• Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 21 16:30:07 2023
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    https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-disabled-fans-comment/
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to solar.penguin@gmail.com on Thu Nov 23 12:41:08 2023
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    In article <ujmsu4$1oeh6$1@dont-email.me>,
    solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:

    BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

    In article <5hnslip2ps10bl64aehdv8h4f87g9lnnco@4ax.com>,
    Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor
    <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke hypocrites
    and bigots who no body asked for them to be represented by.

    Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted? (What people
    appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's not bigoted.)

    'Woke' is absolutely bigoted. When casting notices won't even
    consider white males in the name of 'diversity', that's bigotry.


    That’s odd. I could’ve sworn Davros was still being played by
    a white male...


    All the way through.
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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM on Thu Nov 23 21:02:08 2023
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    In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
    Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?

    [Hal Heydt]
    You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
    attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
    exist.

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  • From Dorothy J Heydt@21:1/5 to gmsingh@email.com on Thu Nov 23 21:05:02 2023
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    In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7.12299@fx14.iad>,
    trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
    So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites
    also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is >SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
    was stupid or a lie?

    [Hal Heydt]
    Where I live--California--non-Hispanic whites are a plurality,
    but not a majority.

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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Fri Nov 24 10:48:04 2023
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    On 24/11/2023 10:36, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/11/2023 21:02, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor  <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
    Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?

    [Hal Heydt]
    You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
    attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs?  They both
    exist.

    And how long would those take? By the time he got up the first step he'd
    be exterminated. How is he supposed to crawl through air-conditioning
    shafts, climb up rocks, travel across muddy fields, move through narrow corridors, and climb up ladders?

    This is total woke stupidity.

    The Doctor's already been confined to a wheelchair before anyway.
    William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, and he didn't do anything except
    sit in one place and give instructions to his other selves. How long do
    you think a series like that would last?


    Peter Davison was also being wheeled around in a wheelchair in
    Castrovalva if I remember right. He's been there done that. There's no
    need to do it again.

    Real people with real disabilities have never been representing by these hypocritical virtue signalling woke retards. Real people with real disabilities don't like being disabled, and don't want others to be like
    them in order for them to feel good. Fucking woke morons!


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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From The True Doctor@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Fri Nov 24 10:36:19 2023
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    On 23/11/2023 21:02, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <ujl0qa$1bn3g$2@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    How the fuck is a Doctor in a wheelchair supposed to climb stairs?
    Wasn't that already a big problem with Davros?

    [Hal Heydt]
    You've never researched stair-climbing wheelchairs, or
    attachements to permit wheelchairs to climb stairs? They both
    exist.

    And how long would those take? By the time he got up the first step he'd
    be exterminated. How is he supposed to crawl through air-conditioning
    shafts, climb up rocks, travel across muddy fields, move through narrow corridors, and climb up ladders?

    This is total woke stupidity.

    The Doctor's already been confined to a wheelchair before anyway.
    William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, and he didn't do anything except
    sit in one place and give instructions to his other selves. How long do
    you think a series like that would last?

    Real people with real disabilities have never been representing by these hypocritical virtue signalling woke retards. Real people with real
    disabilities don't like being disabled, and don't want others to be like
    them in order for them to feel good. Fucking woke morons!

    --
    The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
    stands for." -William Shatner

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Dorothy J Heydt on Mon Nov 27 20:37:55 2023
    Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

    In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:

    Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the
    Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017
    and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.

    Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?

    That's just it... one [so called] fan of a TV show thinks that just
    because he dislikes it, everyone else must dislike it too. His sense
    of entitlement is nearly as big as his ego...

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Mon Nov 27 20:43:07 2023
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <s4sLJy.uqv@kithrup.com>,
    Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
    In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's not
    up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity staff
    at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about is
    fanfic.

    Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the
    Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017
    and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.

    Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?

    Well The Timeless Child Era split the fandom to no bitter end!

