I agree with E (VOID 2266, v. 41 n. 37 10 Mar) that CORIOLANUS
(Shakespeare), THE HOBBIT (Tolkien), KIM (Kipling), MOBY-DICK
(Melville), and Jane Austen are worth re-reading; and I have. I
re-read the 1969 Penguin rev. of Harbage's 1967 ed'n of the
COMPLETE WORKS (each play with its own editor; what H calls the
"non-dramatic poetry" e.g. VENUS AND ADONIS, sonnets; introductory
essays). I often quote Nabokov's "You never appreciate a good book
until you read it at least a second time", see his wonderful
LECTURES ON LITERATURE (F. Bowers ed. 1980), which incidentally has
the best treatment of JYKYLL & HYDE I know (S pronounced the
doctor's name jeek'l, it's Scots, as S was; to help pronounce N's
name there's a book in it, na-*book*-off; he'd probably welcome
[wherever he may be, 1899-1977] jokes on "Na book off", he used to
point out that the difference between a thing's cosmic
significance, and its comic significance, was a single sibilant).
(FWIW, Britt Ekland's dance in
THE WICKER MAN is far more erotic than the more explicit sex of
MIDSOMMAR.)
Here's a further reminder of Mary Robinette Kowal's range (VOID
2267). Whe Discon III in the midst of its hardships found itself
with no one in the chair, she stepped up to that task--which few
pros have done; perhaps few could, it's very unlike their ordinary
(if I may use that word) work. I was one of the Masquerade judges,
as I often am; another was Jill Eastlake, as she often is; the
third was Kowal--while chairing that Worldcon!--at which she was
jes' find (hello, fellow POGO fans).
In article <013674b3-4d22-46ad-877f-1ae212e74bb8n@googlegroups.com>, >evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com () wrote:
(FWIW, Britt Ekland's dance in
THE WICKER MAN is far more erotic than the more explicit sex of
MIDSOMMAR.)
Apparently a body double was used for Ekland.
Whoever that body double is, they deserve an Oscar.
. . .
I'm glad to hear you're still here. I thought of you when I recently
watched the Horrible Histories Prom on YouTube. Have you seen it,
either in person or online?
Speaking of which, I also watched the coronation. It's interesting
that they once again played Zadok the Priest for its intended purpose,
for just the tenth time ever.
Speaking of which, I also watched the coronation. It's interesting
that they once again played Zadok the Priest for its intended purpose,
for just the tenth time ever.
I didn't follow the coronation, but during one bit which I happened to
catch, The middle part of "Jupiter" from Holst's "The Planets" was sung
as a hymn. Apparently the British have filked it.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Speaking of which, I also watched the coronation. It's interesting
that they once again played Zadok the Priest for its intended
purpose, for just the tenth time ever.
Do you mean the coronation of a king or something more specific?
It expresses the wish each time that it will be the last time.
("May the king live forever.") So far that hasn't happened.
It expresses the wish each time that it will be the last time.
("May the king live forever.") So far that hasn't happened.
The last British king only made it to 56. But it's too soon to be
sure that Charles III won't live forever.
It's certainly been pointed out that if a monarch does live forever,
that would spare the expense of future royal coronations and funerals.
Trivia question: When and for whom was Britain's last royal funeral
(i.e. funeral of a monarch) before that of Elizabeth II?
Again I recommend Horrible Histories for lots of cool songs about lots
of history. It can be found on YouTube. Thanks mostly to their very
catchy Monarch Song I have memorized all the English/British rulers of
the past thousand-odd years, without intending to.
It's not quite filk, since I think all their tunes are original, but
they're often based on other well-known tunes. For instance compare
their "Borgia Family" song to the Addams Family TV show theme song.
Another bit of trivia I independently discovered is that Elizabeth II
ruled for more years than all the kings since the death of George III
(whom the US fought its revolution against two and half centuries ago)
put together.
George III himself was on the throne for a long time. The US fought not
only the Revolution but the War of 1812 against him.
On 5/24/23 6:06 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
It expresses the wish each time that it will be the last time.
("May the king live forever.") So far that hasn't happened.
The last British king only made it to 56. But it's too soon to be
sure that Charles III won't live forever.
It's always too soon to say he will live forever.
It's certainly been pointed out that if a monarch does live forever,
that would spare the expense of future royal coronations and funerals.
Trivia question: When and for whom was Britain's last royal funeral
(i.e. funeral of a monarch) before that of Elizabeth II?
