• Re: Marxist Calif senator wants to regulate the speed in your cars

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to Rich on Tue Jan 30 18:17:09 2024
    On 2024-01-30 04:25:21 +0000, Rich said:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the ability to speed
    kept me OUT of accidents, in the one case involving an 18 wheel truck
    that perceived a curb lane as empty when it wasn't.
    REDDING, CA. — Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco introduced a new
    bill that would physically stop cars from speeding over 10 miles over
    the speed limit. It would require any new car or truck made or sold in
    the state in 2027 or later to have special technology installed in the
    car called "speed governors."2 days ago

    They should have been installed and untamperable about 100 years ago!!

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Your Name on Mon Jan 29 23:00:22 2024
    In article <upa0ol$s64m$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-30 04:25:21 +0000, Rich said:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the ability to speed
    kept me OUT of accidents, in the one case involving an 18 wheel truck
    that perceived a curb lane as empty when it wasn't.

    REDDING, CA. — Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco introduced a new bill that would physically stop cars from speeding over 10 miles over
    the speed limit. It would require any new car or truck made or sold in
    the state in 2027 or later to have special technology installed in the
    car called "speed governors."2 days ago

    They should have been installed and untamperable about 100 years ago!!

    100 years ago there was the technology. How would your car in 1935 have
    been able to tell what the different speed limits were on all the
    different roads in order to consistently limit your speed to 10 above no
    matter where you were?

    As it is, this system will be easy to tamper with: a simple GPS jammer
    ($35 on Amazon) will block the ability of your car to tell where it is
    and it won't know the corresponding speed limit. And before you say,
    well, then your car will just be programmed to turn off or limit you to
    the lowest speed or whatever, keep in mind that even in 2024, there are
    vast swaths of the country where there's no commercial GPS coverage, so
    if you program cars to shut down if they can't find a signal, good luck
    driving across the Mojave Desert. And if it defaults to the lowest
    speed, you'll be dropping people on 85mph highways down to 25 and
    creating the very safety issues you claim to want to avoid with these
    things.

    Of course the best way around this mandate will be to just go to Nevada
    or Arizona and buy your car there where there is no mandate and drive it
    back to California.

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  • From Rhino@21:1/5 to atropos@mac.com on Tue Jan 30 10:22:58 2024
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 23:00:22 -0800
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Subject: Re: Marxist Calif senator wants to regulate the speed in
    your cars Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 23:00:22 -0800
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    In article <upa0ol$s64m$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-30 04:25:21 +0000, Rich said:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the ability to
    speed kept me OUT of accidents, in the one case involving an 18
    wheel truck that perceived a curb lane as empty when it wasn't.

    REDDING, CA. — Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco introduced
    a new bill that would physically stop cars from speeding over 10
    miles over the speed limit. It would require any new car or truck
    made or sold in the state in 2027 or later to have special
    technology installed in the car called "speed governors."2 days
    ago

    They should have been installed and untamperable about 100 years
    ago!!

    100 years ago there was the technology. How would your car in 1935
    have been able to tell what the different speed limits were on all
    the different roads in order to consistently limit your speed to 10
    above no matter where you were?

    As it is, this system will be easy to tamper with: a simple GPS
    jammer

    The other thing that no one in this thread has mentioned is that
    governors on engines have been around a LONG time and are widely used
    in commercial vehicles. I remember when I was in high school and had a
    summer job delivering large items for Sears that the trucks we used
    had governors on them to keep them from going more than 60 mph (Canada
    hadn't gone metric yet). More recently, our school buses have governors
    to keep them from doing more than 110 kph (about 65 mph).

    This bozo in California simply means to do the same thing on personal
    vehicles. He's also using newer tech so that instead of the governor
    having a single fixed maximum speed, the maximum speed varies with the
    speed limit.

    I think the people who operate school buses would LOVE to have
    technology like this. We were constantly being admonished to never go
    more than 10 kph over the limit - and then not exceed the limit at all
    with my second employer - but the governors on the school buses only accomplished that in areas with the highest speed limits. There was
    nothing to keep you from speeding on a regular city street except fear
    of speeding tickets and getting reamed by your boss.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Tue Jan 30 10:36:18 2024
    In article <upa0ol$s64m$1@dont-email.me>, YourName@YourISP.com wrote:
    On 2024-01-30 04:25:21 +0000, Rich said:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the ability to speed
    kept me OUT of accidents, in the one case involving an 18 wheel truck
    that perceived a curb lane as empty when it wasn't.
    REDDING, CA. — Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco introduced a new
    bill that would physically stop cars from speeding over 10 miles over
    the speed limit. It would require any new car or truck made or sold in
    the state in 2027 or later to have special technology installed in the
    car called "speed governors."2 days ago

    They should have been installed and untamperable about 100 years ago!!


