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  • French "Blue Ribbon" radios

    From irvine@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 01:08:59 2019
    I bought one of these in a fleamarket in France.

    Has anyone ever heard of the brand?

    The tube lineup is 6E8 6K7 6Q7 6F6 and 5Y3 rectifier. The speaker's field winding doubles as a PSU choke.

    I have searched a few French sites - valve radios are called "TSF" over there - Telegraph Sans Fil.

    It is very nicely put together and the wiring insulation has not gone brittle so it should be a please to work on.

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 04:00:44 2019
    The "big" French brands are SNR and Ducretet-Thompson. They, in turn, made "House-Brand" radios for a good number of re-sellers.

    Look inside and see if you see any of their fairly distinctive trademarks.

    http://www.tsf-radio.org/pg.php?p=1-2&ord=1


    Will show other French and Euro-brands as well.

    I keep a Ducretet L624 and an SNR55.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From J.B. Wood@21:1/5 to irvine on Fri Jul 26 06:44:57 2019
    On 7/26/19 4:08 AM, irvine wrote:
    I bought one of these in a fleamarket in France.

    Has anyone ever heard of the brand?

    The tube lineup is 6E8 6K7 6Q7 6F6 and 5Y3 rectifier. The speaker's field winding doubles as a PSU choke.

    I have searched a few French sites - valve radios are called "TSF" over there - Telegraph Sans Fil.

    It is very nicely put together and the wiring insulation has not gone brittle so it should be a please to work on.


    Sorry, the only radios manufactured in France that I've encountered were
    made by Reela, and those were transistor models. Sincerely,

    --
    J. B. Wood e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to irvine on Fri Jul 26 04:43:42 2019
    On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:21:33 AM UTC-4, irvine wrote:


    Absolutely nothing...
    It would be nice to find a schematic and alignment procedure.

    Given that it is late 1930s (some of the valves only were introduced
    in 1935) is it safe to assume an IF of 455kHz?

    Probably not. Remember: The French copy no one and no one copies the French.

    Look at the Radio Museum website. They specialize in Euro radios and, with registration, may be able to lead you directly to where you need to go:

    https://www.radiomuseum.org/

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From irvine@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 04:21:32 2019
    On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:00 PM Peter Wieck <> wrote:

    The "big" French brands are SNR and Ducretet-Thompson. They, in turn, made "House-Brand" radios for a good number of re-sellers.

    Look inside and see if you see any of their fairly distinctive trademarks.

    Absolutely nothing...
    It would be nice to find a schematic and alignment procedure.

    Given that it is late 1930s (some of the valves only were introduced
    in 1935) is it safe to assume an IF of 455kHz?

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  • From irvine@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Fri Jul 26 04:55:28 2019
    On Friday, 26 July 2019 13:43:43 UTC+2, Peter Wieck wrote:
    On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:21:33 AM UTC-4, irvine wrote:

    is it safe to assume an IF of 455kHz?

    Probably not. Remember: The French copy no one and no one copies the French.

    Cheers Peter...

    I looked at https://www.radiomuseum.org/

    and the closest it comes up with is this: https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/blue_ribbo_inconnu_unknown.html

    Do you have access to Facebook?

    I have some pics there.

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to irvine on Fri Jul 26 05:32:59 2019
    On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:55:29 AM UTC-4, irvine wrote:


    Do you have access to Facebook?

    I have some pics there.

    I find the price of admission to Facebook is far to high.

    Take care!

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Fox's Mercantile@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Fri Jul 26 08:05:08 2019
    On 7/26/19 7:32 AM, Peter Wieck wrote:
    On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 7:55:29 AM UTC-4, irvine wrote:


    Do you have access to Facebook?

    I have some pics there.

    I find the price of admission to Facebook is far to high.

