• Christmas Day Ratings (2023)

    From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 27 16:29:36 2023
    WTF has happened to Coronation Street? The Christmas Day episode(s)
    didn't even make the top ten in the official BARB ratings. Doctor Who
    got twice as many viewers. (How things have changed there!) But it
    was nice to see Millie Gibson hit the ground running as Ruby Sunday...

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the writing,
    changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so annoying that
    people would rather watch paint dry?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67821839

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Thu Dec 28 10:06:41 2023
    On 27/12/2023 15:29, Blueshirt wrote:
    WTF has happened to Coronation Street? The Christmas Day episode(s)
    didn't even make the top ten in the official BARB ratings. Doctor Who
    got twice as many viewers. (How things have changed there!) But it
    was nice to see Millie Gibson hit the ground running as Ruby Sunday...

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the writing,
    changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so annoying that
    people would rather watch paint dry?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67821839

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.



    For some reason they put on a short half hour episode with no great predictions of murder and mayhem, I don't suppose that helped a lot. It seems to be a slow burn week instead.

    There again the numbers for those who are in the top 10 are rmarkably low cmpared with the past. Habits have changed and I have only watched tv shows from
    Christmas day, recorded, or repeats, or catch ups, for years. The only shows in that top 10 I have actually seen are the 1% Club and The Wheel. Corrie is the only other thing from the day I have seen at all.
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    kat
    >^..^<

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 28 08:40:38 2023
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 10:06:41 +0000, kat <littlelionne@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 27/12/2023 15:29, Blueshirt wrote:
    WTF has happened to Coronation Street? The Christmas Day episode(s)
    didn't even make the top ten in the official BARB ratings. Doctor Who
    got twice as many viewers. (How things have changed there!) But it
    was nice to see Millie Gibson hit the ground running as Ruby Sunday...

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the writing,
    changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so annoying that
    people would rather watch paint dry?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67821839

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.



    For some reason they put on a short half hour episode with no great predictions
    of murder and mayhem, I don't suppose that helped a lot. It seems to be a slow >burn week instead.

    There again the numbers for those who are in the top 10 are rmarkably low >cmpared with the past. Habits have changed and I have only watched tv shows from
    Christmas day, recorded, or repeats, or catch ups, for years. The only shows in
    that top 10 I have actually seen are the 1% Club and The Wheel. Corrie is the >only other thing from the day I have seen at all.

    I think you're correct about habits changing affecting Corrie and
    other programmes. I can't stand ads so choose to watch the episodes
    in arrears when it suits me, without the ads. Time was if you missed
    an episode, you missed it.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to kat on Thu Dec 28 14:32:46 2023
    kat wrote:

    On 27/12/2023 15:29, Blueshirt wrote:

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the
    writing, changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so
    annoying that people would rather watch paint dry?

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.

    For some reason they put on a short half hour episode with no great predictions of murder and mayhem, I don't suppose that helped a
    lot. It seems to be a slow burn week instead.

    In all fairness, people must get tired of murder and mayhem in the
    soaps at Christmas... it used to be fun... but maybe with it all
    going on in the real world it loses its appeal?

    There again the numbers for those who are in the top 10 are
    rmarkably low cmpared with the past. Habits have changed and I have
    only watched tv shows from Christmas day, recorded, or repeats, or
    catch ups, for years.

    Yes, streaming and time-shifted viewing has played a big part in the
    overall ratings decline. You'd still expect a big hitter like
    Coronation Street to make the top ten though.

    I was being facetious yesterday but I seriously think the really good characters are not there like they were in the days of Barlow and
    Baldwin (not forgetting Deirdre of course), Walker and Turpin, Stan
    and Eddie, Kevin and Sally, Gail and... plenty of other men. I think
    today's residents of the Street pale in comparison...

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Sun Dec 31 13:04:15 2023
    On 28/12/2023 12:40, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 10:06:41 +0000, kat <littlelionne@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 27/12/2023 15:29, Blueshirt wrote:
    WTF has happened to Coronation Street? The Christmas Day episode(s)
    didn't even make the top ten in the official BARB ratings. Doctor Who
    got twice as many viewers. (How things have changed there!) But it
    was nice to see Millie Gibson hit the ground running as Ruby Sunday...

