[From rasfw]
Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
[From rasfw]
Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
[From rasfw]
Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
I'm sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with Hal, Meg, and all her other family and friends.
Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman
On 6/29/2022 1:59 PM, Alan Woodford wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> >> wrote:
[From rasfw]
Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
I'm sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with Hal, Meg, and all her other
family and friends.
Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman
As are mine. I had hope one day to meet. The best are gone too soon, no >matter how many years they have.
In article <t9j4ir$1mkn4$1...@dont-email.me>,
Jay E. Morris <mor...@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
On 6/29/2022 1:59 PM, Alan Woodford wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
[From rasfw]
Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
I'm sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with Hal, Meg, and all her other >> family and friends.
Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman
As are mine. I had hope one day to meet. The best are gone too soon, no >matter how many years they have.(Hal Heydt)
I'm sorry that there are a lot of people she knew on line that
she never got to meet. She used to maintain that she had a total
fan base of 42 (because of rather disappointing book sales...but
I have my own theories about that). Not sure how many zeros
should be tacked onto that.
The last con she got to was Clockwork Alchemy this past spring,
where she got to meet and talk with Patricia Wrede at some
length, to (by all appearances) the delight of both of them.
And, yes, far too soon. With the difference in our ages (not
quite 7 years) being close to the demographic difference in life
expectency by sex, I had hopes that we would go more or less
together. Alas, not to be. I think each of us hoped to go last to
ease the pain for the other, so in that sense, I'm just as glad
that she isn't looking at living without me. It could so easily
have been the other way around.
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 11:49:03 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <t9j4ir$1mkn4$1...@dont-email.me>,
Jay E. Morris <mor...@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
On 6/29/2022 1:59 PM, Alan Woodford wrote:(Hal Heydt)
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT), Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote:
[From rasfw]
Seanan McGuire, others, report that Dorothy passed away.
https://twitter.com/seananmcguire/status/1541996445238120448
I'm sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with Hal, Meg, and all her other >> >> family and friends.
Alan Woodford
The Greying Lensman
As are mine. I had hope one day to meet. The best are gone too soon, no
matter how many years they have.
I'm sorry that there are a lot of people she knew on line that
she never got to meet. She used to maintain that she had a total
fan base of 42 (because of rather disappointing book sales...but
I have my own theories about that). Not sure how many zeros
should be tacked onto that.
The last con she got to was Clockwork Alchemy this past spring,
where she got to meet and talk with Patricia Wrede at some
length, to (by all appearances) the delight of both of them.
And, yes, far too soon. With the difference in our ages (not
quite 7 years) being close to the demographic difference in life
expectency by sex, I had hopes that we would go more or less
together. Alas, not to be. I think each of us hoped to go last to
ease the pain for the other, so in that sense, I'm just as glad
that she isn't looking at living without me. It could so easily
have been the other way around.
She has a lot more than 42 fans just in the regulars of
these newsgroups.
Is there a designated charity, or something we can contribute to
in her memory?
pt
Nothing designated. At least, nothing she told me about. She
probably wouldn't have thought anyone would donate in her memory
As an aside... I just got a spam call (on the house line) from
one of those Indian call centers, probably medical services
scammers, asking for her. I told him that she was no longer at
this number, but that if he managed to get in touch with, ask her
to call. (Pause.) Click.
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job, they
don't necessarily know that the call center they're working for
is running scams.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job, they don't necessarily know that the call center they're working for is running
scams.
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job, they don't
necessarily know that the call center they're working for is running
scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales pitch
without knowing that's what they're doing? The car warranty fraudsters,
for instance, have to explain why they don't already have any
information on the "expiring" car warranty they've supposedly called about.
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1@dont-email.me>,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales
pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The car
warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why they
don't already have any information on the "expiring" car
warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the button
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICqs.10D9@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be "yes,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales
pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The car
warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why they
don't already have any information on the "expiring" car
warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the button
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
what's your credit card number?"
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICqs.10D9@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be "yes,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales
pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The car
warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why they
don't already have any information on the "expiring" car
warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the button
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
what's your credit card number?"
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >>news:rEICqs.10D9@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be "yes,
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales
pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The car
warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why they
don't already have any information on the "expiring" car
warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the button
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all, would be
"Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that it's a
scam then hang up.)
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl62lq8s69ffi0de0766@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICqs.10D9@kithrup.com:
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the buttonI'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be "yes,
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all, would be
"Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that it's a
scam then hang up.)
(Hal Heydt)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some chirpy
voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you may have an
extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the lead in and
can hang up very quickly.
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be "yes,
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales
pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The car
warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why they
don't already have any information on the "expiring" car
warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the button
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all, would be
"Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that it's a(Hal Heydt)
scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some chirpy
voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you may have an
extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the lead in and
can hang up very quickly.