I would assume George VI's funeral, around 1952. Wikipedia confirms
that's when his funeral was. I was an infant then.
Trivia question: When and for whom was Britain's last royal funeral
(i.e. funeral of a monarch) before that of Elizabeth II?
Gary McGath wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The last British king only made it to 56. But it's too soon to be
sure that Charles III won't live forever.
It's always too soon to say he will live forever.
Trivia question: When and for whom was Britain's last royal funeral
(i.e. funeral of a monarch) before that of Elizabeth II?
I would assume George VI's funeral, around 1952.
The Queen Mum, I'd reck.
"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Trivia question: When and for whom was Britain's last royal funeral
(i.e. funeral of a monarch) before that of Elizabeth II?
Richard III
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Elizabeth's mother was never a monarch. Neither was her husband.
A Queen Regnant, no, but definitely a Monarch.
And I am sure her husband was a King Regnant, something about his
brother abdicating the throne in 1936 or thereabouts, thus ascending on December 11th, IIRC, with the formal Coronation at Westminster Abbey on
May 12th, 1937.
Gary R. Schmidt <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote:
Gary McGath wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The last British king only made it to 56. But it's too soon to be
sure that Charles III won't live forever.
It's always too soon to say he will live forever.
True. But it's never too soon to say that he might. If not, maybe
his eldest son, who will likely be styled William V. Or his eldest
son's eldest son, who will likely rule as George VII before the end
of this century.
Trivia question: When and for whom was Britain's last royal funeral
(i.e. funeral of a monarch) before that of Elizabeth II?
I would assume George VI's funeral, around 1952.
Good guess, but wrong.
The Queen Mum, I'd reck.
Elizabeth's mother was never a monarch. Neither was her husband.
I just listened to "The Borgia Family," because of my interest in
the early modern period. Good one.
Another bit of trivia I independently discovered is that Elizabeth II
ruled for more years than all the kings since the death of George III
(whom the US fought its revolution against two and half centuries ago)
put together.
George III himself was on the throne for a long time.
The US fought not only the Revolution but the War of 1812 against
him.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
I just listened to "The Borgia Family," because of my interest in
the early modern period. Good one.
I also recommend "Born to Rule," the "All New Monarch Song," "Sweet
King Richard III," and "The Wives of Henry VIII." All of those are
are mostly early modern.
Gary McGath<garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
I just listened to "The Borgia Family," because of my interest inI also recommend "Born to Rule," the "All New Monarch Song," "Sweet
the early modern period. Good one.
King Richard III," and "The Wives of Henry VIII." All of those are
are mostly early modern.
Though it's a close-run thing. The kings will pull ahead on November
3rd of next year. (Unless King Charles, his son William, and *his*
son George all die before then, in which case Charlotte (currently age
8) becomes queen. Or, more likely, unless the UK votes to abolish the >monarchy.)
"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
(Unless King Charles, his son William, and *his* son George all
die before then, in which case Charlotte (currently age 8) becomes
queen. Or, more likely, unless the UK votes to abolish the monarchy.)
I thought that under the new inheritance law, Charlotte, being second
born, would be second in line, before George.
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
(Unless King Charles, his son William, and *his* son George all
die before then, in which case Charlotte (currently age 8) becomes
queen. Or, more likely, unless the UK votes to abolish the monarchy.)
I thought that under the new inheritance law, Charlotte, being second
born, would be second in line, before George.
Huh? Charlotte is second born *because* George is first born. Who
did you think was William's first-born child?
So if King Charles dies, his first-born child William becomes king,
and if William dies -- before or after Charles -- William's first-born
child George becomes king. Only if all three are dead does Charlotte
become queen.
It still feels weird that all these people, except Charles, are
younger than me. I remember reading a newspaper article announcing
the birth of William, and saying that people in the county neighboring
mine -- Prince William County -- were thrilled, even though it was
named for a different British prince of that name -- in 1731. Fairfax >County, where I live, split off from it in 1742. My reading that
article feels very recent, though he's in his 40s now.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I also recommend "Born to Rule," the "All New Monarch Song," "Sweet
King Richard III," and "The Wives of Henry VIII." All of those are
are mostly early modern.
The only unfortunate thing is that some of them are designated
"kids' videos," which means I can't save them to a list for future
reference. This is somehow supposed to protect children.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I also recommend "Born to Rule," the "All New Monarch Song," "Sweet
King Richard III," and "The Wives of Henry VIII." All of those are
are mostly early modern.
