and people's
    perceptions of it.

    "Well, I think you have to deal with the cards that are
    dealt.
    You've
    got to deal with the reality on the ground. And you have to
    have a
    comprehensive conversation around this, across the spectrum,
    the push
    and the pull," he said. "And that's around the fundamental >>>> issue,
    immigration reform. It's not just border security. The >>>> president put
    out a comprehensive strategy, a pathway to citizenship along
    with
    lines of their former hero, Ronald Reagan, to address the >>>> reality on
    the ground."

    See? They want to let millions of illegals in and then give >>>> them a
    "pathway to citizenship" so they can vote for Democrats. >>>>>>>>>>>
    I believe he was talking about the people who are already
    here.
    The
    fact is it will be impossible politically to send all of the >>>> people
    back to their home country who aren't supposed to be here, let
    alone
    logistically or financially.

    But don't talk about the Replacement Theory or you're a
    racist!

    Because that is a racist idea brought up only to stir up those
    fears
    in people.

    (1) It's not racist. Importing Democrat voters to dilute the >>>>>>>>>> votes of
    Americans and ensure the Democrat party is permanently in power
    has
    nothing to do with race. They're on a mission to replace (or >>>>>>>>>> cancel)
    your vote with the votes of dozens of others.

    Now it's the Mexicans and other Latin Americanos that are >>>>>>>>>>> coming to replace us all.

    We've never before imported foreigners en masse at anywhere >> near
    this
    level before. Just in the three years Biden has been in office,
    more
    illegals have poured into the country than the population of 33
    states.

    If they all voted, they'd have 11 electoral votes.

    Oh, and it's not paranoid when the Dems are saying it out loud.
    Dems
    like Occasional-Cortex and Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar have >>>>>>>>>> openly
    stated that this flood of illegals is just part of what they >>>>>>>>>> approvingly
    call "the browning of America".

    They literally say it right out loud but it's still a
    "conspiracy
    theory" and it's "racist" to talk about it if you're not >>>>>>>>>> supporting it.

    In a few decades it will be some other race that is the demon
    race
    coming
    to take your job, your home, your spouse.

    If the president throws open the border and imports tens of >>>>>>>>>> millions of
    foreigners motivated specifically to dilute your vote, you'd be
    right
    (and not racist) to point it out.

    Afaics, "the browning of America" was coined by Time Magazine in >>>>>>>>> 1990,
    when AOC was an embryo...

    What does that have to do with anything? I never claimed she >>>>>>>> invented
    the
    term.

    What is it that "they literally say right out loud"?

    Again, they say it and they support it but I never claimed they >>>>>> invented it.

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of >>>>> America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn


    I've found the original. Where's the bit that says she's the one who
    retweeted it?


    Just take Thanny's word for it. I'm sure he would never lie.
    Funny thing though... I can't seem to find her name on it anywhere.


    An outfit called North Shore Trading offers this sticker for $3.95.
    It's for Somalis who love living in Minnesota. (The Somali community
    in the state is one of the largest in the world, outside their home
    country.)

    https://north-shore-trading.square.site/product/minnesota-somali-flag-st icker/19

    So, Ilhan Omar is browning Minnesota with Somalis? The harpy...

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to A Friend on Fri Feb 2 20:00:33 2024
    In article <020220241719545585%nope@noway.com>,
    A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/24 5:26 AM, A Friend wrote:
    In article <gY2dndI6FYaE0Cb4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of >>> America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    I've found the original. Where's the bit that says she's the one who retweeted it?

    An outfit called North Shore Trading offers this sticker for $3.95.
    It's for Somalis who love living in Minnesota. (The Somali community
    in the state is one of the largest in the world, outside their home
    country.)

    It's a take on the new Minnesota state flag

    https://ibb.co/NsLwVzC

    which bears an uncanny resemblance to the Somali flag. (Just a
    coincidence, I'm sure.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Somalia

    Minnesota felt the need to change its state flag in the first place
    because the old one had a farmer plowing a field waving to an Indian
    riding by on a horse.

    That was somehow racist so the old flag had to go and just out of random
    good luck, the new flag looks just like the flag of the country the
    state's most controversial member of Congress comes from.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Fri Feb 2 19:45:00 2024
    In article <atropos-99A71C.14312530012024@news.giganews.com>,
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <4eririhdoh9dmaj1p4nmfka4pfh4k76dl8@4ax.com>,
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 11:26:46 -0800, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <upauu5$10nch$2@dont-email.me>,
    Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    ABC News host Jonathan Karl stopped California Democratic Governor Gavin >> Newsom on Sunday after he claimed that President Joe Biden had "the best >> three-year record of any modern American presidency".

    When Karl asked about the historic border crisis that has unfolded under >> the Biden administration and what should happen to the millions of
    illegal aliens that have flooded into the U.S., Newsom dodged giving
    specifics and blamed Republicans.

    The funny thing that I've seen brought up about the economy is that
    while some people say the economy is doing poorly if you ask those
    same people how they are doing the answer tends to be that they are
    doing well.

