I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
In article <tqcnv4$jld$1@reader2.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F. Lynch) wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
In British usage, there are left-libertarians and right-libertarians.
Right-libertarians are somewhat like US libertarians, but tend to feel
they have a right to do whatever they like on social class grounds.
Left-libertarians are much less interested in the rather absolute view of property and economic freedom that seems common with right- libertarians. They're much more interested in freedom of speech, thought and identity.
My usenet feed must be slow, this has only just cropped up here
despite it been discussed for the past week on uae.
On 1/19/23 9:40 PM, John Dallman wrote:
In article <tqcnv4$jld$1@reader2.panix.com>, kfl@KeithLynch.net (Keith F.
Lynch) wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
In British usage, there are left-libertarians and right-libertarians.
Right-libertarians are somewhat like US libertarians, but tend to feel
they have a right to do whatever they like on social class grounds.
Left-libertarians are much less interested in the rather absolute view of
property and economic freedom that seems common with right- libertarians.
They're much more interested in freedom of speech, thought and identity.
The terms have also shown up in US discussion. They're indicators more
of style and alliances than of content. In the US, left libertarians are
more likely to stress civil liberties issues and form alliances with >left-leaning organizations like the ACLU. Right libertarians stress
economic issues; the Mises Institute is a prime example.
Not British, born and raised in SoCal.
I was originally drawn to the libertarian movement (even the LP
for a while) by the civil liberties planks of their platform,
then chased away by the propertarian planks.
Since 1980, after Reagan implemented some Libertarian planks, I
identified as socialist.
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure libertarian, it's right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism or right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political philosophy that supports capitalist property rights and defends market distribution of natural resources and private property. The term right-libertarianism is used to distinguish this class of views on the nature of property and capital
from left-libertarianism, a type of libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural resources. In
contrast to socialist libertarianism, right-libertarianism supports free-market capitalism, Like most forms of libertarianism, it supports
civil liberties, especially natural law, negative rights, the
non-aggression principle, and a major reversal of the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
On 1/21/23 5:14 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure libertarian,
it's
right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism or
right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political philosophy that
supports capitalist property rights and defends market distribution of
natural resources and private property. The term right-libertarianism
is used to distinguish this class of views on the nature of property
and capital from left-libertarianism, a type of libertarianism that
combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural
resources. In contrast to socialist libertarianism,
right-libertarianism supports free-market capitalism, Like most forms
of libertarianism, it supports civil liberties, especially natural law,
negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major reversal of
the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
Whatever Wikipedia might say, "socialist libertarianism" is an
incoherent concept. Without property rights, your existence is at the
mercy of the allocating authority, be it a workers' collective or a
central government. "Self-ownership" is meaningless without any right to
keep what you produce.
On 1/21/23 5:14 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure libertarian, it's right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism or right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political philosophy that supports capitalist property rights and defends market distribution of natural resources and private property. The term right-libertarianism is used to distinguish this class of views on the nature of property and capital
from left-libertarianism, a type of libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural resources. In contrast to socialist libertarianism, right-libertarianism supports free-market capitalism, Like most forms of libertarianism, it supports civil liberties, especially natural law, negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major reversal of the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianismWhatever Wikipedia might say, "socialist libertarianism" is an
incoherent concept. Without property rights, your existence is at the
mercy of the allocating authority, be it a workers' collective or a
central government. "Self-ownership" is meaningless without any right to
keep what you produce.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:31:48 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:
On 1/21/23 5:14 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a "right-libertarian"?
The latter term was used by a British person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure libertarian,
it's
right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism or
right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political philosophy that
supports capitalist property rights and defends market distribution of
natural resources and private property. The term right-libertarianism
is used to distinguish this class of views on the nature of property
and capital from left-libertarianism, a type of libertarianism that
combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural
resources. In contrast to socialist libertarianism,
right-libertarianism supports free-market capitalism, Like most forms
of libertarianism, it supports civil liberties, especially natural law,
negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major reversal of
the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
Whatever Wikipedia might say, "socialist libertarianism" is anOne could go further and elevate the idea of ownership to being the
incoherent concept. Without property rights, your existence is at the
mercy of the allocating authority, be it a workers' collective or a
central government. "Self-ownership" is meaningless without any right to keep what you produce.
central concept of liberalism. The social contract can be seen as
a proprietary affair, with the vote representing a share of
ownership of the collective. Historically, the joint stock
company was invented around the time of the Mayflower Compact.
If government were seen as an enterprise in which every citizen
has a proprietary interest, political divisiveness would be
converted into a rational process of finding optimal solutions
for making government run smoothly. This is analogous to all
shareholders wanting a company to operate so as to maximize
return on investment.
