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  • Question on 2020 NASFiC

    From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 21:12:22 2023
    In my revision of Tomorrow's Songs Today, I'm writing about the effect
    of the pandemic and the attendant emergency regulations and hotel
    closures on cons. Bill Roper told me he thinks that the 2020 NASFiC had
    to pay substantial penalties because it cancelled before the hotel or
    Ohio government had made it official that it couldn't be held.

    I haven't been able to find anything definite on this. The convention's
    domain has expired, so the website has gone away. The best I've found is
    a File 770 article linking to a dead page and quoting it:

    Like so many conventions affected by Covid-19, NASFIC
    has been involved in some very challenging negotiations.
    Because Ohio is trying to open up its economy, we are
    likely to have some heavy cancellation fees imposed
    by our facilities. Therefore, we are unlikely to be
    able to offer any meaningful level of membership
    refunds.

    https://file770.com/columbus-2020-nasfic-updates-cancellation-post/

    I can't find anything on whether they actually had to pay the
    cancellation fees or managed to get out of them. It would be an
    important data point, relevant to what filk concoms had to deal with, if
    a NASFiC got whacked with penalties. Does anyone have more information?

    Also, was it Discon III that kept its members hanging for a long time on whether it would reschedule, because it could have been similarly
    whacked for admitting the obvious before it was official?


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    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Sat Aug 5 02:42:52 2023
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
    Also, was it Discon III that kept its members hanging for a long
    time on whether it would reschedule, because it could have been
    similarly whacked for admitting the obvious before it was official?

    Yes. Its website also kept insisting it would be held in a hotel
    which had gone out of business.
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    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Someone Else@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Fri Aug 4 22:33:28 2023
    In Message-ID:<uak7m4$1fmmf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    I haven't been able to find anything definite on this. The convention's >domain has expired, so the website has gone away.

    I don't know the old site's name, so I can't try myself, but did you
    try the wayback machine (archive.org)?

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Someone Else on Sat Aug 5 06:40:13 2023
    On 8/4/23 10:33 PM, Someone Else wrote:
    In Message-ID:<uak7m4$1fmmf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:

    I haven't been able to find anything definite on this. The convention's
    domain has expired, so the website has gone away.

    I don't know the old site's name, so I can't try myself, but did you
    try the wayback machine (archive.org)?

    Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the website just transitions
    from warnings that the con might be liable for large sums to thanking
    members for a good convention.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200928092017/https://columbus2020nasfic.org/

    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Peter Trei@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Wed Aug 23 06:09:20 2023
    On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:42:42 AM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:
    On 8/4/23 10:33 PM, Someone Else wrote:
    In Message-ID:<uak7m4$1fmmf$1...@dont-email.me>,
    Gary McGath <ga...@mcgath.com> wrote:

    I haven't been able to find anything definite on this. The convention's >> domain has expired, so the website has gone away.

    I don't know the old site's name, so I can't try myself, but did you
    try the wayback machine (archive.org)?

    Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, the website just transitions
    from warnings that the con might be liable for large sums to thanking members for a good convention.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200928092017/https://columbus2020nasfic.org/

    It was just 3 years ago. Surely some of the concom are contactable.

    pt

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