    Not in my experience. Everyone I know is cutting back on things like
    going out to eat and going to the movies and sports events and concerts
    and vacations because the cost of basic necessities has skyrocketed and
    is only continuing to climb. I met my neighbor on the front walk as she
    was coming back from the grocery store last week. She had one small bag
    in her arms and she said, "Can you believe this one bag now costs more
    than $120?"

    Here's another example:

    https://x.com/realDrewMullins/status/1752850858469892215?s=20

    The answer was $125, FYI.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to moviePig on Fri Feb 2 19:52:51 2024
    In article <70QuN.39252$Wbff.17326@fx37.iad>,
    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2024 2:49 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>> wrote:

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of
    America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    I'm not up on memes, but I'd take that one to mean, if anything,
    "Islamic Minnesota".

    I'd take it to mean exactly what he says: replacing Minnesota's current population and demographic with Somalis.

    Regardless, I don't see it on her TwitterX stream.

    Maybe she took it down after getting (well deserved) blowback for it.

    Regardless, she frequently retweets that guy knowing full well what he
    stands for. Here's another example:

    https://ibb.co/vqBsKjk

    He endorses the Replacement Theory and says things like "There is power
    in numbers. Breed like rats and establish global dominance. Inshallah
    the 21st century will see the great rise of Islam" but we're supposed to pretend it's no big deal and make excuses when a member of Congress
    amplifies his views.

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Sat Feb 3 17:17:59 2024
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
    In article <020220241719545585%nope@noway.com>,
    A Friend <nope@noway.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/24 5:26 AM, A Friend wrote:
    In article <gY2dndI6FYaE0Cb4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com>, BTR1701
    <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >> > >> wrote:

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of >> > >>> America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    I've found the original. Where's the bit that says she's the one who
    retweeted it?

    An outfit called North Shore Trading offers this sticker for $3.95.
    It's for Somalis who love living in Minnesota. (The Somali community
    in the state is one of the largest in the world, outside their home
    country.)

    It's a take on the new Minnesota state flag

    https://ibb.co/NsLwVzC

    which bears an uncanny resemblance to the Somali flag. (Just a
    coincidence, I'm sure.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Somalia

    The blue colors used in background are different. What the hell does the eight-pointed star mean?

    Minnesota felt the need to change its state flag in the first place
    because the old one had a farmer plowing a field waving to an Indian
    riding by on a horse.

    Is he the husband of the gorgeous Hollywood actress whose image used to
    appear on Land O Lakes butter packaging? I'd have put her face on the
    state flag. That says "Minnesota". Or 8 month pregnant Marge Gunderson
    in uniform investigating the corpse.

    That was somehow racist so the old flag had to go and just out of random
    good luck, the new flag looks just like the flag of the country the
    state's most controversial member of Congress comes from.

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  • From moviePig@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 15:52:58 2024
    On 2/2/2024 10:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    In article <70QuN.39252$Wbff.17326@fx37.iad>,
    moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

    On 2/1/2024 2:49 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 31, 2024 at 9:13:47 AM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/30/2024 10:24 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 30, 2024 at 7:16:58 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> >>>>> wrote:

    I can find them (and others) criticizing *alarm* at the "browning of
    America", but I can't find anyone advocating it "out loud".

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:

    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    I'm not up on memes, but I'd take that one to mean, if anything,
    "Islamic Minnesota".

    I'd take it to mean exactly what he says: replacing Minnesota's current population and demographic with Somalis.

    Regardless, I don't see it on her TwitterX stream.

    Maybe she took it down after getting (well deserved) blowback for it.

    Regardless, she frequently retweets that guy knowing full well what he
    stands for. Here's another example:

    https://ibb.co/vqBsKjk

    He endorses the Replacement Theory and says things like "There is power
    in numbers. Breed like rats and establish global dominance. Inshallah
    the 21st century will see the great rise of Islam" but we're supposed to pretend it's no big deal and make excuses when a member of Congress
    amplifies his views.

    Does she amplify *those* particular views?

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Mon Feb 5 04:30:41 2024
    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:
    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    Why hasn't she been expelled from Congress and deported already?

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From A Friend@21:1/5 to weberm@polaris.net on Mon Feb 5 07:54:41 2024
    In article <upqkmk$9los$2@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous
    <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

    atropos@mac.com wrote:

    Ilhan Omar just retweeted this:
    https://ibb.co/QYcKynn

    Why hasn't she been expelled from Congress and deported already?


    Because this isn't Ubistan and we have laws and a Constitution?

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 5 14:12:32 2024
    On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 15:52:58 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
    wrote:

    I'd take it to mean exactly what he says: replacing Minnesota's current
    population and demographic with Somalis.

    My Minnesota born paternal grandfather would be spinning in his grave
    fast enough to generate enough power to power Minneapolis with plenty
    left over for his home town of Mankato.(Which is in SE Minnesota and
    is today mostly a college town)

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