    Fandom liking or not liking episodes of a TV show does not make those
    episodes canonical or non-canonical. Fans have opinions. Opinions are
    not always facts.

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  • From Kevrob@21:1/5 to The True Doctor on Mon Nov 27 14:37:55 2023
    On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:14 AM UTC-5, The True Doctor wrote:
    On 23/11/2023 21:05, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <Dqu7N.129529$wvv7....@fx14.iad>,
    trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
    So in your diseased, syphilitic mind "diversity" means including whites >> also? That's so weird! Whites are in the majority, and "diversity" is
    SPECIFICALLY about including minorities. Would you say what you said
    was stupid or a lie?

    [Hal Heydt]
    Where I live--California--non-Hispanic whites are a plurality,
    but not a majority.
    The woke want you to think that Hispanics are non-whites by appealing to people's stupidity just like Squealer does in Animal Farm in order to justify the pigs' lies and double standards.

    Hispanics are of European origin just as are other white minorities such
    as German Americans, English Americans, Irish Americans, Italian
    Americans, Greek Americans, Bulgarian Americans, Norwegian Americans,
    Dutch Americans and so on. Why don't the woke think they deserve to be represented too? Norwegians don't identify with Hispanics, and Italians don't identify with the English.
    --

    In the US a Hispanic is someone who has ancestry from a Spanish-speaking culture. It was a category popularized by our Census though there are older instances.

    [quote]

    "pertaining to Spain" (especially ancient Spain) 1580s, from Latin Hispanicus, from
    Hispania "Iberian Peninsula," from Hispanus "Spaniard" (see Spaniard). Specific
    application to Spanish-speaking parts of the New World is from 1889, American English; since c. 1972 especially applied to Spanish-speaking persons of Latin American descent living in the U.S. As a noun meaning "Hispanic person" from 1972.

    [/quote] - https://www.etymonline.com/word/hispanic

    That's a bit sloppy as many Lusophones are also Latin Americans. But these are linguistic, not racial divisions. Where race comes into it is the high percentage of
    Spanish speakers in the New World with indigenous and/or African ancestry.

    My Cuban-American sister-in-law is no "darker" than most of the Italian-American
    girls I went to school with.

    --
    Kevin R

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue Nov 28 00:45:10 2023
    In article <nnd$3b00a04b$39e8fb69@f632f39814f1b044>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote:

    In article <s4sLJy.uqv@kithrup.com>,
    Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
    In article <ujrhr0$2hc1d$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote:
    Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point. It's not
    up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity staff
    at BBC, to decide otherwise. What you're talking about is
    fanfic.

    Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from the
    Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 2017
    and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is erased.

    Who died and made you the arbiter of canon?

    Well The Timeless Child Era split the fandom to no bitter end!

    Fandom liking or not liking episodes of a TV show does not make those >episodes canonical or non-canonical. Fans have opinions. Opinions are
    not always facts.

    Fact is the Timelss Child almost shelved Doctor Who!
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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to daniel47@nomail.afraid.org on Thu Nov 30 12:58:46 2023
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    In article <uk9p4n$1avbr$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The Doctor wrote on 30/11/23 10:51 am:
    In article <uk86g7$vpf3$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2023-11-29 11:19:43 +0000, Blueshirt said:
    Daniel65 wrote:
    The Doctor wrote on 29/11/23 5:06 am:
    In article <xn0o9vkyxdpqb62000@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    I just KNEW when Mike mentioned HHGTTG you'd post something
    about the Disney version of it... as that is another one of your >>>>>>> favourite broken records. But for once, it's something that you
    are right about!!!

    Disney's HHHTTG sucked.

    Can't say I've ever heard of that one, % ...... EVER!!

    They made a film version of it around twenty years ago... it wasn't
    as good as the radio show.

    It sucked! :-)

    The UK TV show is the best viewable version and the hand-drawn
    "computer" animations for the Guide are great.

    You would!

    He would .................... WHAT, %??
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