• Annual Spring Cautionary Post

    From mccarty.theresa@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Sat May 11 22:33:15 2019
    On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:37:25 AM UTC-4, Peter Wieck wrote:
    All:
    Direct from last year, but more timely.

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland
    mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh
    urine of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served
    as their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those
    of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (
    usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual
    material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

    40 years ago, I was taking apart the left rear brake drum on my 67 Olds Cutlass V-8 (aluminum block). Being a novice... I blew the dust out. I'm doomed. Nyuck, nyuck!

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to mccarty.theresa@gmail.com on Sat May 11 22:49:33 2019
    On 2019/05/11 10:33 p.m., mccarty.theresa@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:37:25 AM UTC-4, Peter Wieck wrote:
    All:
    Direct from last year, but more timely.

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php
    images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland
    – mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh
    urine of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served
    as their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((
    Those of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (
    usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual
    material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

    40 years ago, I was taking apart the left rear brake drum on my 67 Olds Cutlass V-8 (aluminum block). Being a novice... I blew the dust out. I'm doomed. Nyuck, nyuck!


    More if you had sucked the dust, blowing just gets it in your eyes and
    hair...

    John ;-#)#

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    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
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  • From James Williams@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Sun May 19 11:49:04 2019
    On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 1:50:02 AM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2019/05/11 10:33 p.m., mccarty.theresa@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 13, 2019 at 8:37:25 AM UTC-4, Peter Wieck wrote:
    All:
    Direct from last year, but more timely.

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php
    images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg >>
    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern
    Maryland – mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh
    urine of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that
    served as their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((
    Those of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (
    usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual
    material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

    40 years ago, I was taking apart the left rear brake drum on my 67 Olds Cutlass V-8 (aluminum block). Being a novice... I blew the dust out. I'm doomed. Nyuck, nyuck!


    More if you had sucked the dust, blowing just gets it in your eyes and hair...

    John ;-#)#

    --
    (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
    John's Jukes Ltd.
    MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

    The dust was there, nevertheless. I'm doomed, I tell you, doomed! Of course, there have been "asbestos removals" since at work.

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 1 08:21:24 2020
    All:

    Even with COVID-19, this still applies, only more-so.

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php

    images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland –
    mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine
    of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as
    their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those
    of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. A single (one (1)) fiber can cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely rare and will (
    usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where residual
    material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.


    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Wed Apr 1 08:49:16 2020
    On 2020/04/01 8:21 a.m., Peter Wieck wrote:
    All:

    Even with COVID-19, this still applies, only more-so.

    ...

    Thanks for these annual warnings! We take them seriously in my shop...

    John :-#)#


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    MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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  • From pfjw@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 05:48:03 2022
    As many here are scroungers or scavengers, certainly enough to merit this post, here we go again. I have pulled any number of gems out of dumpsters, barn sales and yard sales, in any case. This applies mostly to the continental United States, but I am
    sure similar perils lurk everywhere. Further to this, I am told (by an Australian) that pretty much every person, plant or animal in Australia is trying to kill you. So:

    http://www.nwf.org/~/media/PDFs/Global-Warming/Reports/They-Came-From-Climate-Change-WEB.ashx

    https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631

    https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/surveillance/

    http://bugguide.net/node/view/475348

    https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/dvbd/

    https://ee_ce_img.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ce_img/media/remote/ce_img/https_ee_channel_images.s3.amazonaws.com/article-figures/12582/article-g02_400_301.jpg

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/61646.php images.radiopaedia.org/images/1827647/6b765cac7f64a5107b54df2e031e12.jpg

    It is time for the annual post on stalking the wild radio, audio component (or other collectible) - and what accidental passengers that may come along with it:

    1. Insects and other arthropods:

    Anything from spiders to wasps to fleas and more. Any radio that has spent substantial time in a barn, basement, shed, garage or any other damp or exposed area may well be inhabited by or infested with various small and potentially painful critters.
    Especially those found in the southern states, home to the Brown Recluse and Black Widow spiders. Wasps, centipedes (quite
    poisonous as it happens) and other vermin are no fun as well. And, if you do find some critter of this nature, KILL IT. Being soft-hearted and releasing it into _your_ environment may make you feel all warm
    and fuzzy, but that creature may then cause considerable harm being somewhere it does not belong and where it perhaps has no natural predators. EDIT: Global Warming (whether you believe in it or not) has pushed the Recluse range into southern Maryland –
    mostly by human transport and not as successful breeding colonies but more and more common, with some few transported by human agency as far as Michigan and Pennsylvania. This is one NASTY spider with a very nasty bite.

    2. Evidence of Rodent Inhabitation: Handle with GREAT care.

    Hanta-Virus (a relative of Ebola) is endemic throughout the entire United States, Mexico and parts of Canada. It is a disease without effective treatment and an over 50% mortality rate worldwide (36% in the US). It is carried in the feces and fresh urine
    of many rodents...and there is limited recent evidence that reconstituted waste (dried but inhaled) will also spread the disease especially if inhaled, a possibility not accepted in the recent past.

    Lyme Disease: Carried by deer ticks that winter over in the white-footed deer mouse (an omnivore, BTW) that will winter over anywhere it can find shelter. The ticks that mice carry will leave the mouse to lay eggs... perhaps in that radio that served as
    their temporary winter dorm and latrine. Various other tick-borne diseases include Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and a whole bunch more *very* nasty diseases not worth risking, are all endemic in the US.

    Note that per the CDC, there are now four types of ticks carrying multiple diseases dangerous to humans and pets. All this flying back and forth with pet animals has made the problem massively worse.

    3. Bird Dung & Old Nests: Per a recent paper, there have been over sixty (60) diseases that may be carried in wild bird poop including Avian Flu, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Coryza, Paratyphoid, Salmonellosis, Schistosomiasis, strep and on-and-on. ((Those
    of you servicing your Bluebird and other bird houses about now need also keep this in mind.)) Most wild birds are carriers of these diseases and show no visible symptoms. We bleach our birdhouses - THEN we clean them out. Amazing the number of dead
    insects and other vermin we get out of them every spring.

    Asbestos: Dangerous only when friable - small particles able to become airborne easily. If you are a smoker, even more dangerous. It is possible for a single (one (1)) fiber to cause a fatal reaction over time – although that actuality is extremely
    rare and will (usually) take many years. For all that, it is fairly easily made safe with a little bit of care and caution. But even if you do not believe it is dangerous, you do not have the right to expose others, or transport it in conveyances where
    residual material may come in contact with others - that is, do not transport it openly in the family minivan.

    Bottom line: A proverbial ounce of caution beats the hell out of a pound of care. Common sense, rubber gloves, a breathing mask, Lysol, Bleach, Moth-balls, Insecticides (which often do not work on Spiders or Ticks, so read the label), and other
    elementary precautions conscientiously and carefully applied will "safen" even the nastiest of wild radios.



    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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