The Washington Post and Wikipedia report that Zhou Youguang,
the creator of the Pinyin writing system for Chinese and other
far-eastern languages, died at age 111. He's the man who turned
Peking into Beijing, and Mao Tse-Tung into Mao Zedong.
He was in his 40s during China's Communist revolution 70 years ago,
and over 65 when President Nixon went to China 44 years ago.
At eleventy-one, I think he holds the record for oldest-ever famous
person, not counting people who were famous only for being old.
Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an incompatibility with my browser?
We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, diedHey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
(I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie Langford.)
On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:
Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
(I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
Langford.)
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
Pt
On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:
Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
(I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
Langford.)
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910-8662-238f77be63acn@googlegroups.com>,
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, October 15, 2021 at 2:48:54 AM UTC-7, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <skagim$qqq$1...@reader1.panix.com>, k...@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:
Hey, we shared a birthday! She was a bit older than me, though. :-)
We have a new record. Ruthie Tompson, born July 22, 1910, died
October 10, 2021, at an age of 111 years and 2 months.
(I also share a birthday with the Reverend William Spooner and Bonnie
Langford.)
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
Hmmm. A quick search reveals a list of people born on June 6,
none of whom I ever heard of. I'll stick with the Battle of
Midway, which (stretching the definition a bit) we can regard as
the "birth" of the Allied victory in the Pacific.
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.I also share mine wit Prince George.
On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
I also share mine wit Prince George.
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
Which Prince George?
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
I also share mine wit Prince George.
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
Which Prince George?
The one whose Great-Grandma I share my birthday with :-)
Which is why my radio alarm clock usually wakes me up on my birthday with the >national anthem...
On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 6:20:25 AM UTC-4, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
I also share mine wit Prince George.
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
Which Prince George?
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an
incompatibility with my browser?
Looks OK to me - will expire at the weekend, but I am sure they will
renew and install the new certs Saturday.
Let me guess you are using a fairly old Mac? There is an issue
where one of the root certs has expired and the OS is holding onto
the expired chain. There are howtos on how to fix this on the web.
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
Paul Dormer wrote:
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
I also share mine wit Prince George.
Which Prince George?
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
Paul Dormer wrote:
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.
I also share mine wit Prince George.
Which Prince George?
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
Not the one nearby (to me) Prince George's County, Maryland, is
named for? His birthday is April 2, 1653, according to Wikipedia.
But it doesn't say whether that's OS (Julian) or NS (Gregorian).
Instead it says, "The date is occasionally given as 29 February,
21 April or 11 November 1653, but 2 April is the date on his
coffin plate."
--
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
Which Prince George?
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
That's this little welfare case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Cambridge
My mind went to George IV, who was Prince Regent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_IV
Not the one nearby (to me) Prince George's County, Maryland, is
named for?
That was this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_George_of_Denmark
Married to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain
The family connections among the royalty of Europe were absurd. Kaiser Wilhelm was Queen Victoria's grandson, and Czar Nicholas was his first cousin. World War I can be viewed as a family argument that got out of hand.
When Hungary was divided between the Holy Roman Empire and the Ottoman
Empire in the 16th century, the ruler of the HRE's part was Ferdinand
and the queen of the Ottoman vassal state was Isabella. This wasn't a
total coincidence, as this Ferdinand was a grandson of the infamous King Ferdinand of Aragon. The younger Ferdinand's brother, the Holy Roman
Emperor Charles V, was king of Spain as well.
And that's the reason. The Portuguese queen was also married to the
ruler of Great Britain. Or rather the ruler of England, Scotland, and Ireland, Charles II. Not to be confused with Charles I, who lost his
head, or with Charles III who will rule after the current queen unless
he dies of old age first.
Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Has Wikipedia's SSL certificate really expired, or is that just an
incompatibility with my browser?
Looks OK to me - will expire at the weekend, but I am sure they will
renew and install the new certs Saturday.
Let me guess you are using a fairly old Mac? There is an issue
where one of the root certs has expired and the OS is holding onto
the expired chain. There are howtos on how to fix this on the web.
I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten the
message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"
Married to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain
Best known for her lace, a kind of plant.
