Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out squatters. After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, and if they have the balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked them out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own the home. In the meantime, while the court case drags on for six months or more, the squatters have to find somewhere else to live.

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On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out squatters. After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, and if they have the
balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked them out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own the home. In the
meantime, while the court case drags on for six months or more, the squatters have to find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

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In article <OGUtN.301692$c3Ea.8491@fx10.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out squatters. After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk
in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, and if they have the balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked
the intruders out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess
the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to
kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own the home. In the meantime, while the court case drags on for six months
or more, the squatters have to find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

Still an absolutely ridiculous law. The idea that you can't leave your
house for as little as a month without having to worry that a bunch of
vagrants or thieves might break in and then become LEGAL RESIDENTS is appalling. Especially if they're illegal aliens who don't even have a
legal right to be in the country, let alone your home.

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:22:53 -0500, moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com>
wrote:

On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for three >> weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company told
him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New York
law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out squatters.
After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants in New York. >>
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the driveway,
people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk in like you own >> the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, and if they have the
balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked them >> out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess the >> premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to kick *you*
out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own the home. In the
meantime, while the court case drags on for six months or more, the squatters
have to find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

Probably because he didn't know what to do when he found them in his
home and they wouldn't leave. My approach would have been to get out
some bear spray and let it fly. My guess is they will vacate the
premises quickly enough.

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 13:53:00 -0800
BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

In article <OGUtN.301692$c3Ea.8491@fx10.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of
town for three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the
company told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his
house. New York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off
utilities or locking out squatters. After 30 days, unwanted
squatters become classified as tenants in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in
the driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock.
You walk in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them
out at gunpoint, and if they have the balls to call the cops on
you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I
kicked the intruders out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now
possess the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to
court to sue to kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do
since you actually do own the home. In the meantime, while the
court case drags on for six months or more, the squatters have to
find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

Still an absolutely ridiculous law. The idea that you can't leave
your house for as little as a month without having to worry that a
bunch of vagrants or thieves might break in and then become LEGAL
RESIDENTS is appalling. Especially if they're illegal aliens who
don't even have a legal right to be in the country, let alone your
home.

If this is the same guy I'm thinking of, he may well incorporate this
incident in his next project somehow:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0211523/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_0_nm_4_q_Jean%2520de%2520Segonzac

The Jean de Segonzac in IMDB has directed episodes of a lot of shows
we've all seen and appears to still be active. I *assume* this is the
same guy who posted this story on X.

--
Rhino

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On 1/29/2024 4:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

In article <OGUtN.301692$c3Ea.8491@fx10.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for
three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company >>> told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New >>> York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out
squatters. After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants >>> in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the
driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk
in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, >>> and if they have the balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked
the intruders out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess
the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to
kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own >>> the home. In the meantime, while the court case drags on for six months
or more, the squatters have to find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

Still an absolutely ridiculous law. The idea that you can't leave your
house for as little as a month without having to worry that a bunch of vagrants or thieves might break in and then become LEGAL RESIDENTS is appalling. Especially if they're illegal aliens who don't even have a
legal right to be in the country, let alone your home.

It'd be interesting to hear the philosophy underlying such laws, and to
explore it to its logical extreme.

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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for three >weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company told >him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New York >law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out squatters. >After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

Here's a Web on laws affecting property management.

https://ipropertymanagement.com/laws/new-york-squatters-rights

They were committing criminal trespass but not squatting.

Squatting is when a person finds an abandoned or vacant property
and moves in without discussing it with the property owner. It
sounds like breaking and entering - except sometimes it is
legal.

A squatter is someone who is occupying a foreclosed, abandoned,
or unoccupied building (usually residential) or area of land
without the lawful permission of the owner.

Even though the owner was travelling, he intended to return. He had not abandoned the property. He had not vacated the property. The home was
not unoccupied.

The water bill makes no sense. I doubt he would have had the water shut
off, so yeah, that he'd gotten a bill was not unexpected, just the
amount of water being consumed. As the bill was in his name, that's an additional crime. The water being used was a theft.

None of this is "civil". They were criminal trespassers and not
squatting and therefore could not be upgraded to tenants on the 30th
day. If they'd been there for a month and a half without the owner's
knowledge, they still weren't squatting as the owner had not abandoned
the property and the home wasn't vacant. No eviction would have been
required.

The police could have made arrests of all of them.

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the driveway, >people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk in like you own >the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, and if they have the >balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked them >out."

What would the cops have done to the owner? The people on his property
without authorized were committing the crimes, not the owner.

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess the >premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to kick *you* >out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own the home. In the >meantime, while the court case drags on for six months or more, the squatters >have to find somewhere else to live.

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On Jan 29, 2024 at 3:00:36 PM PST, "moviePig" <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

On 1/29/2024 4:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

In article <OGUtN.301692$c3Ea.8491@fx10.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for >>>> three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company >>>> told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New >>>> York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out >>>> squatters. After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants >>>> in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the
driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk >>>> in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, >>>> and if they have the balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked >>>> the intruders out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess >>>> the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to >>>> kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own >>>> the home. In the meantime, while the court case drags on for six months >>>> or more, the squatters have to find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

Still an absolutely ridiculous law. The idea that you can't leave your
house for as little as a month without having to worry that a bunch of
vagrants or thieves might break in and then become LEGAL RESIDENTS is
appalling. Especially if they're illegal aliens who don't even have a
legal right to be in the country, let alone your home.

It'd be interesting to hear the philosophy underlying such laws, and to explore it to its logical extreme.

https://ibb.co/m4Cyg3N

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On 1/29/24 3:53 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

In article <OGUtN.301692$c3Ea.8491@fx10.iad>,
moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:

On 1/29/2024 2:09 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

Jean de Segonzac lives in Bellport, New York, and went out of town for
three weeks.

Then he got a water bill. When called to turn off the water, the company >>> told him that he couldn't.

Turns out, squatters-- recent "migrants"-- had moved into his house. New >>> York law forbids a homeowner from shutting off utilities or locking out
squatters. After 30 days, unwanted squatters become classified as tenants >>> in New York.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1750494443369591282?s=20

When you come home and suspect this has happened by the cars in the
driveway, people moving around inside, etc., you don't knock. You walk
in like you own the place ('cause you do) and order them out at gunpoint, >>> and if they have the balls to call the cops on you, plead ignorance.

"I just came home to my own house and found people in it, so I kicked
the intruders out."

Since possession of the premises is key in these cases, you now possess
the premises and it'll be up to the squatters to go to court to sue to
kick *you* out, which they won't be able to do since you actually do own >>> the home. In the meantime, while the court case drags on for six months
or more, the squatters have to find somewhere else to live.

I wonder how his 3 weeks (21 days) incurred a 30-days statute.

Still an absolutely ridiculous law. The idea that you can't leave your
house for as little as a month without having to worry that a bunch of vagrants or thieves might break in and then become LEGAL RESIDENTS is appalling. Especially if they're illegal aliens who don't even have a
legal right to be in the country, let alone your home.

Besides absolutely nothing what kind of activism have you done about
this? You're too busy being an anonyshit to say something to your Congressperson right?

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