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  • Re: "Blade Runner"

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Tue May 10 00:32:32 2022
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 9:43:33 AM UTC-10, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    "Blade Runner's Forgotten Adaptation Fixes Its Most Hated 'Mistake'" (2022 article):

    https://screenrant.com/blade-runner-cut-harrison-ford-narration-comic-adaptation/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Wed Sep 21 01:17:19 2022
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    Does this have something to do with BLADE R.?:

    - A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.

    Alan Turing

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  • From Jenny Telia@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Wed Sep 21 14:08:06 2022
    On 21/09/2022 10:17, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item?
    Marv

    Does this have something to do with BLADE R.?:

    - A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.


    Yes, it does. It's called the 'Turing test'.

    However, your post has nothing to do with the (Hungarian) language
    related question by 'Marv'.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Jenny Telia on Wed Sep 21 09:19:51 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:08:11 AM UTC-7, Jenny Telia wrote:
    On 21/09/2022 10:17, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? >> Marv

    Does this have something to do with BLADE R.?:

    - A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.

    Yes, it does. It's called the 'Turing test'.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/17/google-ai-lamda-turing-test/.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Sun Sep 25 00:25:03 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 1:17:21 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv
    Does this have something to do with BLADE R.?:

    - A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.

    Alan Turing

    I have a question about the scene where Deckard 'seduces' Rachel.

    If replicants are programmed to obey/please their masters/humans, then shouldn't Rachel have NOT resisted Deckard's advances?

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Thu Sep 29 16:25:11 2022
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    Anime:

    https://www.darkhorizons.com/blade-runner-shenmue-anime-pulled/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Jenny Telia on Wed Oct 5 09:42:50 2022
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:08:11 AM UTC-7, Jenny Telia wrote:
    On 21/09/2022 10:17, wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? >> Marv

    Does this have something to do with BLADE R.?:

    - A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.

    Yes, it does. It's called the 'Turing test'.

    However, your post has nothing to do with the (Hungarian) language
    related question by 'Marv'.

    (2022 Youtube upload):

    "Ray Kurzweil: AI will pass Turing Test by 2029 | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips"

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  • From occam@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Thu Oct 6 11:21:13 2022
    On 05/10/2022 18:42, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 5:08:11 AM UTC-7, Jenny Telia wrote:
    On 21/09/2022 10:17, wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut" >>>> of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos) >>>> is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on >>>> the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language >>>> is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? >>>> Marv

    Does this have something to do with BLADE R.?:

    - A computer would deserve to be called intelligent if it could deceive a human into believing that it was human.

    Yes, it does. It's called the 'Turing test'.

    However, your post has nothing to do with the (Hungarian) language
    related question by 'Marv'.

    (2022 Youtube upload):

    "Ray Kurzweil: AI will pass Turing Test by 2029 | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips"


    According to this article, one program has already passed the Turing Test:

    https://futurism.com/transcript-sentient-ai-edited

    Judging from your replies to posts in this thread (including the
    original post), I can confidently say YOU would not pass the Turing test.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Fri Nov 11 23:56:56 2022
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    Concerning the novel on which the movie was based:

    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Many+changes+were+made+to+the+novel+for+the+screen+adaptation%22

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Fri Nov 11 23:59:03 2022
    On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 11:56:58 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv
    Concerning the novel on which the movie was based:

    https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Many+changes+were+made+to+the+novel+for+the+screen+adaptation%22

    What other actors were considered for the lead role?:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Robert+Mitchum%2C+Sean+Connery%2C+Al+Pacino%2C+Burt+Reynolds%2C+Clint+Eastwood+and+Dustin+Hoffman%22&tbm=bks&ei=4FFvY_GaKLLYkPIP7vOroAE&ved=0ahUKEwjxiunYlaj7AhUyLEQIHe75ChQQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=%22Robert+Mitchum%2C+Sean+
    Connery%2C+Al+Pacino%2C+Burt+Reynolds%2C+Clint+Eastwood+and+Dustin+Hoffman%22&gs_lcp=Cg1nd3Mtd2l6LWJvb2tzEAM6BQgAEIAEOgUIIRCrAjoHCCEQChCrAjoECCEQClCtCFjd2wJgke8CaARwAHgAgAGpA4gBqnmSAQs1MS44NS4yLjEuMZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-books

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Thu Mar 2 22:40:43 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    Is this part of what BLADE R. was about?:

    - - I hate and fear 'science' because of my conviction that, for long to come if not for ever, it will be the remorseless enemy of mankind. I see it destroying all simplicity and gentleness of life, all the beauty of the world; I see it restoring
    barbarism under a mask of civilization; I see it darkening men's minds and hardening their hearts.

    George Gissing

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Mon Mar 6 20:53:43 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    "10 Things From Blade Runner That Haven't Aged Well" (2019 article):

    https://screenrant.com/blade-runner-things-that-havent-aged-well/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 20:33:45 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - ...Blade Runner is about slavery and injustice

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/5/16428544/blade-runner-philip-k-dick-do-androids-dream-of-electric-sheep-analysis-adaptation

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 20:38:38 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - ..."Blade Runner" is about: a world in which humanity has been snuffed by "progress.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/sd-blade-runner-ridley-scott-harrison-ford-2049-story.html

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 20:41:56 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - ...Blade Runner is about the intrinsic nature of human beings.

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/cyberpunk/blade-runner-metropolis-legacy-sci-fi

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 20:52:12 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - ...Blade Runner is about identity and place in the world...what makes us human.

    https://screenrant.com/blade-runner-2049-plot-meaning-love-original-changes/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 20:57:48 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - Blade Runner is about evidence, proof, defining identity and making decisions as to
    whether preservation is warranted...

    https://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1734&context=asdpapers

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 20:55:09 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - ... Blade Runner is about the loneliness that draws people together...

    https://collider.com/blade-runner-vangelis-score-deckard-perfect-inner-monologue/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Sat Jun 10 21:09:37 2023
    On Saturday, June 10, 2023 at 8:38:40 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:
    - ..."Blade Runner" is about: a world in which humanity has been snuffed by "progress.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/sd-blade-runner-ridley-scott-harrison-ford-2049-story.html

    (Alternate link to abbreviated article):

    https://ew.com/article/1992/10/02/blade-runner-2/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 21:12:57 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - ...Blade Runner is about the machine that becomes as human as it possibly can be...

    https://filmschoolrejects.com/5-science-fiction-films-inspired-by-blade-runner/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jun 10 21:17:20 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    According to this:

    - BLADE RUNNER is about Deckard’s brush with dehumanization after he’s assigned to track down a band of escaped androids (“replicants”) and terminate them before they discover a way to extend their own lifespans.

    https://www.brattleblog.brattlefilm.org/2015/01/22/blade-runner-2-2608/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Marv Soloff on Sat Jul 1 07:10:50 2023
    On Wednesday, July 30, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM UTC-7, Marv Soloff wrote:
    On one of the anniversary companion disks to the final "Director's Cut"
    of "Blade Runner", it appears that the 'cityspeak' used by Gaff (Olmos)
    is basically Hungarian and 'unpolite' Hungarian at that. Can anyone on
    the NG with a working knowledge of Hungarian (my skill at that language
    is nil - although I spent considerable time in Budapest)verify this item? Marv

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoiqICo6ZI

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