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    Slow drivers cause more accidents than fast ones.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Nyssa@21:1/5 to Rhino on Tue Jan 30 15:39:56 2024
    Rhino wrote:

    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 23:00:22 -0800
    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    Subject: Re: Marxist Calif senator wants to regulate the
    speed in your cars Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 23:00:22 -0800
    User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X)
    Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv

    In article <upa0ol$s64m$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

    On 2024-01-30 04:25:21 +0000, Rich said:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the
    ability to speed kept me OUT of accidents, in the one
    case involving an 18 wheel truck that perceived a
    curb lane as empty when it wasn't.

    REDDING, CA. ?? Senator Scott Wiener of San
    Francisco introduced a new bill that would physically
    stop cars from speeding over 10 miles over the speed
    limit. It would require any new car or truck made or
    sold in the state in 2027 or later to have special
    technology installed in the car called "speed
    governors."2 days ago

    They should have been installed and untamperable about
    100 years ago!!

    100 years ago there was the technology. How would your
    car in 1935 have been able to tell what the different
    speed limits were on all the different roads in order to
    consistently limit your speed to 10 above no matter where
    you were?

    As it is, this system will be easy to tamper with: a
    simple GPS jammer

    The other thing that no one in this thread has mentioned
    is that governors on engines have been around a LONG time
    and are widely used in commercial vehicles. I remember
    when I was in high school and had a summer job delivering
    large items for Sears that the trucks we used had
    governors on them to keep them from going more than 60 mph
    (Canada hadn't gone metric yet). More recently, our school
    buses have governors to keep them from doing more than 110
    kph (about 65 mph).

    This bozo in California simply means to do the same thing
    on personal vehicles. He's also using newer tech so that
    instead of the governor having a single fixed maximum
    speed, the maximum speed varies with the speed limit.

    I think the people who operate school buses would LOVE to
    have technology like this. We were constantly being
    admonished to never go more than 10 kph over the limit -
    and then not exceed the limit at all with my second
    employer - but the governors on the school buses only
    accomplished that in areas with the highest speed limits.
    There was nothing to keep you from speeding on a regular
    city street except fear of speeding tickets and getting
    reamed by your boss.

    Governors on private vehicles date back to WWII when
    many vehicles had them installed to keep their speed
    down, usually to 35mph. That was felt to be the "best"
    speed for conserving gasoline which was rationed.

    One factoid about the wartime rationing of gas that
    is often overlooked is that rubber for tires was in
    even shorter supply than gasoline and the rationing
    of gasoline (domestically produced) was more plentiful
    than rubber (imported).

    Nyssa, who still has a couple of old ration coupons
    in a folder somewhere that her pop saved from WWII

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  • From A Friend@21:1/5 to Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net on Tue Jan 30 18:24:41 2024
    In article <upbmoj$14s1b$1@dont-email.me>, Nyssa
    <Nyssa@LogicalInsight.net> wrote:

    One factoid about the wartime rationing of gas that
    is often overlooked is that rubber for tires was in
    even shorter supply than gasoline and the rationing
    of gasoline (domestically produced) was more plentiful
    than rubber (imported).

    Nyssa, who still has a couple of old ration coupons
    in a folder somewhere that her pop saved from WWII


    The problem with gasoline wasn't that we didn't have enough for
    domestic use, but that we didn't have a way to truck it around to
    retail outlets. My old man said that if you knew what you were doing,
    you could always find rationed goods in plentiful supply without any
    need to hand over coupons.

    In other words, make friends with the butcher.

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  • From BTR1701@21:1/5 to Rich on Wed Jan 31 03:20:11 2024
    On Jan 29, 2024 at 8:25:21 PM PST, "Rich" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the ability to speed kept me OUT of accidents, in the one case involving an 18 wheel truck that perceived a curb lane as empty when it wasn't.

    REDDING, CA. — Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco introduced a new bill that would physically stop cars from speeding over 10 miles over the speed limit. It would require any new car or truck made or sold in the state in 2027 or later to have special technology installed in the car called "speed governors."2 days ago

    This guy, Wiener, is one of the worst pathogens in California.

    Almost every bad idea that comes out of the wretched hive of scum and villainy known as the State Assembly is either authored by him or endorsed by him.

    The guy's a sexual pervert himself. He's a regular attendee at both the Folsom Street Fair and the Up Your Alley Fair in San Francisco, where several blocks are closed down so gay guys can parade around naked and fellate and sodomize each other in public. Scotty never misses one:

    https://ibb.co/2dRmmfZ

    When he was a San Francisco lawmaker, Wiener crusaded for the right of weirdos to walk around naked on the public streets. He wanted to punish cafes and restaurants that banned the naked from entering their businesses.

    Wiener authored a bill that makes it legal for an adult to have sex with a minor so long as he/she is not more than 10 years older than the minor. That means a 23-year-old could fuck a 13-year-old and that's not a crime.