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the writing,
    changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so annoying that
    people would rather watch paint dry?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67821839

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.



    For some reason they put on a short half hour episode with no great predictions
    of murder and mayhem, I don't suppose that helped a lot. It seems to be a slow
    burn week instead.

    There again the numbers for those who are in the top 10 are rmarkably low
    cmpared with the past. Habits have changed and I have only watched tv shows from
    Christmas day, recorded, or repeats, or catch ups, for years. The only shows in
    that top 10 I have actually seen are the 1% Club and The Wheel. Corrie is the
    only other thing from the day I have seen at all.

    I think you're correct about habits changing affecting Corrie and
    other programmes. I can't stand ads so choose to watch the episodes
    in arrears when it suits me, without the ads. Time was if you missed
    an episode, you missed it.

    I do that with just about every thing I watch these days, even the shows without
    ads I record and watch when it suits me. The series link thing helps when they moe stuff about so it really is simpler!

    --
    kat
    >^..^<

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 31 13:12:06 2023
    On 28/12/2023 13:32, Blueshirt wrote:
    kat wrote:

    On 27/12/2023 15:29, Blueshirt wrote:

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the
    writing, changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so
    annoying that people would rather watch paint dry?

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.

    For some reason they put on a short half hour episode with no great
    predictions of murder and mayhem, I don't suppose that helped a
    lot. It seems to be a slow burn week instead.

    In all fairness, people must get tired of murder and mayhem in the
    soaps at Christmas... it used to be fun... but maybe with it all
    going on in the real world it loses its appeal?

    I think they really would have tired of any more murder this year, Corrie has had enough.


    There again the numbers for those who are in the top 10 are
    rmarkably low cmpared with the past. Habits have changed and I have
    only watched tv shows from Christmas day, recorded, or repeats, or
    catch ups, for years.

    Yes, streaming and time-shifted viewing has played a big part in the
    overall ratings decline. You'd still expect a big hitter like
    Coronation Street to make the top ten though.

    I agree, but it really was low key that day. I think we all knew the drama that we were/are to get was coming later.

    I was being facetious yesterday but I seriously think the really good characters are not there like they were in the days of Barlow and
    Baldwin (not forgetting Deirdre of course), Walker and Turpin, Stan
    and Eddie, Kevin and Sally, Gail and... plenty of other men. I think
    today's residents of the Street pale in comparison...

    Some of them are still there! But some of the writing for them leaves something
    to be desired. On the other hand I do like Sally with Tim and while I think newer characters always take a bit of getting used to, some could have potential. Trouble is the world has changed and people act diferently in real life too.




    --
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    >^..^<

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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 31 11:09:34 2023
    On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 13:12:06 +0000, kat <littlelionne@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 13:32, Blueshirt wrote:
    kat wrote:

    On 27/12/2023 15:29, Blueshirt wrote:

    Why the decline of Corrie though? Is it the characters, the
    writing, changing viewing habits... or is Peter Barlow just so
    annoying that people would rather watch paint dry?

    Hilda and Stan will be turning in their grave.

    For some reason they put on a short half hour episode with no great
    predictions of murder and mayhem, I don't suppose that helped a
    lot. It seems to be a slow burn week instead.

    In all fairness, people must get tired of murder and mayhem in the
    soaps at Christmas... it used to be fun... but maybe with it all
    going on in the real world it loses its appeal?

    I think they really would have tired of any more murder this year, Corrie has >had enough.


    There again the numbers for those who are in the top 10 are
    rmarkably low cmpared with the past. Habits have changed and I have
    only watched tv shows from Christmas day, recorded, or repeats, or
    catch ups, for years.

    Yes, streaming and time-shifted viewing has played a big part in the
    overall ratings decline. You'd still expect a big hitter like
    Coronation Street to make the top ten though.

    I agree, but it really was low key that day. I think we all knew the drama that
    we were/are to get was coming later.