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
The one whose Great-Grandma I share my birthday with :-)
Which is why my radio alarm clock usually wakes me up on my birthday
with the
national anthem...
In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
No, that's me.
Also jokes about the Duke of Marlborough being the ancestor of
Winston Churchill.
Anyway, the plot is that to be released as ghosts they have to have
a member of the royal family visit their house and it takes a couple
of hundred years for this to happen.
(Really glad I was out of the country for the whole week following
Di's death.)
In article <c1dba944-63e6-4910...@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com (Peter Trei) wrote:
Lucky you! I share mine with Che Guevara and Donald Trump.I also share mine wit Prince George.
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
(Really glad I was out of the country for the whole week following
Di's death.)
ObFandom: You were in San Antonio for the Worldcon, right?
Remember the Alamo!
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:26 +0100 (BST), prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul
Dormer)
wrote:
In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
No, that's me.
ROLFL!
Well played, sir.
In article <hsgomgprv0hf37edreh6spvl027hbk4fkf@4ax.com>,
alan@thewoodfords.uk (Alan Woodford) wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:26 +0100 (BST), prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul
Dormer)
wrote:
In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
No, that's me.
ROLFL!
Well played, sir.
This is me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MecWui0Uk0DQTJmuc88_YGVPzfWHE1_u/view?usp >=sharing
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZ Dv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
In article <r16D6r.npu@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) >wrote:
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZ
Dv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
Alas, that link doesn't work as I don't have a gmail account.
In article <memo.20211018113000.18520B@pauldormer.cix.co.uk>,
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
In article <hsgomgprv0hf37edreh6spvl027hbk4fkf@4ax.com>, >>alan@thewoodfords.uk (Alan Woodford) wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:26 +0100 (BST), prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul
Dormer)
wrote:
In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
No, that's me.
ROLFL!
Well played, sir.
This is me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MecWui0Uk0DQTJmuc88_YGVPzfWHE1_u/view?usp >>=sharing
But, clearly, not now. At that age, I am convinced, you couldn't type yet.
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZDv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZDv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
clicking that opens my g-mail inbox.
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZDv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
clicking that opens my g-mail inbox.
Clicking that gets me an ad for gmail. There are tiny photos of people embedded in it, but none of them are either toddlers or in uniform.
I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten the
message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"
On 10/18/21 6:07 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZDv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
clicking that opens my g-mail inbox.
Clicking that gets me an ad for gmail. There are tiny photos of people
embedded in it, but none of them are either toddlers or in uniform.
I get a Google sign-in page.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:23:15 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
In article <memo.20211018113000.18520B@pauldormer.cix.co.uk>,
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
In article <hsgomgprv0hf37edreh6spvl027hbk4fkf@4ax.com>,
alan@thewoodfords.uk (Alan Woodford) wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:26 +0100 (BST), prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul
Dormer)
wrote:
In article <r1385A.2087@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J >>>>> Heydt) wrote:
I'm going to guess the one who's young and cute and photogenic.
No, that's me.
ROLFL!
Well played, sir.
This is me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MecWui0Uk0DQTJmuc88_YGVPzfWHE1_u/view?usp >>> =sharing
But, clearly, not now. At that age, I am convinced, you couldn't type yet. >>
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZDv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
clicking that opens my g-mail inbox.
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten
the message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"
The reason why one uses a shell account is so that when things like
this come up, you can ask the staff to fix them.
In article <memo.20211018164359.14176A@pauldormer.cix.co.uk>,
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
In article <r16D6r.npu@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) >>wrote:
Here's me at two:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/FMfcgzGljvSxsqgQtTZWvmDTgtfQdZ
Dv?projector=1&messagePartId=0.5
The good-looking guy in uniform is my father.
Alas, that link doesn't work as I don't have a gmail account.
Phooey, When my daughter gets home from work I'll ask her how to
get it onto a site I can link to.
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten
the message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"
The reason why one uses a shell account is so that when things like
this come up, you can ask the staff to fix them.
I don't know whether the problem is with Panix, with Wikipedia, or
with some third party such as ARIN or IANA.
On 10/18/21 7:33 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
I'm using Lynx on Panix. For the past several weeks I've gotten
the message: "SSL error:certificate has expired-Continue? (y)"
The reason why one uses a shell account is so that when things like
this come up, you can ask the staff to fix them.
