• Re: MT VOID, 11/01/24 -- Vol. 43, No. 18, Whole Number 2352

    From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Sun Nov 3 16:06:00 2024
    In article <vg859m$e2n7$1@dont-email.me>, evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) wrote:


    In 1936 Mussolini had built Cinecitta Studios, blatantly Roman in
    style, complete with Roman-style mosaics with modern Italian
    images. He was able to provide 32,000 extras and 40 actual
    elephants, providing the only example of a charge of live
    elephants in film.

    I spent a couple of weeks about ten years ago doing train travel around
    Italy. The main railway station in Milan dates from the thirties and
    looks exactly like what you'd expect an ancient Roman railway station to
    look like.

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Evelyn C. Leeper on Sun Nov 3 11:22:59 2024
    On 11/3/24 10:36 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:

    STAR TREK: THE ORIGINAL SERIES: "Bread and Circuses" has a lot of
    Roman tropes, but is ultimately a really bad episode.  (This is my
    opinion, not Aldrete's, as is much of what follows here.)  The
    premise is that there is a planet very similar that has a Roman
    Empire, where people and concepts have Roman names, there is a
    Roman political structure, and it is in fact Rome with a
    technology level of 20th century earth (including internal
    combustion engine cars that look just like out cars).  And
    everyone speaks English.  This is a stupid idea, probably even
    worse than having planets named Romulus and Vulcan.  And they get
    it wrong anyway: there is a new religion that the Enterprise crew
    thinks worships the "sun", but it turns out it's really the "son"
    [of God], and the crew thinks it with replace Imperial Rome just
    as it did before.  Except that Christianity did not replace Rome,
    Rather, Imperial Rome absorbed Christianity and lasted until 1453.
    The crew also claims there was no sun worship in Rome; this was
    absolutely not true.

    I figured the natives of the planet spoke Latin or a Latin-derived
    language (it makes as much sense as any of the other Roman analogues),
    and the universal translator rendered the words for "sun" and "son" as homophones, creating an ambiguity which the locals weren't aware of.

    I haven't been posting much lately because my connection to Eternal
    September is so glitchy. Hopefully this post will show up.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Charles Packer@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Mon Nov 4 08:51:04 2024
    On Sun, 3 Nov 2024 11:22:59 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:


    I haven't been posting much lately because my connection to Eternal
    September is so glitchy. Hopefully this post will show up.

    Speaking of Eternal September (please excuse diverting away
    from the Eternal City), it's worth sharing that my connection
    worked fine for about six months after I signed up, until
    suddenly my login disappeared. It took me a while to figure out
    what had happened, but when I signed up again everything was
    back to normal.

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