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:59:53 AM UTC-5, Charles Packer
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:31:48 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:
On 1/21/23 5:14 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:One could go further and elevate the idea of ownership to being
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a
"right-libertarian"? The latter term was used by a British
person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure
libertarian, it's
right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism
or right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political
philosophy that supports capitalist property rights and
defends market distribution of natural resources and private
property. The term right-libertarianism is used to
distinguish this class of views on the nature of property
and capital from left-libertarianism, a type of
libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an
egalitarian approach to natural resources. In contrast to
socialist libertarianism, right-libertarianism supports
free-market capitalism, Like most forms of libertarianism,
it supports civil liberties, especially natural law,
negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major
reversal of the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
Whatever Wikipedia might say, "socialist libertarianism" is
an incoherent concept. Without property rights, your
existence is at the mercy of the allocating authority, be it
a workers' collective or a central government.
"Self-ownership" is meaningless without any right to keep
what you produce.
the central concept of liberalism. The social contract can be
seen as a proprietary affair, with the vote representing a
share of ownership of the collective. Historically, the joint
stock company was invented around the time of the Mayflower
Compact. If government were seen as an enterprise in which
every citizen has a proprietary interest, political
divisiveness would be converted into a rational process of
finding optimal solutions for making government run smoothly.
This is analogous to all shareholders wanting a company to
operate so as to maximize return on investment.
You've never run into an "activist shareholder", I take it.
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in news:180e62b7-cdfc-4bdf-9a51-1d37489b8a0dn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:59:53 AM UTC-5, Charles Packer
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:31:48 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:
On 1/21/23 5:14 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:One could go further and elevate the idea of ownership to being
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a
"right-libertarian"? The latter term was used by a British
person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure
libertarian, it's
right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism
or right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political
philosophy that supports capitalist property rights and
defends market distribution of natural resources and private
property. The term right-libertarianism is used to
distinguish this class of views on the nature of property
and capital from left-libertarianism, a type of
libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an
egalitarian approach to natural resources. In contrast to
socialist libertarianism, right-libertarianism supports
free-market capitalism, Like most forms of libertarianism,
it supports civil liberties, especially natural law,
negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major
reversal of the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
Whatever Wikipedia might say, "socialist libertarianism" is
an incoherent concept. Without property rights, your
existence is at the mercy of the allocating authority, be it
a workers' collective or a central government.
"Self-ownership" is meaningless without any right to keep
what you produce.
the central concept of liberalism. The social contract can be
seen as a proprietary affair, with the vote representing a
share of ownership of the collective. Historically, the joint
stock company was invented around the time of the Mayflower
Compact. If government were seen as an enterprise in which
every citizen has a proprietary interest, political
divisiveness would be converted into a rational process of
finding optimal solutions for making government run smoothly.
This is analogous to all shareholders wanting a company to
operate so as to maximize return on investment.
You've never run into an "activist shareholder", I take it.
The other term for it is "minnority shareholder." Or "*very*
minority shareholder." It's rare they have any real pull, other
than convincing other shareholders to go along.
On 29/01/2023 11:44, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote inHere in Oz they're having quite an effect at getting the mobs
news:180e62b7-cdfc-4bdf-9a51-1d37489b8a0dn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:59:53 AM UTC-5, Charles
Packer wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 09:31:48 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:
On 1/21/23 5:14 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:One could go further and elevate the idea of ownership to
On 1/19/2023 6:41 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
I know what a libertarian is, but what is a
"right-libertarian"? The latter term was used by a British
person. Thanks.
From what I've been reading it seems there is no pure
libertarian, it's
right-, left-, and other flavors.
Right-libertarian from Wiki.
Right-libertarianism, also known as libertarian capitalism
or right-wing libertarianism, is a libertarian political
philosophy that supports capitalist property rights and
defends market distribution of natural resources and
private property. The term right-libertarianism is used to
distinguish this class of views on the nature of property
and capital from left-libertarianism, a type of
libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an
egalitarian approach to natural resources. In contrast to
socialist libertarianism, right-libertarianism supports
free-market capitalism, Like most forms of libertarianism,
it supports civil liberties, especially natural law,
negative rights, the non-aggression principle, and a major
reversal of the modern welfare state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
Whatever Wikipedia might say, "socialist libertarianism" is
an incoherent concept. Without property rights, your
existence is at the mercy of the allocating authority, be it
a workers' collective or a central government.
"Self-ownership" is meaningless without any right to keep
what you produce.
being the central concept of liberalism. The social contract
can be seen as a proprietary affair, with the vote
representing a share of ownership of the collective.
Historically, the joint stock company was invented around the
time of the Mayflower Compact. If government were seen as an
enterprise in which every citizen has a proprietary interest,
political divisiveness would be converted into a rational
process of finding optimal solutions for making government
run smoothly. This is analogous to all shareholders wanting a
company to operate so as to maximize return on investment.
You've never run into an "activist shareholder", I take it.
The other term for it is "minnority shareholder." Or "*very*
minority shareholder." It's rare they have any real pull, other
than convincing other shareholders to go along.
that Superannuation Funds[1] like to invest in to change their
behaviour.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
1 - Like a Pension Fund in the USA, but often across industries,
not just union- or whatever-controlled. And everyone in Oz who
works has to be a member of a super fund, so they play with
very, very large sums of money.
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