    Irvine, go to your pics, and one by one, "open image in new tab"
    Copy the link and paste here on R.A.R+P
    Use < and > before and after the link.
    That way, non-users like Peter can view them.
    Example: <https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67240432_2311834025735422_6431816892737912832_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_eui2=AeFS5Xgl2KKQp_Jn45Q9WH_CU1wNfZDq8UIQ8BRpG2aZX438teb8V4o9PtqyfyGoyGenR1tMCgM756Bapu9jHdTMtWzCYtJUTVti8ONYOJbpZA&_nc_oc=
    AQkC2D9haZyaBXeyzH2pw8yvqj3JzDkTtpUCKj4gCeS8fv2kWfItQr6HQafHDeqaHsO5CebCzE7FYAM3Qxdywlp7&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=d848e03d1755c1d77512743d65cf26fb&oe=5DA92861>



    --
    "I am a river to my people."
    Jeff-1.0
    WA6FWi
    http:foxsmercantile.com

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  • From irvine@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 06:11:28 2019
    Cheers Mr Fox

    <https://scontent.fjnb1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66529648_10157275392115692_4316840387617488896_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeGgpNlCIfx-mAyYQjYEcW49uIuKK8H2RwYn__r_secINoUNfV6EmkUQUYz_R9Y6cBUCO_VYMc3dDyuaUln8C2OzTenmWxOUIy9zvEAep2_nLA&_nc_oc=
    AQnCTX7dxdBCCLJhtdfY-AJcZkb1L3Eg76a1begtEsXrakB_h68Q2OeFGYP3mPxEIHc&_nc_ht=scontent.fjnb1-1.fna&oh=9f77ef1906e4502321c4b0546c0d9108&oe=5DAE562F>

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  • From Fox's Mercantile@21:1/5 to irvine on Fri Jul 26 08:44:35 2019
    On 7/26/19 8:11 AM, irvine wrote:
    Cheers Mr Fox

    <https://scontent.fjnb1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66529648_10157275392115692_4316840387617488896_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeGgpNlCIfx-mAyYQjYEcW49uIuKK8H2RwYn__r_secINoUNfV6EmkUQUYz_R9Y6cBUCO_VYMc3dDyuaUln8C2OzTenmWxOUIy9zvEAep2_nLA&_nc_oc=
    AQnCTX7dxdBCCLJhtdfY-AJcZkb1L3Eg76a1begtEsXrakB_h68Q2OeFGYP3mPxEIHc&_nc_ht=scontent.fjnb1-1.fna&oh=9f77ef1906e4502321c4b0546c0d9108&oe=5DAE562F>


    That worked perfectly.
    Heh, it's a bit on the crusty looking side.


    --
    "I am a river to my people."
    Jeff-1.0
    WA6FWi
    http:foxsmercantile.com

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  • From Peter Wieck@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 06:42:27 2019
    Wowsers!

    That, if ever there is one, is a candidate for heroic cleaning methods. I have put such devices through the Dishwasher as kill-or-cure. However, it must be the type that does not have a heating ring inside. We keep a Bosch which is ideal for the purpose.
    Top Rack. "China" setting. 1/4 the amount of detergent - but you MUST add some. Re-lubricate all moving parts prior to doing anything after it is out.

    Leave in hot sun for 24 hours after cleaning to get thoroughly dry.

    Remove dials, paper parts, tubes, lamps and speakers first, of course.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From irvine@21:1/5 to Peter Wieck on Fri Jul 26 07:29:14 2019
    On Friday, 26 July 2019 15:42:28 UTC+2, Peter Wieck wrote:
    Wowsers!

    That, if ever there is one, is a candidate for heroic cleaning methods. I > have put such devices through the Dishwasher as kill-or-cure. H

    Indeed:-) however I am a bit wary of that as this is the first time I am using a soldering iron in 30 years. The insulation of the wires is still flexible but I do not see it surviving a dishwasher and I do not feel confident enough to remove all the
    oscillator coils and IF transformers.

    The tuning condenser is fair game for a dishwasher though, it needs a good service.

    My plan is to replace all the paper and wax caps and the PSU smoothing caps, clean and lubricate the tuning condenser, replace the line cord of course and power it up carefully.

    I have already found the rectifier filament is open circuit.

    Once I get glowing heaters, B+ and some noise out of the speaker I will take it further.

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