On 7/4/22 5:37 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl62lq8s69ffi0de0766@4ax.com>,
(Hal Heydt)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some chirpy
voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you may have an
extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the lead in and
can hang up very quickly.
The recording in the calls I get always says "This is our last attempt
to reach you." Starting with an obvious lie is a giveaway.
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini(Hal Heydt)
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be "yes,
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent sales
pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The car
warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why they
don't already have any information on the "expiring" car
warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the button
to connect to a live person to ask if the extended warranty is
for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all, would be
"Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that it's a
scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some chirpy
voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you may have an
extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the lead in and
can hang up very quickly.
The weird thing is that I don't think I've ever gotten a call for an
extended warranty. Charity scams, Social Security scams, 'your
computer is infected' scams, yes, but not the car ones. That comes
(rarely) in junk paper mail.
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt
wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini(Hal Heydt)
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a
different department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a
job, they don't necessarily know that the call center
they're working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent
sales pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The
car warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why
they don't already have any information on the "expiring"
car warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the
button to connect to a live person to ask if the extended
warranty is for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
"yes, what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all,
would be "Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that
it's a scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some
chirpy voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you
may have an extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the
lead in and can hang up very quickly.
The weird thing is that I don't think I've ever gotten a call
for an extended warranty. Charity scams, Social Security scams,
'your computer is infected' scams, yes, but not the car ones.
That comes (rarely) in junk paper mail.
If its a robot, I hang up quickly. If its a human, I ask if
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl62lq8s69ffi0de0766@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in >>>news:rEICqs.10D9@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a
different department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job,
they don't necessarily know that the call center they're
working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent
sales pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The
car warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why
they don't already have any information on the "expiring" car >>>>>warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the
button to connect to a live person to ask if the extended
warranty is for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
"yes, what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all,
would be "Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that
it's a scam then hang up.)
(Hal Heydt)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some chirpy
voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you may have
an extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the lead in
and can hang up very quickly.
Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5d16a373-16e9-40ec...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J Heydt
wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini(Hal Heydt)
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a
different department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a
job, they don't necessarily know that the call center
they're working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a fraudulent
sales pitch without knowing that's what they're doing? The
car warranty fraudsters, for instance, have to explain why
they don't already have any information on the "expiring"
car warranty they've supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the
button to connect to a live person to ask if the extended
warranty is for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968 one.
"yes, what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at all,
would be "Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify that
it's a scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some
chirpy voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you
may have an extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing the
lead in and can hang up very quickly.
The weird thing is that I don't think I've ever gotten a call
for an extended warranty. Charity scams, Social Security scams,
'your computer is infected' scams, yes, but not the car ones.
That comes (rarely) in junk paper mail.
If its a robot, I hang up quickly. If its a human, I ask ifThe most annoying ones I get are from the dealership I bought my
car from wanting to buy it back. (Used cars are a very hot market
right now, and they know it's low mileage and in very good shape
because they've done 100% of the maintenance on it.) Aside from not
having any interest in selling it, my only thought is, "You want to
buy it back because you don't have enough inventory. So if I sell
it to you, what will *I* drive when you don't have anything else to
sell me?"
They're beginning to get the message, from the hostile response
they get every time.
Joel Polowin <jpolowin@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a different
department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a job, they
don't necessarily know that the call center they're working for is
running scams.
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 2:41:31 PM UTC-4, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5d16a373-16e9-40ec...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J HeydtThe most annoying ones I get are from the dealership I bought
wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini(Hal Heydt)
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a
different department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a
job, they don't necessarily know that the call center
they're working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a
fraudulent sales pitch without knowing that's what
they're doing? The car warranty fraudsters, for
instance, have to explain why they don't already have
any information on the "expiring" car warranty they've
supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the
button to connect to a live person to ask if the
extended warranty is for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968
one.
"yes, what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at
all, would be "Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify
that it's a scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some
chirpy voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you
may have an extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing
the lead in and can hang up very quickly.
The weird thing is that I don't think I've ever gotten a call
for an extended warranty. Charity scams, Social Security
scams, 'your computer is infected' scams, yes, but not the
car ones. That comes (rarely) in junk paper mail.
If its a robot, I hang up quickly. If its a human, I ask if
my car from wanting to buy it back. (Used cars are a very hot
market right now, and they know it's low mileage and in very
good shape because they've done 100% of the maintenance on it.)
Aside from not having any interest in selling it, my only
thought is, "You want to buy it back because you don't have
enough inventory. So if I sell it to you, what will *I* drive
when you don't have anything else to sell me?"
They're beginning to get the message, from the hostile response
they get every time.
Used car prices are insane. I've had my Tesla for 3 years and
50,000 miles at this point. Out of curiosity, I recently located
a similar one on Tesla's 'Used Models' page.
it was being offered for $20,000 MORE than I paid for the new
car.
