The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday, according to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month to go pefore reaching
that number according to the Washington Post's numbers.) That's more
deaths than any other nation. There are still about 750 covid-19 deaths
per day in the US, or two 9/11s every week.
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday, according to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month to go pefore reaching
that number according to the Washington Post's numbers.) That's more
deaths than any other nation. There are still about 750 covid-19
deaths per day in the US, or two 9/11s every week.
On 3/24/22 10:56 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday, according
to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month to go
pefore reaching that number according to the Washington Post's
numbers.) That's more deaths than any other nation. There are
still about 750 covid-19 deaths per day in the US, or two 9/11s
every week.
Measuring death rates in 9/11s gets tiring. The death rate from
all causes in the US was about three 9/11s per day. We need to
declare permanent martial law!
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:56:47 +0000, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday, according
to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month to go
pefore reaching that number according to the Washington Post's
numbers.) That's more deaths than any other nation. There are
still about 750 covid-19 deaths per day in the US, or two 9/11s
every week.
Before being awed by these numbers I'd first want to know
the proportion of death certificates that pre-pandemic would
have declared pneumonia the proximate cause instead listed covid presumptively, i.e. without an actual test having been made for
the presence of the virus.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday, according
to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month to go pefore
reaching that number according to the Washington Post's numbers.)
That's more deaths than any other nation. There are still about
750 covid-19 deaths per day in the US, or two 9/11s every week.
Measuring death rates in 9/11s gets tiring.
The death rate from all causes in the US was about three 9/11s
per day. We need to declare permanent martial law!
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:56:47 +0000, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday, according to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month to go pefore reaching
that number according to the Washington Post's numbers.) That's more deaths than any other nation. There are still about 750 covid-19 deaths per day in the US, or two 9/11s every week.
Before being awed by these numbers I'd first want to know
the proportion of death certificates that pre-pandemic would have
declared pneumonia the proximate cause instead listed covid
presumptively, i.e. without an actual test having been made for
the presence of the virus.
Since the estimates for excess deaths in the USA is higher than the
number of official Covid-19 deaths, I am of the opinion that claims
of padding are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
In article <Lrd%J.482342$oF2.405746@fx10.iad>,
Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:56:47 +0000, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday,
according to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month
to go pefore reaching that number according to the Washington
Post's numbers.) That's more deaths than any other nation.
There are still about 750 covid-19 deaths per day in the US,
or two 9/11s every week.
Before being awed by these numbers I'd first want to know
the proportion of death certificates that pre-pandemic would
have declared pneumonia the proximate cause instead listed
covid presumptively, i.e. without an actual test having been
made for the presence of the virus.
Since the estimates for excess deaths in the USA is higher than
the number of official Covid-19 deaths, I am of the opinion that
claims of padding are full of sound and fury, signifying
nothing.
Robert Woodward <robe...@drizzle.com> wrote in news:robertaw-188638...@news.individual.net:
In article <Lrd%J.482342$oF2.4...@fx10.iad>,
Charles Packer <mai...@cpacker.org> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:56:47 +0000, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday,
according to worldometers.info. (We still have about a month
to go pefore reaching that number according to the Washington
Post's numbers.) That's more deaths than any other nation.
There are still about 750 covid-19 deaths per day in the US,
or two 9/11s every week.
Before being awed by these numbers I'd first want to know
the proportion of death certificates that pre-pandemic would
have declared pneumonia the proximate cause instead listed
covid presumptively, i.e. without an actual test having been
made for the presence of the virus.
Since the estimates for excess deaths in the USA is higher than
the number of official Covid-19 deaths, I am of the opinion that
claims of padding are full of sound and fury, signifying
nothing.
Do explain how the guesses you mention can tell the difference
between Covid deaths, increase suicides, deaths from people afraid
to go the hospital for treatable conditions, and things like cancer
deaths (because cancer treatments were somehow elective).
On Saturday, March 26, 2022 at 8:17:14 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda
Jibini wrote:
Robert Woodward <robe...@drizzle.com> wrote in
news:robertaw-188638...@news.individual.net:
In article <Lrd%J.482342$oF2.4...@fx10.iad>,Do explain how the guesses you mention can tell the difference
Charles Packer <mai...@cpacker.org> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 02:56:47 +0000, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
The US reached one million covid-19 deaths yesterday,
according to worldometers.info. (We still have about a
month to go pefore reaching that number according to the
Washington Post's numbers.) That's more deaths than any
other nation. There are still about 750 covid-19 deaths
per day in the US, or two 9/11s every week.
Before being awed by these numbers I'd first want to know
the proportion of death certificates that pre-pandemic would
have declared pneumonia the proximate cause instead listed
covid presumptively, i.e. without an actual test having been
made for the presence of the virus.
Since the estimates for excess deaths in the USA is higher
than the number of official Covid-19 deaths, I am of the
opinion that claims of padding are full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing.
between Covid deaths, increase suicides, deaths from people
afraid to go the hospital for treatable conditions, and things
like cancer deaths (because cancer treatments were somehow
elective).
The US rate of suicide dropped during Covid.
