• Wedgwood Carnotzet pattern

    From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 19 04:40:13 2022
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the border, which has grapes, vine leaves and
    wheat sheaves. Does anyone know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood & Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Natasha Pittet on Sun Feb 20 19:11:44 2022
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the border, which has grapes, vine leaves and
    wheat sheaves. Does anyone know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Thu Feb 24 22:49:56 2022
    On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware
    plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone
    know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget.

    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back
    stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like.

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  • From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Feb 25 14:05:53 2022
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware
    plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone
    know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back
    stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like.

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  • From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Feb 25 14:09:34 2022
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware
    plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone
    know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back
    stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Natasha Pittet on Sat Feb 26 13:54:49 2022
    On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware
    plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the >>>> border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone
    know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no >>>> trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget. >> Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back
    stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up, specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that
    you can upload a larger file or a closer view?

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  • From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Feb 26 13:30:54 2022
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware
    plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating >>>> fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the >>>> border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone >>>> know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no >>>> trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to >>> see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget. >> Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back
    stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill
    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up, specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that
    you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better? https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Natasha Pittet on Sat Feb 26 21:45:01 2022
    On 2/26/2022 16:30, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware >>>>>> plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people eating >>>>>> fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom of the >>>>>> border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone >>>>>> know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can find no >>>>>> trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll check to >>>>> see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't forget. >>>> Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back
    stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill
    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up,
    specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that
    you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better? https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill

    That is good, thank you.

    Your plates are made by a different Wedgwood than the original, famous
    firm. They are made by Enoch Wedgwood, who is a distant cousin of
    Joshia Wedgwood, who founded the original "Wedgwood" pottery... the
    original pottery, being the well-known one, who are usually famous for non-glazed ceramics, popularly in blue.

    The two firms just happen to share the same family name, but they were
    entirely different pottery firms. A little bit more info below, and
    also a link to 4 plates for sale on eBay, seemingly very similar style
    to your plates/pattern, based on your description.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Wedgwood

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/384707837843

    The company changed names a few times, and they used the name "Wedgwood
    and Co" from 1860 - 1965, as stamped on yours. I don't know if the 5-64
    is a date code, pattern code, or what. I'd assume that your plates are
    older than 1965, due to the crazing in the glaze. I'm not well versed
    on English pottery, but I'd estimate that yours are close to 90 years
    old, give or take.

    I don't have a guess on value either, but I'd assume less than the
    original Wedgwood firm. At least in my region, all pottery (even real Wedgwood) has really gone down in value, unfortunately.

    I hope that this is helpful to you!

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Mar 4 19:13:04 2022
    On 2/26/2022 21:45, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 16:30, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>> On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware >>>>>>> plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people
    eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom
    of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone >>>>>>> know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can
    find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll
    check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't
    forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back >>>>> stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up,
    specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that
    you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better?
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill


    That is good, thank you.

    Your plates are made by a different Wedgwood than the original, famous
    firm. They are made by Enoch Wedgwood, who is a distant cousin of Joshia Wedgwood, who founded the original "Wedgwood" pottery... the original pottery, being the well-known one, who are usually famous for non-glazed ceramics, popularly in blue.

    The two firms just happen to share the same family name, but they were entirely different pottery firms. A little bit more info below, and also
    a link to 4 plates for sale on eBay, seemingly very similar style to
    your plates/pattern, based on your description.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Wedgwood

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/384707837843

    The company changed names a few times, and they used the name "Wedgwood
    and Co" from 1860 - 1965, as stamped on yours. I don't know if the 5-64
    is a date code, pattern code, or what. I'd assume that your plates are
    older than 1965, due to the crazing in the glaze. I'm not well versed on English pottery, but I'd estimate that yours are close to 90 years old,
    give or take.

    I don't have a guess on value either, but I'd assume less than the
    original Wedgwood firm. At least in my region, all pottery (even real Wedgwood) has really gone down in value, unfortunately.

    I hope that this is helpful to you!


    Hi Natasha, I hope that you received my last post.

