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  • Re: The sooner the rest of the NZ MSM News Media follow Newshub the bet

    From Tony@21:1/5 to JohnO on Tue Mar 19 19:54:23 2024
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away
    with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi"
    and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls
    out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to >spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die.
    Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple of them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to JohnO on Tue Mar 19 23:14:00 2024
    On 2024-03-19, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away
    with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi"
    and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls
    out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die.
    Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful.

    Winston is often right, it comes up packaged in a high level annoyance
    wrapping but throw this away and often the message is correct.

    Winston has no woke in his make up compared to the National/Act side who
    have enough to make them seem good to some and the votes that they supply.

    Once NZ First numbers rise month after month we will know that the woke era
    is, like newshub to-day, is going to be over.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 19 23:50:55 2024
    Let Rupert Murdoch move in and take over, eh? How’d you like it if NZ had
    its own little version of Fox News?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Mar 20 17:58:36 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:54:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >>media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away >>with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi"
    and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls
    out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to >>spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Christopher Luxon did not seem to think it appropriate - do you see
    that as coalition disunity?


    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die. >>Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >>impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. >Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple of >them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.
    Can you identify them so we can have a look?

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Wed Mar 20 17:32:47 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 23:50:55 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Let Rupert Murdoch move in and take over, eh? How’d you like it if NZ had
    its own little version of Fox News?

    I would like that very much.

    Bill.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Mar 20 05:48:11 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:54:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >>>media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away >>>with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi" >>>and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls >>>out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to >>>spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Christopher Luxon did not seem to think it appropriate - do you see
    that as coalition disunity?
    No.


    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die. >>>Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >>>impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. >>Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple of >>them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.
    Can you identify them so we can have a look?
    No.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Wed Mar 20 19:33:41 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:48:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:54:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >>>>media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away >>>>with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi" >>>>and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls >>>>out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to >>>>spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Christopher Luxon did not seem to think it appropriate - do you see
    that as coalition disunity?
    No.


    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die. >>>>Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >>>>impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. >>>Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple of >>>them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.
    Can you identify them so we can have a look?
    No.

    Why not, Tony?
    Are you ashamed of them?,
    or do you not agree with the news that they present?

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Wed Mar 20 18:45:22 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:48:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:54:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >>>>>media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away >>>>>with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi" >>>>>and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls >>>>>out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to >>>>>spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Christopher Luxon did not seem to think it appropriate - do you see
    that as coalition disunity?
    No.


    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die. >>>>>Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >>>>>impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. >>>>Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple of >>>>them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.
    Can you identify them so we can have a look?
    No.

    Why not, Tony?
    Non of your business.
    Are you ashamed of them?,
    Please - stop your idiotic questions.
    or do you not agree with the news that they present?
    See above - another idiotic question.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Rich80105@hotmail.com on Thu Mar 21 02:48:52 2024
    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 18:45:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:48:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:54:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >>>>>>>media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away >>>>>>>with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi" >>>>>>>and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls >>>>>>>out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting >>>>>>>to
    spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Christopher Luxon did not seem to think it appropriate - do you see >>>>>that as coalition disunity?
    No.


    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die. >>>>>>>Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >>>>>>>impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. >>>>>>Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple >>>>>>of
    them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.
    Can you identify them so we can have a look?
    No.

    Why not, Tony?
    Non of your business.
    Are you ashamed of them?,
    Please - stop your idiotic questions.
    or do you not agree with the news that they present?
    See above - another idiotic question.

    Abuse removed.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to lizandtony@orcon.net.nz on Thu Mar 21 15:16:48 2024
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 18:45:22 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 05:48:11 -0000 (UTC), Tony
    <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:54:23 -0000 (UTC), Tony >>>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/03/rt-hon-winston-peters- >>>>>>media.html

    I generally despise Winston, but he's got a point here. TPM can get away >>>>>>with calling Maori racially superior. The Greens can toss around "Nazi" >>>>>>and "Genocide" at will. The MSM has no interest. But when Winston calls >>>>>>out TPM with reference to Nazism, the MSM is all over it and attempting to
    spin it into a story of coalition disunity.

    Christopher Luxon did not seem to think it appropriate - do you see >>>>that as coalition disunity?
    No.


    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die. >>>>>>Stuff will hopefully die off soon. If they can't do their job, i.e. >>>>>>impartially report news and events, they are neither needed nor useful. >>>>>Absolutely. There are some small impartial news outlets - maybe a couple of
    them will grow to replace the biased bought ones.
    Can you identify them so we can have a look?
    No.

    Why not, Tony?
    Non of your business.
    Are you ashamed of them?,
    Please - stop your idiotic questions.
    or do you not agree with the news that they present?
    See above - another idiotic question.

    There you go again, scribbling a reply before engaging common sense
    and then not able to justify your dribbles . . .

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to JohnO on Sat Mar 23 21:54:21 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:19:51 -0000 (UTC), JohnO wrote:

    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die.

    Where did you hear about this? Was it on the MSM you despise so much?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sun Mar 24 11:57:12 2024
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 21:54:21 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:19:51 -0000 (UTC), JohnO wrote:

    Newshub will soon be gone. TVNZ news is taking a little longer to die.

    Where did you hear about this? Was it on the MSM you despise so much?
    There was an interesting discussion on Media Watch this morning -
    listen and also see here: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018931407/can-news-media-innovate-to-survive

    But who wants balanced impartial media when you can look at: https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/
    and two of its offshoots:
    https://centrist.co.nz/
    and
    https://www.groundswellnz.co.nz/

    (There is another offshoot website linked to the NZ Taxpayer Union,
    but I can't remember the name - anyone know it?)

    and
    https://www.nzcpr.com/

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