I don't know whether the problem is with Panix, with Wikipedia, or
with some third party such as ARIN or IANA.
For TLS (formerly known as SSL) to work, the browser needs to trust some certificates. Ones based on older, weaker protocols get deprecated, and
new ones are added. Websites don't usually use these certificates
directly, but they use ones which are based on a chain of trust that
leads to one or more of them.
The usual way to know about the new certificates is to have a fairly
recent version of the browser. If it's too out of date and the server is aggressive about deprecating old certificates, the chain of trust can be broken. There's no path from the certificates the site uses to the root certificates which the browser trusts.
Okay, Meg went upstairs and sent me a link.
https://twitter.com/MargretheRavn/status/1450259327239921668
If that doesn't work either, let me know.
My photo is much better quality, but I assume it was a studio
portrait done for my parents as a record. I'm also slightly
surprised that it's in colour and wonder whether it was actually
hand coloured. Unlikely, but colour film was expensive in the
mid-fifties.
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
My photo is much better quality, but I assume it was a studio
portrait done for my parents as a record. I'm also slightly
surprised that it's in colour and wonder whether it was actually
hand coloured. Unlikely, but colour film was expensive in the
mid-fifties.
My first thought on seeing it was that it was a hand-tinted black &
white photo. I've seen lots of such photos in old books, and they
all have the same slightly-off look about them.
Hand tinting is still a thing. Lot of electron microscope images
are colorized in this way.
(For those just tuning in, we're talking about this photo: >https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MecWui0Uk0DQTJmuc88_YGVPzfWHE1_u
)
How big is the print?
In article <skpca6$g1n$1@panix2.panix.com>, kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
How big is the print?
About 20cm by 15cm.
I'm not sure when it was taken but I was born in 1953.
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
How big is the print?
About 20cm by 15cm.
I'm not sure when it was taken but I was born in 1953.
That's a very weird aspect ratio.
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
How big is the print?
About 20cm by 15cm.
I'm not sure when it was taken but I was born in 1953.
That's a very weird aspect ratio.
No, it's a very common one. It's the old "academy" standard ratio for >movies, and the ratio used until recently for TV.
No, it's a very common one. It's the old "academy" standard ratio for movies, and the ratio used until recently for TV.
That's a very weird aspect ratio. How about 17.8 by 12.7 cm?
There is also 13 by 18 which is similar but different (and requires
a different film holder). 13x18 is a French thing, 17.8x12.7 is an
American one.
It's actually in a frame so part of the print is probably obscured. I actually scanned it about 15 years ago and that was the last time I
removed it from the frame. I found it at my father's house after he
died.
According to the file properties, it's 1889 by 2540.
kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
No, it's a very common one. It's the old "academy" standard ratio
for movies, and the ratio used until recently for TV.
Not that recently. I've had only widescreen TVs since 1999.
You've had multiple TVs since 1999? How long are they supposed
to last?
I meant recently in comparison with widescreen movies or with color
TV. Also, widescreen TVs were very uncommon in 1999, at least in
the US. Note that Futurama (which began in 1999) didn't switch to
widescreen until 2005, or The Simpsons (began 1989) until 2009.
For comparison, most shows (in the US) switched to color around 1966.
Star Trek (began 1966) was always in color, but the first seasons of
Lost in Space and Hogan's Heroes (1965) were not, though all
subsequent
seasons were. Most Americans didn't own a color TV until the 1970s.
You've had multiple TVs since 1999? How long are they supposed
to last?
Many of the current sets also have built-in Wi-Fi streaming devices.
In article <sl0m7q$1t5$1@dont-email.me>, garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com
(Gary McGath) wrote:
Many of the current sets also have built-in Wi-Fi streaming devices.
Indeed. And many channels in the UK have on-demand services so you can
watch programmes at any time you like. (I have satellite with a built-in
PVR so that is less useful, but I have subscribed to Netflix.)
Note: That On Demand, at least here, is a service provided by the
cable (or, presumably, satellite) company, not a feature of the TV
set. Unlike the built in streaming service links.
