Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups
(at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe
to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to
view and search for historical Usenet content posted before February
22, 2024 on Google Groups.
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at >groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet >groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google >Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and >associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not >support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP >servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, >including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current >Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
In article <ulgbau$1k6bt$2@epsilon3.eternal-september.org>,
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet
groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google
Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and
associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP
servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups,
including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current
Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
22 or 15?
On 12/14/23 8:49 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet
groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google
Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and
associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP
servers.
Good to be rid of it, though it had reached the point of not making much >difference. For many years I filtered out all posts from Google Groups >because so much of it was spam and Google explicitly refused to act on
spam reports.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
"Donate the Usenet archive you took over from Deja.com to someone
who will maintain access to it. Maybe there is some tax benefit to
donating it. Google's refusal to ban users who used Google's portal
to spam indiscrimanantly is a major contributor to the "death of
Usenet." Shutting off access to groups such as soc.history.what-if
in even read-only form has been a blow to the community. Don't be
evil my Aunt Fanny."
On 12/14/2023 10:24 PM, The Doctor wrote:
In article <ulgbau$1k6bt$2@epsilon3.eternal-september.org>,
Jay E. Morris <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet >>> groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google
Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and >>> associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP >>> servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups,
including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current
Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
22 or 15?
The answers page says Feb 22 but evidently the blurb that pops up on
Groups itself says the 15th. We'll see.
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
"Donate the Usenet archive you took over from Deja.com to someone
who will maintain access to it. Maybe there is some tax benefit to
donating it. Google's refusal to ban users who used Google's portal
to spam indiscrimanantly is a major contributor to the "death of
Usenet." Shutting off access to groups such as soc.history.what-if
in even read-only form has been a blow to the community. Don't be
evil my Aunt Fanny."
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those with
Google accounts.
But I agree that it would be better if it was maintained by a more
reliable organization, one which didn't require an account. Better
yet, given how inexpensive disk space is these days, sell full copies
to anyone who wants them.
--
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Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
Door, ass, way out.
--
Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org Google Groups killfiled here
"A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
- Associated Press
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those with
Google accounts.
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those
with Google accounts.
But it isn't searchable and readable and has not been for more than
a decade now. The incices are badly broken and it is impossible
to find many earlier articles which could previously be found with
simple searches. They are in there and if you know the message-id
you might be able to retrieve them, but just knowing the author and
content is not enough to find them.
Thanks. I knew there were problems 12 years ago when I was searching
for all posts by Dan Hoey to make a memorial website for him.
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those
with Google accounts.
But it isn't searchable and readable and has not been for more than
a decade now. The incices are badly broken and it is impossible
to find many earlier articles which could previously be found with
simple searches. They are in there and if you know the message-id
you might be able to retrieve them, but just knowing the author and
content is not enough to find them.
Thanks. I knew there were problems 12 years ago when I was searching
for all posts by Dan Hoey to make a memorial website for him. But I
figured they must have long since fixed their problems, since they're
a very successful high tech company with high-status technical
employees, and since search is their main line of business. I wasn't
able to check for myself since the whole of Google Groups had
retreated behind the Google-login event horizon.
If they're unwilling to maintain it, they should make full copies
available to anyone who wants one.
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 02:00:13 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch" ><kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those
with Google accounts.
But it isn't searchable and readable and has not been for more than
a decade now. The incices are badly broken and it is impossible
to find many earlier articles which could previously be found with
simple searches. They are in there and if you know the message-id
you might be able to retrieve them, but just knowing the author and
content is not enough to find them.
Thanks. I knew there were problems 12 years ago when I was searching
for all posts by Dan Hoey to make a memorial website for him. But I >>figured they must have long since fixed their problems, since they're
a very successful high tech company with high-status technical
employees, and since search is their main line of business. I wasn't
able to check for myself since the whole of Google Groups had
retreated behind the Google-login event horizon.
If they're unwilling to maintain it, they should make full copies
available to anyone who wants one.
The Usenet search started deteriorating the moment Google Groups took
over control of DejaNews, and has only gotten worse since.
--
Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.
Tim Merrigan
--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. >www.avg.com
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups, including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
On 12/14/2023 8:49 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
Basically, not worth maintaining.
https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638381921477344227-87081626&p=usenet&rd=1
Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to Usenet
groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and search
for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on Google
Groups.
In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and
associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other NNTP
servers.
This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups,
including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current
Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
Saw this in another group last week, for what its worth.
https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/30/usenet_revival/
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those
with Google accounts.
Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
They are claiming they will continue to maintain the historical
archive and keep it searchable and readable, at least by those
with Google accounts.
[snip]
Just alerting those who are used to seeing me post via GG that I have >migrated to E-S/Thunderbird. Forgive me if I screw up while learning
new skills.
Kevrob <kjrobinson@mail.com> wrote:
...
Other than a couple lines in the header that people seldom look at,
nothing is different. It's all the same from our end.
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