• Chengdu Worldcon progress report

    From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 12:11:24 2023
    The first progress report for the Chengdu Worldcon is finally up at https://file770.com/wp-content/uploads/Progress-Report-1-English-Version.pdf


    Some points in the code of conduct could be explosive in Chinese territory:

    "Any acts of aggression, contempt, indifference ... are unacceptable."
    The inclusion of "indifference" is weird, but the ban on "contempt" can
    easily be used against unacceptable opinions. Likewise for "comments
    that belittle or demean others." No criticism of Lukianenko! "Offensive
    images" and "costumes that are historically or otherwise offensive" can
    cover a lot too. There's enough in the code for the con to kick out
    anyone who expresses politically unacceptable views. Other cons have had similar language, but they're especially dangerous in this context.

    Also: "The convention reserves the right to amend these rules at any
    time without prior or posted notice." So there can be rules no one was
    told about.


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    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Magewolf@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Tue Feb 21 14:27:44 2023
    On 2/21/23 12:11, Gary McGath wrote:
    The first progress report for the Chengdu Worldcon is finally up at https://file770.com/wp-content/uploads/Progress-Report-1-English-Version.pdf

    Some points in the code of conduct could be explosive in Chinese territory:

    "Any acts of aggression, contempt, indifference ... are unacceptable."
    The inclusion of "indifference" is weird, but the ban on "contempt" can easily be used against unacceptable opinions. Likewise for "comments
    that belittle or demean others." No criticism of Lukianenko! "Offensive images" and "costumes that are historically or otherwise offensive" can
    cover a lot too. There's enough in the code for the con to kick out
    anyone who expresses politically unacceptable views. Other cons have had similar language, but they're especially dangerous in this context.

    Also: "The convention reserves the right to amend these rules at any
    time without prior or posted notice." So there can be rules no one was
    told about.


    Not really,they are exactly as dangerous as at the other con. It is
    just that the iron boot of the people who love those rules extents to
    the whole country the con is being held in as well.

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  • From j.halpenny@rogers.com@21:1/5 to Magewolf on Tue Feb 21 18:11:38 2023
    On Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 2:27:47 PM UTC-5, Magewolf wrote:
    On 2/21/23 12:11, Gary McGath wrote:
    The first progress report for the Chengdu Worldcon is finally up at https://file770.com/wp-content/uploads/Progress-Report-1-English-Version.pdf

    Some points in the code of conduct could be explosive in Chinese territory:

    "Any acts of aggression, contempt, indifference ... are unacceptable."
    The inclusion of "indifference" is weird, but the ban on "contempt" can easily be used against unacceptable opinions. Likewise for "comments
    that belittle or demean others." No criticism of Lukianenko! "Offensive images" and "costumes that are historically or otherwise offensive" can cover a lot too. There's enough in the code for the con to kick out
    anyone who expresses politically unacceptable views. Other cons have had similar language, but they're especially dangerous in this context.

    Also: "The convention reserves the right to amend these rules at any
    time without prior or posted notice." So there can be rules no one was
    told about.


    Not really,they are exactly as dangerous as at the other con. It is
    just that the iron boot of the people who love those rules extents to
    the whole country the con is being held in as well.

    Are they trying to copy some other recent cons?

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