    I was being facetious yesterday but I seriously think the really good
    characters are not there like they were in the days of Barlow and
    Baldwin (not forgetting Deirdre of course), Walker and Turpin, Stan
    and Eddie, Kevin and Sally, Gail and... plenty of other men. I think
    today's residents of the Street pale in comparison...

    Some of them are still there! But some of the writing for them leaves something
    to be desired. On the other hand I do like Sally with Tim and while I think >newer characters always take a bit of getting used to, some could have >potential. Trouble is the world has changed and people act diferently in real >life too.



    Agreed

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  • From Calvin Henry-Cotnam@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 9 08:50:46 2024
    kat (littlelionne@hotmail.com) said...
    On 28/12/2023 12:40, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I think you're correct about habits changing affecting Corrie and
    other programmes. I can't stand ads so choose to watch the episodes
    in arrears when it suits me, without the ads. Time was if you missed
    an episode, you missed it.

    I do that with just about every thing I watch these days, even the shows >without ads I record and watch when it suits me. The series link thing
    helps when they moe stuff about so it really is simpler!

    We do that so much now that when we actually watch something that
    is being broadcast at the time, we keep reaching for the 'skip'
    button on the remote when the ads come on. ;-)

    If I don't reach for the remote, my wife asks why I'm not skipping
    the ads!

    The nice thing is that if something interrupts what we are watching
    (phone call, someone at the door, etc.), we can pause the live feed
    and resume it when the interruption is done. Then, we can skip ads
    while watching the rest of the programme - at least until we have
    caught up with the broadcast. ;-)

    --
    Calvin Henry-Cotnam
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    are imaginable, but not reasonably foreseeable"
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  • From lucretia@florence.it@21:1/5 to calvin@remove.daxack.ca on Tue Jan 9 15:33:23 2024
    On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 08:50:46 -0500, Calvin Henry-Cotnam <calvin@remove.daxack.ca> wrote:

    kat (littlelionne@hotmail.com) said...
    On 28/12/2023 12:40, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I think you're correct about habits changing affecting Corrie and
    other programmes. I can't stand ads so choose to watch the episodes
    in arrears when it suits me, without the ads. Time was if you missed
    an episode, you missed it.

    I do that with just about every thing I watch these days, even the shows >>without ads I record and watch when it suits me. The series link thing >>helps when they moe stuff about so it really is simpler!

    We do that so much now that when we actually watch something that
    is being broadcast at the time, we keep reaching for the 'skip'
    button on the remote when the ads come on. ;-)

    If I don't reach for the remote, my wife asks why I'm not skipping
    the ads!

    The nice thing is that if something interrupts what we are watching
    (phone call, someone at the door, etc.), we can pause the live feed
    and resume it when the interruption is done. Then, we can skip ads
    while watching the rest of the programme - at least until we have
    caught up with the broadcast. ;-)

    I meet so many people who seem to feel I am too hyper about ads?? I
    really hate them, especially what some of them say.

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to Calvin Henry-Cotnam on Wed Jan 10 10:34:43 2024
    On 09/01/2024 13:50, Calvin Henry-Cotnam wrote:
    kat (littlelionne@hotmail.com) said...
    On 28/12/2023 12:40, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I think you're correct about habits changing affecting Corrie and
    other programmes. I can't stand ads so choose to watch the episodes
    in arrears when it suits me, without the ads. Time was if you missed
    an episode, you missed it.

    I do that with just about every thing I watch these days, even the shows
    without ads I record and watch when it suits me. The series link thing
    helps when they moe stuff about so it really is simpler!

    We do that so much now that when we actually watch something that
    is being broadcast at the time, we keep reaching for the 'skip'
    button on the remote when the ads come on. ;-)

    If I don't reach for the remote, my wife asks why I'm not skipping
    the ads!