The only unfortunate thing is that some of them are designated
"kids' videos," which means I can't save them to a list for future
reference. This is somehow supposed to protect children.
Whatever app you're using, if it doesn't let you save whatever you
want to a list, why don't you bury it at a crossroads at midnight and
salt the earth.
Those videos aren't just for children. For instance the Wives of
Henry VIII song ends with a snippet of Greensleeves. I'm sure very
few children would recognize that tune, and even fewer would know that
the authorship of that song is traditionally (albeit wrongly) credited
to Henry VIII.
The US fought not only the Revolution but the War of 1812 against
him.
Right, technically speaking. But that was during the Regency period,
so it was actually the future George IV who was prosecuting the war.
kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
The US fought not only the Revolution but the War of 1812 against him.
Right, technically speaking. But that was during the Regency period,
so it was actually the future George IV who was prosecuting the war.
Although by George III's time, the monarch had little say in
government policy and it was Lord North and his cabinet who were
actually prosecuting the war. Indeed, I've seen it said that
Americans made George III the villain because Lord North wasn't
so well known.
Why was England's Edward I called Edward I rather than Edward IV?
He was preceded by three previous English kings named Edward:
Edward the Elder, Edward the Martyr, and Edward the Confessor.
In <u4li7f$31fqi$1...@dont-email.me> Gary McGath <ga...@mcgath.com> writes:
I didn't follow the coronation, but during one bit which I happened to >catch, The middle part of "Jupiter" from Holst's "The Planets" was sungYes, they have:
as a hymn. Apparently the British have filked it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Vow_to_Thee,_My_Country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZvylOSy5A
One of the concert bands I play with [ https://306wingconcertband.ca ] has an arrangement of it in our repertoire.
I have a similar problem with 'Lord of the Dance', and have been trying for a long
time to replace it in my head with 'Simple Things', the original and much better lyric.
I don't think I'll ever hear 'Appalachian Spring' without words in my head.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Why was England's Edward I called Edward I rather than Edward IV?
He was preceded by three previous English kings named Edward:
Edward the Elder, Edward the Martyr, and Edward the Confessor.
The current nominal King of Canada is called Charles III, even
though there was no King Charles I or II of Canada.
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Why was England's Edward I called Edward I rather than Edward IV?
He was preceded by three previous English kings named Edward:
Edward the Elder, Edward the Martyr, and Edward the Confessor.
The current nominal King of Canada is called Charles III, even
though there was no King Charles I or II of Canada.
Newfoundland, which is currently part of Canada, was already an
established English colony at the time of Charles I and Charles II.
On 6/6/23 11:49 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Gary McGath <garym@mcgath.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Why was England's Edward I called Edward I rather than Edward IV?
He was preceded by three previous English kings named Edward:
Edward the Elder, Edward the Martyr, and Edward the Confessor.
The current nominal King of Canada is called Charles III, even
though there was no King Charles I or II of Canada.
Newfoundland, which is currently part of Canada, was already an
established English colony at the time of Charles I and Charles II.
But no land under British rule was called Canada until the British took >Quebec from France, so Charles I and II weren't kings of Canada.
But no land under British rule was called Canada until the British
took Quebec from France, so Charles I and II weren't kings of Canada.
On 6/6/23 2:41 PM, Peter Trei wrote:
I have a similar problem with 'Lord of the Dance', and have been trying for a long"Simple Gifts."
time to replace it in my head with 'Simple Things', the original and much better lyric.
I don't think I'll ever hear 'Appalachian Spring' without words in my head.
Gary McGath <ga...@mcgath.com> wrote:
But no land under British rule was called Canada until the BritishI wish the British had fireproofed Quebec. I'm annoyed by all the
took Quebec from France, so Charles I and II weren't kings of Canada.
smoke from there this week. It shouldn't be possible to comfortably
stare directly at the sun, the air should be clean, the sky should
be blue, and the daily high temperature in June here in Virginia
shouldn't be in the 70s. I'm only comfortable when it's over 80
(27 C).
I wish the British had fireproofed Quebec. I'm annoyed by all the
smoke from there this week. It shouldn't be possible to comfortably
stare directly at the sun, the air should be clean, the sky should
be blue, and the daily high temperature in June here in Virginia
shouldn't be in the 70s. I'm only comfortable when it's over 80
(27 C).
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