On 7/6/2022 4:23 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
news:66608756-3f0e-43de-be7e-d224ca40b6ebn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 2:41:31 PM UTC-4, Jibini KulaNew car prices aren't much better. Supply and demand.
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5d16a373-16e9-40ec...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J HeydtThe most annoying ones I get are from the dealership I bought
wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini(Hal Heydt)
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a
different department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a
job, they don't necessarily know that the call center
they're working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a
fraudulent sales pitch without knowing that's what
they're doing? The car warranty fraudsters, for
instance, have to explain why they don't already have
any information on the "expiring" car warranty they've
supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the
button to connect to a live person to ask if the
extended warranty is for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968
one.
be "yes, what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at
all, would be "Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify
that it's a scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some
chirpy voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and
you may have an extended warranty...". One gets to
recognizing the lead in and can hang up very quickly.
The weird thing is that I don't think I've ever gotten a
call for an extended warranty. Charity scams, Social
Security scams, 'your computer is infected' scams, yes, but
not the car ones. That comes (rarely) in junk paper mail.
If its a robot, I hang up quickly. If its a human, I ask if
my car from wanting to buy it back. (Used cars are a very hot
market right now, and they know it's low mileage and in very
good shape because they've done 100% of the maintenance on
it.) Aside from not having any interest in selling it, my
only thought is, "You want to buy it back because you don't
have enough inventory. So if I sell it to you, what will *I*
drive when you don't have anything else to sell me?"
They're beginning to get the message, from the hostile
response they get every time.
Used car prices are insane. I've had my Tesla for 3 years and
50,000 miles at this point. Out of curiosity, I recently
located a similar one on Tesla's 'Used Models' page.
it was being offered for $20,000 MORE than I paid for the new
car.
Ford dealers were marking up the new F150 electric pickup
40-50%. MSRP is around $70,000 and extremely limited supply. One
dealer doubled the price. Ford (and Chevy in anticipation of
markups on it's new electric truck) has told dealers to stop or
risk losing their allocations.
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in news:66608756-3f0e-43de-be7e-d224ca40b6ebn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 2:41:31 PM UTC-4, Jibini KulaNew car prices aren't much better. Supply and demand.
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
Peter Trei <pete...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5d16a373-16e9-40ec...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 5:49:07 PM UTC-4, Dorothy J HeydtThe most annoying ones I get are from the dealership I bought
wrote:
In article <t0g6chhhlulmhibl6...@4ax.com>,
Tim Merrigan <tp...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:20:37 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini(Hal Heydt)
<taus...@gmail.com> wrote:
djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rEICq...@kithrup.com:
In article <t9u6ts$3b13e$1...@dont-email.me>,I'll bet you a steak dinner the answer either way would be
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
On 7/3/22 4:16 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2022 16:01:31 -0400, Joel Polowin
<jpol...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I rather think that those scammers will end up in a
different department from Dorothy.
As I understand, most of those people are just doing a
job, they don't necessarily know that the call center
they're working for is running scams.
I find that implausible. How do they deliver a
fraudulent sales pitch without knowing that's what
they're doing? The car warranty fraudsters, for
instance, have to explain why they don't already have
any information on the "expiring" car warranty they've
supposedly called about.
(Hal Heydt)
I get those, too. I occasionally consider pressing the
button to connect to a live person to ask if the
extended warranty is for my 1985 vehicle or for the 1968
one.
"yes, what's your credit card number?"
Generally, on the rare occasions I bother to respond at
all, would be "Yes, I know. About 5 yeas ago."
(Normally I let them talk long enough for me to identify
that it's a scam then hang up.)
The ones I get generally start with a recording with some
chirpy voice saying, "Your file just crossed my desk and you
may have an extended warranty...". One gets to recognizing
the lead in and can hang up very quickly.
The weird thing is that I don't think I've ever gotten a call
for an extended warranty. Charity scams, Social Security
scams, 'your computer is infected' scams, yes, but not the
car ones. That comes (rarely) in junk paper mail.
If its a robot, I hang up quickly. If its a human, I ask if
my car from wanting to buy it back. (Used cars are a very hot
market right now, and they know it's low mileage and in very
good shape because they've done 100% of the maintenance on it.)
Aside from not having any interest in selling it, my only
thought is, "You want to buy it back because you don't have
enough inventory. So if I sell it to you, what will *I* drive
when you don't have anything else to sell me?"
They're beginning to get the message, from the hostile response
they get every time.
Used car prices are insane. I've had my Tesla for 3 years and
50,000 miles at this point. Out of curiosity, I recently located
a similar one on Tesla's 'Used Models' page.
it was being offered for $20,000 MORE than I paid for the new
car.
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