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  • From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Mar 4 16:57:13 2022
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:12:59 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 21:45, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 16:30, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>> On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>> On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware >>>>>>> plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people >>>>>>> eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom >>>>>>> of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone >>>>>>> know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can >>>>>>> find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll
    check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't >>>>>> forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back >>>>> stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up,
    specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that >>> you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better?
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill


    That is good, thank you.

    Your plates are made by a different Wedgwood than the original, famous firm. They are made by Enoch Wedgwood, who is a distant cousin of Joshia Wedgwood, who founded the original "Wedgwood" pottery... the original pottery, being the well-known one, who are usually famous for non-glazed ceramics, popularly in blue.

    The two firms just happen to share the same family name, but they were entirely different pottery firms. A little bit more info below, and also
    a link to 4 plates for sale on eBay, seemingly very similar style to
    your plates/pattern, based on your description.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Wedgwood

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/384707837843

    The company changed names a few times, and they used the name "Wedgwood
    and Co" from 1860 - 1965, as stamped on yours. I don't know if the 5-64
    is a date code, pattern code, or what. I'd assume that your plates are older than 1965, due to the crazing in the glaze. I'm not well versed on English pottery, but I'd estimate that yours are close to 90 years old, give or take.

    I don't have a guess on value either, but I'd assume less than the
    original Wedgwood firm. At least in my region, all pottery (even real Wedgwood) has really gone down in value, unfortunately.

    I hope that this is helpful to you!
    Hi Natasha, I hope that you received my last post.
    Yes I did, sorry did you not get my answer?

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  • From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Fri Mar 4 16:56:55 2022
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:12:59 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 21:45, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 16:30, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>> On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>> On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware >>>>>>> plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people >>>>>>> eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom >>>>>>> of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone >>>>>>> know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can >>>>>>> find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll
    check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't >>>>>> forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back >>>>> stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up,
    specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that >>> you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better?
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill


    That is good, thank you.

    Your plates are made by a different Wedgwood than the original, famous firm. They are made by Enoch Wedgwood, who is a distant cousin of Joshia Wedgwood, who founded the original "Wedgwood" pottery... the original pottery, being the well-known one, who are usually famous for non-glazed ceramics, popularly in blue.

    The two firms just happen to share the same family name, but they were entirely different pottery firms. A little bit more info below, and also
    a link to 4 plates for sale on eBay, seemingly very similar style to
    your plates/pattern, based on your description.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Wedgwood

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/384707837843

    The company changed names a few times, and they used the name "Wedgwood
    and Co" from 1860 - 1965, as stamped on yours. I don't know if the 5-64
    is a date code, pattern code, or what. I'd assume that your plates are older than 1965, due to the crazing in the glaze. I'm not well versed on English pottery, but I'd estimate that yours are close to 90 years old, give or take.

    I don't have a guess on value either, but I'd assume less than the
    original Wedgwood firm. At least in my region, all pottery (even real Wedgwood) has really gone down in value, unfortunately.

    I hope that this is helpful to you!
    Hi Natasha, I hope that you received my last post.

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  • From Natasha Pittet@21:1/5 to Natasha Pittet on Fri Mar 4 16:58:34 2022
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:56:56 AM UTC+1, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:12:59 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 21:45, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 16:30, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>> On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>> On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware >>>>>>> plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people >>>>>>> eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom >>>>>>> of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone
    know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can >>>>>>> find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll >>>>>> check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't >>>>>> forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back >>>>> stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up, >>> specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that
    you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better?
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill


    That is good, thank you.

    Your plates are made by a different Wedgwood than the original, famous firm. They are made by Enoch Wedgwood, who is a distant cousin of Joshia Wedgwood, who founded the original "Wedgwood" pottery... the original pottery, being the well-known one, who are usually famous for non-glazed ceramics, popularly in blue.

    The two firms just happen to share the same family name, but they were entirely different pottery firms. A little bit more info below, and also a link to 4 plates for sale on eBay, seemingly very similar style to your plates/pattern, based on your description.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Wedgwood

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/384707837843

    The company changed names a few times, and they used the name "Wedgwood and Co" from 1860 - 1965, as stamped on yours. I don't know if the 5-64 is a date code, pattern code, or what. I'd assume that your plates are older than 1965, due to the crazing in the glaze. I'm not well versed on English pottery, but I'd estimate that yours are close to 90 years old, give or take.