The US rate of suicide dropped during Covid. As usual, Terry is makingdeclines-encouraging-but-pandemic-concerns-remain
shit up.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-02-24/suicide-
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:06:15 -0700, Peter Trei wrote:
declines-encouraging-but-pandemic-concerns-remain
The US rate of suicide dropped during Covid. As usual, Terry is
making shit up.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-02-24/suic
ide-
That article is a piece of journalistic flim-flam. A distracting
farrago of cherry-picking of changes that are probably
not statistically significant.
I'd be satisfied to see links to sites that verify
authoritatively the assertions made herein about excess deaths
so that I could inspect the figures and their sourcing myself.
Measuring death rates in 9/11s gets tiring.Sorry. If you like, I'll switch to Pearl Harbors, Titanics,
or Bhopals.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Sorry. If you like, I'll switch to Pearl Harbors, Titanics,
or Bhopals.
For smaller death counts, you could use Hindenburgs. Surprisingly
the Hindenburg crash had only 35 fatalities -- plus the death of the lighter-than-air aircraft industry.
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Sorry. If you like, I'll switch to Pearl Harbors, Titanics,
or Bhopals.
For smaller death counts, you could use Hindenburgs. Surprisingly
the Hindenburg crash had only 35 fatalities -- plus the death of the
lighter-than-air aircraft industry.
I think I'll use measures appropriate to my audience. Since you're in
New England, when talking to you I'll use Cocoanut [sic] Groves for
large numbers of deaths and Chappaquiddicks for small numbers of deaths.
The pandemic has caused 2040 Cocoanut Groves so far in the US, 12,500 >worldwide. The good news is that it's down to only about 3 per week
in the US, the lowest it's been since last July.
I'll use Hindenburgs when talking to someone from New Jersey or
Germany. On second thought I'll use Wilhelm Gustloffs for the latter.
(Not many people have heard of that shipwreck, though it's the
deadliest in history.)
How about using numbers and percentages, those are understood
everywhere.
On 3/25/22 11:58 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Measuring death rates in 9/11s gets tiring.Sorry. If you like, I'll switch to Pearl Harbors, Titanics,
or Bhopals.
For smaller death counts, you could use Hindenburgs. Surprisingly the Hindenburg crash had only 35 fatalities -- plus the death of the lighter-than-air aircraft industry.
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-4, Gary McGath
wrote:
On 3/25/22 11:58 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
For smaller death counts, you could use Hindenburgs.Measuring death rates in 9/11s gets tiring.Sorry. If you like, I'll switch to Pearl Harbors, Titanics,
or Bhopals.
Surprisingly the Hindenburg crash had only 35 fatalities --
plus the death of the lighter-than-air aircraft industry.
Most people are unaware that majority of the 97 people on the
Hindenburg survived.
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:Much, much safer than a 737 with no survivors.
On 3/25/22 11:58 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Measuring death rates in 9/11s gets tiring.Sorry. If you like, I'll switch to Pearl Harbors, Titanics,
or Bhopals.
For smaller death counts, you could use Hindenburgs. Surprisingly the Hindenburg crash had only 35 fatalities -- plus the death of the lighter-than-air aircraft industry.Most people are unaware that majority of the 97 people on the Hindenburg survived.
pt
pete...@gmail.com wrote:
Most people are unaware that majority of the 97 people on the
Hindenburg survived.
Much, much safer than a 737 with no survivors.
Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in news:61f41e5d-7221-449b-833d-71b20d219b3en@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-4, Gary McGath wrote:It's not an intuitive outcome if you all you know about it is to have
On 3/25/22 11:58 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
For smaller death counts, you could use Hindenburgs. Surprisingly the
Hindenburg crash had only 35 fatalities --
plus the death of the lighter-than-air aircraft industry.
Most people are unaware that majority of the 97 people on the
Hindenburg survived.
watched the film.
There's also a special horror in knowing you're doomed. For instance
if you know that the plane you're on is broken in such a way that a non-survivable crash is inevitable.
On 3/30/22 9:12 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
There's also a special horror in knowing you're doomed. For
instance if you know that the plane you're on is broken in such
a way that a non-survivable crash is inevitable.
I sometimes wonder about the mix of feelings of the people on
the last United Flight 93. They were doomed, but they were
taking the would-be mass murderers with them.
I sometimes wonder about the mix of feelings of the people on the
last United Flight 93. They were doomed, but they were taking the
would-be mass murderers with them.
Gary McGath <garym@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
I sometimes wonder about the mix of feelings of the people on the
last United Flight 93. They were doomed, but they were taking the
would-be mass murderers with them.
They may not have known they were doomed. In principle they could
have retaken the cockpit.
"Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net> writes:
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
I sometimes wonder about the mix of feelings of the people on the
last United Flight 93. They were doomed, but they were taking the
would-be mass murderers with them.
They may not have known they were doomed. In principle they couldYes, but they had a pretty accurate understanding of what was going on
have retaken the cockpit.
at the other sites where the other hijacked planes had already crashed.
They knew their odds of retaking control of the plane were low. They
rushed the cockpit anyway, because there was no downside for them, but
from their phone calls immediately before that we know that they did so despite the near certainty of dying in so doing.
Be well.
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