• MT VOID, 11/18/22 -- Vol. 41, No. 21, Whole Number 2250

    From evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 07:22:29 2022
    THE MT VOID
    11/18/22 -- Vol. 41, No. 21, Whole Number 2250

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    Topics:
    Mini Reviews, Part 4 (BLOOD RELATIVES, NOPE, VESPER)
    (film reviews by Mark R. Leeper
    and Evelyn C. Leeper)
    Firemen (letter of comment by Sam Long)
    NOSFERATU (letters of comment by Gary McGath and Kevin R)
    This Week's Reading (THE SCIENCE OF MURDER) (book comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)

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    TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 4 (film reviews by Mark R. Leeper and
    Evelyn C. Leeper)

    This is the fourth batch of mini-reviews, all films of the
    fantastic.

    BLOOD RELATIVES: BLOOD RELATIVES is described as having a "Yiddish
    vampire", but this is a bit of an inaccuracy. Yiddish is a
    language, not an ethnicity. What it has is a Jewish vampire, with
    roots in Europe, who sprinkles his speech with Yiddish words (and
    hip dialogue). This is underlined by a klezmer soundtrack. The
    film is a comedy-drama--there is plenty of humor, but some
    underlying dark elements. (One bit of humorous reference is naming
    a minor character Quincy Morris.) The vampire is not the evil
    monster of traditional vampire films, on a constant killing spree,
    but someone trying to stay under the radar, trying to sustain
    himself with as little killing as possible. When his daughter
    shows up (another change from the standard vampire story--most
    vampires do not have biological children), she has very different
    ideas, or at least is still trying to figure out her place in the
    world. BLOOD RELATIVES is definitely a new take on the vampire
    mythos.

    Released 22 November 2022. Rating: low +2 (-4 to +4) or 7/10

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21818188/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_relatives_2022>

    NOPE: NOPE is the third (and latest) film from director Jordan
    Peele, who burst upon the horror film scene in 2017 with GET OUT,
    and followed it up with US (2019). For all three Peele also wrote
    and produced as well. The editing is designed to give much of the
    film the texture of found footage.

    Many filmmakers have a fantastic first film (just as many authors
    have a fantastic first novels), but then they have a "sophomore
    slump"--their second film is a real let-down. Poole avoided this;
    US may not be quite as good as GET OUT, but it is certainly a good
    film. However, his third film showed this decline. Poole's career
    reminded us of that of M. Night Shyamalan: THE SIXTH SENSE was
    great, UNBREAKABLE was good, but SIGNS (an alien invasion film like
    NOPE) was a disappointment. Ultimately NOPE is also a
    disappointment, inscrutable and incoherent.

    Released theatrically 22 July 2022. Rating: low +1 (-4 to +4) or
    5/10

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10954984/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/nope>

    VESPER: VESPER is a film set in a post-ecological disaster world,
    where the disaster was caused by genetic engineering--humans
    botched controlling nature, now nature is getting its revenge.
    (Although some of the revenge seems to be from a ruling group that
    controls the seeds to grow food--seeds which are good for only one
    season. This is not science fiction.)

    This is yet another film with weird organisms (other reviewers have
    also noted a similarity to ANNIHILATION). But in this film the
    exteriors lack any bright colors, making the world look dingy and
    gray. There are also mutant humans that have been created by
    biology and botany and electronics. The pacing is somewhat slow,
    more so in the second half.

    Released theatrically 30 September 2022. Rating: +1 (-4 to +4), or
    6/10.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20225374/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/vesper_2022>

    [-mrl/ecl]

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    TOPIC: Firemen (letter of comment by Sam Long)

    In response to Sam Long's comments on firemen in the 11/11/22 issue
    of the MT VOID, Fred Lerner writes:

    In "American Railroads: Decline and Renaissance in the Twentieth
    Century" by Robert E. Gallamore and John R. Meyer (Harvard
    University Press, 2014) we are told that "When a railroad was able
    to replace substantially its steam engine roster with
    diesel-electric locomotives, it could retire roundhouses,
    specialized steam maintenance mechanics and facilities, coal
    chutes, water tanks, and firefighters in the engine". Evidently
    the editorial staff at Harvard University Press knows more about
    political correctness than about steam railroading. [-fl]

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    TOPIC: NOSFERATU (letters of comment by Gary McGath and Kevin R)

    In response to Evelyn's comments on NOSFERATU in the 11/11/22
    issue of the MT VOID, Gary McGath writes:

    On October 28, I provided live accompaniment for NOSFERATU at the
    Plaistow, NH, public library. The version the library used
    replaced the characters' names with the names of Stoker's
    characters. Count Orlok became Count Dracula, Hutter became
    Jonathon (sic) Harker, etc. I found this mildly annoying, but it
    wouldn't really matter if you hadn't seen the original version of
    the movie.

    The "werewolf" is pretty unimpressive. It doesn't look especially
    dangerous, and the bit with it could have been left out at no loss.