    The nice thing is that if something interrupts what we are watching
    (phone call, someone at the door, etc.), we can pause the live feed
    and resume it when the interruption is done. Then, we can skip ads
    while watching the rest of the programme - at least until we have
    caught up with the broadcast. ;-)


    Sometimes I set a show to record and we can start a bit late, and then catch up by the end. The pause function also comes in handy for interruptions though. I
    don't have an actual "skip" button, we fast forward through them.
    --
    kat
    >^..^<

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to lucretia@florence.it on Wed Jan 10 10:39:23 2024
    On 09/01/2024 19:33, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
    On Tue, 09 Jan 2024 08:50:46 -0500, Calvin Henry-Cotnam <calvin@remove.daxack.ca> wrote:

    kat (littlelionne@hotmail.com) said...
    On 28/12/2023 12:40, lucretia@florence.it wrote:

    I think you're correct about habits changing affecting Corrie and
    other programmes. I can't stand ads so choose to watch the episodes
    in arrears when it suits me, without the ads. Time was if you missed
    an episode, you missed it.

    I do that with just about every thing I watch these days, even the shows >>> without ads I record and watch when it suits me. The series link thing
    helps when they moe stuff about so it really is simpler!

    We do that so much now that when we actually watch something that
    is being broadcast at the time, we keep reaching for the 'skip'
    button on the remote when the ads come on. ;-)

    If I don't reach for the remote, my wife asks why I'm not skipping
    the ads!

    The nice thing is that if something interrupts what we are watching
    (phone call, someone at the door, etc.), we can pause the live feed
    and resume it when the interruption is done. Then, we can skip ads
    while watching the rest of the programme - at least until we have
    caught up with the broadcast. ;-)

    I meet so many people who seem to feel I am too hyper about ads?? I
    really hate them, especially what some of them say.

    I find many of them incredibly boring these days as well. Back in the day they had humour and catchy songs and phrases that I still recall, we had an entire serial over several years about a jar of coffee.

    Christmas started when Woolworths filled a whole ad break. We still get some good ones at Christmas but John lewis with the Venus Flytrap this year was weird. I can only thank Aldi for Kevin the Carrot. We wait every year now to see what he has been up to and which book or movie he is spoofing.:-)

    --
    kat
    >^..^<

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  • From Calvin Henry-Cotnam@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 12 23:17:48 2024
    kat (littlelionne@hotmail.com) said...
    Sometimes I set a show to record and we can start a bit late, and then
    catch up by the end. The pause function also comes in handy for >interruptions though. I don't have an actual "skip" button, we fast
    forward through them.

    Funny - most systems have had "skip ahead" and "skip back" buttons for
    quite some time now - they usually have circular arrows on them:
    clockwise for ahead and anti-clockwise for back. They don't skip the
    commercial break, but a set number of seconds. Ours had the forward
    set or 30 seconds and the back 10 seconds. We can change the time for
    each, but find those settings work best for commercial skipping since commercials are usually 30 seconds long.


    --
    Calvin Henry-Cotnam
    "Unusual or extreme reactions to events caused by negligence
    are imaginable, but not reasonably foreseeable"
    - Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin, May 2008

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  • From kat@21:1/5 to Calvin Henry-Cotnam on Tue Feb 13 20:38:58 2024
    On 13/02/2024 04:17, Calvin Henry-Cotnam wrote:
    kat (littlelionne@hotmail.com) said...
    Sometimes I set a show to record and we can start a bit late, and then
    catch up by the end. The pause function also comes in handy for
    interruptions though. I don't have an actual "skip" button, we fast
    forward through them.

    Funny - most systems have had "skip ahead" and "skip back" buttons for
    quite some time now - they usually have circular arrows on them:
    clockwise for ahead and anti-clockwise for back. They don't skip the commercial break, but a set number of seconds. Ours had the forward
    set or 30 seconds and the back 10 seconds. We can change the time for
    each, but find those settings work best for commercial skipping since commercials are usually 30 seconds long.



    Mine has a Fast Forward ( or back) with several different rates of speed, so I "watch" the ads at +30. And that applies to our Sky box and our Virgin box. We actually use Sky, but have Virgin cable for broadband and it came with a basic tv box. Neither has a button to skip a number of seconds.
    --
    kat
    >^..^<

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