    Wiener authored SB1e32, which allows male prisoners in California's penitentiaries to be transferred to female prisons merely by identifying as female. No medical history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria necessary. No hormone treatments necessary. No history of desiring to be a woman necessary. No attempt to present as female necessary. Just raise your hand, say "I'm a woman, get me out of here" and the state is now required to put the guy in a women's facility. This has resulted in dozens of rapes and sexual assaults by male prisoners with criminal histories of rape and sex abuse on a literally captive female population.

    Scott Wiener seems to want to regulate everything except perverted adult
    males. I wonder why…

    Wiener introduced and passed a bill that-- after being abolished 150 years ago-- would have made racial discrimination the law of the state again. Thankfully that was defeated by referendum. (Note: the racial discrimination Wiener wanted to legalize was discrimination against white people, not black people.)

    Wiener was the co-author of the bill that repealed the section of the penal code that made loitering for purposes of prostitution a crime. Now every major California city-- in L.A., it's South Figueroa Street-- has dozens or hundreds of young women, many obviously underage, literally standing in the street half-naked, twerking and approaching cars offering their wares. Entire neighborhoods have been destroyed by this. Schools have had to black out the windows in their classrooms so the kids aren't treated to a sex show every day on the streets outside.

    Wiener co-signed a bill that would strip parents of their parental rights if they refuse to go along with trooning their child. If the school or some other government bureaucrat thinks your boy should be a girl and you say no, you can lose your parental rights.

    Wiener authored the bill that repealed the penal code offense that made it a crime to knowingly have unprotected sex with someone while HIV+ without informing their partner first. Scott Wiener is like "Yeah, it should be legal to give people AIDS but speeding?!? Absolutely not!"

    Wiener wants to force a speed governor in your car-- in the name of (he says) road safety-- but opposes police enforcement of street takeovers, over-tinted windows, use of fake license plates, driving with no plates at all, etc.
    Wiener also voted in favor of a bill that removed jaywalking as an offense under California law. Apparently when it comes to road safety Wiener only
    cares about it if it doesn't result in black people getting arrested.

    Scott Weiner is everything wrong with California in a single person. He is the Bolshevik that comes to your house in the dead of night and kills you. He should be fired from a cannon into San Francisco Bay.

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  • From trotsky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 3 04:43:19 2024
    On 1/30/24 9:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
    On Jan 29, 2024 at 8:25:21 PM PST, "Rich" <rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

    I can think of at least two occasions when having the ability to speed kept >> me OUT of accidents, in the one case involving an 18 wheel truck that
    perceived a curb lane as empty when it wasn't.

    REDDING, CA. — Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco introduced a new bill >> that would physically stop cars from speeding over 10 miles over the speed >> limit. It would require any new car or truck made or sold in the state in
    2027 or later to have special technology installed in the car called "speed >> governors."2 days ago

    This guy, Wiener, is one of the worst pathogens in California.

    Almost every bad idea that comes out of the wretched hive of scum and villainy
    known as the State Assembly is either authored by him or endorsed by him.

    The guy's a sexual pervert himself. He's a regular attendee at both the Folsom
    Street Fair and the Up Your Alley Fair in San Francisco, where several blocks are closed down so gay guys can parade around naked and fellate and sodomize each other in public. Scotty never misses one:


    Weird how you seem to know all the gory details though.


    https://ibb.co/2dRmmfZ


    Well that's weird too, those pic don't have nudity, fellatio or
    sodomizing in either one of them. If you're posting that as "evidence"
    it's evidence that you were lying. How fucked in the head are you? Are
    you on fucked in the head medication? If not you probably should be.



    When he was a San Francisco lawmaker, Wiener crusaded for the right of weirdos
    to walk around naked on the public streets. He wanted to punish cafes and restaurants that banned the naked from entering their businesses.

    Wiener authored a bill that makes it legal for an adult to have sex with a minor so long as he/she is not more than 10 years older than the minor. That means a 23-year-old could fuck a 13-year-old and that's not a crime.


    Sure sounds like something Matt Gaetz would like to get going in
    Florida, don't it.


    Wiener authored SB1e32, which allows male prisoners in California's penitentiaries to be transferred to female prisons merely by identifying as female. No medical history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria necessary.


    Wait, what? Are you admitting gender dysphoria is a thing, or have you
    tripped over your own petard again?


    No
    hormone treatments necessary. No history of desiring to be a woman necessary. No attempt to present as female necessary. Just raise your hand, say "I'm a woman, get me out of here" and the state is now required to put the guy in a women's facility. This has resulted in dozens of rapes and sexual assaults by male prisoners with criminal histories of rape and sex abuse on a literally captive female population.


    Again, weird--you'd think from what you said previously he'd all about
    the sodomizing in male prisons. Change your diaper and speak properly.


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