    There are some scenes where Orlok is out in the daytime, most
    notably the one where he packs his cart with coffins before leaving
    the castle. This is inconsistent with the premise that he dies if
    he's out at sunrise. Unless maybe it's only the sunrise, not
    daylight as such, that kills him. He isn't in the direct rays of
    the sun when he vaporizes. [-gmg]

    Evelyn responds:

    Actually, it's not clear that he *is* out in the daytime in that
    scene. NOSFERATU was filmed day-for-night, and then all the night
    scenes were tinted blue. However, the various versions floating
    around (including the out that replaced all the names) did not have
    any tinting. I would need to watch the tinted version to know
    whether that was actually daytime. (We ended up with the same
    version you saw, though a series of problems with the library
    getting a better version.) [-ecl]

    Kevin R writes:

    In 1992's BATMAN RETURNS, the character played by Christopher
    Walken is named "Max Shreck," with only the one "c" (<https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/>).

    A wink from Tim Burton? [-kr]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    THE SCIENCE OF MURDER: THE FORENSICS OF AGATHA CHRISTIE by Carla
    Valentine (Sourcebooks, ISBN 978-1-728-25184-4) covers a lot of
    ground, but overlooks one of the key tropes in Christie's novels:
    the intentional identification (or rather mis-identification) of
    corpses (and living persons). Out of thirty-three Hercule Poirot
    novels and twelve Miss Marple novels, for example, there are nine
    intentional misidentifications of corpses, two dozen people who are
    not who they claim to be (including three in one book and even more
    in another), as well as at least twelve people in disguise. One
    novel has not only a misidentification of a corpse, but *three*
    cases of false identity. (And that's not even the most extreme or
    famous example!)

    I was disappointed that the book is basically a book about
    forensics, with some examples from Christie's work, rather than a
    discussion of Christie's work from a forensic perspective. This is
    made even more disappointing in that Valentine has decide that her
    readers might not be familiar with Christie's work, so she won't
    give any spoilers. For those of us who know the stories, this is
    annoying. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Mark Leeper
    mleeper@optonline.net


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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to eleeper@optonline.net on Sun Nov 20 11:52:30 2022
    On 11/20/22 10:22 AM, eleeper@optonline.net wrote:
    BLOOD RELATIVES: BLOOD RELATIVES is described as having a "Yiddish
    vampire", but this is a bit of an inaccuracy. Yiddish is a
    language, not an ethnicity. What it has is a Jewish vampire, with
    roots in Europe, who sprinkles his speech with Yiddish words (and
    hip dialogue). This is underlined by a klezmer soundtrack. The
    film is a comedy-drama--there is plenty of humor, but some
    underlying dark elements.

    The standard joke about Jewish vampires is that holding up a cross fails
    to ward them off. Does it do that?
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Tim Merrigan@21:1/5 to garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com on Sun Nov 20 10:22:45 2022
    On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:52:30 -0500, Gary McGath
    <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

    On 11/20/22 10:22 AM, eleeper@optonline.net wrote:
    BLOOD RELATIVES: BLOOD RELATIVES is described as having a "Yiddish
    vampire", but this is a bit of an inaccuracy. Yiddish is a
    language, not an ethnicity. What it has is a Jewish vampire, with
    roots in Europe, who sprinkles his speech with Yiddish words (and
    hip dialogue). This is underlined by a klezmer soundtrack. The
    film is a comedy-drama--there is plenty of humor, but some
    underlying dark elements.

    The standard joke about Jewish vampires is that holding up a cross fails
    to ward them off. Does it do that?

    That would depend on why the cross is significant. If it's as a
    representation of Christianity, then yeah, it shouldn't have any
    effect on non Christians, but if, for instance, it significance is as
    a representation of a Cross road (where two paths come together), long
    standing areas of strong magic*, then the beliefs system of the person
    wielding it, or of the vampire, shouldn't matter.

    I'll note that pre Stoker vampire lore included burying the vampire's, separated, head at a crossroad.

    *a Y or T intersection, where three paths come together is even
    stronger magic.
    --

    Qualified immunity = virtual impunity.

    Tim Merrigan

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  • From Gary McGath@21:1/5 to Tim Merrigan on Sun Nov 20 14:46:18 2022
    On 11/20/22 1:22 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:52:30 -0500, Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

    On 11/20/22 10:22 AM, eleeper@optonline.net wrote:
    BLOOD RELATIVES: BLOOD RELATIVES is described as having a "Yiddish
    vampire", but this is a bit of an inaccuracy. Yiddish is a
    language, not an ethnicity. What it has is a Jewish vampire, with
    roots in Europe, who sprinkles his speech with Yiddish words (and
    hip dialogue). This is underlined by a klezmer soundtrack. The
    film is a comedy-drama--there is plenty of humor, but some
    underlying dark elements.

    The standard joke about Jewish vampires is that holding up a cross fails
    to ward them off. Does it do that?