In article <2bv8ngtof1a94osm4lfl5hhho3l4n2ff5u@4ax.com>, tppm@ca.rr.com
(Tim Merrigan) wrote:
In the UK, a number of broadcasters have websites that allow you to watch their programmes when you want. For instance, the BBC has the iPlayer,
ITV has ITVHub. (I'm not sure if you need a TV licence to use them, but
you need one to own a TV set.)
On 10/24/21 10:47 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <2bv8ngtof1a94osm4lfl5hhho3l4n2ff5u@4ax.com>, tppm@ca.rr.com
(Tim Merrigan) wrote:
In the UK, a number of broadcasters have websites that allow you to watch
their programmes when you want. For instance, the BBC has the iPlayer,
ITV has ITVHub. (I'm not sure if you need a TV licence to use them, but
you need one to own a TV set.)
Those are just Internet streaming services, right? Do you need a license
to use Netflix or YouTube?
Those are just Internet streaming services, right? Do you need a
license to use Netflix or YouTube?
Does iPlayer need a license because
you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
defined as television?
On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 15:36:16 -0400, Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 10/24/21 10:47 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <2bv8ngtof1a94osm4lfl5hhho3l4n2ff5u@4ax.com>, tppm@ca.rr.com
(Tim Merrigan) wrote:
In the UK, a number of broadcasters have websites that allow you to watch >>> their programmes when you want. For instance, the BBC has the iPlayer,
ITV has ITVHub. (I'm not sure if you need a TV licence to use them, but >>> you need one to own a TV set.)
Those are just Internet streaming services, right? Do you need a license
to use Netflix or YouTube?
The current situation is that you do need a TV licence to watch iPlayer
in any form (live or catchup). For other TV catch-up services and non-broadcast streaming services you do not. If you are using broadcast
TV streaming services such as ITVHub to watch live TV you also still need
a licence.
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
Not that recently. I've had only widescreen TVs since 1999.You've had multiple TVs since 1999? How long are they supposed
to last?
In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>, rkshullat@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a35"
CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident inrange.
our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"
My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
bigger.
In article <sl620u$atv$1@dont-email.me>, garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com
(Gary McGath) wrote:
Does iPlayer need a license because
you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
defined as television?
You can watch iPlayer on a computer (or a phone) but you seem to still
need a license. From Wikipedia:
"Before September 2016 a television licence was not required to stream
either BBC television or radio programmes from iPlayer that had already
been broadcast, though a licence was still required in order to watch
live content. Since 1 September 2016 a television licence has been
required to view any iPlayer content, regardless of whether it is live or on-demand. Despite the requirement, the enforcement of this measure uses
only a trust system, under which users must acknowledge a pop-up window warning of the new requirements. Neither the BBC nor TV Licensing
announced any specific plans to implement detection measures."
We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a35"
CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident inrange.
our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@keithlynch.net> wrote:
Paul Dormer <prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk> wrote:
Not that recently. I've had only widescreen TVs since 1999.You've had multiple TVs since 1999? How long are they supposed
to last?
My perception is that most people replace TVs because of new features (size, >resolution, frequency, streaming capability, etc.) rather than because the TV >fails.
We've never had one fail,
My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace,
it's behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.
In article <sl6l4u$rjj$2@dont-email.me>, garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com
(Gary McGath) wrote:
My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace,
it's behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.
Still, I am limited by the size of my house, and most of the space is
books.
Sounds confusing. What's the legal definition of a "TV set" in the UK?
To me, the difference between a TV and a monitor is that a TV can
receive RF broadcasts over the air. (I assume a tuner connected to a
monitor would need a license too.) Does iPlayer need a license because
you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
defined as television?
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
Sounds confusing. What's the legal definition of a "TV set" in the UK?
To me, the difference between a TV and a monitor is that a TV can
receive RF broadcasts over the air. (I assume a tuner connected to a
monitor would need a license too.) Does iPlayer need a license because
you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
defined as television?
A TV set is a TV set because you can watch the BBC on it. If it is capable of showing the BBC, then you pay a tax (which goes to operate the BBC). If it is not capable of showing the BBC you do not need to pay a tax.
A TV set is a TV set because you can watch the BBC on it. If it isthe
capable of showing the BBC, then you pay a tax (which goes to operate
BBC). If it is not capable of showing the BBC you do not need to pay a
tax.