    I don't have a guess on value either, but I'd assume less than the original Wedgwood firm. At least in my region, all pottery (even real Wedgwood) has really gone down in value, unfortunately.

    I hope that this is helpful to you!
    Hi Natasha, I hope that you received my last post.
    Hi, Yes I did. I thought I had answered! Thank you very much! I bought the plates on E-bay, cos having fondue "à deux" is no fun... This way I'll have 4! Thank you again!

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Natasha Pittet on Sun Mar 6 22:53:59 2022
    On 3/4/2022 19:58, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:56:56 AM UTC+1, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 1:12:59 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 21:45, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/26/2022 16:30, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 7:54:44 PM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>> On 2/25/2022 17:09, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 4:49:52 AM UTC+1, Michael Trew wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2/20/2022 19:11, Michael Trew wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 7:40, Natasha Pittet wrote:
    Hi, I recently bought two breakfast-sized pink and white stoneware >>>>>>>>>> plates marked Wedgwood "Carnozet". The decoration shows people >>>>>>>>>> eating
    fondue in a carnozet. The border has a fondue pot at the bottom >>>>>>>>>> of the
    border, which has grapes, vine leaves and wheat sheaves. Does anyone >>>>>>>>>> know if this is a true Wedgwood pattern? It looks real but can >>>>>>>>>> find no
    trace online of this pattern.
    The back says
    Carnozet
    Wedgwood& Co LTD
    ENGLAND
    FOUNDED 1835
    BY
    ENOCH WEDGWOOD
    ALL DECORATION
    UNDER THE GLAZE
    PERMANENT AND ACID
    RESISTING COLOURS
    A GENUINE
    HAND ENGRAVING.
    Over this the number: 5-64 is stamped in green.
    Thanks for any help!

    Lots of pottery books at the antique mall that I work at. I'll >>>>>>>>> check to
    see if we have a book on Wedgwood and get back to you, if I don't >>>>>>>>> forget.
    Sorry, we didn't have any Wedgwood books. Post a picture of the back >>>>>>>> stamp, if you can, with photobucket, postimg, or the like

    Here you are
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/wedgwood.jpg?width=285&height=175&crop=fill

    I apologize, but the photo is too small to view any kind of close-up, >>>>>> specifically of the red stamp on the upper plate. Is there any way that >>>>>> you can upload a larger file or a closer view?
    Sorry. Is this better?
    https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/NPittet/20220226_213750.jpg?width=450&height=278&crop=fill


    That is good, thank you.

    Your plates are made by a different Wedgwood than the original, famous >>>> firm. They are made by Enoch Wedgwood, who is a distant cousin of Joshia >>>> Wedgwood, who founded the original "Wedgwood" pottery... the original
    pottery, being the well-known one, who are usually famous for non-glazed >>>> ceramics, popularly in blue.

    The two firms just happen to share the same family name, but they were >>>> entirely different pottery firms. A little bit more info below, and also >>>> a link to 4 plates for sale on eBay, seemingly very similar style to
    your plates/pattern, based on your description.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Wedgwood

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/384707837843

    The company changed names a few times, and they used the name "Wedgwood >>>> and Co" from 1860 - 1965, as stamped on yours. I don't know if the 5-64 >>>> is a date code, pattern code, or what. I'd assume that your plates are >>>> older than 1965, due to the crazing in the glaze. I'm not well versed on >>>> English pottery, but I'd estimate that yours are close to 90 years old, >>>> give or take.

    I don't have a guess on value either, but I'd assume less than the
    original Wedgwood firm. At least in my region, all pottery (even real
    Wedgwood) has really gone down in value, unfortunately.

    I hope that this is helpful to you!
    Hi Natasha, I hope that you received my last post.
    Hi, Yes I did. I thought I had answered! Thank you very much! I bought the plates on E-bay, cos having fondue "à deux" is no fun... This way I'll have 4! Thank you again!

    You're welcome. It didn't come through on my end. Perhaps it was a
    Google groups to Usenet issue (I use Thunderbird to post). Either way,
    I'm glad that it worked out for you! :)

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