    That would depend on why the cross is significant. If it's as a representation of Christianity, then yeah, it shouldn't have any
    effect on non Christians, but if, for instance, it significance is as
    a representation of a Cross road (where two paths come together), long standing areas of strong magic*, then the beliefs system of the person wielding it, or of the vampire, shouldn't matter.

    I'll note that pre Stoker vampire lore included burying the vampire's, separated, head at a crossroad.

    *a Y or T intersection, where three paths come together is even
    stronger magic.

    Another possibility: When a vampire victim dies, the soul goes to the
    Christian Heaven or Hell. The vampire spirit that takes over the body
    witnesses this happening and learns empirically that Christianity is
    true. The vampire, regardless of the person's previous beliefs, becomes cruciphobic as a result.

    By the theory you suggest, vampires would hate Boston.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Someone Else@21:1/5 to Gary McGath on Sun Nov 20 16:14:42 2022
    In Message-ID:<tldm0e$3i43r$3@dont-email.me>,
    Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:

    On 11/20/22 10:22 AM, eleeper@optonline.net wrote:
    BLOOD RELATIVES: BLOOD RELATIVES is described as having a "Yiddish
    vampire", but this is a bit of an inaccuracy. Yiddish is a
    language, not an ethnicity. What it has is a Jewish vampire, with
    roots in Europe, who sprinkles his speech with Yiddish words (and
    hip dialogue). This is underlined by a klezmer soundtrack. The
    film is a comedy-drama--there is plenty of humor, but some
    underlying dark elements.

    The standard joke about Jewish vampires is that holding up a cross fails
    to ward them off. Does it do that?

    Imagine you were a vampire nowhere near the Middle East and don't
    know who Jesus is but the day after he dies you gotta figure out why
    lower case t's started hurting.
    - Andrew Nadeau @TheAndrewNadeau

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Someone Else on Sun Nov 20 22:40:09 2022
    Someone Else <someone.else@example.com.invalid> wrote:
    Imagine you were a vampire nowhere near the Middle East and don't
    know who Jesus is but the day after he dies you gotta figure out why
    lower case t's started hurting.
    - Andrew Nadeau @TheAndrewNadeau

    That would indeed be mystifying. Especially since lowercase wasn't
    invented until several centuries later.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Joy Beeson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 20:38:07 2022
    On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 10:22:45 -0800, Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com>
    wrote:

    *a Y or T intersection, where three paths come together is even
    stronger magic.

    Would a five-point intersection be stronger or weaker?

    Does it matter whether it's five separate roads, or some of the roads
    continue through the intersection? (Every time I leave home, I have
    to deal with the intersection of Winona Avenue, King's Highway, Park
    Avenute, and Argonne Road. Chestnut Street was truncated and no
    longer participates.)

    A roundabout replaces a four-point intersection with four three-point intersections. I sense a story here.

    And if a five-point is weaker, replacing it with five strong
    three-pointers should be interesting.

    --
    Joy Beeson
    joy beeson at centurylink dot net
    http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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  • From Keith F. Lynch@21:1/5 to Joy Beeson on Mon Nov 21 04:01:19 2022
    Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
    Would a five-point intersection be stronger or weaker?

    There's a place aptly named "Seven Corners" here in Virginia. It's
    the corner of Route 7 (Leesburg Pike), East Broad Street, Route 50
    (Arlington Boulevard), Sleepy Hollow Road, Hillwood Avenue, and Wilson Boulevard. It's easily found by name in Google Earth, but misplaced
    by half a mile to the southeast. The only magic I've noticed there is
    the power to cloud the minds of motorists (and apparently of Google).

    Somebody please tell me whether it would be an especially good or
    especially bad place to bury a vampire, and whether this depends on
    whether there's a full moon and on whether it's midnight. I suspect
    its a bad place for a burial, since at any hour of the day or night
    you'd be likely to be hit by a car if you're in the intersection.

    Attempted burials would certainly explain all the potholes.
    --
    Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/
    Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.

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  • From Paul Dormer@21:1/5 to Tim Merrigan on Mon Nov 21 11:59:00 2022
    In article <a7rknhda1rkgsabsd82hq9ndomtj1gpua0@4ax.com>, tppm@ca.rr.com
    (Tim Merrigan) wrote:


    That would depend on why the cross is significant. If it's as a representation of Christianity, then yeah, it shouldn't have any
    effect on non Christians, but if, for instance, it significance is as
    a representation of a Cross road (where two paths come together), long standing areas of strong magic*, then the beliefs system of the person wielding it, or of the vampire, shouldn't matter.

    In the 1989 Doctor Who story The Curse of Fenric, set in Northumberland
    in WWII, a vicar (played by Nicholas Parsons) fails to ward off the vampire-like aliens because he has lost his faith. But a company of
    Soviet soldiers who have turned up ward them off with the hammer and
    sickle, because they are devout communists.

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