Oh, we have. Not surprisingly, it was the fault of a cat. Our cropped-tailed Siamese, named Isolde for reasons that should be
obvious, liked to get as high up as the furniture would permit.
Where we were living at the time, that was on top of the
television, which was on top of some six-foot-high bookcases.
In article <r1JK65.204y@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
Oh, we have. Not surprisingly, it was the fault of a cat. Our
cropped-tailed Siamese, named Isolde for reasons that should be
obvious, liked to get as high up as the furniture would permit.
Where we were living at the time, that was on top of the
television, which was on top of some six-foot-high bookcases.
How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?
In article <r1JK65.204y@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
Oh, we have. Not surprisingly, it was the fault of a cat. Our
cropped-tailed Siamese, named Isolde for reasons that should be
obvious, liked to get as high up as the furniture would permit.
Where we were living at the time, that was on top of the
television, which was on top of some six-foot-high bookcases.
How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?
On 10/25/21 5:32 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
Sounds confusing. What's the legal definition of a "TV set" in the UK?
To me, the difference between a TV and a monitor is that a TV can
receive RF broadcasts over the air. (I assume a tuner connected to a
monitor would need a license too.) Does iPlayer need a license because
you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
defined as television?
A TV set is a TV set because you can watch the BBC on it. If it is capable of showing the BBC, then you pay a tax (which goes to operate the BBC). If it is not capable of showing the BBC you do not need to pay a tax.A corporation that has the unique privilege to get the government to tax people on its behalf, while its competitors, if they're allowed at all,
need to earn their money. Sounds so ... predictable.
--
On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 5:58:37 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
On 10/25/21 5:32 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:A corporation that has the unique privilege to get the government to tax
Sounds confusing. What's the legal definition of a "TV set" in the UK?
To me, the difference between a TV and a monitor is that a TV can
receive RF broadcasts over the air. (I assume a tuner connected to a
monitor would need a license too.) Does iPlayer need a license because
you have to use a TV for it, or because it's from the BBC and thus
defined as television?
A TV set is a TV set because you can watch the BBC on it. If it is capable >> > of showing the BBC, then you pay a tax (which goes to operate the BBC). If >> > it is not capable of showing the BBC you do not need to pay a tax.
people on its behalf, while its competitors, if they're allowed at all,
need to earn their money. Sounds so ... predictable.
--
Auntie Beeb is, effectively, a government department. One wonders why it >isn't part of "The Ministry of Truth," along with the Anglican Church, the universities
and state-owned and operated primary and secondary schools.
We have a bit of that here in the states, but broken up into 50 different >"ministries."
In article <r1JK65.204y@kithrup.com>, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:
Oh, we have. Not surprisingly, it was the fault of a cat. Our
cropped-tailed Siamese, named Isolde for reasons that should be
obvious, liked to get as high up as the furniture would permit.
Where we were living at the time, that was on top of the
television, which was on top of some six-foot-high bookcases.
How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?
On 10/25/21 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>,
rkshullat@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a35"
CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident inrange.
our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"
My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
bigger.
My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace, it's
behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 10/25/21 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1...@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>,
rksh...@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a35"
CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident in >>> our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"range.
My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
bigger.
My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace, it's >behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.Here is a video of someone watching TV with a 72-inch monitor. It looks
very convenient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bno-qsnbUA
How do cats cope with modern flat screen sets?
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 10/25/21 11:50 AM, Paul Dormer wrote:
In article <sl6gu5$9cvm$1@memoryalpha.rosettacon.com>,
rkshullat@rosettacondot.com () wrote:
We've never had one fail, but since (roughly) 1999 we've gone from a35"
CRT to a 46" 1080p LCD to a 60" 1080p LCD. If I were more confident in >>>> our Internet connectivity we'd probably get a 4K panel in the 80"range.
My current set is 49in. I believe. I wouldn't have room for anything
bigger.
My TV is tiny as modern sets go. On my list of things to replace, it's >>behind my car, computer, and electronic piano.
Here is a video of someone watching TV with a 72-inch monitor. It looks
very convenient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bno-qsnbUA
--scott
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