• JOHN CARPENTER'S THE THING (film retrospective by Mark R. Leeper)

    From Mark Leeper@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 5 08:21:32 2022
    June 25 is the fortieth anniversary of the release of JOHN
    CARPENTER'S THE THING (not to be confused with THE THING FROM
    ANOTHER WORLd (1951) or THE THING (2011)). Given that it is forty
    years old, and based on a story that is about seventy-five years
    old, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS! Briefly, this is a logic puzzle mixed
    with an alien invasion story.

    I started by saying, "My reaction to the opening of this film was
    different from other people's. This film is based on "Who Goes
    There?" by John W. Campbell, Jr., opens with a helicopter chasing a
    dog across a large snowy field. Now I generally like dogs and with
    this one my usual reaction would have been rooting for the dog but
    being very familiar with the story, my reaction was "Get that
    sucker!"

    For that matter, the Norwegian spoken by the pilot at the beginning
    of the film gives away the plot, shouting that the dog isn't really
    a dog, it's some sort of thing imitating a dog.

    While this was not exactly John Carpenter's breakthrough film--it
    came after after DARK STAR, ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13, HALLOWEEN, and
    ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK--but it may well be his best film. However,
    it was a commercial and critical flop at the time, and only over
    the years has its gained the stature that it has. (It scores 8.2
    out of 10 on the IMDB, and 83% on Rotten Tomatoes.)

    The original story, and the first movie, were set in the Arctic,
    but this movie is moved to Antarctica. When the story was written,
    and the first movie made, permanent bases were fairly common in the
    Arctic, but not in Antarctica. Moving it to Antarctica gives it
    some hints of H. P. Lovecraft and the Elder Gods.

    It might help one's understanding of the film if one can remember
    what characters had what names, but personally I have never found
    anyone who could keep the characters straight. Is that perhaps to
    emphasize how they are all part of a Protean entity with no
    permanent individuality?

    Jed the dog deserves an acting award. I'm serious about that.
    This dog is better than Boris Karloff at appearing menacing and
    also mysterious. And he never looked at the camera, the dolly, or
    the crew (which is a common acting animal problem).

    Here you have a base made up mostly of scientists, and the only one
    really thinking is the helicopter pilot? (In the original movie
    it's the airplane pilot and the secretary. There seems to be some
    implication that she has some scientific position, but we see her
    typing, making coffee, and doing other non-scientific stuff.)

    Childs (Keith David)'s voice may be familiar, since he has narrated
    many PBS documentaries. Other than Ken Russell and Wilford
    Brimley, though, there are not a lot of familiar faces (which may
    be why it's hard to keep the characters straight).

    Rating: +3 (-4 to +4), or 9/10.

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  • From Mack A. Damia@21:1/5 to mleeper@optonline.net on Sun Jun 5 10:10:18 2022
    On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 08:21:32 -0700 (PDT), Mark Leeper
    <mleeper@optonline.net> wrote:

    June 25 is the fortieth anniversary of the release of JOHN
    CARPENTER'S THE THING (not to be confused with THE THING FROM
    ANOTHER WORLd (1951) or THE THING (2011)). Given that it is forty
    years old, and based on a story that is about seventy-five years
    old, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS! Briefly, this is a logic puzzle mixed
    with an alien invasion story.

    You reminded me that the monster in "The Thing From Another World" was
    played by James Arness, Marshall Matt Dillon of "Gunsmoke" fame.

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  • From TheVidiot@21:1/5 to Mark Leeper on Sun Jun 5 12:39:12 2022
    On 6/5/2022 10:21 AM, Mark Leeper wrote:

    Childs (Keith David)'s voice may be familiar, since he has narrated
    many PBS documentaries. Other than Ken Russell and Wilford
    Brimley, though, there are not a lot of familiar faces (which may
    be why it's hard to keep the characters straight).

    Ken? I don't recall seeing any naked nuns or famous composers running
    around.

    Not a lot of familiar faces? Was I watching way too much TV at the time?
    THE THING is chock full of working class actors with numerous
    appearances under their belts; some of them were regulars on hit TV
    shows (such as Richard Masur of ONE DAY AT A TIME fame).


    The Vidiot

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  • From Mark Leeper@21:1/5 to Mack A. Damia on Mon Jun 6 08:31:16 2022
    On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 1:10:22 PM UTC-4, Mack A. Damia wrote:
    On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 08:21:32 -0700 (PDT), Mark Leeper
    <mle...@optonline.net> wrote:

    June 25 is the fortieth anniversary of the release of JOHN
    CARPENTER'S THE THING (not to be confused with THE THING FROM
    ANOTHER WORLd (1951) or THE THING (2011)). Given that it is forty
    years old, and based on a story that is about seventy-five years
    old, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS! Briefly, this is a logic puzzle mixed
    with an alien invasion story.
    You reminded me that the monster in "The Thing From Another World" was
    played by James Arness, Marshall Matt Dillon of "Gunsmoke" fame.

    He also was an FBI agent in THEM!.

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