• Aspect Ratios, before and after pictures re: Cocoanuts (1929) and other

    From Pluted Pup@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 13 15:42:17 2023
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    For 70 years, Cocoanuts (1929) has had it's picture butchered
    by projectionists and video companies who cut off the top and
    bottom of the screen. This has happened to many films where
    the original ratio is 1.20, not 1.33.

    Here's some links that try to explain aspect ratios and
    how piss poor the management of Universal Studios, who
    cut off the top and bottom of Cocoanuts and Animal Crackers
    for home video.

    These are great links because they show before and after
    pictures, showing just what you are missing when you're
    being cheated by the video company or the projectionist.

    These excerpts from

    https://rjbuffalo.com/The_Cocoanuts.html

    "All video copies of The Cocoanuts are missing the top and bottom
    of the image. Nobody seems able to see the difference - except for
    me. Yes, the Blu-ray is gorgeous, but it is cropped and it still
    has the mistakes that we have been seeing for more than 60 years
    now. Just because the shape is about 1:1.33 it does not follow
    that the entire image was transferred to video. Far from it."

    "In nearly a half-century of trying, I have learned that it is
    impossible to explain any of the above to anybody who works in
    the movie business."

    So it is up to us customers to observe and acknowledge
    technical defects in what is shown to us.

    And there is more about aspect ratios in 2 other articles:

    Apertures, Aspect Ratios, Film Formats

    https://rjbuffalo.com/apertures.html

    Apertures, Aspect Ratios, Film Formats Part 2

    https://rjbuffalo.com/filmclips.html

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  • From Bill Anderson@21:1/5 to Pluted Pup on Fri Jul 14 02:42:32 2023
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    Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:
    For 70 years, Cocoanuts (1929) has had it's picture butchered
    by projectionists and video companies who cut off the top and
    bottom of the screen. This has happened to many films where
    the original ratio is 1.20, not 1.33.

    Here's some links that try to explain aspect ratios and
    how piss poor the management of Universal Studios, who
    cut off the top and bottom of Cocoanuts and Animal Crackers
    for home video.

    These are great links because they show before and after
    pictures, showing just what you are missing when you're
    being cheated by the video company or the projectionist.

    These excerpts from

    https://rjbuffalo.com/The_Cocoanuts.html

    "All video copies of The Cocoanuts are missing the top and bottom
    of the image. Nobody seems able to see the difference - except for
    me. Yes, the Blu-ray is gorgeous, but it is cropped and it still
    has the mistakes that we have been seeing for more than 60 years
    now. Just because the shape is about 1:1.33 it does not follow
    that the entire image was transferred to video. Far from it."

    "In nearly a half-century of trying, I have learned that it is
    impossible to explain any of the above to anybody who works in
    the movie business."

    So it is up to us customers to observe and acknowledge
    technical defects in what is shown to us.

    And there is more about aspect ratios in 2 other articles:

    Apertures, Aspect Ratios, Film Formats

    https://rjbuffalo.com/apertures.html

    Apertures, Aspect Ratios, Film Formats Part 2

    https://rjbuffalo.com/filmclips.html




    Having watched Animal Crackers only a few weeks ago, I can attest that you
    are correct. At the end of the movie Harpo is being praised as a hero by
    the police, when the Rittenhouse silver begins falling from his coat sleeve
    and clattering to the floor, a gag just like the Thenardiers’ in Les Miserables. The problem with the video I was watching was that the sleeve extended below the bottom of the frame and I could hear the clattering but
    I could not see what was causing it at first. Since then I have found a
    better transfer, but even so that sleeve opening is almost cut off. A great Marx Brothers gag is nearly ruined by the video transfer.

    --
    Bill Anderson

    I am the Mighty Favog

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